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Here is a snapshot of an Elance interaction between Adevox/Twenty and a client.

Notice that the rating at the time, in their heyday, was 40%. This is abysmally low. Any supplier on Elance who has a rating of below 75% ought to be stuck off!

Another clue is that of the 203 clients at the time, only 40 returned. In other words, 163 ran away! Follow the crowd and run. One could say that 163 people simply did not need any more work. Any web-based project is an on-going situation. Instead of ripping off 163 clients, why not serve them well. Imagine how much richer these men would be if they could have maintained 163 clients. The add-on, and flow-on effects would have made them rich.

Alin and Cristian are bad news. Their companies Adevox/Twenty are also bad news. But they will change their name and strike again.

Adevox/Twenty might argue that their low ratings were due to picky or fussy customers. What a rotten bit of luck that of all the clients on Elance, they attracted the bad ones. This is too hard to believe.

Here is an example of a company that has this year made over $146,000. And in their lifetime on Elance, they have made $792,628. And they have a 95% rating. Now that’s the way to run a business! Work for it. Earn it. Don’t lie and cheat and con everyone. And we mean everyone.

They con their employees, their suppliers, their staff, their government (see blogs below about Alin and Cristian owing huge amounts to their government), and they con their society by not paying taxes, and they con and cheat clients, and they con and cheat Elance by finding clients on line and then taking the work off line. From this we can only assume they con and cheat each other in their personal and private lives. Imagine their friends and families. How hurt they must feel when they are let down by these men. Read below about rumours of a certain person cheating on his wife. Gosh, if you can cheat the one person whom you say you love above all else, who would you not cheat?

Lessons:

1) Never work with anyone on Elance with such low ratings.

2) Always rate people with whom you work so that others can benefit form your experience. And always rate honestly! Otherwise we all suffer.

3) Never go off line and deal outside of Elance. The savings are not worth it. Elance protects you with full escrow.

4) Never make part payments. Only after the job is done, should you release the funds. That’s what Elance is all about. They have processed over US$200 million. The system works. Stay within the system. Sure, they take a commission from the provider. But that’s not how to look at it. They provide an exceptional service in this globalised world where con artists and scammers and fraudsters like Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai can now harm more people in more countries. Unfortunately, although Elance makes trading global, there is no system that makes the legal framework global, and this suits con men. They can con you from the other side of the world, and you become too exhausted to do anything about it. And you would not have the money and the knowledge to lodge complaints etc.

Wouldn’t it be great if laws were universal, and courts were simple.

Tell us your stories. Write to us at TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk and keep those bits of information coming. Every small amount is useful so that we can protect others from being conned by these two men.

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Every day, someone steps forward with a horror story about Twenty or Adevox, owned by Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac of Romania.

Often, the victims are too ashamed about what happened to them. They tend to blame themselves for what happened, because they feel that they should have been less trusting. Such is the nature of con-artists and scammers. They present a charming image, to set you at your ease, and then, when you least expect it, you are bitten.

Here is a summary of yet another victim. This one had no problems with us sharing the story publicly. This person is perusing other avenues. The victim writes:

“Basically I joined Elance.com and created a project in which Adevox gave me the best bid. They asked for US$1000 up-front. I thought it was unusual that I paid up-front instead of through milestones but I spoke to Cristian a few times online and on the phone and he made me feel that it was safe. Shortly after beginning the project I could see that they didn’t have the qualifications but they were trying… It was strange to me because Elance has to qualify you to become a provider and Adevox had done $200,000 of work with other clients that didn’t post complaints. After 4 months of very poor work I threatened to cancel the project and asked for my money back which they declined. I was in talks with them up until 2 weeks ago. Now they don’t respond at all. I had a feeling he was going to open a new account with Elance. So I decided to Google their names and this is where I ran into your blog… I then contacted Elance. I will write to you soon and tell you about that!”

We have been in contact with this victim and we are exchanging information. More worms are popping out of cans. Stat tuned!

When will Mihai and Chiriac grow up. They cannot treat people like this. They owe money to many people including programmers and staff, as well as clients. Their behaviour is totally unacceptable, and we will continue to bring news about these men until they pay what they owe and stop their criminal and unethical behaviour. We have all the time in the world and heaps of resources and money and victims to feed us. The snowball is rolling and it is picking up momentum.

It is a simple rule in life: hurt enough people, and they will rise up!

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It was bad enough that Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai took the money and never delivered. One client who was ripped-off complained that Adevox and Twenty, owned by these two con men, developed a site for him. Although everything was a disaster, and he never got what he paid for, the site is somewhat up, even though nothing works.

Well, it’s bad enough that the site is totally off brief and completely useless, it has one hidden feature: when visitors press the ‘Contact Us’ section, their information goes to a staff member @Adevox.com

The client has no idea who this person is. The client was complaining that for nine months, not a single contact or lead or message has come via the web site — the very web site that was a total disaster, produced by Alin and Cristian’s incompetent company. So the client paid a consultant to look into the site’s programming and it was found that any and all mail for any of the business request forms, were going back to Adevox.

That is one sneaky underhanded miserable trick. Goodness knows how many visitors had submitted requests. We have no idea how those requests were handled. No one knows what happened to the requests.

So not only do these fraudsters steal your money and ruin your business, they also have the bloody audacity to place a hidden program inside the site to steal leads.

The bloody cheek!

P.S. It has been pointed out to us that this could have been an innocent mistake, or just an address used for testing. It might well have been. But the end result is that the poor client had not received, and to this day cannot receive any mail. So he has had to appoint a new programmer at more expense. It might not have been the original programmer’s fault. But the company is at fault for not paying attention to these important elements. If indeed this is a common thing to do (to place a staff member’s email during the testing phase) then equally it would have been well known that such a feature needs to be turned off as soon as possible, so they cannot say that they forgot. If it is common, then it is not unusual, and so there must be a system in place. That system was never activated and the client had no workable site, yet Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai have 100% perfect money. If you are going to take perfect money, you had better pay attention and deliver to the client. How would they like it if all the money the clients paid them just vanished because the money was imperfect. It would be unthinkable to give someone money that does not work. Well, then, don’t dish out web sites that do not work (in this case, the site did not work, and it was 100% off the brief, and we have documents to prove it to anyone who want to so much as breath in this direction)!

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A lawyer friend of mine once told me how much money he charges his clients. The expenses for one client had stacked up to $40 million dollars. The initial dispute was about one million dollars. The other defendant-side had spent similar amounts. Over $80 million was engaged, all for a one-million-dollar argument.

I spoke to my friend about ‘justice’. He laughed. He said, ‘This has nothing to do with justice. This is all about injustice.’

I still did not agree with such spending, and he laughed, adding, ‘You are forgetting the other key word: principle!’

This Chiriac/Mihai Saga has become much more expensive than the initial amount that they thieved from us and others.

Unfortunately, Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai might not understand why we are spending so much time, energy, and money on this campaign. The answer is simple: because we wished that someone had warned us before we were bitten. So not wanting to be hypocrites, we have to warn others. It is our duty to expose these unprofessional men who have no ethics whatsoever.

The injustice suffered by staff and clients go beyond ‘dollars’ to include insult, hurt, injustice and principle. Although the financial losses might amount to X, we, the victims, will spend 20X. Some of us would spend a millionX if we had the money. In life, fury has no bounds. Anger has no budget. It just gushes out.

When X becomes 20X and then 100X, the years roll by. Eventually, we might lose sight of the starting point. It’s a bit like Middle Eastern politics. No one can quite work out where it all started. It becomes a jolly big mess. These are early days. We can still remember the day we were conned by Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai of Adevox/Twenty. Perhaps in ages hence, people will wonder what triggered the mass media campaign.

One of the clients whom Cristian and Alin had conned, once spent over $8000 to defend a traffic ticket of $80. It seems that 100X is not an unusual multiplier when we count the price of injustice. So you can imagine, if the dispute at Twenty or Adevox was over $5000, then $500,000 does not seem out of the question. Mix some stupidity and a frustration into the whole mix, and the sky is the limit.

If you want to know the extent of an aggrieved soul, just read the reports from psychiatrists about famous criminals. Once upon a time, they were minding their own business, and then someone pressed their button, and everything changed. As Jonar Nader once said in his books, ‘Never cross nice people, because amongst them are the most dangerous!’

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A lawyer friend of mine once told me how much money he charges his clients. The expenses for one client had stacked up to $40 million dollars. The initial dispute was about one million dollars. The other defendant-side had spent similar amounts. Over $80 million was engaged, all for a one-million-dollar argument.

I spoke to my friend about ‘justice’. He laughed. He said, ‘This has nothing to do with justice. This is all about injustice.’

I still did not agree with such spending, and he laughed, adding, ‘You are forgetting the other key word: principle!’

This Chiriac/Mihai Saga has become much more expensive than the initial amount that they thieved from us and others.

Unfortunately, Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai might not understand why we are spending so much time, energy, and money on this campaign. The answer is simple: because we wished that someone had warned us before we were bitten. So not wanting to be hypocrites, we have to warn others. It is our duty to expose these unprofessional men who have no ethics whatsoever.

The injustice suffered by staff and clients go beyond ‘dollars’ to include insult, hurt, injustice and principle. Although the financial losses might amount to X, we, the victims, will spend 20X. Some of us would spend a millionX if we had the money. In life, fury has no bounds. Anger has no budget. It just gushes out.

When X becomes 20X and then 100X, the years roll by. Eventually, we might lose sight of the starting point. It’s a bit like Middle Eastern politics. No one can quite work out where it all started. It becomes a jolly big mess. These are early days. We can still remember the day we were conned by Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai of Adevox/Twenty. Perhaps in ages hence, people will wonder what triggered the mass media campaign.

One of the clients whom Cristian and Alin had conned, once spent over $8000 to defend a traffic ticket of $80. It seems that 100X is not an unusual multiplier when we count the price of injustice. So you can imagine, if the dispute at Twenty or Adevox was over $5000, then $500,000 does not seem out of the question. Mix some stupidity and a frustration into the whole mix, and the sky is the limit.

If you want to know the extent of an aggrieved soul, just read the reports from psychiatrists about famous criminals. Once upon a time, they were minding their own business, and then someone pressed their button, and everything changed. As Jonar Nader once said in his books, ‘Never cross nice people, because amongst them are the most dangerous!’

Dear friends,

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Find someone who has read ‘1984’ and ask them what George Orwell was writing about. Most people talk about the concept of ‘Big Brother’. They remember the cameras in the street. What many forget is the idea that one central system can erase all the news, so that citizens can be deprived of hearing or reading anything that they ought not know about. Similar attempts were made by the Chinese communist government when it tried to suppress news associated with the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

This blog site was shut down by WordPress when Cristian Mihai or Alan Chiriac complained to WordPress. We then had to contact WordPress and protest. We furnished our side of the story and sanity prevailed.

Just in case this type of thing happens again, or in case these two con men try to convince Google to stop posting the meta tags, we have set up a new home.

So please bookmark this new site, established especially to follow the Mihai and Chiriac Saga.

If ever we disappear from here before we are ready for a full migration, be sure to go to:

http://www.SpeakUpNow.Biz and you can always reach us at TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk and later at info@SpeakUpNow.biz.

We have not yet set this up properly, but we will soon have a bigger and better blog. We have a professional on board who will do an even better job.

We have received some funding for this project, so we will have better resources.

And if one day Mihai and Chiriac somehow manage to shut us down from every blog and from Hotmail and Google and Yahoo, we have a reserve of funds via generous donations, to go to the traditional methods of mass advertising on radio, print, TV and billboards along the highways of Romania. So let’s see how well court orders, complaints, and Big Brother tactics will work to suppress an angry crowd.

If con-men want to play dirty, they should also consider that victims are usually more resourceful than the criminals: and more determined too!

The new dedicated site at www.SpeakUpNow.Biz will soon contain Romanian and English text, along with photos, and a super-improved SEO in both languages. As well as helpers, volunteers, fans, benefactors, supporters, translators, writers, researchers, editors, informants, ex-employees, victims, angry clients, financiers and sponsors. Not to mention widgets and plug-ins to help escalate this fight until Mihai and Chiriac end up in court, or pay their victims. What could be simpler than that?

Dear friends,

This site will soon be moving to a bigger and better location. Be sure to bookmark Http://www.SpeakUpNow.biz in case we are forced to shut down this site.

Find someone who has read ‘1984’ and ask them what George Orwell was writing about. Most people talk about the concept of ‘Big Brother’. They remember the cameras in the street. What many forget is the idea that one central system can erase all the news, so that citizens can be deprived of hearing or reading anything that they ought not know about. Similar attempts were made by the Chinese communist government when it tried to suppress news associated with the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

This blog site was shut down by WordPress when Cristian Mihai or Alan Chiriac complained to WordPress. We then had to contact WordPress and protest. We furnished our side of the story and sanity prevailed.

Just in case this type of thing happens again, or in case these two con men try to convince Google to stop posting the meta tags, we have set up a new home.

So please bookmark this new site, established especially to follow the Mihai and Chiriac Saga.

If ever we disappear from here before we are ready for a full migration, be sure to go to:

http://www.SpeakUpNow.Biz and you can always reach us at TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk and later at info@SpeakUpNow.biz.

We have not yet set this up properly, but we will soon have a bigger and better blog. We have a professional on board who will do an even better job.

We have received some funding for this project, so we will have better resources.

And if one day Mihai and Chiriac somehow manage to shut us down from every blog and from Hotmail and Google and Yahoo, we have a reserve of funds via generous donations, to go to the traditional methods of mass advertising on radio, print, TV and billboards along the highways of Romania. So let’s see how well court orders, complaints, and Big Brother tactics will work to suppress an angry crowd.

If con-men want to play dirty, they should also consider that victims are usually more resourceful than the criminals: and more determined too!

The new dedicated site at www.SpeakUpNow.Biz will soon contain Romanian and English text, along with photos, and a super-improved SEO in both languages. As well as helpers, volunteers, fans, benefactors, supporters, translators, writers, researchers, editors, informants, ex-employees, victims, angry clients, financiers and sponsors. Not to mention widgets and plug-ins to help escalate this fight until Mihai and Chiriac end up in court, or pay their victims. What could be simpler than that?

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

If a terrorist wanted to smuggle a bomb from one town to the next, who do you think he would ask for help? He would ask someone who knows how to smuggle, such as a drug lord. Someone who ought to know everything about smuggling, border control, security, bribes, and networks, and who has connections.

What about a criminal? Suppose that someone wants to commit a major crime. What is one of the first things that a smart criminal thinks about? He would want to speak with expert lawyers and judges about which countries do not have extradition treaties with this country: meaning that if the criminal were to run and hide, which country would be the best one in which to hide, without fear of being forced back to his own country? There are many countries where you can go and stay, and be safe in the knowledge that a letter from one prime minister to the other, will not result in the criminal being captured and sent back upon request.

In the good old days, the same question was relevant in relation to money. No doubt you heard the expression ‘Swiss bank account’ being used to explain that someone has their money hidden at a Swiss bank, which means that due to the strong privacy laws in that country, you could hide heaps of money, and no court order could force them to disclose the owners of the accounts.

These are called safe havens.

And now we come to Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac. How do they protect themselves? How can they lead a group of companies, take money from clients, never do the work, and never pay it back? These are important questions that they and many crooks like them think about all the time. So much so that they have become experts at hiding. They lead their operation from the back. At the front line, they put other people who might or might not know what they are doing there. Some think that it is flattering to be promoted to a senior position. They do not realise that their name is being dragged through the mud. Their good nature is easily abused because they are not suspicious at first. Only years later they kick themselves and think, ‘I should never have been so stupid as to sign that piece of paper or put name to that project.’

By their good nature, people like to help, so when asked if they can help with certain documents or names or addresses, they oblige, not realising that they become a small player in the web of deceit.

Perhaps the first company that Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai formed was Arond Net. Perhaps at first they just needed genuine help, and later they realised how convenient it would be to use other names and operate a range of bank accounts and addresses.

Here we see an example of this convenience that creates a headache of authorities or unsuspecting clients.

This company was formed many years ago. It was registered as follows:

Sediu :STR. HUEDIN nr. 6 bloc M1/2 sc. B etaj P ap. 46 sector 4 cod postal 70000
Cod unic de inregistrare :15534090
Telefon :0728256059;4105514

The contact was listed as MOISESCU VIOREL

Since then, they have had many company names. So why hang on to this one? Because it is useful when trying to trick other people and new clients, and also to move money around and keep it away from the authorities. So, in November 2008, they were still using this company! Signing contract and taking money, noting the following confusing trail. In the same contract, these three images show the great variances in details, and in the end, when the client paid via PayPal, the money deposit went to one place and the balance to another, all ending up in the same pockets.

Keep a close watch on the DETAILS here. Note the address above and below, and then within the same contract, note the other conflicting details.

Then we have the issue of the money trail. Who is the mysterious Letitia Florea? She receives the money, and it seems that she is the mystery woman.

Sometimes this is spelt with a T and then a Z. Also convenient.

We have more, but you get the picture. These are screen captures automatically generated by PayPal. So it seems that they keep changing the names and now the account names.

All we have to do now is locate the mysterious Ms Florea and the possibly female Marius, and so the saga continues.

Next time a friend of yours asks you to sign a piece of paper, or to use your address etc, watch out. A thug I know who has over 12 high powered weapons said to me, my friends can have anything they like, but they can never borrow my wife or my guns. He knows what can happen. Don’t let anyone borrow your identity. You will get caught, while your leaders are far far behind, pleading ignorance and amazement.

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If a terrorist wanted to smuggle a bomb from one town to the next, who do you think he would ask for help? He would ask someone who knows how to smuggle, such as a drug lord. Someone who ought to know everything about smuggling, border control, security, bribes, and networks, and who has connections.

What about a criminal? Suppose that someone wants to commit a major crime. What is one of the first things that a smart criminal thinks about? He would want to speak with expert lawyers and judges about which countries do not have extradition treaties with this country: meaning that if the criminal were to run and hide, which country would be the best one in which to hide, without fear of being forced back to his own country? There are many countries where you can go and stay, and be safe in the knowledge that a letter from one prime minister to the other, will not result in the criminal being captured and sent back upon request.

In the good old days, the same question was relevant in relation to money. No doubt you heard the expression ‘Swiss bank account’ being used to explain that someone has their money hidden at a Swiss bank, which means that due to the strong privacy laws in that country, you could hide heaps of money, and no court order could force them to disclose the owners of the accounts.

These are called safe havens.

And now we come to Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac. How do they protect themselves? How can they lead a group of companies, take money from clients, never do the work, and never pay it back? These are important questions that they and many crooks like them think about all the time. So much so that they have become experts at hiding. They lead their operation from the back. At the front line, they put other people who might or might not know what they are doing there. Some think that it is flattering to be promoted to a senior position. They do not realise that their name is being dragged through the mud. Their good nature is easily abused because they are not suspicious at first. Only years later they kick themselves and think, ‘I should never have been so stupid as to sign that piece of paper or put name to that project.’

By their good nature, people like to help, so when asked if they can help with certain documents or names or addresses, they oblige, not realising that they become a small player in the web of deceit.

Perhaps the first company that Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai formed was Arond Net. Perhaps at first they just needed genuine help, and later they realised how convenient it would be to use other names and operate a range of bank accounts and addresses.

Here we see an example of this convenience that creates a headache of authorities or unsuspecting clients.

This company was formed many years ago. It was registered as follows:

Sediu :STR. HUEDIN nr. 6 bloc M1/2 sc. B etaj P ap. 46 sector 4 cod postal 70000
Cod unic de inregistrare :15534090
Telefon :0728256059;4105514

The contact was listed as MOISESCU VIOREL

Since then, they have had many company names. So why hang on to this one? Because it is useful when trying to trick other people and new clients, and also to move money around and keep it away from the authorities. So, in November 2008, they were still using this company! Signing contract and taking money, noting the following confusing trail. In the same contract, these three images show the great variances in details, and in the end, when the client paid via PayPal, the money deposit went to one place and the balance to another, all ending up in the same pockets.

Keep a close watch on the DETAILS here. Note the address above and below, and then within the same contract, note the other conflicting details.

Then we have the issue of the money trail. Who is the mysterious Letitia Florea? She receives the money, and it seems that she is the mystery woman.

Sometimes this is spelt with a T and then a Z. Also convenient.

We have more, but you get the picture. These are screen captures automatically generated by PayPal. So it seems that they keep changing the names and now the account names.

All we have to do now is locate the mysterious Ms Florea and the possibly female Marius, and so the saga continues.

Next time a friend of yours asks you to sign a piece of paper, or to use your address etc, watch out. A thug I know who has over 12 high powered weapons said to me, my friends can have anything they like, but they can never borrow my wife or my guns. He knows what can happen. Don’t let anyone borrow your identity. You will get caught, while your leaders are far far behind, pleading ignorance and amazement.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

It would be a good idea if every child, at birth, were given a name, a phone number, a passport number, an IP address, and a company name. That’s your lot mate!

In this way, if you stuff it up, you can’t just go and con other people as if nothing had happened. If you want to distroy your health, you can’t go and pretend it never happened. And so it must be in business. If you are a dirty rotten scoundrel like Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai, you should not be allowed to go and operate a new company or use a new name.

These two men from Twenty seem to pop new names like you and I use Kleenex tissues. Up comes a new one like they are some disposable item of stationery. They opened Adevox and conned people and stole money and destroyed opportunities and sacked staff and lied and cheated, and then they closed it. Come and go: end of story. Good bye. Too bad you were conned. You can’t do anything about it, and if you want to complain and tell the world about Adevox, no one cares because Adevox is dead.

And so these two con men will whip up a new name and up comes a new domain name. The latest is called www.MANDO.ro.

And if you go to that site, this is what you see:

Mando.ro uses this IP address (same as Twenty.ro) 89.36.25.42

The phone number listed on the Mando site is the phone number that they used to give out to some of their Adevox clients, being +4031 805 57 12.

There are two alarms ringing here. The first is the idea that Mando is a Google Advertising Professional. Codswallop! Rubbish. The joke around town is that Alin Chiriac has this certification, but if you take him in a room on his own and ask him to sit a most basic exam, he can just about write his name on the piece of paper and that’s all. He knows nothing about Google Advertising. He obtained the certification by using other people to process it for him. We shall be notifying Google of this soon. We just have so much to do in relation to other matters with these two funny men.

We say ‘funny’ because the tag-line for Mando is Trusted Results. Wait until I call an ambulance for some oxygen. We are out of breath from laughter. Trusted Results? These are two words that just cannot exist in any sentence that has the words Mihai and Chiriac in them.

They cannot be trusted and they don’t know the meaning of the word ‘results’. Give us a break!

More on this saga very soon. We hope that you will send this to all your friends and associates so that these two men will not have an opportunity to rip-off more people. We would be stupid and foolish if we did not let the world know about these shonky operators. They do not know how to run a business. They should not be permitted to rob anyone else.

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It would be a good idea if every child, at birth, were given a name, a phone number, a passport number, an IP address, and a company name. That’s your lot mate!

In this way, if you stuff it up, you can’t just go and con other people as if nothing had happened. If you want to distroy your health, you can’t go and pretend it never happened. And so it must be in business. If you are a dirty rotten scoundrel like Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai, you should not be allowed to go and operate a new company or use a new name.

These two men from Twenty seem to pop new names like you and I use Kleenex tissues. Up comes a new one like they are some disposable item of stationery. They opened Adevox and conned people and stole money and destroyed opportunities and sacked staff and lied and cheated, and then they closed it. Come and go: end of story. Good bye. Too bad you were conned. You can’t do anything about it, and if you want to complain and tell the world about Adevox, no one cares because Adevox is dead.

And so these two con men will whip up a new name and up comes a new domain name. The latest is called www.MANDO.ro.

And if you go to that site, this is what you see:

Mando.ro uses this IP address (same as Twenty.ro) 89.36.25.42

The phone number listed on the Mando site is the phone number that they used to give out to some of their Adevox clients, being +4031 805 57 12.

There are two alarms ringing here. The first is the idea that Mando is a Google Advertising Professional. Codswallop! Rubbish. The joke around town is that Alin Chiriac has this certification, but if you take him in a room on his own and ask him to sit a most basic exam, he can just about write his name on the piece of paper and that’s all. He knows nothing about Google Advertising. He obtained the certification by using other people to process it for him. We shall be notifying Google of this soon. We just have so much to do in relation to other matters with these two funny men.

We say ‘funny’ because the tag-line for Mando is Trusted Results. Wait until I call an ambulance for some oxygen. We are out of breath from laughter. Trusted Results? These are two words that just cannot exist in any sentence that has the words Mihai and Chiriac in them.

They cannot be trusted and they don’t know the meaning of the word ‘results’. Give us a break!

More on this saga very soon. We hope that you will send this to all your friends and associates so that these two men will not have an opportunity to rip-off more people. We would be stupid and foolish if we did not let the world know about these shonky operators. They do not know how to run a business. They should not be permitted to rob anyone else.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

In 1995, Will Smith starred in a movie called ‘Six degrees of separation’. Since then, this expression has been used when people speak, with amazement, at how small this world is. We all can reach each other via six people.

Since posting the entry about Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai having an American company in order to confuse the authorities about the disgraced Twenty Interactive, we have received several emails from complete strangers. Hats off to Google. How does it work? A simple blog like this, and despite the trillions of bits of information out there, somehow, the right information reaches the eyes of certain people, who know people. But how can two low-life no-bodies from Romania (who run a tin-pot agency) be so famous? That really is a great topic for anyone looking for ideas for a PhD thesis.

It scares me to think that this little blog is being read, this very second, by hundreds of people all around the world. Wouldn’t it be great if this very second, anyone whose eyes are glancing over THIS very word, could have their photo flash up on the left of the page, and more than this, we would use some great software to connect the dots between these people in the photo (what do they have in common?). How do they know Mihai and Chiriac? Or do they know their friends, or clients, or family? Were they once enemies or friends? Did they dine together, or argue with each other?

If you could see the types of emails we receive at this blog control centre, you would know why I am speechless. Three days ago we mentioned the American connection. And now, just by magic, faster than if we had hired a team of private investigators, and faster than if we had bribed anyone for information, we have, landed on our desk, from the other side of the world, from someone who wishes to remain anonymous, information about the company that Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai had registered in the USA.

Could it be true that between me and you and Mihai/Chiriac are only six people? Could it be true that within this world of over 6 billion people, we all know each other via six steps. I know him, he knows her, she knows them, they know you, and you know the con men at Twenty, via an Indian gentleman…

Our Indian friend knew someone in Delaware. It was all just a rumour on good authority. They knew the general outline, but they did not know the absolute facts. Within three days, a stranger writes to tell us that the new company is as follows (see below), and we checked it out with the US authorities, and bingo.

Oh by the way, I had no idea that in the USA, information is so readily available. Anyone can subscribe to all sorts of databases and search engines and find out everything about their neighbour. They can search a person’s criminal history etc. Amazing. In many countries this kind of thing is either impossible or illegal. But in the USA, nothing is private. Hence, within a few hours and $56 using a credit card, we were able to check the government files to confirm this new information about these two men who steal money and then try to cover their tracks. They will have to do better and try harder. $56 is way too easy to uncover their tracks.

The new company is called SCREENTEK GROUP LTD. Now I ask you: they have so many companies in Romania, like Twenty Advertising and Twenty Interactive and Adevox and OverBridge etc, that we now wonder why on earth they not only need a company in the USA, but they need one that has the word GROUP in it. Isn’t that a laugh! They will have a Group of companies! Wow.

So Screentek Group Ltd is registered at 113 Barksdale Professional Center at Newark in Newcastle at Delaware 19711.

They had prepared this almost 12 months ago, on the 16th of September 2008. Talk about vision and forethought. They had plotted all this twelve months ago. That’s what I call pre-meditated crime. Good stuff in court!

Although this is all true, you can bet that the office is not really an office. It is just a virtual serviced office from a company like this one:

http://www.successfuloffice.com/answering-service-and%20virtual-office-of-Delaware.htm

Here are some images of the serviced office. Pretty nice. Near a country club.

Hey Messrs Mihai and Chiriac: when we said the world was becoming global, we did not mean for you crooks to have an office in every corner while you sit at Sector 5 and Sector 3 and count your takings.

Pay your employees and pay your victims. Refunds all round please. Best do it now before more people contact more people who know more people who read blogs. The English language is a strange one. The word ‘famous’ and the word ‘infamous’ are similar. They carry the same weight You are going through a tunnel at the moment. Why don’t you quit while you are humbly famous. You do not want to emerge at the our end as ‘infamous’. If it gets to that, you can kiss your Country Club membership good-bye. Not enough room to swing a cat inside the place you will be taken, in handcuffs. According to people who should know, the 31 prisons in Romania have room for 29,400 inmates. But unfortunately, they house over 41,000 inmates. Hardly enough room for an internet connection.

]]> http://twentyscam.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/six-degrees-of-separation-for-mihai-and-chiriac-uncovers-screentek-usa/ Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:45:42 +0000 The Hunter http://twentyscam.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/six-degrees-of-separation-for-mihai-and-chiriac-uncovers-screentek-usa/

THIS SITE HAS A NEW HOME AT www.SpeakUpNow.biz

In 1995, Will Smith starred in a movie called ‘Six degrees of separation’. Since then, this expression has been used when people speak, with amazement, at how small this world is. We all can reach each other via six people.

Since posting the entry about Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai having an American company in order to confuse the authorities about the disgraced Twenty Interactive, we have received several emails from complete strangers. Hats off to Google. How does it work? A simple blog like this, and despite the trillions of bits of information out there, somehow, the right information reaches the eyes of certain people, who know people. But how can two low-life no-bodies from Romania (who run a tin-pot agency) be so famous? That really is a great topic for anyone looking for ideas for a PhD thesis.

It scares me to think that this little blog is being read, this very second, by hundreds of people all around the world. Wouldn’t it be great if this very second, anyone whose eyes are glancing over THIS very word, could have their photo flash up on the left of the page, and more than this, we would use some great software to connect the dots between these people in the photo (what do they have in common?). How do they know Mihai and Chiriac? Or do they know their friends, or clients, or family? Were they once enemies or friends? Did they dine together, or argue with each other?

If you could see the types of emails we receive at this blog control centre, you would know why I am speechless. Three days ago we mentioned the American connection. And now, just by magic, faster than if we had hired a team of private investigators, and faster than if we had bribed anyone for information, we have, landed on our desk, from the other side of the world, from someone who wishes to remain anonymous, information about the company that Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai had registered in the USA.

Could it be true that between me and you and Mihai/Chiriac are only six people? Could it be true that within this world of over 6 billion people, we all know each other via six steps. I know him, he knows her, she knows them, they know you, and you know the con men at Twenty, via an Indian gentleman…

Our Indian friend knew someone in Delaware. It was all just a rumour on good authority. They knew the general outline, but they did not know the absolute facts. Within three days, a stranger writes to tell us that the new company is as follows (see below), and we checked it out with the US authorities, and bingo.

Oh by the way, I had no idea that in the USA, information is so readily available. Anyone can subscribe to all sorts of databases and search engines and find out everything about their neighbour. They can search a person’s criminal history etc. Amazing. In many countries this kind of thing is either impossible or illegal. But in the USA, nothing is private. Hence, within a few hours and $56 using a credit card, we were able to check the government files to confirm this new information about these two men who steal money and then try to cover their tracks. They will have to do better and try harder. $56 is way too easy to uncover their tracks.

The new company is called SCREENTEK GROUP LTD. Now I ask you: they have so many companies in Romania, like Twenty Advertising and Twenty Interactive and Adevox and OverBridge etc, that we now wonder why on earth they not only need a company in the USA, but they need one that has the word GROUP in it. Isn’t that a laugh! They will have a Group of companies! Wow.

So Screentek Group Ltd is registered at 113 Barksdale Professional Center at Newark in Newcastle at Delaware 19711.

They had prepared this almost 12 months ago, on the 16th of September 2008. Talk about vision and forethought. They had plotted all this twelve months ago. That’s what I call pre-meditated crime. Good stuff in court!

Although this is all true, you can bet that the office is not really an office. It is just a virtual serviced office from a company like this one:

http://www.successfuloffice.com/answering-service-and%20virtual-office-of-Delaware.htm

Here are some images of the serviced office. Pretty nice. Near a country club.

Hey Messrs Mihai and Chiriac: when we said the world was becoming global, we did not mean for you crooks to have an office in every corner while you sit at Sector 5 and Sector 3 and count your takings.

Pay your employees and pay your victims. Refunds all round please. Best do it now before more people contact more people who know more people who read blogs. The English language is a strange one. The word ‘famous’ and the word ‘infamous’ are similar. They carry the same weight You are going through a tunnel at the moment. Why don’t you quit while you are humbly famous. You do not want to emerge at the our end as ‘infamous’. If it gets to that, you can kiss your Country Club membership good-bye. Not enough room to swing a cat inside the place you will be taken, in handcuffs. According to people who should know, the 31 prisons in Romania have room for 29,400 inmates. But unfortunately, they house over 41,000 inmates. Hardly enough room for an internet connection.

]]> http://adevoxtwentyscam.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/cristian-mihai-and-alin-chiriac-become-american-tycoons/ Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:02:31 +0000 Twenty Adevox http://adevoxtwentyscam.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/cristian-mihai-and-alin-chiriac-become-american-tycoons/

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

I once knew a husband and wife who started by loving each other. Then one day the husband started carrying a second mobile phone.

I wondered why anyone would need two phones and two phone numbers? Of course there could be many reasons. My first suspicion was later proved to be the correct one: he was cheating on his wife. He wanted a new account with a new address so that any saucy text messages he sent and received to his girlfriend, and any statements and accounts, were hidden from his wife.

He had told his wife that he needed the second phone for work. I suspected that he had something to hide. And I was right.

And so it is with any company director who needs so many company names. You have to stop and wonder why Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac were never satisfied with one company name. Why did they need to have Twenty and Twenty Agency and Twenty Interactive and Twenty Advertising and Twenty Media and Adevox and Overbridge and Helpero and others. Twenty is such an interesting name. Perhaps they were planning on 20 companies. Or did they start off with a company called One, and then Two and now they are up to Twenty?

I have no doubt that very good explanations can be given as to why they need to own so many entities, such as new divisions to handle new clients in new markets with new services around new technologies… But they are small-time business men, not exactly the size of the Donald Trump empire.

They are too small to need so many companies and brands and names and divisions. But to understand this, you have to consider the nature of Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac. When you start with that in mind, you will see that they open and close companies not for commercial reasons, but for criminal ones. They use different people’s names and addresses to shield them from investigators and regulators.

Romania is a big place, and the world is even bigger. But the web, with billions of hits and sites, is indeed, the smallest place of all. Globalization on a grand scale just gets smaller. The larger the global connection, the smaller the neighborhood. We say this because it seems that the Romanian authorities, who are pursuing these two con-artists and cyber-thieves for over US$300,000, are way too busy, but they are trying their best to bring them to justice. Sadly, the legal system is a slow one. The legal framework tries to be fair (when it is not corrupt). And so, a good legal system will do everything well, diligently, accurately, slowly, and fairly. It operates on proof. It needs a paper trail. It needs iron-clad and bullet-proof evidence. And for this reason, it wants to be sure that it does not put heads on the chopping block unless those heads are, without a shadow of a doubt, guilty.

Crooks and con-artists and corporate criminals and unethical scammers are clever. They know this about the judicial system, so they obfuscate it, they confuse it, they trick it, they blur it, and they obstruct it.

A lawyer or police officer or court clerk are way too busy to monitor everything. And for this reason, crooks get away with it. Funny that Bernard Madoff who took US$60 billion by fraud and deception was indeed investigated over a 16-year period, and they could not find anything on him. But 16 years ago, we did not have the internet in full swing.

Now, with a simple blog like this, we bring the world together and everyone is willing to help, because everyone hates criminals and liars and cheats who do not stop to correct their ways.

This is a long introduction to something that is quite dramatic.

THE INDIANS ARE COMING

Don’t ask me how or why, because it is too spectacular for words, but, someone from India knows someone from Romania who knows someone from the UK who knows someone in the USA who knows someone from Romania who knows someone from India who knows someone from Delaware, who spoke to a little bird in India who sent us some information that is absolutely stunning. Stuff that movie plots are made of.

We can’t tell you everything yet, because we do not want to spoil the investigations for the authorities, but Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac now deserve some gold star. They are showing their genius; unless someone else has advised them to do this, but the Indian connection has told us, in a lovely Indian accent, that these two men are planning to set up a company in the USA. No, not to go there and become great hotshots of the advertising or media world, but to obfuscate, obstruct, confuse, stifle, and trick the Romanian government. By setting up an American company, they can use that US company to buy Twenty Interactive – one of the companies that owes a lot of money to the Romanian government etc.

This is hard to follow. We need Columbo or Kojak or Inspector Morse or Frost or 007 or someone to simplify it, but it all boils down to a stroke of genius. If the American company buys the troubled Twenty Interactive, then now, technically, an American company owes the debts. So if the Romanian government wants to chase after the US$300,ooo plus interest, it will have to deal with the Yanks. And so, while Alin and Cristi are just down the road from the court house, they can refuse to speak with the authorities. I can just imagine how the movie script will go:

POLICE: My name is Inspector Robo from the Romanian Police, I need to speak with you two men.

MIHAI: Us two? What about?

POLICE: The debts you owe and the irregularities and the fraud and the lies…

CHIRIAC: No officer, you have it all wrong. We have nothing to do with it. You need to speak with the new company owners. We were taken-over by the American mob. We suffered a hostile corporate take-over. We are the victims in all of this.

POLICE: But you are the directors of Twenty Interactive!

MIHAI: No, we were. But not any longer. You need to speak with the Americans.

POLICE: You want me to go all the way to America?

CHIRIAC: Yep, all the way to Delaware.

POLICE: Why?

MIHAI: Because that’s where the new owners are.

POLICE: And who are the directors of this new American company that has bought you out?

CHIRIAC: Um, let’s see, oh I did know their name. It is on the tip of my tongue… do you know Cristi?

MIHAI: Ah, um, some duo called… oh yes, I remember now. Their names are Mr Chiriac and Mr Mihai.

POLICE: That’s funny, isn’t that your names?

MIHAI: Oh, so it is.

POLICE: So you two own this new company!

CHIRIAC: Must be, I guess, I think so, um I suppose so.

POLICE: Ok then, so I need to speak with you about the debts you owe us.

CHIRIAC: Sorry, you can’t speak with us.

POLICE: But you are the directors.

MIHAI: Who told you that?

POLICE: You just did.

CHIRIAC: Oh; well; yes, but we are the directors of Twenty Mark.

POLICE: No, you just said you are the directors of the new owning company.

MIHAI: Not at this moment.

POLICE: At which moment?

CHIRIAC: You obviously do not understand international corporate law. You see, at this moment, we are the Twenty Mark directors.

POLICE: Do you own this American company?

CHIRIAC: Yes, but…

POLICE: Hey, stop talking. You are the owners and so I want to speak with you…

MIHAI: No no, you really do not know your legal jurisdictions. What do they teach you at the police academy? Listen officer, if you want to speak to the owners of the new company, you have to go to the USA.

POLICE: But you are standing right here, right now.

CHIRIAC: No, while ever we are here, you cannot question us. We are Romanian, not American. You want the American Mihai and Chiriac.

POLICE: So I have to go to Delaware to speak with you.

MIHAI: Yep, but you won’t have much luck.

POLICE: Why’s that?

CHIRIAC: Because we aren’t there, obviously. Are you blind or something!

POLICE: I give up.

MIHAI: [muttering to his partner: This is easier than I thought...]

CHIRIAC: [whispering back: Pretty soon we'll have so many companies, all around the world, we'll be eligible for export grants...]

[Scene fades to sounds of sinister laughter.]

THIS SITE HAS A NEW HOME AT www.SpeakUpNow.biz

I once knew a husband and wife who started by loving each other. Then one day the husband started carrying a second mobile phone.

I wondered why anyone would need two phones and two phone numbers? Of course there could be many reasons. My first suspicion was later proved to be the correct one: he was cheating on his wife. He wanted a new account with a new address so that any saucy text messages he sent and received to his girlfriend, and any statements and accounts, were hidden from his wife.

He had told his wife that he needed the second phone for work. I suspected that he had something to hide. And I was right.

And so it is with any company director who needs so many company names. You have to stop and wonder why Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac were never satisfied with one company name. Why did they need to have Twenty and Twenty Agency and Twenty Interactive and Twenty Advertising and Twenty Media and Adevox and Overbridge and Helpero and others. Twenty is such an interesting name. Perhaps they were planning on 20 companies. Or did they start off with a company called One, and then Two and now they are up to Twenty?

I have no doubt that very good explanations can be given as to why they need to own so many entities, such as new divisions to handle new clients in new markets with new services around new technologies… But they are small-time business men, not exactly the size of the Donald Trump empire.

They are too small to need so many companies and brands and names and divisions. But to understand this, you have to consider the nature of Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac. When you start with that in mind, you will see that they open and close companies not for commercial reasons, but for criminal ones. They use different people’s names and addresses to shield them from investigators and regulators.

Romania is a big place, and the world is even bigger. But the web, with billions of hits and sites, is indeed, the smallest place of all. Globalization on a grand scale just gets smaller. The larger the global connection, the smaller the neighborhood. We say this because it seems that the Romanian authorities, who are pursuing these two con-artists and cyber-thieves for over US$300,000, are way too busy, but they are trying their best to bring them to justice. Sadly, the legal system is a slow one. The legal framework tries to be fair (when it is not corrupt). And so, a good legal system will do everything well, diligently, accurately, slowly, and fairly. It operates on proof. It needs a paper trail. It needs iron-clad and bullet-proof evidence. And for this reason, it wants to be sure that it does not put heads on the chopping block unless those heads are, without a shadow of a doubt, guilty.

Crooks and con-artists and corporate criminals and unethical scammers are clever. They know this about the judicial system, so they obfuscate it, they confuse it, they trick it, they blur it, and they obstruct it.

A lawyer or police officer or court clerk are way too busy to monitor everything. And for this reason, crooks get away with it. Funny that Bernard Madoff who took US$60 billion by fraud and deception was indeed investigated over a 16-year period, and they could not find anything on him. But 16 years ago, we did not have the internet in full swing.

Now, with a simple blog like this, we bring the world together and everyone is willing to help, because everyone hates criminals and liars and cheats who do not stop to correct their ways.

This is a long introduction to something that is quite dramatic.

THE INDIANS ARE COMING

Don’t ask me how or why, because it is too spectacular for words, but, someone from India knows someone from Romania who knows someone from the UK who knows someone in the USA who knows someone from Romania who knows someone from India who knows someone from Delaware, who spoke to a little bird in India who sent us some information that is absolutely stunning. Stuff that movie plots are made of.

We can’t tell you everything yet, because we do not want to spoil the investigations for the authorities, but Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac now deserve some gold star. They are showing their genius; unless someone else has advised them to do this, but the Indian connection has told us, in a lovely Indian accent, that these two men are planning to set up a company in the USA. No, not to go there and become great hotshots of the advertising or media world, but to obfuscate, obstruct, confuse, stifle, and trick the Romanian government. By setting up an American company, they can use that US company to buy Twenty Interactive – one of the companies that owes a lot of money to the Romanian government etc.

This is hard to follow. We need Columbo or Kojak or Inspector Morse or Frost or 007 or someone to simplify it, but it all boils down to a stroke of genius. If the American company buys the troubled Twenty Interactive, then now, technically, an American company owes the debts. So if the Romanian government wants to chase after the US$300,ooo plus interest, it will have to deal with the Yanks. And so, while Alin and Cristi are just down the road from the court house, they can refuse to speak with the authorities. I can just imagine how the movie script will go:

POLICE: My name is Inspector Robo from the Romanian Police, I need to speak with you two men.

MIHAI: Us two? What about?

POLICE: The debts you owe and the irregularities and the fraud and the lies…

CHIRIAC: No officer, you have it all wrong. We have nothing to do with it. You need to speak with the new company owners. We were taken-over by the American mob. We suffered a hostile corporate take-over. We are the victims in all of this.

POLICE: But you are the directors of Twenty Interactive!

MIHAI: No, we were. But not any longer. You need to speak with the Americans.

POLICE: You want me to go all the way to America?

CHIRIAC: Yep, all the way to Delaware.

POLICE: Why?

MIHAI: Because that’s where the new owners are.

POLICE: And who are the directors of this new American company that has bought you out?

CHIRIAC: Um, let’s see, oh I did know their name. It is on the tip of my tongue… do you know Cristi?

MIHAI: Ah, um, some duo called… oh yes, I remember now. Their names are Mr Chiriac and Mr Mihai.

POLICE: That’s funny, isn’t that your names?

MIHAI: Oh, so it is.

POLICE: So you two own this new company!

CHIRIAC: Must be, I guess, I think so, um I suppose so.

POLICE: Ok then, so I need to speak with you about the debts you owe us.

CHIRIAC: Sorry, you can’t speak with us.

POLICE: But you are the directors.

MIHAI: Who told you that?

POLICE: You just did.

CHIRIAC: Oh; well; yes, but we are the directors of Twenty Mark.

POLICE: No, you just said you are the directors of the new owning company.

MIHAI: Not at this moment.

POLICE: At which moment?

CHIRIAC: You obviously do not understand international corporate law. You see, at this moment, we are the Twenty Mark directors.

POLICE: Do you own this American company?

CHIRIAC: Yes, but…

POLICE: Hey, stop talking. You are the owners and so I want to speak with you…

MIHAI: No no, you really do not know your legal jurisdictions. What do they teach you at the police academy? Listen officer, if you want to speak to the owners of the new company, you have to go to the USA.

POLICE: But you are standing right here, right now.

CHIRIAC: No, while ever we are here, you cannot question us. We are Romanian, not American. You want the American Mihai and Chiriac.

POLICE: So I have to go to Delaware to speak with you.

MIHAI: Yep, but you won’t have much luck.

POLICE: Why’s that?

CHIRIAC: Because we aren’t there, obviously. Are you blind or something!

POLICE: I give up.

MIHAI: [muttering to his partner: This is easier than I thought...]

CHIRIAC: [whispering back: Pretty soon we'll have so many companies, all around the world, we'll be eligible for export grants...]

[Scene fades to sounds of sinister laughter.]

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

Last week, Cristian Mihai and Alain Chriac tried to cover one lie with another lie. That must be a master-stroke. What can a liar do? When asked to tell the truth, he will lie, and say: Trust me, this time I am telling the truth!

So here we go…

Some clients contacted Twenty Media (or whatever their name is this week) and asked about the rumours. They asked if it is true that Twenty and Adevox and Helpero and Overbridge and Twenty Advertising… is taking money and not delivering. So what did Mihai and Chirac do? They sent a letter.

Here it is. We will soon translate it into English and update this post.

However, how can this letter say that they are not in liquidation/bankruptcy when we just received an email from a former client that shows that Mihai had written to the client within hours of this letter going out, wherein Mihai says:

‘…twenty as owner of adevox is filed for bankruptcy by the romanian authorities this means that we no longer have control of the company.’

This was stated on 27 August 2009.

And in case you are doubtful, here is the 100% photographic evidence from the email. This image shows the exact quote form Cristian Mihai, along with the client’s letter of demand after six months of frustrations and endless lies and incompetence.

The client Mary, then asked for the name of the administrators etc, and Mihai did not respond. Does he not know his duty as a company director? Tut tut!

By the way, Mary was kind enough to allow us to show her original letter to Cristian Mihai. Here it is in two pages:

And if they wish to deny it, we can send these headers to a forensic expert who will tell a judge that these are the headers/source.

From: cristian@twenty.ro

Subject: Re: Refund request re Adevox

Date: 27 August 2009 11:23:23 PM

Received: (qmail 20930 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2009 13:42:09 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO pre-smtp19-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) ([10.0.19.119]) (envelope-sender <SRS0=JKsz=ET=twenty.ro=cristian@bounce.secureserver.net>) by p3plsmtp04-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP>; 27 Aug 2009 13:42:09 -0000

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So you see, another bloody lie! Lie baby lie. Hurt people. Steal. Run. Lie. There is a brick wall somewhere, and these two men are moving at high speed. A collision is certain.

By the way, will they send out another letter outlining what the authorities are demanding from them? Or shall we post the letters here to save them the trouble? They are being pursued by the authorities. Ask them to deny that, and ask them to put their rubber stamp on that letter.

Give it six months and these two men will not only change their company name for the millionth time, but they might well change their personal names. How about Tom and Jerry!

More clients and staff and freelancers are writing to us. So we have lots more. Stay tuned. Can’t wait to share more with you. And the reason that we are sharing it, is so that you do not fall victim.

THIS SITE HAS A NEW HOME AT www.SpeakUpNow.biz

Last week, Cristian Mihai and Alain Chriac tried to cover one lie with another lie. That must be a master-stroke. What can a liar do? When asked to tell the truth, he will lie, and say: Trust me, this time I am telling the truth!

So here we go…

Some clients contacted Twenty Media (or whatever their name is this week) and asked about the rumours. They asked if it is true that Twenty and Adevox and Helpero and Overbridge and Twenty Advertising… is taking money and not delivering. So what did Mihai and Chirac do? They sent a letter.

Here it is. We will soon translate it into English and update this post.

However, how can this letter say that they are not in liquidation/bankruptcy when we just received an email from a former client that shows that Mihai had written to the client within hours of this letter going out, wherein Mihai says:

‘…twenty as owner of adevox is filed for bankruptcy by the romanian authorities this means that we no longer have control of the company.’

This was stated on 27 August 2009.

And in case you are doubtful, here is the 100% photographic evidence from the email. This image shows the exact quote form Cristian Mihai, along with the client’s letter of demand after six months of frustrations and endless lies and incompetence.

The client Mary, then asked for the name of the administrators etc, and Mihai did not respond. Does he not know his duty as a company director? Tut tut!

By the way, Mary was kind enough to allow us to show her original letter to Cristian Mihai. Here it is in two pages:

And if they wish to deny it, we can send these headers to a forensic expert who will tell a judge that these are the headers/source.

From: cristian@twenty.ro

Subject: Re: Refund request re Adevox

Date: 27 August 2009 11:23:23 PM

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So you see, another bloody lie! Lie baby lie. Hurt people. Steal. Run. Lie. There is a brick wall somewhere, and these two men are moving at high speed. A collision is certain.

By the way, will they send out another letter outlining what the authorities are demanding from them? Or shall we post the letters here to save them the trouble? They are being pursued by the authorities. Ask them to deny that, and ask them to put their rubber stamp on that letter.

Give it six months and these two men will not only change their company name for the millionth time, but they might well change their personal names. How about Tom and Jerry!

More clients and staff and freelancers are writing to us. So we have lots more. Stay tuned. Can’t wait to share more with you. And the reason that we are sharing it, is so that you do not fall victim.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

If you have paid Twenty or any of its many other names and incarnations (via PayPal), you are encouraged to lodge a complaint via PayPal.

If the work is over 45 days old, PayPal cannot help you. But PayPal, with whom we spoke today said that it is in the community;’s interest for us all to lodge a complaint. This will flag the unethical nature of Alin Chiriac’s and Cristian Mihai’s activities.

These men are using PayPal as a way of receiving money. But every time, they change their name and identity. If people do not complain, PayPal cannot keep a good track of who they are, and cannot stop them as quickly.

So please, do go to your PayPal account, if you have paid that way and have not received a refund, and lodge a complaint. Even if you are outside the 45 days. You might not open a case for your own sake, but you will be mounting evidence to help others down the track.

For example, Twenty hid behind Adevox and then used the name Adevoxpayme and then they used Letiitia and then Letizia07 and then Helpero. So you see, they keep changing the name so that they can use this payment facility. They need to be stopped. Unless we all speak up, they will continue to hurt people.

Here is what PayPal said to do, and they asked me to post this on this blog:

QUOTE:

In order to file a dispute for a transaction sent through PayPal please follow these steps:

1. Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.

2. Click ‘Resolution Centre’ at the top of your Account Overview page.

3. You will have the option of:

o Clicking the ‘Dispute a Transaction’ button, or

o Clicking the ‘Report a Problem’ tab and then clicking the ’Report a Problem’ button.

4. Select ‘Item dispute’ and click ‘Continue’.

5. Click the ‘Find transaction ID’ button to display your history.

o Change the dates in the drop-down to find the transaction and click ‘Search’.

o Click the transaction ID.

6. Click ‘Continue’ and follow the instructions.

Please do not mail or email your dispute, as it causes unnecessary delays.

END QUOTE.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

If you have paid Twenty, or any of its many other names and incarnations (via PayPal), you are encouraged to lodge a complaint via PayPal.

If the work is over 45 days old, PayPal cannot help you. But PayPal, with whom we spoke today said that it is in the community’s interest for us all to lodge a complaint. This will flag the unethical nature of Alin Chiriac’s and Cristian Mihai’s activities.

These men are using PayPal as a way of receiving money. But every time, they change their name and identity. If people do not complain, PayPal cannot keep a good track of who they are, and cannot stop them as quickly.

So please, do go to your PayPal account, if you have paid that way and have not received a refund, and lodge a complaint. Even if you are outside the 45 days. You might not open a case for your own sake, but you will be mounting evidence to help others down the track.

For example, Twenty hid behind Adevox and then used the name Adevoxpayme and then they used Letitia and then Letizia07 and then Helpero. So you see, they keep changing the name so that they can use this payment facility. They need to be stopped. Unless we all speak up, they will continue to hurt people.

Here is what PayPal said to do, and they asked me to post this on this blog:

QUOTE:

In order to file a dispute for a transaction sent through PayPal please follow these steps:

1. Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.

2. Click ‘Resolution Centre’ at the top of your Account Overview page.

3. You will have the option of:

o Clicking the ‘Dispute a Transaction’ button, or

o Clicking the ‘Report a Problem’ tab and then clicking the ’Report a Problem’ button.

4. Select ‘Item dispute’ and click ‘Continue’.

5. Click the ‘Find transaction ID’ button to display your history.

o Change the dates in the drop-down to find the transaction and click ‘Search’.

o Click the transaction ID.

6. Click ‘Continue’ and follow the instructions.

Please do not mail or email your dispute, as it causes unnecessary delays.

END QUOTE.

THIS SITE HAS A NEW HOME AT www.SpeakUpNow.biz

If you have paid Twenty, or any of its many other names and incarnations (via PayPal), you are encouraged to lodge a complaint via PayPal.

If the work is over 45 days old, PayPal cannot help you. But PayPal, with whom we spoke today said that it is in the community’s interest for us all to lodge a complaint. This will flag the unethical nature of Alin Chiriac’s and Cristian Mihai’s activities.

These men are using PayPal as a way of receiving money. But every time, they change their name and identity. If people do not complain, PayPal cannot keep a good track of who they are, and cannot stop them as quickly.

So please, do go to your PayPal account, if you have paid that way and have not received a refund, and lodge a complaint. Even if you are outside the 45 days. You might not open a case for your own sake, but you will be mounting evidence to help others down the track.

For example, Twenty hid behind Adevox and then used the name Adevoxpayme and then they used Letitia and then Letizia07 and then Helpero. So you see, they keep changing the name so that they can use this payment facility. They need to be stopped. Unless we all speak up, they will continue to hurt people.

Here is what PayPal said to do, and they asked me to post this on this blog:

QUOTE:

In order to file a dispute for a transaction sent through PayPal please follow these steps:

1. Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.

2. Click ‘Resolution Centre’ at the top of your Account Overview page.

3. You will have the option of:

o Clicking the ‘Dispute a Transaction’ button, or

o Clicking the ‘Report a Problem’ tab and then clicking the ’Report a Problem’ button.

4. Select ‘Item dispute’ and click ‘Continue’.

5. Click the ‘Find transaction ID’ button to display your history.

o Change the dates in the drop-down to find the transaction and click ‘Search’.

o Click the transaction ID.

6. Click ‘Continue’ and follow the instructions.

Please do not mail or email your dispute, as it causes unnecessary delays.

END QUOTE.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

Dear reader

Indeed, the previous blogs were emotional. They were a reaction to the underhanded and unethical behavior by Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai. The blogs were trying to save other people from becoming victims, because it really hurts when we are conned.

It is humiliating and shameful. Often, executives feel embarrassed that it could happen to them. That is how Bernard Madoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff became so bad. He kept lying to people and finally took Billions of dollars from them. Most of them did not dare speak up, because they did not want their name to become mud. How can rich, successful, intelligent people be conned by Mr Madoff? So they said nothing. And by saying nothing, he kept doing what he did, because no one wanted to be the first to speak up.

I think I am the first to speak up about Alin and Cristian, and as such, my blog might sound like one voice of an angry customer. And we all know how troublesome one angry customer can be. We can all empathise with a business that has to tolerate an angry customer. And so, in due course, Alin and Cristian will tell you that this blog is by some crazy person who is acting like a child. And in due course, their slick sales tactics will lull you into a false sense of security as you begin to feel sorry for them that someone like me is giving them this type of distraction.

So the time has come now to move away from the emotion and start to state the facts. As a global citizen, I am doing my duty to help others so that they are not conned and hurt. If you do not care about this blog, then by all means, go and do whatever you like. Do not fight with me. Some people seem to be angry at me. Why do such people feel that they can judge me and my story when they do not know the facts? I am blogging here so that we can all learn to speak-up when con-artists strike. Otherwise we become part of the problem.

Sure, I have not fully exposed my name. Partly because I am speaking for a range of people who have joined this fight. This blog is not about me or my ego or my bruises or my losses. It is about two men who are unethical and downright thieves. They cheat people and they lie to the government and they wake up every morning with a new lie. The only way that they are going to stop, is by being stopped. I have no hope whatsoever that they will go out to lunch and discuss their options in terms of being good corporate citizens. I have no doubt that they will keep defrauding people and cleverly escaping via legal loopholes, until they hit a brick wall. I have seen good men go down hill like this. Their life just gets worse. Instead of thinking about justice and honour, they start thinking about ways to cover-up their mess. In the process, they will create more mess, by bribing people, lying some more, and becoming entangled in such a web of deceit that they either baffle the authorities to such a degree that they get away with it, or they are arrested. At this point, they will say ‘sorry’, but that means that they were sorry that they were caught, and not at all sorry for their bad illegal behavior.

If they are telling you that I am just one upset customer, then they are wrong. This blog represents a range of people whose businesses have been badly impacted. It is bad enough that we have all had to suffer a bad economic year, without being cheated along the way. We all are trying hard to save money, and now by the actions of these two men, we have lost money, lost time, lost opportunity, lost face, lost faith, lost confidence, and lost hope in the human spirit. We are not complaining that we ordered a meal at a restaurant that was cold. Or that we do not like the colour of the web site that someone designed. We are saying something completely different: Someone set up Adevox and bid on our job. They took the money, lied, and then one day, they shut down Adevox. No trace if it. No emails would work. No one would respond. They just vanished. What is this called? It’s like ordering your new car at a car yard, paying for it, and being told that it will be delivered next week. And when you go to pick it up, the whole building is empty. The phones do not work. The emails do not work. The website is taken down. Vanished. Is this a Hollywood Mafia style of set up or what? That is what this blog is about. We are not arguing about errors or bad craftsmanship. These are of course issues, but not worth arguing about now. How can we argue about a car being the wrong colour, when there is no car to speak of.

You see, we have been conned and we feel bad about it because we were stupid. We paid up front. Why did we do this? We paid because we wanted Twenty and Adevox to prosper. We felt that they were a small business, just like us, and that we were extending our hand of friendship to them. We needed them to help us with our websites and our projects, and we were nice and decent and honest and honourable to give them the money up front, knowing that it was a risk, but we treated them with respect and with a sense of honour, to cheer them along in the hope that they can prosper. We treated them like we desire to be treated.

We were stupid to pay up-front for a job that was not yet ready. We could have gone on Elance.com or RentaCoder.com or Guru or a range of other places, and hired any one of 40,000 programmers and coders and designers who would have been glad to work at minimal wage and under our strict risk-free terms. One of our group is from Australia. He paid nearly US$4000 for a site that was never finished, was filled with errors, that does not work, that has not yet been useful, that has halted his business, that has caused many real problems in terms of credibility with his affiliates (long and hard story). US$4000 is a lot of money to throw away, and to drag a deadline over seven months and then end up with nothing. Zip. Zero. The site is useless and is not used. And to this day, they have not given the client his passwords. His paypal account is mathematically wrong. Dozens of pages are not yet up. Hundreds of files are not up. The database is not working etc. It is rubbish, with a glossy front that just looks nice because it has some nice photos.

Here is another example of the scam. The brief asked for a blog. Any child at the age of ten can go to WordPress or Blogger and create a blog in ten second. But the brief was for a professional blog on his own site that does not rely on a third party, and for very good reasons. He paid good money, knowing that US$4000 in Romania is a lot of money, and what did he get? A WordPress page! Is that an insult or what? The media players are free Yahoo players that are problematic. The list of issues extends to 50 pages (which were submitted to his lawyer etc), and I am not going to outline them here, but certainly, one day soon, I will ask all the victims to upload their story. But for now, they want some privacy until they fix their issues.

One victim is a games company involved with Wrestling. Cristian and Alin told their team to bid on the job, knowing 100% that they could not deliver on that brief. They did not care about any brief. They instructed their staff to bid on any job, no matter what. Alin was building his new house and he needed the cash, so he said that any client will do. Just go and do whatever it takes to win business. This was easy cash! What a great way to make money. Go now on Elance and bid on every job. Any job. All jobs. Ask for a deposit and just disappear. Wow. Good money.

They have a history of bankruptcy. See the attached image from the Romanian Government site that lists the bankruptcy of three of their companies. These show over US$300,000 owing!

Yet they are still operating because they know how to cheat the system. But the system will catch up with them because we have engaged lawyers who know how to handle these matters legally.

These two men also owe many thousands of Euros to their staff. So they cheat clients, and they cheat their staff. What kind of human would you have to be to abuse people like this? Poor staff work for a simple salary just to live a simple life, pay the rent, buy some food, and keep their dignity. And they were used as slaves to go get involved in a scam that hurt people, while they were hurting themselves. They could not just walk out. They could see that things were not right, but they lived in hope, thinking that maybe they will not be cheated. They had no choice. Where could they go? So they stayed as long as they could until they hit a brick wall. It seems that people do not take action until they hit a brick wall.

Every day we see stories like this in the news, like the girl who won millions of dollars and after a few years, had lost every cent. She could not stop until she was stopped by a nil balance in the bank. Or the man who abuses his daughter or a stranger and uses them as sex slaves for ten or twenty years until they are caught. If they are not caught, they never stop. Like the executive who starts sealing from the company to support a gambling habit, and never knows when to stop until the police take him away.

And so with every transaction, it seems that Alin and Cristian will take great intellectual delight in scheming up intellectually dishonest ways to make money or steal money. Of course they could use their clever brains to think of ethical and honest ways, but that is not how they are wired. Their brain is programmed to think of evil ways. So if they are transacting with PayPal, they will dream of ways to cheat the system or the tax or the client or their family and each other. Crooks like these two, seem like a strong pair. For now they are great mates. They have common enemies. But wait a little while longer and they will turn on each other because they would have lied to each other. A liar is a liar. How can you go into partnership with a person, and agree that your main mission as a pair, is to find ways to cheat and steal, and expect that you can trust each other. They will soon destroy each other. Just wait and see. That is the way of the world. That is the formula in life.

Anyway, from now on, we will show you facts and figures. We will tell you what they did and how they did it.

At this stage, there are some things we cannot share with you, due to legal reasons. And the several people who are behind this blog will one day reveal themselves. They have nothing to hide. They just feel bad enough that they were conned and that they have lost time, money, and opportunity.

We need to fight this on several fronts. The strong must fight to help the weak. The courageous must join this fight to help the fearful. The victim must speak up to spare others from falling in the same trap. And the nationalistic Romanian must help to rid this country of such people who destroy Romania’s reputation and drive people away from the global marketplace. People talk, and you do not want them to say bad things about Romanian business people. But it only takes a few people to tarnish the reputation of the majority. Osama Bin Ladin caused normal people to start spitting on Muslims in the street. Many people have an opinion about corruption in Russia and Asia. Can a country afford such bad publicity and such bad behavior?

Even if you are not affected, is it not your duty to join the fight? Or do you only join fights that touch you directly? If that is the case, you become an ungrateful person. Because many before you have died to help make your world safer or better or cleaner. Let’s all do our little bit.

But just sitting back and leaving it to a few people to spend so much of their time blogging, and so much of their money fighting this battle against these two men, is not how a society is supposed to work.

We could just close this blog and go and do our work. We have learned our lesson. These two thieves cannot con us again. So we are in the clear. We have made it through the fire. We can move on and leave you all behind. But we are doing this because it is the right thing to do. Alin and Cristian are doing what suits them. We are doing what suits others. It does not suit us personally to waste so much energy on this. Any money we obtain via a legal battle will be useless because we would have spent so much on legal and administrative fees, not to mention the time and energy. But it is our duty.

Here is the amazing thing: a man can kill seven people, eat most of them, and place the rest in his freezer and the bones in his back yard, yet his neighbor or even his wife, will say that they had no idea.

If you are cordial friends with Alin and Cristain, you are like that neighbor. You just cannot believe it, and you do not believe it, and you hope that there is a perfectly good explanation, and you hope that this will pass and that this blog is from a crazy person. That is amazing. In the end, you will say, I still don’t believe it. But they will be in prison and you will still wonder why and how they managed to con you. Crime and criminals are fascinating.

Good day to you, and chat soon, and please write to us if you need to stay in touch or if you would like to share your thoughts. You can do so confidentially and privately here (no comment is posted without us first screening it), or you can send a private email with information and questions to TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk

No doubt Alin and Crisi will ask their friends to be in touch with us, and so you will understand why, when you do contact us, we cannot become great friends with you. We have to remain on guard and we cannot just give out confidential information to anyone who writes. But so far we have formed great bonds with people who have joined this fight, and it feel good and right.

Thank you.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

Dear reader

Indeed, the previous blogs were emotional. They were a reaction to the underhanded and unethical behavior by Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai. The blogs were trying to save other people from becoming victims, because it really hurts when we are conned.

It is humiliating and shameful. Often, executives feel embarrassed that it could happen to them. That is how Bernard Madoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff became so bad. He kept lying to people and finally took Billions of dollars from them. Most of them did not dare speak up, because they did not want their name to become mud. How can rich, successful, intelligent people be conned by Mr Madoff? So they said nothing. And by saying nothing, he kept doing what he did, because no one wanted to be the first to speak up.

I think I am the first to speak up about Alin and Cristian, and as such, my blog might sound like one voice of an angry customer. And we all know how troublesome one angry customer can be. We can all empathise with a business that has to tolerate an angry customer. And so, in due course, Alin and Cristian will tell you that this blog is by some crazy person who is acting like a child. And in due course, their slick sales tactics will lull you into a false sense of security as you begin to feel sorry for them that someone like me is giving them this type of distraction.

So the time has come now to move away from the emotion and start to state the facts. As a global citizen, I am doing my duty to help others so that they are not conned and hurt. If you do not care about this blog, then by all means, go and do whatever you like. Do not fight with me. Some people seem to be angry at me. Why do such people feel that they can judge me and my story when they do not know the facts? I am blogging here so that we can all learn to speak-up when con-artists strike. Otherwise we become part of the problem.

Sure, I have not fully exposed my name. Partly because I am speaking for a range of people who have joined this fight. This blog is not about me or my ego or my bruises or my losses. It is about two men who are unethical and downright thieves. They cheat people and they lie to the government and they wake up every morning with a new lie. The only way that they are going to stop, is by being stopped. I have no hope whatsoever that they will go out to lunch and discuss their options in terms of being good corporate citizens. I have no doubt that they will keep defrauding people and cleverly escaping via legal loopholes, until they hit a brick wall. I have seen good men go down hill like this. Their life just gets worse. Instead of thinking about justice and honour, they start thinking about ways to cover-up their mess. In the process, they will create more mess, by bribing people, lying some more, and becoming entangled in such a web of deceit that they either baffle the authorities to such a degree that they get away with it, or they are arrested. At this point, they will say ‘sorry’, but that means that they were sorry that they were caught, and not at all sorry for their bad illegal behavior.

If they are telling you that I am just one upset customer, then they are wrong. This blog represents a range of people whose businesses have been badly impacted. It is bad enough that we have all had to suffer a bad economic year, without being cheated along the way. We all are trying hard to save money, and now by the actions of these two men, we have lost money, lost time, lost opportunity, lost face, lost faith, lost confidence, and lost hope in the human spirit. We are not complaining that we ordered a meal at a restaurant that was cold. Or that we do not like the colour of the web site that someone designed. We are saying something completely different: Someone set up Adevox and bid on our job. They took the money, lied, and then one day, they shut down Adevox. No trace if it. No emails would work. No one would respond. They just vanished. What is this called? It’s like ordering your new car at a car yard, paying for it, and being told that it will be delivered next week. And when you go to pick it up, the whole building is empty. The phones do not work. The emails do not work. The website is taken down. Vanished. Is this a Hollywood Mafia style of set up or what? That is what this blog is about. We are not arguing about errors or bad craftsmanship. These are of course issues, but not worth arguing about now. How can we argue about a car being the wrong colour, when there is no car to speak of.

You see, we have been conned and we feel bad about it because we were stupid. We paid up front. Why did we do this? We paid because we wanted Twenty and Adevox to prosper. We felt that they were a small business, just like us, and that we were extending our hand of friendship to them. We needed them to help us with our websites and our projects, and we were nice and decent and honest and honourable to give them the money up front, knowing that it was a risk, but we treated them with respect and with a sense of honour, to cheer them along in the hope that they can prosper. We treated them like we desire to be treated.

We were stupid to pay up-front for a job that was not yet ready. We could have gone on Elance.com or RentaCoder.com or Guru or a range of other places, and hired any one of 40,000 programmers and coders and designers who would have been glad to work at minimal wage and under our strict risk-free terms. One of our group is from Australia. He paid nearly US$4000 for a site that was never finished, was filled with errors, that does not work, that has not yet been useful, that has halted his business, that has caused many real problems in terms of credibility with his affiliates (long and hard story). US$4000 is a lot of money to throw away, and to drag a deadline over seven months and then end up with nothing. Zip. Zero. The site is useless and is not used. And to this day, they have not given the client his passwords. His paypal account is mathematically wrong. Dozens of pages are not yet up. Hundreds of files are not up. The database is not working etc. It is rubbish, with a glossy front that just looks nice because it has some nice photos.

Here is another example of the scam. The brief asked for a blog. Any child at the age of ten can go to WordPress or Blogger and create a blog in ten second. But the brief was for a professional blog on his own site that does not rely on a third party, and for very good reasons. He paid good money, knowing that US$4000 in Romania is a lot of money, and what did he get? A WordPress page! Is that an insult or what? The media players are free Yahoo players that are problematic. The list of issues extends to 50 pages (which were submitted to his lawyer etc), and I am not going to outline them here, but certainly, one day soon, I will ask all the victims to upload their story. But for now, they want some privacy until they fix their issues.

One victim is a games company involved with Wrestling. Cristian and Alin told their team to bid on the job, knowing 100% that they could not deliver on that brief. They did not care about any brief. They instructed their staff to bid on any job, no matter what. Alin was building his new house and he needed the cash, so he said that any client will do. Just go and do whatever it takes to win business. This was easy cash! What a great way to make money. Go now on Elance and bid on every job. Any job. All jobs. Ask for a deposit and just disappear. Wow. Good money.

They have a history of bankruptcy. See the attached image from the Romanian Government site that lists the bankruptcy of three of their companies. These show over US$300,000 owing!

Zooming in on the text showing debts owed

Yet they are still operating because they know how to cheat the system. But the system will catch up with them because we have engaged lawyers who know how to handle these matters legally.

These two men also owe many thousands of Euros to their staff. So they cheat clients, and they cheat their staff. What kind of human would you have to be to abuse people like this? Poor staff work for a simple salary just to live a simple life, pay the rent, buy some food, and keep their dignity. And they were used as slaves to go get involved in a scam that hurt people, while they were hurting themselves. They could not just walk out. They could see that things were not right, but they lived in hope, thinking that maybe they will not be cheated. They had no choice. Where could they go? So they stayed as long as they could until they hit a brick wall. It seems that people do not take action until they hit a brick wall.

Every day we see stories like this in the news, like the girl who won millions of dollars and after a few years, had lost every cent. She could not stop until she was stopped by a nil balance in the bank. Or the man who abuses his daughter or a stranger and uses them as sex slaves for ten or twenty years until they are caught. If they are not caught, they never stop. Like the executive who starts sealing from the company to support a gambling habit, and never knows when to stop until the police take him away.

And so with every transaction, it seems that Alin and Cristian will take great intellectual delight in scheming up intellectually dishonest ways to make money or steal money. Of course they could use their clever brains to think of ethical and honest ways, but that is not how they are wired. Their brain is programmed to think of evil ways. So if they are transacting with PayPal, they will dream of ways to cheat the system or the tax or the client or their family and each other. Crooks like these two, seem like a strong pair. For now they are great mates. They have common enemies. But wait a little while longer and they will turn on each other because they would have lied to each other. A liar is a liar. How can you go into partnership with a person, and agree that your main mission as a pair, is to find ways to cheat and steal, and expect that you can trust each other. They will soon destroy each other. Just wait and see. That is the way of the world. That is the formula in life.

Anyway, from now on, we will show you facts and figures. We will tell you what they did and how they did it.

At this stage, there are some things we cannot share with you, due to legal reasons. And the several people who are behind this blog will one day reveal themselves. They have nothing to hide. They just feel bad enough that they were conned and that they have lost time, money, and opportunity.

We need to fight this on several fronts. The strong must fight to help the weak. The courageous must join this fight to help the fearful. The victim must speak up to spare others from falling in the same trap. And the nationalistic Romanian must help to rid this country of such people who destroy Romania’s reputation and drive people away from the global marketplace. People talk, and you do not want them to say bad things about Romanian business people. But it only takes a few people to tarnish the reputation of the majority. Osama Bin Ladin caused normal people to start spitting on Muslims in the street. Many people have an opinion about corruption in Russia and Asia. Can a country afford such bad publicity and such bad behavior?

Even if you are not affected, is it not your duty to join the fight? Or do you only join fights that touch you directly? If that is the case, you become an ungrateful person. Because many before you have died to help make your world safer or better or cleaner. Let’s all do our little bit.

But just sitting back and leaving it to a few people to spend so much of their time blogging, and so much of their money fighting this battle against these two men, is not how a society is supposed to work.

We could just close this blog and go and do our work. We have learned our lesson. These two thieves cannot con us again. So we are in the clear. We have made it through the fire. We can move on and leave you all behind. But we are doing this because it is the right thing to do. Alin and Cristian are doing what suits them. We are doing what suits others. It does not suit us personally to waste so much energy on this. Any money we obtain via a legal battle will be useless because we would have spent so much on legal and administrative fees, not to mention the time and energy. But it is our duty.

Here is the amazing thing: a man can kill seven people, eat most of them, and place the rest in his freezer and the bones in his back yard, yet his neighbor or even his wife, will say that they had no idea.

If you are cordial friends with Alin and Cristain, you are like that neighbor. You just cannot believe it, and you do not believe it, and you hope that there is a perfectly good explanation, and you hope that this will pass and that this blog is from a crazy person. That is amazing. In the end, you will say, I still don’t believe it. But they will be in prison and you will still wonder why and how they managed to con you. Crime and criminals are fascinating.

Good day to you, and chat soon, and please write to us if you need to stay in touch or if you would like to share your thoughts. You can do so confidentially and privately here (no comment is posted without us first screening it), or you can send a private email with information and questions to TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk

No doubt Alin and Crisi will ask their friends to be in touch with us, and so you will understand why, when you do contact us, we cannot become great friends with you. We have to remain on guard and we cannot just give out confidential information to anyone who writes. But so far we have formed great bonds with people who have joined this fight, and it feel good and right.

Thank you.

THIS SITE HAS A NEW HOME AT www.SpeakUpNow.biz

Dear reader

Indeed, the previous blogs were emotional. They were a reaction to the underhanded and unethical behavior by Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai. The blogs were trying to save other people from becoming victims, because it really hurts when we are conned.

It is humiliating and shameful. Often, executives feel embarrassed that it could happen to them. That is how Bernard Madoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff became so bad. He kept lying to people and finally took Billions of dollars from them. Most of them did not dare speak up, because they did not want their name to become mud. How can rich, successful, intelligent people be conned by Mr Madoff? So they said nothing. And by saying nothing, he kept doing what he did, because no one wanted to be the first to speak up.

I think I am the first to speak up about Alin and Cristian, and as such, my blog might sound like one voice of an angry customer. And we all know how troublesome one angry customer can be. We can all empathise with a business that has to tolerate an angry customer. And so, in due course, Alin and Cristian will tell you that this blog is by some crazy person who is acting like a child. And in due course, their slick sales tactics will lull you into a false sense of security as you begin to feel sorry for them that someone like me is giving them this type of distraction.

So the time has come now to move away from the emotion and start to state the facts. As a global citizen, I am doing my duty to help others so that they are not conned and hurt. If you do not care about this blog, then by all means, go and do whatever you like. Do not fight with me. Some people seem to be angry at me. Why do such people feel that they can judge me and my story when they do not know the facts? I am blogging here so that we can all learn to speak-up when con-artists strike. Otherwise we become part of the problem.

Sure, I have not fully exposed my name. Partly because I am speaking for a range of people who have joined this fight. This blog is not about me or my ego or my bruises or my losses. It is about two men who are unethical and downright thieves. They cheat people and they lie to the government and they wake up every morning with a new lie. The only way that they are going to stop, is by being stopped. I have no hope whatsoever that they will go out to lunch and discuss their options in terms of being good corporate citizens. I have no doubt that they will keep defrauding people and cleverly escaping via legal loopholes, until they hit a brick wall. I have seen good men go down hill like this. Their life just gets worse. Instead of thinking about justice and honour, they start thinking about ways to cover-up their mess. In the process, they will create more mess, by bribing people, lying some more, and becoming entangled in such a web of deceit that they either baffle the authorities to such a degree that they get away with it, or they are arrested. At this point, they will say ‘sorry’, but that means that they were sorry that they were caught, and not at all sorry for their bad illegal behavior.

If they are telling you that I am just one upset customer, then they are wrong. This blog represents a range of people whose businesses have been badly impacted. It is bad enough that we have all had to suffer a bad economic year, without being cheated along the way. We all are trying hard to save money, and now by the actions of these two men, we have lost money, lost time, lost opportunity, lost face, lost faith, lost confidence, and lost hope in the human spirit. We are not complaining that we ordered a meal at a restaurant that was cold. Or that we do not like the colour of the web site that someone designed. We are saying something completely different: Someone set up Adevox and bid on our job. They took the money, lied, and then one day, they shut down Adevox. No trace if it. No emails would work. No one would respond. They just vanished. What is this called? It’s like ordering your new car at a car yard, paying for it, and being told that it will be delivered next week. And when you go to pick it up, the whole building is empty. The phones do not work. The emails do not work. The website is taken down. Vanished. Is this a Hollywood Mafia style of set up or what? That is what this blog is about. We are not arguing about errors or bad craftsmanship. These are of course issues, but not worth arguing about now. How can we argue about a car being the wrong colour, when there is no car to speak of.

You see, we have been conned and we feel bad about it because we were stupid. We paid up front. Why did we do this? We paid because we wanted Twenty and Adevox to prosper. We felt that they were a small business, just like us, and that we were extending our hand of friendship to them. We needed them to help us with our websites and our projects, and we were nice and decent and honest and honourable to give them the money up front, knowing that it was a risk, but we treated them with respect and with a sense of honour, to cheer them along in the hope that they can prosper. We treated them like we desire to be treated.

We were stupid to pay up-front for a job that was not yet ready. We could have gone on Elance.com or RentaCoder.com or Guru or a range of other places, and hired any one of 40,000 programmers and coders and designers who would have been glad to work at minimal wage and under our strict risk-free terms. One of our group is from Australia. He paid nearly US$4000 for a site that was never finished, was filled with errors, that does not work, that has not yet been useful, that has halted his business, that has caused many real problems in terms of credibility with his affiliates (long and hard story). US$4000 is a lot of money to throw away, and to drag a deadline over seven months and then end up with nothing. Zip. Zero. The site is useless and is not used. And to this day, they have not given the client his passwords. His paypal account is mathematically wrong. Dozens of pages are not yet up. Hundreds of files are not up. The database is not working etc. It is rubbish, with a glossy front that just looks nice because it has some nice photos.

Here is another example of the scam. The brief asked for a blog. Any child at the age of ten can go to WordPress or Blogger and create a blog in ten second. But the brief was for a professional blog on his own site that does not rely on a third party, and for very good reasons. He paid good money, knowing that US$4000 in Romania is a lot of money, and what did he get? A WordPress page! Is that an insult or what? The media players are free Yahoo players that are problematic. The list of issues extends to 50 pages (which were submitted to his lawyer etc), and I am not going to outline them here, but certainly, one day soon, I will ask all the victims to upload their story. But for now, they want some privacy until they fix their issues.

One victim is a games company involved with Wrestling. Cristian and Alin told their team to bid on the job, knowing 100% that they could not deliver on that brief. They did not care about any brief. They instructed their staff to bid on any job, no matter what. Alin was building his new house and he needed the cash, so he said that any client will do. Just go and do whatever it takes to win business. This was easy cash! What a great way to make money. Go now on Elance and bid on every job. Any job. All jobs. Ask for a deposit and just disappear. Wow. Good money.

They have a history of bankruptcy. See the attached image from the Romanian Government site that lists the bankruptcy of three of their companies. These show over US$300,000 owing!

Zooming in on the text showing debts owed

Yet they are still operating because they know how to cheat the system. But the system will catch up with them because we have engaged lawyers who know how to handle these matters legally.

These two men also owe many thousands of Euros to their staff. So they cheat clients, and they cheat their staff. What kind of human would you have to be to abuse people like this? Poor staff work for a simple salary just to live a simple life, pay the rent, buy some food, and keep their dignity. And they were used as slaves to go get involved in a scam that hurt people, while they were hurting themselves. They could not just walk out. They could see that things were not right, but they lived in hope, thinking that maybe they will not be cheated. They had no choice. Where could they go? So they stayed as long as they could until they hit a brick wall. It seems that people do not take action until they hit a brick wall.

Every day we see stories like this in the news, like the girl who won millions of dollars and after a few years, had lost every cent. She could not stop until she was stopped by a nil balance in the bank. Or the man who abuses his daughter or a stranger and uses them as sex slaves for ten or twenty years until they are caught. If they are not caught, they never stop. Like the executive who starts sealing from the company to support a gambling habit, and never knows when to stop until the police take him away.

And so with every transaction, it seems that Alin and Cristian will take great intellectual delight in scheming up intellectually dishonest ways to make money or steal money. Of course they could use their clever brains to think of ethical and honest ways, but that is not how they are wired. Their brain is programmed to think of evil ways. So if they are transacting with PayPal, they will dream of ways to cheat the system or the tax or the client or their family and each other. Crooks like these two, seem like a strong pair. For now they are great mates. They have common enemies. But wait a little while longer and they will turn on each other because they would have lied to each other. A liar is a liar. How can you go into partnership with a person, and agree that your main mission as a pair, is to find ways to cheat and steal, and expect that you can trust each other. They will soon destroy each other. Just wait and see. That is the way of the world. That is the formula in life.

Anyway, from now on, we will show you facts and figures. We will tell you what they did and how they did it.

At this stage, there are some things we cannot share with you, due to legal reasons. And the several people who are behind this blog will one day reveal themselves. They have nothing to hide. They just feel bad enough that they were conned and that they have lost time, money, and opportunity.

We need to fight this on several fronts. The strong must fight to help the weak. The courageous must join this fight to help the fearful. The victim must speak up to spare others from falling in the same trap. And the nationalistic Romanian must help to rid this country of such people who destroy Romania’s reputation and drive people away from the global marketplace. People talk, and you do not want them to say bad things about Romanian business people. But it only takes a few people to tarnish the reputation of the majority. Osama Bin Ladin caused normal people to start spitting on Muslims in the street. Many people have an opinion about corruption in Russia and Asia. Can a country afford such bad publicity and such bad behavior?

Even if you are not affected, is it not your duty to join the fight? Or do you only join fights that touch you directly? If that is the case, you become an ungrateful person. Because many before you have died to help make your world safer or better or cleaner. Let’s all do our little bit.

But just sitting back and leaving it to a few people to spend so much of their time blogging, and so much of their money fighting this battle against these two men, is not how a society is supposed to work.

We could just close this blog and go and do our work. We have learned our lesson. These two thieves cannot con us again. So we are in the clear. We have made it through the fire. We can move on and leave you all behind. But we are doing this because it is the right thing to do. Alin and Cristian are doing what suits them. We are doing what suits others. It does not suit us personally to waste so much energy on this. Any money we obtain via a legal battle will be useless because we would have spent so much on legal and administrative fees, not to mention the time and energy. But it is our duty.

Here is the amazing thing: a man can kill seven people, eat most of them, and place the rest in his freezer and the bones in his back yard, yet his neighbor or even his wife, will say that they had no idea.

If you are cordial friends with Alin and Cristain, you are like that neighbor. You just cannot believe it, and you do not believe it, and you hope that there is a perfectly good explanation, and you hope that this will pass and that this blog is from a crazy person. That is amazing. In the end, you will say, I still don’t believe it. But they will be in prison and you will still wonder why and how they managed to con you. Crime and criminals are fascinating.

Good day to you, and chat soon, and please write to us if you need to stay in touch or if you would like to share your thoughts. You can do so confidentially and privately here (no comment is posted without us first screening it), or you can send a private email with information and questions to TwentyScam@Hotmail.co.uk

No doubt Alin and Crisi will ask their friends to be in touch with us, and so you will understand why, when you do contact us, we cannot become great friends with you. We have to remain on guard and we cannot just give out confidential information to anyone who writes. But so far we have formed great bonds with people who have joined this fight, and it feel good and right.

Thank you.

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

After declaring bankruptcy (which in itself could be another lie) the directors of www.Twenty.ro go to their Twitter site http://twitter.com/twentyro and say:

‘The most important thing in a business is the client’s trust.’

Con men speaking about trust! What a laugh.

And they post this on the web site www.twenty.ro

Can you believe this? They know that the only way to con people, which is what they have done, is to gain their trust. Alin Chiriac and Cristian Mihai know that they need your trust before they can defraud you and take your money and never pay back and never do the work, and never pay staff, and then run away stealing your money.

What they have done is no different from throwing a brick in your window, climbing into your home at night, taking your wallet, and running! They are thieves. Full stop. They are cyber thieves who set up a business to win people’s trust and then take the money and run. This is CRIMINAL! And they have the bloody audacity and cheek and downright temerity and rudeness and unethical front to have the time to ruin businesses, distress clients, sack staff, have affairs, and go to the government and declare bankruptcy, and they still have the bloody time to Twitter a statement about trust! Well you see, the reason they have time is that they are trying to say, ‘Hey dear friends, come on, you can trust us.’  It is like bad leaders who always surround themselves with posters about leadership. These people are 1000% Platinum Grade, Diamond Level con artists. And they con people. And they talk about trust.

Never trust anyone who tells you to trust them like this, especially when they are right in the middle of the poo! They are in the epicentre of their scam! They are supposed to be filing for bankruptcy and they still have an active corporate site? More scams more lies more cheating more of everything. And they wonder why people are blogging about them. They tried to have this blog stopped, but no luck. Truth will out!

But the reason they have time is that they are demented and in need of psychotherapy. They are putting that Twit there not for you, but for us victims. That is their snub. That is their way of laughing at us because they know that we are monitoring their every move, and this is their way of communicating with us in a sinister way to make us mad. Thank you Alin and Crisi. We hear you. You delight us. We are more mad than ever, and this is great fuel to expose you and your affairs and your cheating and your infidelity and your adultery and your financial irregularities and your tax cheating and your staff abuse…

You have succeeded. We are angry. But thank you! Because by your stupidity and immaturity, you have made us all even stronger. We have been doing more by working harder to expose you for what you are. And you know what you are. No word would be good enough to write down here. And any word close enough to describe the low-life snakes that you are, would be too rude to be allowed to be publish on the net. You brainless twits!

Notice: The new home for the Mihai/Chiriac Saga is www.SpeakUpNow.biz

What a small world. Look at what’s being going around. Emails informing the world. Mind you, people who lie, cannot be trusted. Twenty’s director says that his company has filed for bankruptcy, but can you believe him? Maybe they have not filed for bankruptcy. Who knows? No doubt our informer will leak some papers to us. What a world of leaks. Data everywhere. Is nothing private anymore?

So sad to see two men make so many mistakes, and yet here is another. They think that bankruptcy will clear the decks. Their career has ended. Now they have to run around hiding everything. They will have to trust people. But who can they trust? Who will trust them? Anyone who helps them stands to get caught in the net and become harmed by this mess. I wonder who they are blaming? This is the most interesting thing about crooks: they blame others. Who could they possibly blame for these bad decisions? Here’s what they should be thinking: ‘I tried to rob people and lie and cheat and con innocent clients and staff in the hope of making more money. But that was a bad decision. I was silly.’ But their head will be filled with words like THEY HE SHE THEM NOT ME. Here is the letter that went out to 400 emails of people who had somehow come into contact with their company…

Dear Sir/Madam

Draga Doamna/Stimate Domn

We understand that you had some contact with Twenty Advertising agency (also Overbridge and Adevox, amongst other names) operated by Cristian Mihai and Alin Chiriac.

Din cate am inteles ati avut de-a face intr-un fel sau altul cu agentia Twenty Advertising (Overbridge, Adevox sau Twenty Mark), ai caror administratori sunt Cristian Mihai si Alin Chiriac.

Please note that this company has filed for bankruptcy. This was brought about when these two men tried to cheat a range of clients by starting a division called Adevox. They took money (many thousands of dollars) and then, one day, they shut down the division without telling anyone, hoping to take the money and run.

Va rugam sa aveti in vedere faptul ca aceasta companie este in faliment. Acest lucru s-a intamplat in momentul in care acesti doi oameni au inselat clienti prin divizia lor Adveox. Acestia au luat banii clientilor (mii de dolari) si apoi au inchis divizia Adevox dintr-odata, spreand ca nimeni nu ii va putea opri.

Sadly, their disgruntled sacked staff (many of whom were never paid and are still owed thousands of euros) along with angry clients, applied pressure to expose this scandalous fraudulent conduct by Mihai and Chiriac.

Din aceste motive au fost nevoiti sa isi concedieze angajatii (majoritatea neprimind ultimele salarii), acestia, alaturi de clientii fraieriti doresc sa faca aceasta inselatorie condusa de Alin si Mihai publica.

Faced with the prospect of having to pay up, they went into what they think is the clever underhanded thing to do, and file for bankruptcy, as if this protects them in some way. Crooks and thieves will remain crooks for the rest of their lives. Rather than face up to the responsibilities and pay back the money they stole, they decided to file for bankruptcy. This is a typical next-step for unethical fruadulent operators who have no shame.

Fiind pusi in fata platilor pe care trebuie sa le faca, au facut lucrul cel mai usor, si anume au bagat compania in faliment, ca si cum acest lucru i-ar proteja intr-un fel. Hotii vor ramane hoti toata viata. In loc sa raspunda pentru actiunile lor si sa dea inapoi banii pe care ii datoreaza, au ales calea falimentului. Aceasta e cea mai usoara metoda de a scapa.

This email is a service to you in case you are about to pay them any money. Be warned that you should consider this carefully because many others have lost a lot of money to these thieves.

Speram ca acest email sa va ajute in cazul in care mai doriti sa colaborati cu ei. Va rugam sa analizati putin situatia inainte de a mai colabora cu ei, pentru ca foarte multi oameni au fost inselati.

You can learn more about these two men at a range of blogs, including one WordPress. Just Google the name ‘Alin Chiriac fraud’ and you will see many. Or visit http://twentyscam.wordpress.com/

Daca doriti puteti sa aflati mai multe despre aceste fapte puteti citi pe acest blog http://twentyscam.wordpress.com/, sau de ce nu, faceti o cautare pe Google dupa “Alin Chiriac Fraud”.

If you have any information about this company and these men, and how they have stashed funds in various account to defraud their own Romanian taxation laws, please let us know so that we can continue to build a file about these two con artists.

Daca avet iinformatii despre aceasta companie sau despre acesti 2 oameni, va rugam sa ne ajutati sa ii demascam si sa ii prindem, pentru ca au inselat inclusiv statul roman.

You were contacted as a service to protect you. If you wish to never receive such an email again, please respond with the word REMOVE in the subject line. Thank you

Ati fost contactat pentru a fi protejati. Daca doriti sa nu mai primiti informatii despre aceasta situatie, raspundeti la acest email cu cuvantul “REMOVE” in tilul emailului. Va multumim mult!

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