So, my German clients (husband and wife) fly over to the States for another round of depositions in a lengthy personal injury lawsuit against, in addition to other parties, a major manufacturer of motorcycles here in the U.S.

My European colleague, out-of-state co-counsel, and I all meet with them the evening before the deposition, to soothe any nervous feelings and explain how the deposition will take place: It will be video-taped, the other side’s attorneys will be asking you questions, you’re under oath, etc.etc.

So we all meet in my firm’s conference room, and I look over at my client – and notice that he’s sporting a T-shirt, hat, AND belt buckle with a certain motorcycle logo ALL OVER IT. The same logo of the very company we are currently SUING for large sums of money for his near-death accident and current disability.

I look at him and say (in German, so there’s no misunderstanding here) “You really shouldn’t wear that tomorrow.”
Client (looking back at me like I’m the crazy one): “What? Really? But all of my T-shirts are (defendant’s logo) T-shirts. I collect them! I really shouldn’t wear this?”
Me: “Not tomorrow. Wear a sweater.”

Other attorney friends of mine have always talked about that “one defendant who showed up in court for his DUI hearing wearing a Jack Daniels T-shirt” and the “dude who appeared before the judge wearing a shirt with marijuana leaves printed all over it” (yep, you guessed it. He was there on a possession charge) I always thought that was just hyperbole from the courthouse kids, playing up all their crazy criminal cases to make us business attorneys jealous. ohh well. So much for that thought.

Well, it looks like the FLDS has lost another motion, although the judge did say he was taking it under advisement.

There was a hearing today in Kingman, AZ on the motion to depose Sam Brower and Dan Fischer by Mike Piccarreta.  While Judge Conn did not rule, he did state from the bench his initial impression was that both individuals had answered all the relevant questions.

It doesn’t appear to me that Pic will be taking any depositions…

Does that mean that he doesn’t get to harass the witnesses any more?

Shame…

Plasma enhanced chemical vapor deposition is a process used for the deposition of thin films of materials.  Plasma is used to enhance the chemical reaction processes and thus, PECVD can typically be done at lower temperatures than conventional CVD.

PECVD systems include a power supply, match generator, electrodes, and vacuum system to create an RF signal (often at 13.6 MHz).

Silicon oxide is usually deposited using silane, SiH4, and nitrous oxide, N2O.  Nitride is typically deposited using silane and ammonia, NH3.

This is a deposition of a witness by Joe Jamail in an asbestos case. Saddle up and ride!

Oracle and SAP are at war.  They have exchanged bayonet charges in discovery for two years in a case where Oracle has accused SAP (TomorrowNow) of “systematic and pervasive illegal downloading of Oracle software over approximately six years.”  Oracle United States v. Sap Ag, 2009 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 91432 (N.D. Cal. Sept. 17, 2009).  Production has been over 12 terabytes with 140 custodians and document review for each custodian has cost $100,000.   Oracle, 6-7.

Somewhere in the thirteen discovery conferences, the Court instructed the parties to follow the proportionality requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 26(b)(2)(c), to beware of the expense of the proposed discovery outweighing its benefit.  Oracle, 7-8.  Needless to say, knowing the damages at issues when they could equal the budget of a large city would be important to know early in discovery. 

The Plaintiff took the position for two years that their lost profits damages were based on “lost support revenue for Oracle software application products from Plaintiffs’ 358 former customers that had received support from Plaintiffs, but switched to receiving support for Oracle products from TomorrowNow.”  Oracle, 8.  

And that is how discovery played out to the tune of millions of dollars for both parties for two years. 

Iceberg, Dead Ahead

The Plaintiffs switched damages arguments during the depositions of their executives in April and May of 2009.  Oracle, 38.  The Plaintiffs at that time claimed the “greater economic harm came from lost licensing revenue and price reductions to customers that never left Oracle for TomorrowNow.”  Oracle, 38.  The Plaintiffs referred to lost customers as “only the tip of the iceberg” to their damages, which were not disclosed for two years to the Defendants and the Court. Oracle, 38-39.

To Kill a Titan: Court Orders and Supplemental Disclosures

The Defendants fought a Hegemonic war to exclude the additional damages evidence for violating a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 16(f) discovery order and failure to supplement discovery under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(e)(1).  Moreover, a failure under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 26(e)(1) subjects the offending party to mandatory exclusion of that information under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 37(c)(1).  Oracle, 12-15.

The Court held the Plaintiffs had a duty to disclose the “tip of the iceberg” damages known to their executives, long before their depositions two years after millions of dollars had been spent on discovery.  Oracle, 48. The Defendants’ economic damages expert witness stated it would take an additional year to analyze the new damages claims and cost $5 million ($4.4 million had already been spent and it was estimated $4 million more through trial).  Oracle, 48-49. There was no excuse for not disclosing basic damage claims in discovery. 

The Court granted the Defendants’ exclusion motion, precluding the Plaintiffs from arguing any additional damage theories other then the original damages theory. Oracle, 58-59.  Don’t feel too bad for the Plaintiff, because this evidence might be over a billion dollars.  Oracle, 59.

Bow Tie Lessons: The Hammer will Fall

The Plaintiffs were precluded from arguing additional damages theories because they did not supplement their initial and court ordered discovery.  Courts are truly laying down the law on Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rules 26(a) and 26(e)(1) with the hammer of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 37(c)(1).

The explosive interview article in The American Conservative Magazine sparked a vehement denial of Sibel Edmonds’s account by Congresswoman Schakowsky’s office concerning Turkish agents attempts to blackmail the Congresswoman with a lesbian affair. The background of the episode can found at The Brad Blog . Here follows Sibel’s formal response and after, Rep. Schakowsky’s office response to The Brad Blog.

Inviting Ms. Schakowsky to Join…….

Dear Congresswoman Schakowsky:

It is an age-old tactic, when one cannot refute statements with facts, to attempt to discredit the witness. Rather than exchanging accusations, let me just go on record with facts and detailed citations.

When I became aware of incriminating evidence against high-level U.S. officials—elected and appointed—I filed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and fought for five years in court. I bore tremendous cost, financially and emotionally, to make this data public. Here is the court case identification: C.A. No. 1:02CV01294 (ESH).

Few citizens have gone this far in a FOIA case to make covered-up information available to the public. No one gains financially from fighting this kind of thing in court, and I am no exception. You have called me a fantasist, but would a fabricator pay as dearly as I did to have her claims investigated?

I fought another court case to expose government criminality through key witnesses and documents. As in the FOIA case, I bore tremendous costs and was again blocked by the invocation of the State Secrets Privilege and National Security. The court case identification is Civ.No.1:02CV01448(JR)).

No other citizen has twice had the State Secrets Privilege invoked. But why would the government, with the support of congressional representatives, go to such lengths to quash, gag, and classify the files and operations in question if they were “fantasy, lies, and nonexistent” as you say?

I complied with the whistleblowing rule and took my case to the Office of the Inspector General and provided all of the information they allowed me to. They interviewed dozens of witnesses and reviewed hundreds of pages of documents in their investigation of my credibility and the validity of my case. Here is the link to their confirmation that I and my case have merit: DOJ-IG Report. Here is the redacted report that shows how our government censored more than 90% of this report to the public: Redacted DOJ-IG Report. Very few national security whistleblowers have been granted this level of validation and vindication. The Justice Department’s own Office of the Inspector General disagrees with your characterization of me and my case.

Several senior members of Congress—from both sides of the aisle–have also investigated and publicly confirmed my credibility and the grave nature of my disclosures. This is what Senator Leahy had to say: Leahy Statement. This is what Congresswoman Maloney said: Rep. Maloney Statement. Here are the assessments of Senator Lautenberg–Sen. Lautenberg Statement—and Senator Grassley–Sen. Grassley Statement. By attacking my credibility, you are also attacking your colleagues, including many on your side of the aisle. Are you accusing these senators and representatives of being fantasists too?

You have been described as a “true blue” civil libertarian, so it will surely interest you to know that the ACLU has declared me “the most gagged” person in the history of this great nation. Are you also attacking the ACLU and calling their characterization of this case a fantasy?

I have testified under oath, and my public biography will provide you with information about my educational background, financial background, and family life. I am fully aware of the consequences of perjury, and as you can see, I would have a lot to lose were that the case. I am sure you are familiar with my sworn testimony, but you can review it here.

I’ve done more than my share through the courts, IG offices, Congress, and media. I don’t have your power. You sit on the House Intelligence Committee, and you are one of the members of the majority party in Congress.

Here is what you can do: Call for an investigation and a hearing before your committee on this long covered-up case. Subpoena the files and call the witnesses. Bring in retired Special Agent Gilbert Graham and have him testify on the official report and complaint he filed with the DOJ inspector general in 2002 regarding the FBI counterespionage investigations involving Turkey and Israel in which targeted US representatives were illegally wiretapped. This is not fiction. Here is the official and signed public version: SA Gilbert Graham Report.

Also bring in former FBI Counterintelligence Operations Manager & Espionage Investigator John M. Cole and have him testify under oath regarding espionage cases involving State Department officials, Pentagon officials, and Congressional members. Here is a preview of some of the information disclosed and confirmed by Agent Cole: Interview and Radio Interview.

Also bring in the sworn testimonies of current FBI special agents in the Chicago and DC field offices who dutifully and patriotically led the counterintelligence operations on Turkey and corrupt US officials, only to see their investigations blocked and covered-up. Their names are public.

Order the Justice Department to release the two main Counterintelligence Operations Files on Turkey and “US persons of interest”—one from FBI Chicago Field Office-1996-2002, the other from FBI DC Field Office-1996-2001. These will help bring out the facts regarding your story too. I have documentation supporting the existence of these files.

Recall that I did not accuse you of any criminal or espionage-related activity.

The last time I saw a similar attack on my credibility was when Dennis Hastert issued a non-denial denial to information contained in a previous magazine article. He later gave up his seat, registered himself (under FARA) as an agent for the government of Turkey, and went on to collect $35,000 per month as a foreign agent. I certainly hope you are not planning to follow his footsteps by giving up your seat and officially registering with a foreign government. It would be far better if you used your position to bring out the facts. I will be delighted to assist you.

Sibel Edmonds

Schakowsky Response:

It is extraordinary how quickly Ms. Edmonds’ story has evolved in just two short months. What’s more is that this blog [ed note: We checked for clarity, and he's specifically referring to The BRAD BLOG as a whole. See our response below.] entirely ignores the fact that the allegations she made about Congresswoman Schakowsky have been shown to be untrue on their face.

In Ms. Edmonds’ sworn deposition on August 8, 2009 in Washington, DC, she states as a fact, under oath that the imagined tryst occurred between the fictional spy and Congresswoman Schakowsky “in her townhouse actually in this area.”

The rest you can read at The Brad Blog
It seems her office is not only dismissing Sibel Edmonds’s claims and accounts she has fought for so long in being able to tell what she ran into while working at the F.B.I. due to government interference but the response also seems to attempt to impugn The Brad Blog which seems unfortunate. The Brad Blog has been completely fair in all of this. But if you read the account, The Brad Blog responded. Also, Sibel emailed The Brad Blog in response to this which can also be seen at The Brad Blog whereby she says, “I am not going to engage in this silly back and forth game. They have my letter. It is very clear. Not only me, but the majority of the Americans would like to see her action in congress.”. And so it seems, her office will not be any help in leading to any investigations of any of the serious issues at hand.

Jeffrey Epstein Will Not Talk About His Manhood. Trust us when we say this is the best video you’re going to see all day. Pervy money manager Jeffrey Epstein, who was released from a Florida prison in July after serving a sentence for soliciting underage girls, appeared at a deposition on Sept. 2. (He’s being sued by a 15-year-old girl who claims she was “enticed” to visit Epstein at his home when she was told she’d receive $200 for giving him a massage.) The deposition lasted less than two minutes before Epstein walked out. Why? It seems starting things out with the question, “Is it true that you have an egg-shaped penis?” didn’t get the proceedings off to a very friendly start. (Go figure.) Click  for the video

Aujourd’hui, a eu lieu le procès pour Mambo, de Aurélie.L âgée de 22 ans, au tribunal correctionnel de Perpignan. Cette jeune fille accusée d’avoir aspergé le chien dans l’intention d’y mettre ensuite le feu, a été condamnée à 1 an de prison dont six mois fermes et 800 euros d’amende versés aux associations de défense animale.

Cette petite brune, un peu ronde de 1m50 confirme sa déposition d’une voix fluette. Elle se défend en disant : “Je ne savais pas, je ne pensais pas qu’il ferait ça!” En désignant son compagnon âgé de 17 ans. Quand le juge lui a demandé si elle regrettait ses actes, elle a gardée le silence… .

Mambo a d’ailleurs lui aussi pu assister au procès de l’un de ses tortionnaires ! C’est un miracle que ce pauvre chien ne craint pas d’aller vers les humains après ce que ces barbares lui ont fait subir !

By Brad Friedman

September 07, 2009 “Huffington Post” — It has now been over a week since the video tape and transcript from the remarkable 8/8/09 deposition of former FBI translator-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds was publicly released. Previously, the Bush Administration invoked the so-called “state secrets privilege” in order to gag Edmonds, in attempting to keep such information from becoming public.

The under-oath, detailed allegations include bribery, blackmail, espionage and infiltration of the U.S. government of, and by current and former members of the U.S. Congress, high-ranking State and Defense Department officials and agents of the government of Turkey. The broad criminal conspiracy is said to have resulted in, among other things, the sale of nuclear weapons technology to black market interests including Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Libya and others.

Even as many of these allegations had been previously corroborated to varying extents, by a number of official government reports, documents and independent media outlets (largely overseas), not a single major mainstream media outlet in the U.S. has picked up on Edmonds’ startling claims since her deposition has been made fully available.

Granted, last week was a busy news week, with the death of Ted Kennedy, the release of the CIA Inspector General’s report on torture, and the announcement that Michael Jackson’s death was ruled a homicide. And, it’s true, a 4-hour deposition and/or 241-page transcript [PDF] is a lot of material to review, particularly given the wide scope of the charges being made here. Still, given the serious national security issues at stake, said to have the been among the most important matters of the past 8 years, one would think someone in the corporate MSM might have taken the time to go through the material, and report on it. Particularly as Edmonds’ claims have previously been found “credible” “serious” and “warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review,” by the DoJ Inspector General, and confirmed as such, on several occasions, by Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and many many others.

So for the benefit of the U.S. media, and other readers, who may find it helpful for this large body of newly-available information to be culled down into more digestible pieces, I will attempt to break down the deposition, a bit, into some of its subject matter-based component parts. I will try to go through the major disclosures from the deposition, one-by-one, in a series of pieces which might help others to further report and/or investigate these breathtaking disclosures from a former FBI official who, following 9/11, listened to and translated wiretap recordings made from 1996 through 2002, in the FBI’s counterintelligence and counterterrorism departments, under top-secret clearance.

In this first break-down article, we’ll look at the answers given by Edmonds during her deposition in regard to bribery and blackmail of current and former members of the U.S. Congress, including Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Bob Livingston (R-LA), Dan Burton (R-IN), Roy Blunt (R-MO), Stephen Solarz (D-NY), Tom Lantos (D-CA, deceased) and an unnamed, currently-serving, married Democratic Congresswoman said to have been video-taped in a Lesbian affair by Turkish agents for blackmail purposes.

In further breakdown articles, we’ll look at her disclosures concerning top State and Defense Department officials including Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz and, perhaps most notably, the former Deputy Undersecretary of State, Marc Grossman, the third-highest ranking official in the State Department. Also, details on the theft of nuclear weapons technology; disclosures on Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA front company Brewster-Jennings; items related to U.S. knowledge of 9/11 and al-Qaeda prior to September 11, 2001; infiltration of the FBI translation department and more.

Though Edmonds was careful to not “discuss the intelligence gathering method by the FBI,” she notes in her deposition that her claims are “Based on documented and provable, tracked files and based on…100 percent, documented facts.”

Among the specific charges she levels against current and former U.S. Congress Members in the deposition:

Dennis Hastert: “[S]everal categories. The acceptance of large sums of bribery in forms of cash or laundered cash … to make it look legal for his campaigns, and also for his personal use, in order to do certain favors … make certain things happen for foreign entities and foreign governments’ interests, Turkish government’s interest and Turkish business entities’ interests. … other activities, too, including being blackmailed for various reasons. … he used the townhouse that was not his residence for certain not very morally accepted activities. … foreign entities knew about this, in fact, they sometimes participated in some of those not maybe morally well activities in that particular townhouse that was supposed to be an office, not a house, residence at certain hours, certain days, evenings of the week.”
Stephen Solarz: “[A]s lobbyist … acted as conduit to deliver or launder contribution and other briberies to certain members of Congress, but also in pressuring outside Congress, and including blackmail, in certain members of Congress.”

Bob Livingston: “Until 1999 … not very legal activities on behalf of foreign interests and entities, and after 1999 acting as a conduit to, again, further foreign interests, both overtly and covertly as a lobbyist, but also as an operative.”

Tom Lantos: “[N]ot only … bribe[ry], but also … disclosing highest level protected U.S. intelligence and weapons technology information both to Israel and to Turkey. … other very serious criminal conduct.”

Unnamed Congresswoman: (Though not identified as such during the deposition, Edmonds has since confirmed her to be a Democrat) “[T]his Congresswoman’s married with children, grown children, but she is bisexual. … So they have sent Turkish female agents, and that Turkish female agents work for Turkish government, and have sexual relationship with this Congresswoman in her townhouse … and the entire episodes of their sexual conduct was being filmed because the entire house, this Congressional woman’s house was bugged. … to be used for certain things that they wanted to request … I don’t know if she did anything illegal afterward. … the Turkish entities, wanted both congressional related favoritism from her, but also her husband was in a high position in the area in the state she was elected from, and these Turkish entities ran certain illegal operations, and they wanted her husband’s help. But I don’t know if she provided them with those.”

Roy Blunt: “[T]he recipient of both legally and illegally raised donations, campaign donations from …Turkish entities.”

Dan Burton: (And others) “[E]xtremely illegal activities against the United States citizens who were involved in [covert] operations that were … against … foreign government[s] and foreign entities against the United States’ interests.”

Hastert, Livingston and Solarz, as Edmonds notes in her deposition, would all go on to become highly-paid lobbyist for Turkey and/or Turkish public interest groups after they left the U.S. Congress.

Unnamed Congresswoman: (Though not identified as such during the deposition, Edmonds has since confirmed her to be a Democrat) “[T]his Congresswoman’s married with children, grown children, but she is bisexual. … So they have sent Turkish female agents, and that Turkish female agents work for Turkish government, and have sexual relationship with this Congresswoman in her townhouse … and the entire episodes of their sexual conduct was being filmed because the entire house, this Congressional woman’s house was bugged. … to be used for certain things that they wanted to request … I don’t know if she did anything illegal afterwards. … the Turkish entities, wanted both congressional related favoritism from her, but also her husband was in a high position in the area in the state she was elected from, and these Turkish entities ran certain illegal operations, and they wanted her husband’s help. But I don’t know if she provided them with those.”

“I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God.”

On Wednesday, September 2, 2009, Advisor on Homelessness to Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and former Atlanta City Councilperson Debi Mae Starnes was deposed at Atlanta City Hall from 2pm to 7:30pm. Attorney Steve Hall of the Baker Donelson Law Firm questioned Dr. Starnes for the five and one-half hours. The deposition will continue next week on a day not yet announced. The Fulton County Superior Court has set a pretrial hearing for Atlanta Task Force for the Homeless, Inc. v. The City of Atlanta on September 21, 2009, at 9am.

James Wilson Beaty, PhD
Jeremiah 22.16

In a prison medical treatment case, the Plaintiff brought a motion to exclude medical records pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 37(c) after the files were not identified in the Defendants’ initial disclosures or produced in discovery.  Nance v. Wayne County, 2009 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 96279 (M.D. Tenn. Sept. 15, 2009).

The only catch: the non-identified files were lost. 

The Plaintiff claimed the Defendants failed to disclosure the Plaintiff’s medical record pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 26(a) (or supplement their discovery responses) and erroneously denied a request for admission. Nance, at * 5-6.  The fact the medical records at one time existed was not discovered until the deposition of a treating nurse.  Nance, at *6-7. 

The Plaintiff wanted 1) the Defendants not be allowed to use the medical records; 2) the facts in the medical records be taken as true according to the Plaintiff’s claims 3) jury instructions on the non-disclosure of the medical records and 4) fees and costs for the deposition.  Nance, at *11-12. 

The Plaintiff lost….because the medical file was lost.   

The Court found the Defendants did not violate Federal Rule of Civil Procedure Rule 26(a).  A party’s initial disclosures only need to include documents within its “possession, custody or control.”  Nance, at *13-14.  Since the medical file was lost, the file was not within the Defendants “possession, custody or control.” Nance, at *16.  Additionally, the Defendant was not going to use the medical file to support claims or defenses. Nance, at *16-17.

Bow Tie Lesson

The lesson of this discovery dispute is that you cannot use what is lost, nor can you disclose what does not exist.

It seems spying for foreign governments, interests, and think tanks keeps on going unabated without the needed oversight investigations into Sibel Edmonds’s claims. On Tuesday, October 20th, moon scientist Stewart Nozette appeared in court after being arrested in an FBI sting and being charged with attempting to sell secrets to Israel. For background purposes, Nozette spent six years at a secretive defense technology agency and helped developed technology that discovered water on the moon. He was a member of the White House’s National Space Council under George H.W. Bush and also worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory which, according to the UK’s The Times, was the nerve center of US nuclear weapons research during the period of 1990-1999. He also worked as a private consultant for Israel Aerospace Industries, a company owned by the Israeli government. Wiretaps revealed his expectation that he would be approached by saying,

“I don’t get recruited by Mossad every day. I knew this day would come. I just had a feeling.”

Since he knew the day would come, doesn’t that indicate an ongoing problem?

On Wednesday, October 21st, Military.com published a piece on the Sibel Edmonds case titled, “Ex-FBI Translator Claims Spying at Dod” by Bryant Jordan. It delved into the deposition given on August 8th by Sibel in the Schmidt v. Krikorian case and concerned the testimony whereby Pentagon personnel helped in passing national defense secrets to foreign agents. Two fixtures in the 1990’s espionage scheme were two individuals, who when George W. Bush took office, ended up in the Pentagon. One of those individuals was Douglas Feith who became head of the “Office of Special Plans” which would later be dubbed “The Lie Factory” due to its purpose to create false intelligence if needed to launch an unprovoked attack and invasion on Iraq. The other individual was Richard Perle who later became chairman of the Defense Advisory Board. In May 2006, Philip Giraldi wrote an article on Sibel’s case which included the following:

“Doug Feith’s International Advisors Inc, a registered agent for Turkey in 1989-1994, netted $600,000 per year from Turkey, with Richard Perle taking $48,000 annually as a consultant”.

Both Feith and Perle were instrumental in writing “A Clean Break: A New Strategy For Securing The Rhealm”. This was a report from the neoconservative movement during the Clinton years proposing new policy for Israel and was given to then Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. The recommendations were as follows:

A repudiation of the concept of “Land for Peace” which was the basis for the Oslo Accords.
Armed incursions into Palestinian areas under the concept or rubric of “right of hot pursuit”.
Armed incursions into Lebanon and possible air strikes against Syria and Iran.
The removal of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.
A repudiation of the tenets of Labor Zionism (Israel’s socialist foundations) and a change to economic liberalism.

If your memory serves you correctly, you will recognize that much of this is what happened after Bush took office. Of course to carry out spying in the 1990’s required inside people in government, and later when these people became part of government, to help get things rolling.

“They were 100 percent directly involved”, Edmonds told Military.com. They were not in the Pentagon (in the late 1990’s) but they had their people inside the Pentagon.” One of those people, she said, was Larry Franklin, an Air Force officer assigned to the Office of Special Plans…

Larry Franklin was indicted and pleaded guilty for passing secrets to Israel in the AIPAC spy case. He was investigated by the FBI, just like the operations Sibel was exposed to as a translator or contract linguist, just like the moon scientist sting revealed this month.

The Military.com article touched on other people of interest in the Edmonds case as well. This included those Sibel reported to the FBI within the agency’s translation unit which she had found suspicious and troubling such as people both in elected and unelected positions in government that have been involved as revealed in Sibel’s Rogues Gallery. And of course a key figure is Marc Grossman, then secretary of state for political affairs. A quote from Edmonds from her deposition and Military.com revealed,

“certain people from Pentagon would send a list of individuals with access to sensitive data, whether weapons technology or nuclear technology, and this information would include all their sexual preferences, how much they owed on their homes, if they have gambling issues, and [Grossman] would provide it to these foreign operatives, and those foreign operatives would go and hook those Pentagon people”.

And concerning Grossman, he would have all the connections being a former Ambassador to Turkey to be a key facilitator. In writing on the Plame outing affair, Christopher Deliso wrote concerning Grossman,

“Although Grossman “has not been as high profile in the press” FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds cryptically told me the other day, “don’t overlook him – he is very important.”

She was not speaking about the Plame affair, though Grossman did indeed have a key role there, as we will see. According to her, Grossman was one of three officials – the other two, she says, are Richard Perle and Douglas Feith – who had been watched by both Valerie Plame’s Brewster Jennings & Associates CIA team, and by the major FBI investigation of organized crime and governmental corruption on which she herself was working until being terminated in April 2002.

“Interestingly enough, at the same time Feith and Perle were greasing Turkish palms and Grossman was presiding over in Ankara, the CIA’s Brewster-Jennings network and Valerie Plame were focusing on nuclear proliferation in Turkey. This scrutiny led them to trace private citizens in America as well as lobby groups like the American-Turkish Council – which is precisely where Plame met future husband Joseph Wilson, while “on duty” at a 1997 reception held by then-Turkish ambassador to the U.S. Nuzhet Kandemir.”

And of course, the American-Turkish Council was a player at the center of what Sibel Edmonds found and reported to her superiors at the FBI. As has been revealed in her testimony and in the Military.com article,

But not long after she joined the bureau another Turkish translator came on board – Malec Can Dickerson. And in December 2001 Dickerson and her husband, Douglas, then an Air Force major, tried to recruit her to join American Turkish Council — an organization that was actually being monitored by the FBI. Also, according to Edmonds, Douglas Dickerson had previously worked with Grossman in Turkey and, though assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency, was working for Feith’s OSP and also as a coordinator with the State Department on the Turkey Republics in Central Asia.

Despite Sibel’s claims again being backed up by former FBI Counterintelligence and Counterespionage Manager John Cole as well as the OIG report claiming her accusations had basis in fact, the replies to the article by those implicated were predictable. Perle called her a “nutcase” with a vendetta. Feith replied that claims about him were “wildly false and bizarre”. Robert Tyler, co-president of the Cohen Group (where Grossman is now vice chairman) responded for Grossman by saying the claims were untrue. They have probably come to expect nothing coming of this due to Congressional reluctance. This in spite of the fact people from all political stripes and civil libertarians have backed Edmonds’ request for public testimony and inquiry. Progressives have been the most inclined to do so in the past, even when Waxman reneged on his promise to hold hearings on her matter. But lately, some progressives cooled over the flap with Rep. Schakowsy concerning Turkish agent blackmail issues. But they should ask themselves if Rep. Schakowsky had anything to hide, especially in her response accusing Edmonds of being the same as “birthers” and “teabaggers”, especially since they have not been gagged by the DOJ in the past. Blogger Mizgin has given some reasons why people might want some answers in her piece, “From Sursuluk and Chicago to Ergenekon” at The Boiling Frogs Post. Some of the reasons given are as follows:

In spite of the congresswoman’s claims that she has not been involved with the Turks, we know that in 2001, which is included in the time frame of wiretaps that Sibel Edmonds translated, Mehmet Celebi, of Hillary Clinton fame, donated $350 to Jan Schakowsky. Celebi was a fundraiser for another Chicago politician, Rahm Emanuel. Later, Celebi became a bundler for Hillary Clinton, raising $100,000 for her presidential campaign. She finally had to dump Celebi because of his role as producer of the Turkish film “Kurtlar Vadisi Irak“. …

While Celebi was moving and shaking for the Democratic Party in Chicago, Schakowsky’s husband, Robert Creamer, a political consultant, was under investigation for bank fraud. The investigation was ongoing in 1998, which was well within the timeframe of the FBI wiretaps from Chicago that Sibel Edmonds translated. It may very well be that Turkish agents targeted Schakowsky in order to obtain favors from her husband. As Sibel stated in The American Conservative interview:

They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois.

For Jan Schakowsky to deny any relationship would be utter foolishness, of course, because she’s been very much involved lately with the Fethullah Gulen movement through the Chicago-based Niagara Foundation, whose honorary president is none other than Hocaefendi himself. This year Schakowsky wrote a Letter of Recognition for the Niagara Foundations 2009 “Peace and Dialogue Awards”. And Schakowsky did the same in 2008 and in 2007.

As was pointed out in the “Kill The Messenger” documentary, a lot of secret activity of US government agencies and outside interests dealt with major issues that effect the security of this nation such as the nuclear black market, terrorism, and the narcotics trade. Just this week, it has been revealed that Hamid Karzai’s brother was on the CIA’s payroll and activities involved paramilitary groups and the opium trade (which begins in Afghanistan and winds its way to Turkey for final production stages). When coupled with yet another spy arrest in the person of the moon scientist, it’s time for answers. Moon water and Sibel Edmonds type answers. So what does moon water have to do with Sibel Edmonds, espionage, and FBI stings? Nothing and that is the point. Why would a moon scientist expect and want to participate in it?