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<title><![CDATA[178- 03) Day At The Museum]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Como o dia prometia, engolimos o café da manhã e saímos pra rua. Caminhamos alguns poucos quarteirõe]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Como o dia prometia, engolimos o café da manhã e saímos pra rua.<br />
Caminhamos alguns poucos quarteirões e caímos dentro do Science Museum.</p>
<p>O dia estava chuvoso, e acho que por este motivo, escolher o dia para visitar museus foi uma sábia decisão.<br />
Vc pode ir quantas vezes quiser nos grandes museus da cidade e não pagar absolutamente nada por isso.</p>
<p>Se há algo a aprender com o londrinos é que chuva não é desculpa para não se divertir.<br />
A chuva em Londres é charmosa.<br />
As pessoas continuam a caminhar na rua, continuam fazendo seus exercícios e suas compras.<br />
A chuva em Londres é uma garoa fina, despretensiosa, que às vezes acontece apenas de um lado da rua.<br />
Ela chega e vai embora sem avisar&#8230;</p>
<p>E assim entramos no gigantesco e colorido Science Museum.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1863" title="Science" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/science.jpg" alt="Science" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1864" title="Science-Museum" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/science-museum.jpg" alt="Science-Museum" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1882" title="Science-Airplane-Jo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/science-airplane-jo.jpg" alt="Science-Airplane-Jo" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p>Vc nem bem entra e já se vê rodeado por pequeninos e pequeninas falando sem parar um inglês carregado de sotaque.<br />
É o cúmulo da &#8220;kawaiice&#8221; ouvir aquelas crianças completamente malucas expondo suas exclamações naquele idioma tão cinematográfico.</p>
<p>Eu e a Ju ficamos maravilhados com a luz daquelas criancinhas.<br />
Apesar de muito educadas, eram por demais curiosas e questionavam seus professores a todo instante.</p>
<p>Era dia de excursão escolar e crianças pipocavam por todos os corredores e salões.<br />
Para qualquer um sem paciência com crianças a experiência poderia ser traumática, para nós que adoramos foi excepcional.</p>
<p>Fossem as criancinhas em sua cidade natal ou os dois turistas brasileiros, éramos todos pequenos exploradores à se perder nesse enorme museu.</p>
<p>Vimos coisas que nem sonhávamos encontrar por ali, entre elas, a cápsula Apollo 10, lançada ao espaço em 68&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1883" title="Capsula" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/capsula.jpg" alt="Capsula" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Durante o regresso da Lua em 26 de maio de 1969, a Apollo 10 conseguiu atingir a mais rápida velocidade de um veículo tripulado, viajando a 39.896 km/h em relação à terra. Os membros da tripulação foram Thomas Stafford, John W. Young e Eugene Cernan:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1884" title="apollo-10" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/apollo-10.jpg" alt="apollo-10" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Mas o mais impressionante, eu fui ver depois, pesquisando sobre na <a href="http://www.spaceflightonline.com/Apollo%20Command%20Modules">internet</a>:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1885" title="Apollo-10-Shield" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/apollo-10-shield.jpg" alt="Apollo-10-Shield" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>É quase impossível imaginar algo tão fantástico.<br />
Eu já fico maluco por andar de avião, que só de imaginar a viagem dessa cápsula e todos os fenômenos naturais que ela sofreu ao entrar na atmosfera&#8230;</p>
<p>Vimos algumas locomotivas&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1886" title="Trem-1868" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/trem-1868.jpg" alt="Trem-1868" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p>Entre elas, a primeira locomotiva a operar comerciamente, em 1813.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1887" title="Puffing-Billy" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/puffing-billy.jpg" alt="Puffing-Billy" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>A Puffing Billy, construída para atender a mina de carvão Wylan Colliery de Christopher Blackett, em New Castle.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1889" title="will_hedley_puffing_billy" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/will_hedley_puffing_billy.jpg" alt="will_hedley_puffing_billy" width="495" height="333" /></p>
<p>Adoro trens, adoro trilhos, túneis e mais ainda histórias de ferrovias!<br />
Estar ali era bem especial.</p>
<p>Aviões pendurados no teto, carros de ponta-cabeça, um gigantesco faról&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1890" title="Science-Airplane" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/science-airplane.jpg" alt="Science-Airplane" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1865" title="O-Farol" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/o-farol.jpg" alt="O-Farol" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>&#8230; Peças industriais monstruosas, foguetes, mísseis, motores do tamanho de uma sala de aula, relógios, derivados do plástico, da borracha, satélites, bússolas, rádios, computadores, liquidificadores&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1893" title="Horoscopo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/horoscopo.jpg" alt="Horoscopo" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1894" title="Plastico" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/plastico.jpg" alt="Plastico" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1892" title="Rockets" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/rockets.jpg" alt="Rockets" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1891" title="Bussolas" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/bussolas.jpg" alt="Bussolas" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1870" title="Vitruviana" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/vitruviana.jpg" alt="Vitruviana" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1871" title="Borracha" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/borracha.jpg" alt="Borracha" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1872" title="Borracha-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/borracha-joao.jpg" alt="Borracha-Joao" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Tudo o que um dia fora inventado pela ciência podia ser encontrado em exposição, devidamente em ordem cronológica, com placas informativas e detalhes curiosos&#8230;</p>
<p>O museu é impecável.<br />
Desde a sinalização aos cartazes e material gráfico de apoio ao visitante, tudo é de um bom gosto tremendo.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1895" title="Halo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/halo.jpg" alt="Halo" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>É muito mais que um SESC é, e olha que o SESC é referência mundial de coisa boa.</p>
<p>O Science Museu chega a ser até chato de tão legal que é.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1866" title="Painel-Joao-Jussara" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/painel-joao-jussara.jpg" alt="Painel-Joao-Jussara" width="495" height="369" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1867" title="Painel-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/painel-joao.jpg" alt="Painel-Joao" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>E assim, depois de percorrer e descobrir todos os andares, salões, corredores, gastar mais algumas horas no interessantíssimo shopping do museu (cheio de invenções caras para crianças de todas as idades), lutei contra a vontade de comprar um Skyhawk 1145 PM&#8230;</p>
<p>Ponderava matematicamente a futura aquisição, pesando arduamente a decisão de levar um trambolho desses pelo resto da viagem vs a satisfação que eu teria ao chegar em casa com um passaporte tão barato para as estrelas.</p>
<p>Por um lado o tamanho da caixa, do outro a convidativa bagatela de £140,00.<br />
Por um lado o melhor investimento que eu poderia fazer com o meu suado dinheirinho, do outro a certeza de gastar minhas amadas libras até a última cédula numa única compra.</p>
<p>Havia brinquedos malucos que desafiavam a gravidade e todas as leis da física&#8230;<br />
Mas não! Mil vezes não! Não era o momento de levar o Skyhawk 1145 PM mais barato que eu sequer imaginaria encontrar&#8230;<br />
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh&#8230; Tão perto e tão longe&#8230;<br />
Despedi-me dele, prometendo pra mim mesmo que voltaria para comprá-lo.</p>
<p>Tudo bem, deixa pra lá&#8230; Eu não teria um lugar para abrigá-lo mesmo&#8230;<br />
Deixa eu arrumar uma sacada bem bacana pra ele que eu volto pra buscá-lo!</p>
<p>Tentei encontrar um robô como prêmio de consolação, mas só o Rovio custava £250,00, o I-Sobot £175,00&#8230;</p>
<p>Devia ter trazido um Hex Bugs Crab&#8230;<br />
Pelo menos eram baratinhos e pequenininhos&#8230;</p>
<p>Eu estava maravilhado pelos brinquedos maravilhosos do Science Museum, mas também quem resiste?<br />
Saquem só o que eles vendem lá na humilde lojinha deles:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencemuseumshop.co.uk/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1898" title="Science-Site" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/science-site.jpg" alt="Science-Site" width="495" height="973" /></a></p>
<p>Sai de lá com uma certeza: voltar nas próximas férias&#8230; Com muito mais libras no bolso.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1901" title="Expo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/expo.jpg" alt="Expo" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p>Andamos alguns outros quarteirões do nosso bairro e encontramos o Natural History Museum.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1868" title="globe_logo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/globe_logo.jpg" alt="globe_logo" width="500" height="257" /></p>
<p>Ao atravessar aquele portal dimensional, um sentimento de pena e perda se formou em meu coração. Fui atingido por uma vontade incomum em voltar a ser criança.<br />
Queria poder ter tido a oportunidade de vivenciar este museu com meus cinco anos de idade.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1869" title="Escada-Rolante" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/escada-rolante.jpg" alt="Escada-Rolante" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Ser criança ali naquele momento, com uma mente ainda intacta e cheia de espaço para se guardar experiências impressionantes, certamente poderia ser considerado um puta pontapé inicial para alguém se tornar ímpar em sua sociedade.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1874" title="Terra" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/terra.jpg" alt="Terra" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>O Natural History Museum em uma realidade paralela, definitivamente seria o meu lugar favorito.<br />
Chega a doer o cérebro só de pensar no quão bem ele me faria, no tanto que ele me influenciaria e no quanto ele me colocaria para questionar as questões da vida.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1875" title="Terra-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/terra-joao.jpg" alt="Terra-Joao" width="495" height="369" /></p>
<p>Mas esse sou eu, um guri que nunca se esqueceu da excursão à exposição/instalação no Sesc Pompéia, da visita ao Zoológico com a turma da escola, da passagem pela central dos Correios ou da visita à Estação Ciência.</p>
<p>Cresci com vontade de olhar mais para o microscópio.<br />
Olhava através do telescópio e me questionava como olhar através do microscópio era tão similar.<br />
O micro explica o macro e vice-e-versa.</p>
<p>Em algum momento da minha vida esqueci do quanto eu gostava de laboratórios ou do sonho de me tornar astronauta.</p>
<p>Se eu fosse londrino e tivesse especial museu em minha cidade, faria de tudo para compartilhar incrível descoberta.<br />
Como eu não sou e tirando o fato de que a entrada ao museu é completamente gratuita, resta-me fazer boa propaganda para que meus conterrâneos cruzem o Atlântico até Londres para conferir tamanho estímulo cultural.</p>
<p>Subir aquela escada rolante era literalmente viajar ao centro da Terra.<br />
Foi assim que chegamos à expo/instalação sobre a formação da Terra.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1921" title="expo-terra" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/expo-terra.jpg" alt="expo-terra" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Lá estava a Islândia sendo citada outra vez&#8230;<br />
Pra quem leu o clássico de Júlio Verne, não poderia haver jóia mais preciosa.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1922" title="Pedra-Iceland" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/pedra-iceland.jpg" alt="Pedra-Iceland" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Monte Hekla&#8230; Que mágico!</p>
<p>Não há como ser justo no detalhamento emotivo ao se visitar o imponente museu, por isso é um pecado falar muito sobre cada clique.<br />
Mil respostas.<br />
Mil perguntas.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1877" title="Natural" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/natural.jpg" alt="Natural" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Não há como descrever a sensação de estar embaixo de um Diplodocus, aquele dino maior que uma quadra de tênis, tão pesado quanto dois elefantes.<br />
Sim, aquele que só comia brotos nos topos das árvores&#8230; O preferido de 9 entre 10 crianças.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1878" title="Natural-Dino-Gigante" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/natural-dino-gigante.jpg" alt="Natural-Dino-Gigante" width="495" height="369" /></p>
<p>Olhar para esse esqueleto montado nesse magnífico salão e contemplá-lo silenciosamente. Ter um momento de vislumbre do que deveria ser quando esses ossos protegiam órgãos e eram envoltos por músculos e gordura&#8230; Voltar 150 milhões de anos atrás e imaginá-lo com vida, andando pelas terras lá da América do Norte&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1902" title="Dino-Jo" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/dino-jo.jpg" alt="Dino-Jo" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p>Dinos! Não há como não se lembrar dos primos pequenos, principalmente do Leonardo!</p>
<p><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/Fc3ObhHWtqk&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/Fc3ObhHWtqk&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></p>
<p>Amazing place! Lugar estonteante. Arquitetura maravilhosa abrigando tudo o que há de mais interessante para se contemplar.<br />
Escadas, vitrais, colunas, naves, cúpulas, torres e passagens&#8230; As molduras para retratar natureza tão esplêndida&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1879" title="Natural-Escada-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/natural-escada-joao.jpg" alt="Natural-Escada-Joao" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1880" title="Natural-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/natural-joao.jpg" alt="Natural-Joao" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Em certos momentos, era preciso estacionar o corpo e arejar a mente para continuar captando mais informações&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1903" title="Peixes" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/peixes.jpg" alt="Peixes" width="495" height="371" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1905" title="Ponte" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/ponte.jpg" alt="Ponte" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1906" title="Tronco" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/tronco.jpg" alt="Tronco" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1907" title="Vitrais" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/vitrais.jpg" alt="Vitrais" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Retomar o fôlego durava alguns suspiros mais longos&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1876" title="Fosseis" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/fosseis.jpg" alt="Fosseis" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Logo mais estávamos ativos novamente. Esquecíamos das pernas&#8230; Elas nem doíam mais.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1881" title="Passaros" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/passaros.jpg" alt="Passaros" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Vimos pela primeira vez, em toda a viagem, nosso reflexo.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1908" title="Espelhos01" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/espelhos01.jpg" alt="Espelhos01" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1909" title="Espelhos02" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/espelhos02.jpg" alt="Espelhos02" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1910" title="Espelhos03" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/espelhos03.jpg" alt="Espelhos03" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1911" title="Espelhos-Baby" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/espelhos-baby.jpg" alt="Espelhos-Baby" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Rimos muito!</p>
<p><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/00KR-bYBnP8&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/00KR-bYBnP8&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></p>
<p>A cada sala que entrávamos, algo para se surpreender&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1913" title="Dino-Ju" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/dino-ju.jpg" alt="Dino-Ju" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Algo para aprender&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1912" title="Big-Baby" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/big-baby.jpg" alt="Big-Baby" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Não sei se foi nós que os encontramos ou se foram eles que nos encontraram, mas o salão dos animais em escala real era belíssimo:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1914" title="Baleias" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/baleias.jpg" alt="Baleias" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1915" title="Baleias-Joao" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/baleias-joao.jpg" alt="Baleias-Joao" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1916" title="Baleias-Ju" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/baleias-ju.jpg" alt="Baleias-Ju" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1917" title="Baleias-Zoio" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/baleias-zoio.jpg" alt="Baleias-Zoio" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Tantos registros, tantas fotografias&#8230;<br />
Essas aqui escolhidas, são apenas uma insignificante parte do que é viver isso de verdade.´<br />
É como implantar um chip de upgrade diretamente no cérebro da gente. É investir em si mesmo. Captar conhecimento da maneira mais gostosa que existe.</p>
<p>Permitam-se!<br />
E se ainda assim vcs acharem que uma viagem dessas não é muito sua praia&#8230;<br />
Dêem essa visita de presente para si mesmos!<br />
Dêem essa visita de presente para seus filhos!<br />
Dêem essa visita de presente para alguém que vcs tenham carinho!</p>
<p>Não vivam sem tal estímulo.</p>
<p>Não há como não se sentir pequeno lá dentro.<br />
Não há como não se sentir importante lá fora.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1918" title="Fachada-Caminhando-0" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/fachada-caminhando-0.jpg" alt="Fachada-Caminhando-0" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1919" title="Fachada-Caminhando" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/fachada-caminhando.jpg" alt="Fachada-Caminhando" width="495" height="693" /></p>
<p>Não há como não se surpreender com o passado.<br />
Não há como não se divertir com tantos presentes.<br />
Não há como não se imaginar ali num não tão distante futuro.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1920" title="Fachada" src="http://zoodojoo.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/fachada.jpg" alt="Fachada" width="495" height="500" /></p>
<p>Ps: Meu Deus do céu, imaginem quando eu for escrever sobre o Louvre! Preciso de outro esquema! Esse post acabou com as minhas forças digitais! Hehehe&#8230;</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Matt Wedel</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Figure 3 from Schwarz-Wings et al. 2009. A is Diplodocus, B-D are Giraffatitan. Earlier this month D]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div id="attachment_2226" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/sauropod-vert-fea.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2226" title="Sauropod vert FEA" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/sauropod-vert-fea.jpg" alt="Figure 3 from Schwarz-Wings et al. 2009. A is Diplodocus, B-D are Giraffatitan." width="480" height="310" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Figure 3 from Schwarz-Wings et al. 2009. A is Diplodocus, B-D are Giraffatitan.</p></div>
<p>Earlier this month Daniela Schwarz-Wings and colleagues published the first finite element analysis (FEA) of sauropod vertebrae (Schwarz-Wings et al. 2009). Above is one of the figures showing some of their results. Following standard convention, stresses are shown on a gradient with cooler colors indicating lower stresses and hotter colors indicating higher stresses. I&#8217;m not going to dwell on the on the nuts-n-bolts of FEA in general or of this study in particular. Instead, I want to talk about how sauropod vertebrae are built.</p>
<div id="attachment_2227" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/figure-12-brachiosaurus-ct.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-2227" title="Figure 12 - Brachiosaurus CT" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/figure-12-brachiosaurus-ct.png" alt="CT cross sections of BYU 12866, a mid-cervical of Brachiosaurus sp." width="480" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CT cross sections of BYU 12866, a mid-cervical of Brachiosaurus sp.</p></div>
<p>In cross-section, sauropod vertebrae often have thick bone at the outer edges of the laminae and in the walls and especially the floor of the centrum, as shown in this <em>Brachiosaurus </em>cervical. The bone everywhere else is pretty thin. If you hit one of these vertebrae with some magical forumula that would dissolve away all the bone thinner than, say, 1 cm, all that would be left would be the various apophyses, the outer margins of the laminae connecting them, and probably the bottom half of the centrum. It would be like the outline of a vertebra constructed from tent poles, or tinkertoys.</p>
<p>This is weird because most pneumatic sauropod vertebrae have at least something approaching an I-beam shape in cross-section. You might think that the median septum would be mechanically important, but it&#8217;s usually very thin, sometimes perforated (see Hatcher&#8217;s [1901] <em>Diplodocus </em>cervicals, for example), and often asymmetrically deviated to one side or the other. Not what you would expect for a piece of bone that was doing any work.</p>
<p>And indeed, Schwarz-Wings et al. (2009) found that:</p>
<blockquote><p>Comparative stresses are distributed evenly around the vertebrae and mainly on the bone cortex. Peak stresses occur only at points where the tendons and muscles are inserting because the insertion areas used were small resulting in extreme localized stresses. The interior of both vertebrae is nearly stress free. Almost no stresses occur around the cavities and in their bony walls (figure 3).</p></blockquote>
<p>This reminds me not of I-beams but of the long bones of the limbs of terrestrial vertebrates. There&#8217;s a reason why you&#8217;ve got a big honkin&#8217; marrow cavity running through the middle of your femur: the stresses are being borne by the walls of the bone. It makes sense that vertebrae would function similarly, especially sauropod cervicals which sometimes approximate limb bones in their proportions.</p>
<p>So how about that median septum? Why aren&#8217;t sauropod vertebrae just hollow tubes? My guess&#8211;and it is a guess&#8211;is that they got as close to being hollow tubes as their evolutionary and developmental origins allowed. The pneumatic diverticula invaded the centra from either side and pushed in lateral-to-medial, and I think the median septum is just the wimpy little bit of bone left in between the two sets of diverticula when they <em>almost </em>meet up in the middle.</p>
<p>Even if that&#8217;s correct, there&#8217;s another mystery: why don&#8217;t the diverticula just go ahead and erode away the median septum? I can think of two possible reasons. One is that, for reasons I don&#8217;t know and I&#8217;m not sure if anyone else does either, pneumatic diverticula are good at getting into bones but pretty lousy at getting back out. There are comparatively few cases of diverticula inside bones making foramina to get out into the  surrounding tissue. It does happen&#8211;in humans, the mastoid air cells sometimes bust out and make subcutaneous pneumatocoels, basically bubbles of air under the skin (Anorbe et al. 2000)&#8211;but it seems to be rare. Maybe median septa fall under the same inscrutable rule.</p>
<p>(Incidentally, this makes the <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/the-astonishing-case-of-hmn-siid8-part-3-perforate-anterior-centroparapophyseal-laminae/">perforate laminae in </a><em><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/the-astonishing-case-of-hmn-siid8-part-3-perforate-anterior-centroparapophyseal-laminae/">Giraffatitan</a> </em>all the weirder.)</p>
<p>Another, more mundane possibility is that the median septa (and other oddly thin bits of bone) are not <em>never </em>loaded, just infrequently loaded. Not enough to make them straight, thick, or normal-lookin&#8217;, but enough to make sure they don&#8217;t get resorbed entirely.</p>
<p>Sauropod vertebrae are just loaded with these growth-and-form-related mysteries. Kudos to Schwarz-Wings et al. for pushing us a little farther down the road toward solving them.</p>
<p><strong>References</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11091017">Anorbe, E., Aisa, P. and Saenz de Ormijana, J. 2000. Spontaneous pneumatocele and pneumocephalus associated with mastoid hyperpneumatization. European Journal of Radiology 36:158–160. </a>[abstract only for free]</li>
<li><a href="http://www.antiquebooks.net/cgi-bin/bookfront?book=12&#38;cookie=no&#38;userid=11467">Hatcher, J.B. 1901. <em>Diplodocus</em> (Marsh): its osteology, taxonomy and probable habits, with a restoration of the skeleton. Memoirs of the Carnegie Museum 1: 1-63 and plates I-XIII.</a></li>
<li>Schwarz-Wings, D., Meyer, C.A., Frey, E., Manz-Steiner, H.-R., and Schumacher, R. 2009. Mechanical implications of pneumatic neck vertebrae in sauropod dinosaurs. Proceedings of the Royal Society B. doi: 10.1098/rspb.2009.1275</li>
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<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
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<p>Back when <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/xenoposeidon-week/">the Xenoposeidon paper</a> came out, we suggested that Xeno could be the first repesentative of a new sauropod &#8220;family&#8221;, and then discussed at some length: <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/xenoposeidon-week-day-6-so-what-is-a-family-anyway/">what is a “family” anyway?</a> Now that <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-is-not-brachiosaurus/">the Brachiosaurus paper</a> is out, and I&#8217;ve argued that the species &#8220;<em>Brachiosaurus</em>&#8221; <em>brancai</em> is generically distinct from <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em>, it&#8217;s time to talk about what a genus is (and so what &#8220;generically distinct&#8221; means).</p>
<p>In an unnecessarily snarky aside at the end of the last entry, I implied that Randy Irmis would be the one to say that, because my phylogeny recovered &#8220;<em>Brachiosaurus</em>&#8221; <em>brancai</em> as the sister taxon to <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em>, it could and should remain in the genus <em>Brachiosaurus</em>, irrespective of the morphological differences between the genera.  He didn&#8217;t quite do that &#8212; although <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-is-not-brachiosaurus/#comment-4638">Daniel Madzia very nearly did</a> &#8212; but <a href="http://dml.cmnh.org/2009Sep/msg00168.html">Jaime Headden certainly did over on the Dinosaur Mailing</a> List, and even ended up asking: &#8220;So my question is this: Why do we need <em>Giraffatitan</em>, and cannot have a <em>Brachiosaurus proteles</em> etc.?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are plenty of possible responses to this, but before we plough into that, here is a pretty picture:</p>
<h1>Ligament rugosities on the neural spines of Brachiosaurus dorsals</h1>
<div id="attachment_2076" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/presacrals-5-7-neural-spines-posterior.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2076 " title="presacrals-5-7-neural-spines-posterior-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/presacrals-5-7-neural-spines-posterior-480px.jpeg" alt="Brachiosaurus altithorax holotype FMNH P25107, presacral vertebrae 5-7, neural spines in right posterolateral view" width="480" height="640" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Brachiosaurus altithorax holotype FMNH P25107, presacral vertebrae 5-7, neural spines in right posterolateral view</p></div>
<p>The more retentive among you SV-POW! veterans might remember way back in the very first month of this blog when I showed you what I said were <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/brachiosaurus-altithorax-last-four-dorsals/">the last four presacral vertebrae of the </a><em><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/brachiosaurus-altithorax-last-four-dorsals/">Brachiosaurus altithorax</a></em><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/brachiosaurus-altithorax-last-four-dorsals/"> holotype FMNH P25107</a>.  Actually, I don&#8217;t know what I was thinking &#8212; they were presacrals 4-7, not 1-4, but that&#8217;s not the point.  The point is that Mike From Ottawa (whatever happened to him?) asked about the very rugose anterior surfaces of the neural spines, and <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/brachiosaurus-altithorax-last-four-dorsals/#comment-55">I replied</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What the photo doesn’t show (but if you stay tuned long enough you’ll probably see one that does) is that the posterior faces of the neural spines have very similar rugosities. In life, these would have been the anchor points for epaxial muscles and ligaments. In <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em> (but not <em>B</em>. <em>brancai</em>) these have a distinctive inverted-triangle shape. In the most posterior pair of <em>B</em>. <em>brancai</em> dorsals, which are co-ossified, the ligament joining their neural spines is itself ossified. Picture to follow some time, I guess <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am finally following up on the first half of that promise: the picture above shows the three most anterior of those same four presacral vertebrae from the <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em> holotype, but this time in right posterolateral view, so you can see the posterior faces of the neural spines.  And you&#8217;ll notice that on the back of each spine, as well as on the front, there&#8217;s a large and extremely rough inverted triangle.  I&#8217;ve yet to see anything at all like that in any other sauropod &#8212; <em>Giraffatitan</em> and the Archbishop included.  Very distinctive.</p>
<p>Right then &#8212; back to genera!</p>
<h1>Rampant genera on the loose!</h1>
<p>Here&#8217;s a practical reason to reject the idea that if two taxa are sisters, then they should be regarded as congeneric: Jaime wants to retain the species <em>brancai</em> within <em>Brachiosaurus</em> because it is (in the current analysis) the sister to the type species <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em>.  He then wants to put the species <em>proteles</em> into <em>Brachiosaurus</em> because the species we all know as <em>Sauroposeidon proteles</em> is (presumably) the sister to the <em>Brachiosaurus</em>-<em>altithorax</em>-and-<em>brancai</em> clade.  But by induction, if we accept Jaime&#8217;s policy, whatever is sister to that clade must also be subsumed into <em>Brachiosaurus</em>, so that we end up losing Titanosauria, Camarasauridae, Diplodocoidea, etc. &#8212; <em>Diplodocus carnegii</em> becomes a species of <em>Brachiosaurus</em>.  The good side of this scheme is that eventually, we&#8217;ll work our way up to the base of Amniota, at which point I become a member of the species <em>Brachiosaurus sapiens</em>.  That, I could get on board with.  But in other respects, this classification would not be so hot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming that no-one really wants this, and so that advocates of the Sister-Taxa-Are-Congeneric school (hereafter STAC) recognise that you have to draw a line <em>somewhere</em>.  But where?  And how do you <em>choose</em> where?  [Only time will tell whether I just coined an AHATWNUABPANTA.]</p>
<h1>How to choose between specific and generic separation</h1>
<p>At this point, I am reminded of when I used to be on a mailing list for wannabe writers. Lots of dogma on that list &#8212; people saying &#8220;don&#8217;t overdo adverbs&#8221; and &#8220;make sure you have enough incidental detail&#8221; and so.  People trying to nail down an algorithm for good writing.  But the best advice I saw on that list was from Jane MacDonald: &#8221;My personal advice is don&#8217;t overdo, or underdo, anything in your writing.  Do it exactly right.&#8221;(*)  That&#8217;s my attitude to drawing genus boundaries.  It is, frankly, an art; and there are no substitutes for taste, experience, judgement, familiarity with the group in question and all those other touchy-feely qualities that uber-cladists would love to find a way to abolish if they could.  But they can&#8217;t.  There is no algorithm for this.  I also think of an observation by computer scientist Bjarne Stroustrup, the inventor of the <span style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-color:#ffffcc;background-position:initial initial;">C++</span> programming language: &#8220;Design and programming are human activities; forget that and all is lost.&#8221;  The same is true of palaeontology.  (And of, well, everything.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing, folks: a genus, just like any other taxon, is there to be <em>useful</em>.  Its purpose is not to conform to a dogma, but to inform and enlighten.  In the new paper, I wrote that &#8220;generic separation is warranted since the two species are more different from each other than, for example, <em>Diplodocus</em> and <em>Barosaurus</em> Marsh, 1890&#8243; (Taylor 2009:798).  I stand by that as a great way to figure out when the morphological differences  between two species merit generic separation: it&#8217;s all about conveying degrees of difference.  And, yes, of course I know that the morphological extent of a genus in sauropods is completely different from its extent in, say, botany, where the genus <em>Quercus</em> (oaks) has 700 species or something stupid.  Yes, I fully accept that there is no rigorous and absolute standard by which we can determine The Right Place to drop a genus boundary.  Sure.  But that doesn&#8217;t let us out from the responsibility of making the best judgements that we can, based on relevant prior art, recognised conventions, congruence with similar decisions and &#8212; there it is again &#8212; good taste.</p>
<p>(*) Actually, that is only the <em>second</em> best advice I saw on the wannabe writers&#8217; mailing list.  The best advice of all came second-hand, and was passed on by Greg Gunther: &#8220;I was on an [email] list with Tom Clancy once.  Mr. Clancy&#8217;s contribution to the list was, &#8216;Write the damn book&#8217;.&#8221;  Top advice.</p>
<h1>Nomenclatural stability</h1>
<p>And so finally I come to Randy&#8217;s comment.  In response to his question, I <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-is-not-brachiosaurus/#comment-4611">guessed</a> that when I put them all in a matrix together, the Archbishop will form a clade with <em>Brachiosaurus</em>, and <em>Sauroposeidon</em> with <em>Giraffatitan</em>.  Like this: ((<em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em>, &#8220;The Archbishop&#8221;), (<em>Giraffatitan brancai</em>, <em>Sauroposeidon proteles</em>)).</p>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">,&#8211;Brachiosaurus altithorax</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">,&#60;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">/  `&#8211;&#8221;The Archbishop&#8221;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">&#60;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">\  ,&#8211;Giraffatitan brancai</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">`&#60;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:2642px;width:1px;height:1px;">`&#8211;Sauroposeidon proteles</div>
<p>And Randy <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-is-not-brachiosaurus/#comment-4616">said</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">For the sake of discussion, if the topology is as you say, then I do support the generic separation of <em>altithorax</em> and <em>brancai</em>. Now, of course, as you might surmise, if the two sub-clades are well-supported, I would also advocate putting <em>altithorax</em> and the NHM Tendaguru taxon in the same genus, and <em>brancai</em> and <em>Sauroposeidon</em> in the same genus.</p>
<p>Now I yield to no man in my respect for Randy, whose <a href="http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~irmisr/cv.html">work</a> exceeds my own humble output by a truly humiliating factor, and who makes it even worse by being such a nice guy.  But I hope he will not take it the wrong way if I say that here, he is talking the purest arsegravy.  Suppose the topology came out the way I guessed, and we adopted his suggested nomenclature.  Then five minutes later Paul Upchurch comes along with a new analysis that finds the Archbishop closer to <em>Giraffatitan</em> after all: and suddenly <em>Brachiosaurus archbishopus</em> becomes <em>Giraffatitan archbishopus</em>.  Five more minutes pass and Jeff Wilson publishes his new phylogeny, in which &#8220;<em>Sauroposeidon</em>&#8221; <em>proteles</em> is sister to <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em>, and so what was briefly <em>Giraffatitan proteles</em> becomes <em>Brachiosaurus proteles</em>.  Later that afternoon Jerry Harris shows that <em>Cedarosaurus</em> is more closely related to <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em> than the species <em>proteles</em> is: at this point, presumably, either <em>Cedarosaurus</em> gets sunk into <em>Brachiosaurus</em>, as <em>B</em>. <em>weiskopfae</em>, or My Big Fat <em>Brachiosaurus</em> Genus gets smashed up and suddenly, woah, <em>proteles</em> needs its own genus after all and <em>Sauroposeidon</em> is back!</p>
<p>Hands up who wants to deal with tracking all that nomenclatural shifting back and forth?  Hmm, thought not.  Folks, when we name a new species of an existing genus <strong>we are betting the nomenclature on the phylogenetic hypothesis</strong>.  This is just a dumb thing to do in this day and age &#8212; especially if you work on dinosaurs which (A) are big and usually very incomplete and so their positions can&#8217;t  be known with certainty; (B) are trendy enough to be subject to a stream of new phylogenetic analyses; and (C) are in a field where pretty much everyone seems to be hot for mandatory monophyly of genera.</p>
<p>So I end with a plea: unless you know <em>for certain</em> that your new taxon is super-closely related to the type species of an existing genus, and unless you are <em>sure</em> that this isn&#8217;t going to change with subsequent discoveries, please put your new species in its own monospecific genus.  That way, nomenclature is independent from phylogeny, which is surely how we all want it.  A new monospecific genus is essentially a uninomial that happens to be spelled with a space in the middle.  And uninomials are nice: they rescue us from Linnaeus&#8217;s dumb mistake in lumbering nomenclature with binomials.</p>
<p>This has been <a href="http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif">an Unwelcome Education Product</a>.</p>
<h1>Acknowledgements</h1>
<p>Many thanks to Jim Farlow for suggesting the title of this post, which I have cheerfully stolen.  I have no idea whether he agrees with the arguments presented in this article.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
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<li><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor2009/Taylor2009-brachiosaurus-and-giraffatitan.pdf">Taylor, Michael P.  2009.  A re-evaluation of </a><em><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor2009/Taylor2009-brachiosaurus-and-giraffatitan.pdf">Brachiosaurus altithorax</a></em><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor2009/Taylor2009-brachiosaurus-and-giraffatitan.pdf"> Riggs 1903 (Dinosauria, Sauropoda) and its generic separation from </a><em><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor2009/Taylor2009-brachiosaurus-and-giraffatitan.pdf">Giraffatitan brancai</a></em><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor2009/Taylor2009-brachiosaurus-and-giraffatitan.pdf"> (Janensch 1914).  Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 29(3):787-806.</a></li>
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<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>These are the days of miracle and wonder, especially for all you right-minded people out there who are lovers of fine brachiosaurs.  I heard yesterday evening about a new paper in Proceedings of the Royal Society B: You and Li&#8217;s (2009, duh) description of a new brachiosaur, the first one known from the Cretaceous of Asia: <em>Qiaowanlong kangxii</em>. Best of all, it&#8217;s based primarily on vertebral material:</p>
<div id="attachment_2006" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/youli2009-qiaowanlong-fig2.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2006 " title="YouLi2009-qiaowanlong-fig2-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/youli2009-qiaowanlong-fig2-480px.jpeg" alt="You and Li (2009:fig. 2)  Cervical vertebrae of Qiaowanlong kangxii holotype FRDC GJ 07-14." width="480" height="474" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">You and Li (2009:fig. 2)  Cervical vertebrae of Qiaowanlong kangxii holotype FRDC GJ 07-14. (a) Photograph and (b) interpretative line drawing of C4-C7 in left lateral view; (c) a distal portion of a cervical rib; C9 in (d) cranial, (e) left lateral, (f) caudal, (g) right lateral, (h) dorsal and (i) ventral views.  di, diapophysis; f1-f5, fossa 1-fossa 5; pa, parapophysis; poz, postzygapophysis; prz, prezygapophysis; sp, neural spine.  Scale bars, 10 cm.</p></div>
<p>Brachiosaur aficionados will be gazing slack-jawed at parts d, f and h of this figure (the anterior, posterior and dorsal views of C9), which clearly show that the neural spines of the new taxon are bifid (i.e. have two peaks side by side and a trough between them) &#8212; just like the cervical neural spines of flagellicaudatans (diplodocids and dicraeosaurs) and camarasaurs.  And mamenchisaurs.  And some titanosaurs.  And <em>Erketu</em>.  Finding this feature yet again &#8212; apparently independently evolved in brachiosaurs &#8212; makes it about the most plastic character in the matrix.  Very exciting.</p>
<p>That is, it&#8217;s exciting <em>if</em> this really is a brachiosaurid.  Now as it happens, Matt was one of the reviewers for this paper (and by the way did an amazingly professional job of not telling me about it until it came out, the git).  He&#8217;s told me in email that he&#8217;s satisfied that <em>Qiaowanlong</em> really is a brachiosaur, and I hesitate to question that identification given that (A) unlike the authors I&#8217;ve never seen the material, and (B) unlike Matt, I&#8217;ve spent most of my brachiosaur-presacral quality time with dorsals rather than cervicals.  But, with that caveat, I&#8217;m not sure that a compelling case has <em>yet</em> been made for a brachiosaurian identity.</p>
<p>The authors cite three characters in support of a brachiosaurid identity:</p>
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<li>The most persuasive is the deeply excavated cervical neural spines.</li>
<li>Next is a transition in neural spine height: this is quite abrupt in &#8220;<em>Brachiosaurus</em>&#8221; <em>brancai</em> between cervicals 6 and 7, and also in <em>Sauroposeidon</em> &#8212; presumably also between C6 and C7, but that can&#8217;t be known for sure, since it&#8217;s only the assumption that this is the case that led to the identification of the four preserved <em>Sauroposeidon</em> cervicals as C5-C8 in the first place.  In <em>Qiaowanlong</em>, this transition is &#8220;much less pronounced&#8221;, with spines increasing in height by only 25% rather then 100% in the other taxa &#8212; and occurs between C8 and C9.  All in all, not really very similar to the condition in &#8220;<em>B</em>.&#8221; <em>brancai</em>.</li>
<li>The final character supporting the brachiosaurid identity of <em>Qiaowanlong</em> is the absence of an anterior centrodiapophyseal lamina.  As the authors point out, though, this lamina does exist in &#8220;<em>B</em>.&#8221; <em>brancai</em> and is absent only in <em>Sauroposeidon</em>; so if this is evidence of anything, it&#8217;s a synapomorphy of a clade uniting <em>Qiaowanlong</em> and <em>Sauroposeidon</em> to the absence of other brachiosaurs &#8212; something that seems very unlikely given the proportions of the vertebrae.</li>
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<p>Putting it all together, there seems to be only one convincing brachiosaur character cited; and that stands against several non-brachiosaur characters, most obviously the bifurcation of the neural spine and the low Elongation Index (centrum length divided by cotyle height) but also by a few other characters that are not discussed in the paper.  For example, Matt has previously noted that in brachiosaur cervicals, the diapophyses are more anteriorly positioned than the parapophyses whereas in diplodocids the opposite is the case: as shown in fig 2(b) above, C6 at least of <em>Qiaowanlong</em> resembles diplodocids in this respect.</p>
<p>To try to get more of a handle on this, I put together a comparative figure of the 8th and 9th cervicals of various sauropods:</p>
<div id="attachment_2008" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/comparison-of-sauropod-c8.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2008 " title="comparison-of-sauropod-c8-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/comparison-of-sauropod-c8-480px.jpeg" alt="8th/9th cervicals vertebrae of various sauropods, scaled to the same centrum length.  &#34;Brachiosaurus&#34; brancai, Sauroposeidon; Qiaowanlong, Diplodocus; Haplocanthosaurus, Camarasaurus" width="480" height="475" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">8th/9th cervicals vertebrae of various sauropods, scaled to the same centrum length.  From top to bottom and left to right: &#34;Brachiosaurus&#34; brancai, Sauroposeidon; Qiaowanlong, Diplodocus; Haplocanthosaurus, Camarasaurus.  Six sauropod vertebrae for the price of one!</p></div>
<p>Based on overall proportions, I don&#8217;t find it intuitively obvious that the <em>Qiaowanlong</em> (middle row, left) more closely resembles the brachiosaurs (top row) than it does the other three.</p>
<p>What does all this mean?  Probably nothing: most likely there are further reasons for the brachiosaurid identification of the new taxon, and lack of space prevented their explanation and illustration.  We can hope that the authors, having placed an initial brief description in Proc. B, will follow it up with a more comprehensive description and analysis in a journal that does not impose such tight length restrictions.  But for now at least, my feeling is that the case for a bifid brachiosaur has yet to be made.</p>
<p>Moving on &#8230; <em>Qiaowanlong</em> is also represented by some nice appendicular material: the entire right side of the pelvis (ilium, ischium and pubis).  The ilium certainly looks brachiosaury, so that is another bit of support for the systematic hypothesis, but the proportions of the pelvic bones are very odd:</p>
<div id="attachment_2011" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-qiaowanlong-pelvis-composite-left-lateral.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2011 " title="brachiosaurus-brancai-qiaowanlong-pelvis-composite-left-lateral-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/brachiosaurus-brancai-qiaowanlong-pelvis-composite-left-lateral-480px.jpeg" alt="Right pelvis of &#34;Brachiosaurus&#34; brancai (left), based on composite of Janensch's (1961) figures, and Qiaowanlong (from You and Li 2009: fig. 3a).  Scaled to same ilium length." width="480" height="319" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Right pelvis of &#34;Brachiosaurus&#34; brancai (left), based on composite of Janensch&#39;s (1961) figures, and Qiaowanlong (from You and Li 2009: fig. 3a).  Scaled to same ilium length.</p></div>
<p>You and Li (2009) describe their pelvis as having a &#8220;much reduced ischium&#8221;, but as is apparent by comparison with the pelvis of &#8220;<em>Brachiosaurus</em>&#8221; <em>brancai</em>, the ischium is in reasonable proportion to the ilium, and the oddity is more that the pubis is enormous.  So much so that it makes me feel a little ill looking at it, and it makes me wonder how certain it is that all three of these bones are from the same individual &#8212; sadly, the paper doesn&#8217;t discuss the association of the material.</p>
<p>[Not to flog a dead horse, but this kind of omission shows once more the perils of publishing new taxa in general-interest journals such as Proc. B that impose draconian length limits.  This paper just creeps onto page 7, and I simply don't believe that it's possible to do anything like justice to the description of a new taxon in that little space, especially when there is also geography, geology, phylogeny and discussion to be got through.  I don't want to go all This Is How To Do It, but I can't help remembering that Darren and I took 18 pages, nearly three times as long, to describe the single partial vertebra that is <em>Xenoposeidon</em> (Taylor and Naish 2007), and it's not as though that paper wastes a lot of words.  To give You and Li credit, they did squeeze in photos of a representative vertebra from all six cardinal directions, which is great; but only at the cost of the photos being too tiny to be much use.  Please, folks: send your new taxon descriptions to a proper descriptive journal, not to a tabloid!  &#60;/hobbyhorse&#62;]</p>
<p>Back on the Dinosaur Mailing List, B tH <a href="http://dml.cmnh.org/2009Sep/msg00078.html">asked</a> how big <em>Qiaowanlong</em> was.  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8233797.stm">According to the BBC</a>, the authors say that &#8220;the dinosaur would have been a relatively small sauropod about 12m long, 3m high, and weighing perhaps 10 tonnes&#8221;.  Can we confirm that?  Well, the excellently comprehensive table of measurements in the paper gives centrum lengths, not counting the condyle, totalling 267 cm for the seven vertebrae C5-C11.  Janensch (1950a:44) gave measurements for the corresponding vertebrae of &#8220;<em>Brachiosaurus</em>&#8221; <em>brancai</em> HMN SII totalling 577 cm, which is more than twice as long.  If <em>Qiaowanlong</em> was 267/577 = 0.46 times as long as HMN SII, which Janensch (1950b:102) gave as 22.46 m, then it would have been 10.4 m long; it&#8217;s not obvious how the authors got the larger figure of 12 m unless they had reason to think the neck was proportionally shorter than in HMN SII.  If <em>Qiaowanlong</em> was isometrically similar to HMN SII, then it was 0.46^3 = <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">0.99</span> 0.099 times as heavy.  Using my own in-press mass of 23337 kg for HMN SII, this would make <em>Qiaowanlong</em> only 2312 kg in mass &#8212; pretty pathetic for a sauropod.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for now.  I&#8217;d be the first to admit that there&#8217;s an awful lot of speculation in this post based on relatively little published information.  Hopefully You Hai-Lu will drop by and comment &#8212; I&#8217;ll be letting him know that I&#8217;ve posted this.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
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<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:3101px;width:1px;height:1px;">Janensch, Werner.  1950.  Die Wirbelsaule von Brachiosaurus brancai. Palaeontographica (Suppl. 7) 3: 27-93.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:3101px;width:1px;height:1px;">Janensch, Werner.  1950.  Die Skelettrekonstruktion von Brachiosaurus brancai.  Palaeontographica (Suppl. 7) 3: 97-103.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:3101px;width:1px;height:1px;">Janensch, Werner.  1961.  Die Gliedmaszen und Gliedmaszengurtel der Sauropoden der Tendaguru-Schichten.  Palaeontographica, suppl. 7 (1), teil 3, lief. 4: 177-235.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:3101px;width:1px;height:1px;">Taylor, Michael P. and Darren Naish.  2007.  An unusual new neosauropod dinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous Hastings Beds Group of East Sussex, England.  Palaeontology 50 (6): 1547-1564.  doi: 10.1111/j.1475-4983.2007.00728.x</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position:absolute;left:-10000px;top:3101px;width:1px;height:1px;">You, Hai-Lu, and Li, Da-Qing.  2009.  The first well-preserved Early Cretaceous brachiosaurid dinosaur in Asia.  Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences.  doi: 10.1098/rspb.2009.1278.</div>
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<li>Janensch, Werner.  1950.  Die Wirbelsaule von Brachiosaurus brancai. Palaeontographica (Suppl. 7) 3: 27-93.</li>
<li>Janensch, Werner.  1950.  Die Skelettrekonstruktion von Brachiosaurus brancai.  Palaeontographica (Suppl. 7) 3: 97-103.</li>
<li>Janensch, Werner.  1961.  Die Gliedmaszen und Gliedmaszengurtel der Sauropoden der Tendaguru-Schichten.  Palaeontographica, suppl. 7 (1), teil 3, lief. 4: 177-235.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/taylor-and-naish2007/TaylorNaish2007-xenoposeidon.pdf">Taylor, Michael P. and Darren Naish.  2007.  An unusual new neosauropod dinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous Hastings Beds Group of East Sussex, England.  Palaeontology 50 (6): 1547-1564.  doi: 10.1111/j.1475-4983.2007.00728.x</a></li>
<li>You, Hai-Lu, and Li, Da-Qing.  2009.  The first well-preserved Early Cretaceous brachiosaurid dinosaur in Asia.  Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences.  doi: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2009.1278">10.1098/rspb.2009.1278</a>.</li>
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<h1>And finally &#8230; two announcements!</h1>
<p>Traumador the Tyrannosaur has asked us to point out that over on ART Evolved (the palaeo-art blog), the next big art gallery is to be sauropod themed.  Details are <a href="http://blogevolved.blogspot.com/2009/09/novembers-upcoming-gallery.html">on the site</a>, so get over there and submit your sauropod art!</p>
<p>And Matt and I will shortly be teaming up with Andy Farke, <a href="http://openpaleo.blogspot.com/">the open-source paleontologist</a>, on a new project where we plan to actually <em>do</em> some of this <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/the-digital-future/">Shiny Digital Future</a> that we keep on talking about.  Andy will be announcing the details on Tuesday 8th September.  Mark the date well!  For now, I shall say no more &#8230;</p>
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<description><![CDATA[Aprovechando que iba a pasar unos días con mi sobrino, le he hecho un par de dinosaurios siguiendo l]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p style="text-align:justify;">Aprovechando que iba a pasar unos días con mi sobrino, le he hecho un par de dinosaurios siguiendo los patrones que encontré en <a href="http://www.facilisimo.com/foro/manualidades/?pagina=foro_ver-mensaje&#124;&#124;id=22799&#124;&#124;textoabuscar=&#124;&#124;ir=ultima">este foro</a>. Para darle un toque más colorido a uno de ellos le he cambiado la cresta y se la he puesto de piezas de fieltro de colores. Además, uno de ellos lleva dentro, aparte de la guata, un poco de papel celofán para que suene al apretarlo; el otro lleva un cascabel.</p>
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<description><![CDATA[Guest Blogger: Patrick Brennan The ever-charming, eminently capable Patrick Brennan graduated from t]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><h2 style="font-size:1.5em;"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3060" title="Picture 1" src="http://dennisr61684.wordpress.com/files/2009/07/picture-1.png?w=300" alt="Picture 1" width="216" height="211" />Guest Blogger: Patrick Brennan</h2>
<p><span style="font-style:normal;"><em>The ever-charming, eminently capable Patrick Brennan graduated from the University of Wisconsin with a Communications major and began his career in production with a Madison cable access show featuring shelter animals. After moving to Chicago, he worked various freelance crew gigs (&#8220;Anyone need a second second AD?&#8221;), and slowly worked his way into advertising through the Leap Partnership, BBDO, and the DDB dub room.  He got his first staff job at JWT, then moved on to Leo Burnett and high profile work for McDonald&#8217;s, Kellogg&#8217;s, Nintendo and Samsung.  Element 79 eventually wrangled him in as a Senior Producer where he applies his high standards for film to both television and interactive work.  He likes to bike, cook, travel and lavish attention on his wife and bull terrier.  He would also like to sell his condo.</em></span></p>
<p style="line-height:140%;">In the ad world, rarely will you see the gathering of more specialists, more experts in diverse fields, than you will at a broadcast commercial shoot. In order to create the perfect :30 world where every nuance is scrutinized (<a style="text-decoration:none;color:#5b211a;" title="case in point" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_L-KyRYCI" target="_blank">local cable TV ads notwithstanding</a>), every element from the carpet to the cat is discussed ad nauseum among the client, the agency, the director, and experts in the fields of carpets and cats.</p>
<p style="line-height:140%;"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3053" title="blueprints_main_level" src="http://dennisr61684.wordpress.com/files/2009/07/blueprints_main_level.jpg" alt="blueprints_main_level" width="240" height="160" />Due to this level of specialization, the TV shoot is often where advertisers spend most of their creative production dollar (and given the budgets our industry has seen lately, I use the singular form of dollar intentionally). In order to gain efficiencies of scale and stretch the production budget, the TV shoot has increasingly become the locus of all efforts to acquire material for other media. Thus, the TV shoot has become the headwaters for the flow of creative content. It has become the norm rather than the exception for agencies to shoot a TV spot while also acquiring assets for digital, stills for print, and the inevitable “making of” video that rarely sees the light of day (not unlike the video’s editor).</p>
<p style="line-height:140%;">Because production has become so integrated, the title “Broadcast Producer” is starting to go the way of the <a style="color:#5b211a;text-decoration:none;" title="Diplodocus" href="http://dinobase.gly.bris.ac.uk/frontend/dinobase_pageViewSpecies.php?id=897" target="_blank">Diplodocus</a> and <a style="color:#5b211a;text-decoration:none;" title="3/4&#34; tape" href="http://www.labguysworld.com/Tape-Umatic_003.jpg" target="_blank">¾” tape</a>. We now call ourselves “Content Producers” or “Creative Content Producers”. In some cases, our titles seem to cross over to other professions entirely, like “Content Architect” or “Creative Content Specialists” giving the impression that we bustle about the halls of ad agencies with stethoscopes and armloads of blueprints.</p>
<p style="line-height:140%;">Hopefully, unlike the Diplodocus, the producer has evolved. The resourcefulness and creativity required to be a good producer can be applied outside the Broadcast realm. It’s not <a style="color:#5b211a;text-decoration:none;" title="Aquaman" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman" target="_blank">Aquaman</a> fighting in space. There are new terms to learn, new shenanigans to call bullshit on, and auspiciously, new people to meet.</p>
<h5><span style="font-weight:normal;"><em>By Patrick Brennan, Senior Producer, </em></span><a href="http://www.element79.com"><span style="font-weight:normal;"><em>Element 79</em></span></a><span style="font-weight:normal;"><em>  Visit him at </em></span><a href="http://pangaeanamerican.wordpress.com/"><span style="font-weight:normal;"><em>pangaean-american.com</em></span></a></h5>
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<description><![CDATA[Sandi Toksvig and the British Museum this time, but first: I promised to let you know about Mike Pan]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Sandi Toksvig and the British Museum this time, but first: I promised to let you know about Mike Pannet’s book signing at WHSmith Mansfield. The author of <em>You’re coming with me Lad: Tales of a Yorkshire Bobby</em> [Hodder and Stoughton £12.99] will be in WHSmith to sign copies on July 24<sup>th</sup> from 12 noon to 2pm.</p>
<p><strong>A Comedy (?) of Errors.</strong></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-316" title="Melted" src="http://billpurdue.wordpress.com/files/2009/07/melted.jpg" alt="Melted" width="167" height="167" />I’m not sure what to make of Sandi Toksvig as a novelist ; I’ve just read one of her recent (2006) books – <em>Melted into Air</em> [Time Warner £6.99 9780751535433] which is set in a small town in Tuscany. I was hoping to find it quite funny.</p>
<p>Frances Angel – born with the surname Angelli – isn’t doing particularly well in her job as a theatrical impresario in England so her cousin Gina persuades her to take a break in the Italian village of Montecastello where she spent her earliest years. She tries to confront her past and find out what had happened to her two childhood friends after she was sent away by her parents to live with relatives in England. The only place to stay in the town is an art school which turns out to have a weird assortment of guests and proprietors who could do a good Italian version of Sybil and Basil Faulty. There is a darker side to the story: as very young girls, Frances and her two friends decided to announce that they had seen a vision when in actual fact there was no vision. This was immediately seized upon by the local priest as a good way to bring fame to the town and to further his career. One of her friends has been living under his “protection” ever since and it is suspected that he had something to do with the death of Frances’ other friend.</p>
<p>I have to admit that I nearly didn’t read this novel to the end. At times it didn’t seem to be getting anywhere and it wasn’t until at least three quarters of the way through that things really seemed to gel  as Frances and the other guests at the art school decide to put on a play for the whole town which will finally bring matters to a head. Perhaps my final comments on the book are that it is comical, but not especially funny and that it was like the curate’s egg – good in parts.  Watch a <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6400427198570848451" target="_blank">Google video here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Life at the Museum</strong></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-317" title="Dry store" src="http://billpurdue.wordpress.com/files/2009/07/dry-store.jpg" alt="Dry store" width="115" height="115" />Whenever I think of the <a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/" target="_blank">Natural History Museum</a> in London, I think of the giant skeleton of the dinosaur , <em>diplodocus carnegii </em>which greets visitors as they enter the building. Apparently this is not a real skeleton, but a cast of an original in Pittsburgh and has been there since 1905. It’s this and thousands of other fascinating insights into the running of the Natural History Museum which Richard Fortey writes so eloquently about in his <em>Dry Store Room No 1: the secret life of the Natural History Museum</em>[ HarperPerennial  £8.99 978-0007209897]. (NB the illustration is of the hardback edition). It’s an absorbing exploration of the building housing the museum with particular emphasis on the areas not normally seen by the public. Take the wet collections for example “pickled, preserved and potted zoology”: round glass jars containing all manner of fishes, lizards, crustaceans, snakes and many other types of creatures in alcohol or formaldehyde.</p>
<p>In another part of the book Mr Fortey talks about the variety of characters who have worked at the museum spending years discovering new species and deciding where they sit in the evolutionary heirarchy. Some have published great tomes on very specialised subjects. David Reid, for example is devoted to winkles or <em>littorina</em> and has spent the best part of his professional life so far studying them. As Mr Fortey says, “they are ideal subjects to winkle out the truth about evolution”.</p>
<p>I’m going to repeat myself and say once again that this book really is fascinating. It’s not a book to read quickly, but rather one to savour as the author takes you on a tour of the museum or delves into a bit of gossip about some of the characters working  there. It might get a little technical at times and there is a smattering of latin names, but stick with it. This book is well worth the effort.</p>
<p><strong>For Chick Lit fans….</strong></p>
<p>… and that doesn’t include me, but if you like a spot of that type of reading from time to time, have you tried Paige Toon’s new book <em>Chasing Daisy </em>[Simon and Schuster £6.99 9781847393906] which is just out? It has a globe- trotting motor racing theme. You can find out more about Ms Toon on <a href="http://books.simonandschuster.co.uk/Chasing-Daisy/Paige-Toon/9781847393906" target="_blank">Simon  &#38; Schuster’s website</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Another Odd Title.</strong></p>
<p>A short while ago I mentioned the Diagram prize which is awarded every year for the oddest book title . In the shortlists of the past year or two I don’t remember seeing this one: <em>Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America: A Guide to Field Identification</em>[Harry N. Abrams £9.95 978-0810955202] I’ve just discovered that this handy volume is on special offer in the latest <a href="http://www.bibliophilebooks.com/epages/bibliophilebooks.storefront" target="_blank">Bibliophile</a> catalogue for only £3.50. A snip!</p>
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<link>http://dinosaurcollector.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/diplodocus-2008-carnegie-collection-by-safari-ltd/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>plesiosauria</dc:creator>
<guid>http://dinosaurcollector.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/diplodocus-2008-carnegie-collection-by-safari-ltd/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Although the 2008 Diplodocus has been featured several times on this blog already, it has never been]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Although the 2008 <em>Diplodocus</em> has been featured several times on this blog already, it has never been reviewed, so it&#8217;s time to make amends with a photographic walkaround and short review.</p>
<p><img src="http://plesiosauria.com/dinotoyimage/July09/diplodocus08_safari2.jpg" alt="Diplodocus Carnegie" /></p>
<p>This is Safari&#8217;s second attempt at a <em>Diplodocus</em> and this version is a much improved affair. The overall appearance of the model is elegant and gracile, the slender neck and tail are held more or less horizontally (the tail suspended above the ground) and the legs are positioned so the animal is striding along with intent. At 55 cm (21.5 inches) the figure is very long, even with the head and neck turned at almost 90 degrees to the body and the tip of the extremely long tail coiled up at the end.</p>
<p><img src="http://plesiosauria.com/dinotoyimage/July09/diplodocus08_safari3.jpg" alt="Diplodocus Carnegie" /></p>
<p>There is a single thumb claw on each front foot and three claws on each hind foot, this makes a refreshing change to the generic five-clawed feet often portrayed in sauropods. The surface of the skin is rather bumpy and wrinkled. A sagging line of skin runs along each side of the body between the front and rear leg; this flabby feature is often present in Carnegie Collection sculptures although I as far as I&#8217;m aware it is speculative. Perhaps it is the sculptor&#8217;s calling card. There are several warty bumps on the back and base of the tail adding character and texture to piece, these are highlighted in deep green. Similar bumps or scutes are present in the recent <a href="http://dinosaurcollector.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/spinosaurus-2009-carnegie-collection-by-safari-ltd/">Carnegie Spinosaurus</a> but those are not highlighted as in the Dippy- cutbacks perhaps?</p>
<p><img src="http://plesiosauria.com/dinotoyimage/July09/diplodocus08_safari4.jpg" alt="Diplodocus Carnegie" /></p>
<p>The head is nicely sculpted with the mouth slightly open. The nostrils are positioned near the front of the skull in line with the current scientific consensus &#8211; older restorations of sauropods had the nostrils on the top of the head.</p>
<p><img src="http://plesiosauria.com/dinotoyimage/July09/diplodocus08_safari5.jpg" alt="Diplodocus Carnegie" /></p>
<p>The back is green-blue and there is a sinuous grey line extending along the entire length of the animal. The colour is paler below the line. In addition to the aforementioned bumps, there are some additional highlights. The throat is picked out in dashing blue and parts of the head too. The curled tip of the tail is striped in blue and green, perhaps the tail is being used as a communication devise as speculated in &#8216;Walking With Dinosaurs&#8217;.</p>
<p><img src="http://plesiosauria.com/dinotoyimage/July09/diplodocus08_safari1.jpg" alt="Diplodocus Carnegie" /></p>
<p>In conclusion, this figure is both impressive and charming due to its combination of large size and attention to detail/ personal touches.</p>
<p>Available from <a href="http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=405401/740.0">Safari.com (here) </a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012SCMJG?ie=UTF8&#38;tag=theplesdire-20&#38;linkCode=as2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=390957&#38;creativeASIN=B0012SCMJG">Amazon.com (here)</a></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Sauropods were corn-on-the-cob, not shish kebabs]]></title>
<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/sauropods-were-corn-on-the-cob-not-shish-kebabs/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
<guid>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/sauropods-were-corn-on-the-cob-not-shish-kebabs/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[This is corn on the cob: Corn on the cob, in cross section. Stolen from http://www.istockphoto.com/f]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>This is corn on the cob:</p>
<div id="attachment_1778" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 390px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/istockphoto_214165-corn-cob-cross-section.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1778" title="istockphoto_214165-corn-cob-cross-section" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/istockphoto_214165-corn-cob-cross-section.jpg" alt="Corn on the cob, in cross section, stolen from http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/214165/2/istockphoto_214165-co rn-cob-cross-section.jpg" width="380" height="303" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Corn on the cob, in cross section.  Stolen from http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/214165/2/istockphoto_214165-co rn-cob-cross-section.jpg</p></div>
<p>This is a shish kebab:</p>
<div id="attachment_1779" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/shish.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1779" title="shish-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/shish-480px.jpg" alt="Shish kebab.  Stolen from http://www.mediterraneancafe-flatiron.com/images/shish.jpg" width="480" height="320" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Shish kebab.  Stolen from http://www.mediterraneancafe-flatiron.com/images/shish.jpg</p></div>
<p>Most tetrapods are like shish kebabs: a whole lot of meat stuck on a proportionally tiny skeleton.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, you can look at the human and cow <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">neck</span> torso cross-sections in <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/sauropods-were-tacos-not-corn-dogs/">Matt&#8217;s last post</a>, or check out this ostrich-neck cross-section from his 2003 <em>Paleobiology</em> paper:</p>
<div id="attachment_1781" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/wedel2003a-fig2-ostrich-neck-cross-section.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1781" title="Wedel2003a-fig2-ostrich-neck-cross-section-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/wedel2003a-fig2-ostrich-neck-cross-section-480px.jpeg" alt="Ostrich neck in cross section, CT scan.  From Wedel (2003a: fig. 2)" width="480" height="388" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ostrich neck in cross section, CT scan.  From Wedel (2003a: fig. 2)</p></div>
<p>Remember that this is a freakin&#8217; ostrich &#8212; of all extant animals, one of the ones with a most extreme long, skinny neck.  And yet, if sauropods were muscled like ostriches, then their necks would have looked like this in cross section:</p>
<div id="attachment_1783" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/wedel2003a-fig2-sauropod-neck-cross-section.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1783" title="Wedel2003a-fig2-sauropod-neck-cross-section-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/wedel2003a-fig2-sauropod-neck-cross-section-480px.jpeg" alt="Putative shish kebab-style sauropod neck in cross section.  Ostrich soft-tissue from Wedel (2003a: fig. 2), Diplodocus vertebra cross-section from Paul (1997: fig. 4) scaled to match size of ostrich vertebra" width="480" height="388" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Putative shish kebab-style sauropod neck in cross section.  Ostrich soft-tissue from Wedel (2003a: fig. 2), Diplodocus vertebra cross-section from Paul (1997: fig. 4) scaled to match size of ostrich vertebra</p></div>
<p>And soft-tissue reconstructions would have to look like this:</p>
<div id="attachment_1785" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/paul1998-fig1f-diplodocus-fat-neck.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1785" title="Paul1998-fig1f-diplodocus-fat-neck-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/paul1998-fig1f-diplodocus-fat-neck-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus with its neck as fat as an ostrich's.  Modified from Paul (1998: fig. 1F)" width="480" height="114" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus with its neck as fat as an ostrich&#39;s.  Modified from Paul (1998: fig. 1F)</p></div>
<p>Which, happily, no-one is suggesting.  Instead, published reconstructions of sauropod neck soft-tissue are startlingly emaciated.  As exhibit A, I call this pair of Greg Paul cross-sections:</p>
<div id="attachment_1787" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/paul1997-fig4-sauropod-neck-cross-sections.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1787" title="Paul1997-fig4-sauropod-neck-cross-sections-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/paul1997-fig4-sauropod-neck-cross-sections-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus and Brachiosaurus neck cross-sections, showing very light musculature.  From Paul (1997: fig. 4)" width="480" height="694" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus and Brachiosaurus neck cross-sections, showing very light musculature.  From Paul (1997: fig. 4)</p></div>
<p>(Yes, the <em>Diplodocus</em> on the left is the one I used in the photoshopped ostrich cross-section above.  It&#8217;s instructive to compare Paul&#8217;s original with the What If It Was Like A Big Ostrich version.)</p>
<p>Paul&#8217;s reconstructions seem to be widely considered <em>too</em> lightly muscled.  But even the very careful and rigorous more recent reconstructions of Daniela Schwarz and her colleague show a neck much, much thinner than that of the ostrich:</p>
<div id="attachment_1789" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/schwarzetal2007-fig7a-diplodocus-cross-sections.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1789" title="SchwarzEtAl2007-fig7a-diplodocus-cross-sections-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/schwarzetal2007-fig7a-diplodocus-cross-sections-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus neck cross-sections.  From Schwarz et al. (2007: fig. 7a)" width="480" height="425" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus neck cross-sections.  From Schwarz et al. (2007: fig. 7a)</p></div>
<p>Although Schwarz has put a lot more soft tissue onto the neck vertebrae than Paul did, it is still a tiny proportion of what we see in extant animals &#8212; even the ostrich, remember, which has a super-thin neck compared with pretty much anything else alive today.  If sauropod necks were muscled as heavily as those of, say, cows, then the soft tissue would pretty much reach down to the ground.  But they weren&#8217;t: they were more like corn on the cob, with a broad core of skeleton and relatively little in the way of delicious edibles festooned about it.</p>
<p>So why is this?  Why does everyone agree that sauropod necks were much less heavily muscled than those of any extant animal?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a simple matter of scaling.  A really big ostrich might have a neck 1 m long.  (Actually, ostriches don&#8217;t get that big, but let&#8217;s pretend they do because it makes the maths easier).  If the <em>x</em> meter-long neck of a sauropod was just a scaled-up ostrich neck, then it would be <em>x</em> times longer, <em>x</em> times taller and <em>x</em> times wider, for a total of <em>x</em>^3 times as voluminous and therefore <em>x</em>^3 times as heavy.  But the cross-sectional area of the tension members that support it is only <em>x</em> times taller and <em>x</em> times wider, for a total of <em>x</em>^2 times the strength.  In total, then, the neck&#8217;s mass/strength is <em>x</em>^3/<em>x</em>^2 = <em>x</em> times as great as in the ostrich.  (The sauropod neck&#8217;s mass also acts further out from the fulcrum by an additional factor of <em>x</em>, but that is cancelled by the fact that the tension in the neck also acts <em>x</em> times higher above the fulcrum.)</p>
<p>It seems intuitively obvious (which is is code for &#8220;I have no way to prove&#8221;) that you can&#8217;t reasonably expect the neck muscles of a giant ostrich to work ten times as hard as they do in their lesser cousins, which is what you&#8217;d need to do for the 10 m neck of, say, <em>Sauroposeidon</em>.  So simple isometric scaling won&#8217;t get the job done, and you need to restructure the neck.</p>
<p>But how?  Surely just reducing all the muscle around the vertebrae can&#8217;t help?  No indeed &#8212; but that is not really what sauropods were doing.  If you look at the typical sauropod-neck life restoration, you&#8217;ll see that the proportional thickness of the neck is actually not too dissimilar to that of an ostrich &#8212; rather thicker, in fact.  If you scaled an ostrich neck up to sauropod size and compared it with a real sauropod neck, you would find not that the soft tissue was too fat, but that the vertebrae were too thin.</p>
<p>And so we come to it at last: rather than thinking of sauropods as having reduced the amount of soft-tissue hanging on the cervical vertebrae, we do better to think of them as having kept a roughly similar soft-tissue profile to that of an an ostrich, but <em>enlarging the vertebrae within the soft-tissue envelope</em>.  Of course if you just blindly made the vertebrae taller and wider, they would become heavier in proportion, which would defeat the whole purpose of the exercise &#8212; but as everyone who reads this blog surely knows by now, sauropod cervicals were extensively lightened by <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/tutorial-3-pneumaticity/">pneumaticity</a>.  By bringing air into the center of the neck, they were effectively able to displace bone, muscle and ligament away from the centre, so that they acted with greater mechanical advantage: higher epaxial tension members, lower hypaxial compression members, and more laterally positioned paraxials.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a rather brilliant system &#8212; using the same volume of bone to achieve greater strength by displacing it outwards and filling the center with air (and, in doing so, also displacing soft tissue outwards).  And it will be hauntingly familiar to anyone who loves birds, because it is of course exactly what birds (and pterosaurus) have done in their long bones: the hollow humeri of flying vertebrates famously allow them to attain greater strength &#8212; specifically, resistance to bending &#8212; for the same volume and mass of bone.  It&#8217;s a neat trick when done with long bones, but it takes a truly awesome taxon to do it with the neck.</p>
<p>So maybe sauropods were not corn on the cob after all.  Maybe they were Hostess Twinkies.</p>
<div id="attachment_1794" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 423px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/twinkie_070918_ms1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1794" title="twinkie_070918_ms1" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/twinkie_070918_ms1.jpg" alt="Hostess Twinkie.  Not truly pneumatic, as the internal cavity is filled with adipose tissue rather than air, but do you have any idea how difficult it is to find good images of hollow junk food?" width="413" height="310" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hostess Twinkie.  Not truly pneumatic, as the internal cavity is filled with adipose tissue rather than air, but do you have any idea how difficult it is to find good images of hollow junk food?  Stolen from http://dixiedining.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/twinkie_070918_ms1.jpg</p></div>
<h1>And now for something completely different</h1>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/omg-mpt-phd/">finished my Ph.D</a> at the University of Portsmouth, what am I going to do with the rest of my scientific life?  I&#8217;ve always said that I have no intention of going into palaeo full time: my knowledge is far too narrow for that, so that even if paid jobs were not in insanely short supply, I wouldn&#8217;t stand much chance of getting one.  And in any case, I&#8217;d hate to get into the all-too-common situation of being up against a friend for a position we both wanted. Throw in the fact that I really enjoy my computer-programming day-job and it seems pretty clear that what I need is an unpaid affiliation that lets me get on with lovely research.</p>
<p>Well: I am absolutely delighted to announce that, as of last month, I am an Honorary Research Associate in the <a href="http://www.es.ucl.ac.uk/">Department of Earth Sciences</a> at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_London">UCL</a>.  It&#8217;s not just that UCL is such a well-respected institution &#8212; see that Wikipedia article for some details &#8212; more importantly, it&#8217;s where <a href="http://www.es.ucl.ac.uk/people/upchurch.htm">Paul Upchurch</a> hangs out, as Senior Lecturer in Palaeobiology.  Sauropod fans will be familiar with Paul&#8217;s characteristically detailed and careful work, from his pioneering work on sauropod phylogeny (Upchurch 1995, 1998), through his and John Martin&#8217;s indispensible <em>Cetiosaurus</em> makeovers (Upchurch and Martin 2002, 2003) to the state-of-the art review that he lead-authored for <em>Dinosauria II</em> (Upchurch et al. 2004) and the Tokyo <em>Apatosaurus</em> monograph (Upchurch et al. 2005).  What many of you won&#8217;t know is what an excellent collaborator he is &#8212; quick, conscientious, insightful and diplomatic.  We&#8217;ve already collaborated on a few short papers (<a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/sorting-out-cetiosaurus-nomenclature/">Upchurch et al. 2009</a> and a couple of Phylocode companion-volume chapters that are in press), and I hope there will be more in the future.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
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<li>Paul, Gregory S.  1997.  Dinosaur models: the good, the bad, and using them to estimate the mass of dinosaurs.  pp. 129-154 in: D. L. Wolberg, E. Stump, and G. D. Rosenberg (eds.), DinoFest International: Proceedings of a Symposium Sponsored by Arizona State University.  Academy of Natural Sciences, Philadelphia.</li>
<li>Paul, Gregory S.  1998.  Terramegathermy and Cope&#8217;s Rule in the land of titans.  Modern Geology 23: 179-217.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app52/app52-167.pdf">Schwarz, Daniela, Eberhard Frey and Christian A. Meyer.  2007. Pneumaticity and soft-tissue reconstructions in the neck of diplodocid and dicraeosaurid sauropods.  Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 52(1): 167-188.</a></li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul.  1995.  The evolutionary history of sauropod dinosaurs.  Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London Series B, 349: 365-390.</li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul.  1998.  The phylogenetic relationships of sauropod dinosaurs.  Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, 124: 43-103.</li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul and John Martin.  2002.  The Rutland <em>Cetiosaurus</em>: the anatomy and relationships of a Middle Jurassic British sauropod dinosaur.  Palaeontology, 45(6): 1049-1074.</li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul and John Martin.  2003.  The anatomy and taxonomy of <em>Cetiosaurus</em> (Saurischia, Suaropoda) from the Middle Jurassic of England.  Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 23(1): 208-231.</li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul, Paul M. Barrett and Peter Dodson.  2004.  Sauropoda. pp. 259-322 in D. B. Weishampel, P. Dodson and H. Osmólska (eds.), The Dinosauria, 2nd edition.  University of California Press, Berkeley and Los Angeles.  861 pp.</li>
<li>Upchurch, Paul, Yukimitsu Tomida, and Paul M. Barrett.  2005.  A new specimen of <em>Apatosaurus ajax</em> (Sauropoda: Diplodocidae) from the Morrison Formation (Upper Jurassic) of Wyoming, USA.  National Science Museum Monographs No. 26.  Tokyo.  ISSN 1342-9574.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/pubs/upchurch-et-al-2009/UpchurchEtAl2009-BZN-case-3472-cetiosaurus-type-species-oxoniensis.pdf">Upchurch, Paul, John Martin, and Michael P. Taylor.  2009.  Case 3472: <em>Cetiosaurus</em> Owen, 1841 (Dinosauria, Sauropoda): proposed conservation of usage by designation of <em>Cetiosaurus oxoniensis</em> Phillips, 1871 as the type species.  Bulletin of Zoological Nomenclature 66(1): 51-55.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://sauroposeidon.net/Wedel_2003a_sauropod-pneumaticity.pdf">Wedel, Mathew J.  2003.  Vertebral pneumaticity, air sacs, and the physiology of sauropod dinosaurs.  Paleobiology 29(2): 243-255.</a></li>
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<link>http://kustapabio.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/diplodocus/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>kustapabio</dc:creator>
<guid>http://kustapabio.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/diplodocus/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Dinosaurus ini bernama Diplodocus. Jaman hidup Dinosaurus ini adalah pada saat zaman jurassic. Makan]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Dinosaurus ini bernama Diplodocus. Jaman hidup  <a href="http://id.shvoong.com/tags/dinosaurus/"><span>Dinosaurus</span></a> ini adalah pada saat zaman jurassic.<br />
Makanan:</p>
<p>Tumbuhan (  <a href="http://id.shvoong.com/tags/sauropodomorpha/"><span>Sauropodomorpha</span></a>). Diplodocus memakan daun konifer, pakis, lumut, dan tanaman rawa. Makanannya tidak dikunyah melainkan langsung ditelan. Diplodocus suka menelan batu untuk menhancurkan daun di dalam perutnya. Diplodocus dapat mati jika tidak makan secara terus menerus.<br />
Penemu:<br />
Samuel Williston dan Otinel Marsh dan pada tahun 1887. Diplodocus banyak ditemukan di Rocky mountain, Utah, Wyoming, dan Colorado Amerika.<br />
Cara berkembangbiak:<br />
Bertelur. Telur diletakan sembarangan saat Diplodocus berjalan-jalan.<br />
Panjang badan:<br />
Panjang ekor 8m. Panjang leher 14m. Diplodocus dijuluki sebagai dinosaurus terpanjang.ekornya yang panjang berguna saat menyabet musuhnya dan sabetannya sangat mematikan.<br />
Berat Badan:<br />
11 Ton. Dengan berat segitu, Diplodocus dikatakan sebagai dinosaurus yang cukup ringan. Kakinya mirip seperti dengan kaki gajah sehingga sama seperti pilar yang kuat yang menopang tubuh Diplodocus. Jika marah, ia akan berdiri dengan kedua kekinya dan pastinya sangat menyeramkan.<br />
Wajahnya:<br />
Kepala Diplodocus sangat kecil dibandingkan dengan badannya. Hanya sepanjang 60cm. Mata terletak di belakang kepala sehingga diplodocus dapat melihat ke segala arah moncongnya pendek dengan gigi-gigi kecil yang mirip dengan pensil. Gigi-gigi tersebut berkumpul rapat di dekat moncong. Otak diplodocus kecil, sehingga diplodocus dikatakan dinosaurus yang bodoh.</p>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/sauropods-were-tacos-not-corn-dogs/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Matt Wedel</dc:creator>
<guid>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/sauropods-were-tacos-not-corn-dogs/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[This is a taco. This is a corn dog. Vertebra outlined in green. Click for unmarked original. Here]]></description>
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<p>This is a taco.</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/corndog.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1251" title="Corndog" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/corndog.jpg" alt="Corndog" width="266" height="247" /></a></p>
<p>This is a corn dog.</p>
<div id="attachment_1253" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 420px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/human-abdomen-xs.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1253" title="human abdomen xs trace" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/human-abdomen-xs-trace.jpg" alt="Vertebra outlined in green. Click for unmarked original." width="410" height="359" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Vertebra outlined in green. Click for unmarked original.</p></div>
<p>Here&#8217;s a cross-section of a human. In the terms of fast food, people are corndogs. Most of us even have an outer ring of yellow adipose &#8216;breading&#8217;.</p>
<div id="attachment_1255" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/cross-section-of-cow-through-rumen.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1255" title="Cross-section of cow through rumen trace" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/cross-section-of-cow-through-rumen-trace.jpg" alt="Vertebra oulined in red. Click for unmarked original." width="480" height="363" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Vertebra oulined in red. Click for unmarked original.</p></div>
<p>Here&#8217;s a cross-section of a cow. In an example of function following form, cows are, and often become, corndogs.</p>
<p>Note that in both the human and the cow the spaces between the neural spine and transverse processes are <em>completely filled</em> with back muscles, which in fact bulge out beyond the tips of the neural spine, as we also saw <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/a-new-view-of-sauropod-vertebrae/">here</a>. This despite the common paleoart convention of presenting dinosaurs as thin layers of skin conforming perfectly to the underlying skeleton. Just Say No to shrink-wrapped sauropods!</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-torso-xs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1256" title="Diplodocus torso xs" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-torso-xs.jpg" alt="Diplodocus torso xs" width="453" height="433" /></a></p>
<p>Here is Figure 17 from Holland (1910), one of the most badass scientific smackdowns ever published, in which Holland wiped the floor with Hay, Tornier, and the idea of sprawling sauropods. On the left are torso skeletons of three lizards and a croc; on the right is an anterior dorsal with articulated ribs from <em>Diplodocus</em>. As you can see, it&#8217;s a taco, and its taconic form would be perfected if it could roll supine.</p>
<p>The point of the post is not that sauropods had deep, slab-sided bodies. We&#8217;ve <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/supercrocs-sidekick/">covered that before</a>. The point is that sauropod torsos are seriously weird. In mammals, the dorsal ribs arch up and out, away from the vertebra, before sweeping around to define the anterior body wall.  In lizards, the proximal part of each rib sticks out sideways. In sauropods, the ribs point down. This is mainly because the vertebrae are FREAKIN&#8217; HUGE compared to the size of the body. Whereas in the mammals and lizards the dorsal vertebrae are titchy little things that span a small fraction of the width of the torso, in <em>Diplodocus</em> and other sauropods the dorsal vertebrae account for about half. (The cow cross-section missed the transverse processes, so that vert looks narrower than it actually is.)</p>
<p>This is relevant when we think about the function of pneumaticity. When I write that <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/x-men-origins-pneumaticity/">pneumaticity lightened vertebrae</a>, I usually mean relative to that same vertebra if it wasn&#8217;t pneumatized. But we could also ask if the pneumatic vertebra is lighter than a vertebra from a similar-sized animal that lacks pneumaticity&#8211;except that, for big sauropods, there are no similar-sized terrestrial animals without pneumaticity to compare.</p>
<p>Imagine that in a big sauropod the dorsal vertebrae are three times as wide and three times as tall as they would be in a similar-sized mammal. They should weigh nine times more. But let&#8217;s also assume that the vertebrae of the sauropod are 85% air by volume, which is in fact pretty typical for Early Cretaceous brachiosaurids. The mass of the dorsal column relative to that of the mammal is then 9 x 0.15 = 1.35, a little heavier, but not much (I&#8217;m assuming the length of the torso is the same in the two animals). Bigger bones mean better lever arms for the muscles and lower bending stresses on the ribs, which can function more like curtains and less like cantilevered beams.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of much published discussion of this stuff as it relates to sauropods, but it seems like it might be important.</p>
<p><strong>Reference</strong></p>
<p>Holland, W.J. 1910. A review of some recent criticisms of the restorations of sauropod dinosaurs existing in the museums of the United States, with special reference to that of<em> Diplodocus carnegiei</em> [sic] in the Carnegie Museum. American Naturalist 44:259-283.</p>
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<link>http://getdancey.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/toby-triumph-and-the-diplodocus/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<guid>http://getdancey.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/toby-triumph-and-the-diplodocus/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[We work in in the top floor of a building that looks like it&#8217;s trying to be a warehouse. Perha]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>We work in in the top floor of a building that looks like it&#8217;s trying to be a warehouse.  Perhaps it is a warehouse, and maybe I haven&#8217;t met enough warehouses.  It has some wooden floors I like, big spaces, some pillars and white walls.</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/tobytrimpuh" target="_Blank">@tobytriumph</a> is coming to draw on the walls.  He has a website unsurprisingly called <a href="www.tobytriumph.co.uk" target="_blank">tobytriumph.com</a> and did the illustrations for <a>hopfarm.com</a>which are nice.  We got asked for suggestions.  I would like a <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">diplodocus</span> stegosaurus.  I have drawn him with some shoes.</p>
<p><a href="http://getdancey.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/dinosaur.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-433" title="dinosaur" src="http://getdancey.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/dinosaur.jpg" alt="dinosaur" width="480" height="305" /></a></p>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/blog-posts-papers-and-the-brave-new-digital-world-your-thoughts-are-welcome/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Matt Wedel</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[A new perspective, or the same old thing? Brachiosaurus and friends from here (hat tip to Ville Sink]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div id="attachment_1640" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 488px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/whoa-dude.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1640" title="010607BER307" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/whoa-dude.jpg" alt="A new perspective, or the same old thing?" width="478" height="717" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A new perspective, or the same old thing?</p></div>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>Brachiosaurus </em>and friends from <a href="http://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article1004122/Groessenwahn_im_Dinosaurier_Reich.html">here </a>(hat tip to <a href="http://dotsindeeptime.blogspot.com/2009/05/putting-brachiosaurus-into-perspective.html">Ville Sinkkonen</a>).</p>
<p>In an e-mail with explicit permission to quote, our colleague <a href="http://musom.marshall.edu/anatomy/holliday/">Casey Holliday</a> sent the following thoughts about our <a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">new paper</a> and the subsequent <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/taylor-et-al-2009-on-neck-posture/">ten days of related blogging</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know guys. I like your blogs, and your papers are fine. And I liked this paper. And I&#8217;m a fan.  But it looks to me that you blogged about far more data, in- or not in support of your paper than you actually presented in your paper. So,&#8230;wtf? The posts on Dinomorph far exceeded your (or any) published rebuke. Your explanation (and honorable erred parts) of the semicircular canal data also exceeded that actual published part too, with extra photos, description etc. (is that error going to be OA published too?) Also additional pix of necks (e.g., Nigersaurus), and not only from sauropods that would have<br />
potentially bettered the original pub. So what&#8217;s fair? Why weren&#8217;t<br />
these data also included in the publication? Maybe it&#8217;s not my business and was taken up in review&#8230;I don&#8217;t know. Frankly, none of this blog stuff really counts in the peer-reviewed world of &#8220;real&#8221; publications. Its not like this blogging and comments all count as Supplementary Data either. But also, I&#8217;m obviously here commenting on it, so also crossing into the fray&#8230;But who really cares about all this discussion? Its no different than the DML or any other noise in the internet world (or is it). Similar to what Paul Barrett was posting on Tet Zoo&#8230;what counts? Why take up arguments here, when they should (maybe?likely?) be taken up more formally and privately.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to air all this additional data and unreviewed<br />
opinion, then I think this discussion is important.</p>
<p>I think this phenomenon of the sauropod neck paper is really<br />
interesting. We have 3 scientists that published a paper, and then, thanks to their current blogosphere cred, basically unleashed a hype not seen in this way previously that I can remember. Maybe that&#8217;s the interesting part? and kudos. But interestingly&#8230;we&#8217;re seeing this intersection of traditional publication (OA or not), blogosphere description, and perhaps, almost certainly, excellent self-promotion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a fan. I think this paper is generally solid. But I&#8217;m<br />
particularly interested in this phenomenon and hope this is a fair<br />
place to raise it.</p></blockquote>
<p>The comment field is open, and we SV-POW!sketeers are going to refrain from commenting for a couple of days to let the conversation develop unfettered.</p>
<p>We are genuinely curious to know what you think.</p>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/what-heads-tell-us-about-necks-redux/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Matt Wedel</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[I Cannot Brain Today, I Have the Dumb Man, I hate making mistakes. The only thing worse than making ]]></description>
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<p>Man, I hate making mistakes. The only thing worse than making mistakes is making them in public, and the only thing worse than <em>that </em>is finding them in published papers when it&#8217;s too late to do anything about them. About the only consolation left&#8211;if you&#8217;re lucky&#8211;is getting to be the one to rat yourself out (<a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/this-just-in-we-are-idiots/">we have to do this a lot</a>). So here goes.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/fig4-head-and-neck-angles.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1618" title="fig4-head-and-neck-angles 480" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/fig4-head-and-neck-angles-480.jpeg" alt="fig4-head-and-neck-angles 480" width="480" height="243" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Neck angle FAIL</p></div>
<p>In our figure 4 (from Taylor et al. 2009) we showed the skulls of three sauropodomorphs, <em>Massospondylus</em>, <em>Camarasaurus</em>, and <em>Diplodocus</em>, posed with <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/what-heads-tell-us-about-necks/">horizontal semicircular canals</a> (HSCCs) level, angled 30 degrees above horizontal, and angled 20 degrees below horizontal, as it is written (by Duijm 1951). We also showed the angle of the occipital condyle when the HSCCs are level; if the craniocervical joint was in osteologically neutral pose (ONP), that line would indicate the angle of the anterior cervicals.</p>
<p>Trouble is, we put the neck lines for <em>Diplodocus </em>and <em>Camarasaurus </em>in the wrong places.</p>
<p>As any idiot can see from<a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/slideshow.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0001230&#38;imageURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0001230.g001"> Sereno et al. (2008: fig 1)</a>, the brain, brainstem, and occipital condyle form a line that runs from roughly the upper part of the orbit (in lateral see-through view) out the back of the head. Now if you look at our fig. 4 you&#8217;ll see that the ONP lines for <em>Camarasaurus </em>and <em>Diplodocus </em>are much too inclined, so that if the brain was in line with the anterior neck&#8211;which it should be, in ONP&#8211;it would be sticking out the back of the head.</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t make sense, just look at the above illustration, imagine the brain and spinal cord in a straight line parallel to the black neck line but also dorsal to it, and you&#8217;ll see that the brain would be outside the skull. Those incorrect neck lines don&#8217;t represent impossible postures, but they don&#8217;t represent ONP, either.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/sauropodomorph-head-figure-redone.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1620" title="Sauropodomorph head figure redone 480" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/sauropodomorph-head-figure-redone-480.jpg" alt="Sauropodomorph head figure redone 480" width="480" height="243" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Taxonomic variation WIN!</p></div>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here&#8217;s a corrected up version of the figure to show what I mean. The black lines are still the ONP neck lines, and now I&#8217;ve put in shadowy necks at +30 and -20 to go with the shadowy heads. The 50 degree spans marked out by the shadowy necks are the ranges within which the neck could articulate in ONP with skulls stuck in the 50-degree &#8220;Duijm window&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Caution: it is very easy to misread the shadowy necks as showing a range of movement within an individual; in fact, the neck lines are &#8216;anchored&#8217; to the skulls in ONP as the skulls rotate through the 50 degrees allowed by the HSCCs. They are not individual movement but the possible range of taxonomic variation in HSCC orientation according to Duijm (1951).</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Worth noting here is the likelihood that <em>Massospondylus </em>had a more elevated neck than <em>any </em>of the neosauropods studied so far&#8211;certainly a finding at odds with the <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/necks-the-big-picture-because-there-are-other-animals-besides-sauropods/">traditional depictions</a> of basal sauropodomorphs. (It is just a likelihood, though, since the top, neck-wise, of <em>Massospondylus</em>&#8217;s Duijm window overlaps with the windows of the other taxa a bit.)</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/four-o-pods.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1624" title="Four-o-pods 480" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/four-o-pods-480.jpg" alt="Nigersaurus, buddy, why so down?" width="480" height="194" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Nigersaurus, buddy, why so down?</p></div>
<p>In this version I&#8217;ve gone one step farther and included <em>Nigersaurus</em> (modified from Sereno et al. (2008: fig 1). <em>Nigersaurus </em>differs from <em>Diplodocus </em>in the angle of the face from the HSCCs and occipital condyle, not in the angle between the HSCCs and the occipital condyle, which is remarkably similar in <em>Camarasaurus</em>, <em>Diplodocus</em>, and <em>Nigersaurus</em>. This suggests that <em>Nigersaurus </em>held its head differently than other sauropods, but not necessarily its neck.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, though, that the difference in facial angle between <em>Diplodocus</em> and <em>Nigersaurus </em>is less than 50 degrees, and that some of the head postures in the respective Duijm windows of the two taxa are identical. So we can&#8217;t say for certain that <em>Nigersaurus </em>held its head differently than <em>Diplodocus</em>; it is possible that they held their heads at the same angle and that <em>Nigersaurus </em>just carried its HSCCs at a different angle. If that were the case, the neck of <em>Nigersaurus </em>would have been more inclined than that of <em>Diplodocus</em>. I&#8217;m not arguing that that&#8217;s likely&#8211;it seems perfectly plausible that the two taxa might have held their necks similarly and their heads differently, as suggested above&#8211;I&#8217;m just pointing out the <em>very </em>wide range of possibilities allowed by the data. To reiterate one of the points of the paper, HSCCs aren&#8217;t useless for determining habitual head posture, they just can&#8217;t narrow things down very far on their own.</p>
<p>Also note that some of the neck postures allowed by the Duijm window have the anterior cervicals running down, below horizontal, not up. And many of the allowed neck postures for the neosauropods are close to horizontal. So, we were wrong and HSCCs + occipital condyles show that most sauropods held their necks close to level and not strongly elevated after all, right?</p>
<h4>Onward and Upward, or Down in Flames?</h4>
<p>Not so fast. Remember that all of the neck lines in the above figures show the angle of the anterior neck if the neck was in ONP with the skull. But Vidal et al. (1986) found that the skull is habitually flexed on the neck, even in lizards, and we have since verified this for salamanders, turtles, and more. And sometimes the flexion is dramatic.</p>
<p>Our <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/images/figures/fig1-lepus-capensis.jpeg">figure 1</a> (from Taylor et al. 2009) shows the cranium, cervicals, and first few dorsals from a hare in ONP and in the posture shown by <a href="http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/vidaletal1986-fig4b-rabbit1.jpeg">Vidal et al. (1986: fig. 4b)</a>. The difference between the anteriorly-directed ONP pose and the backward-leaning Vidal-compliant pose is striking. I measured the angle between the cervical column and the maxillary toothrow to be ~110 degrees in the ONP pose and ~70 degrees in the Vidal-compliant pose (try it yourself with Paint or Photoshop, or download some <a href="http://www.gimp.org/">free image manipulation software</a>). That means the head is flexed on the neck by <em>40 degrees!</em> That is a big angle. If sauropods did the same, you could take the neck lines shown above and crank them down by 40 degrees (remember that the heads are &#8220;fixed&#8221; into the 50-degree Duijm windows allowed by the HSCCs), which would make <a href="http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/natural2-bones.jpeg">Mike&#8217;s elevated </a><em><a href="http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/natural2-bones.jpeg">Diplodocus</a> </em>look not just achievable, but perhaps even conservative.</p>
<p>Where does all that leave us? In sauropods for which HSCC orientation is known, putting the HSCCs level the anterior neck is still inclined, and even with the HSCCs angled 20 degrees down the ONP neck would only be slightly below horizontal, and if the head was Vidal-compliant (strongly flexed on the neck), the neck would have to be above horizontal. So heads still tell us about necks, and in particular they tell us that the necks angled up. Our neck lines for <em>Camarasaurus </em>and <em>Diplodocus </em>are not correct for ONP, but probably represent attainable postures. My first head &#8216;n necks post has the angles too exaggeraged for ONP, too, but again all of those poses are not just possible but likely if the head was flexed on the neck.</p>
<h4>Miscellanea</h4>
<p>We owe mad props to <a href="http://dontmesswithdinosaurs.com/">Brian Engh</a>, a.k.a. The Historian, who burst on the paleo-rap scene with a rap video about<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjnAst9Q9Kc"> crocodilian predation</a> and almost certainly the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JyLRs-824">first ever kung-fu rap video to name-check titanosaurs</a>. Brian stumbled across Mike&#8217;s <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/">extra goodies page</a> for the new paper about week before the paper was due out, and kindly suppressed the information until after D-Day. You can and should download his entire album,<em><a href="http://dontmesswithdinosaurs.com/?p=367"> Earth Beasts Awaken</a></em> (open access, yo), and kick it old school.</p>
<p>Congratulations to <a href="http://pakozoic.blogspot.com/">Francisco &#8220;Paco&#8221; Gasco</a>, who just got funding for a PhD to do a complete morphological and paleobiological workup on the giant Spanish sauropod <em>Turiasaurus</em>. You&#8217;ll be hearing more about Paco in the not-too-distant future, we promise.</p>
<p>Finally, here&#8217;s that video of an elephant grabbing an ostrich by the neck that you ordered.</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/ostrichvselephant.gif"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1631" title="ostrichvselephant" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/ostrichvselephant.gif" alt="ostrichvselephant" width="255" height="163" /></a></p>
<h4>The End of the Beginning?</h4>
<p>This brings us to the end of ten solid days of new posts, which is a new record for us and one not likely to be broken for a long time, if ever. We never planned to do all this; in the beginning we each were going to contribute one post and that would have been that. But we kept finding things that we felt needed to be discussed.</p>
<p>As all of us have been saying in every available medium, this is not the end of anything. The sauropod neck posture debate is not over; in a few years we may look back and see that in 2009 we were still stumbling to the real starting line. We don&#8217;t think this stuff is unimportant or unknowable, and we&#8217;re going to keep working on it, and we hope lots of others do as well.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see you out there.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/ridem-dino.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1629" title="Ridem dino 480" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/ridem-dino-480.jpg" alt="Ridem dino 480" width="480" height="165" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Up, boy, up! Heyaaah!!</p></div>
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<h4>References</h4>
<ul>
<li>Duijm, M. 1951. On the head posture in birds and its relation to some anatomical features. II. Proceedings of the Koninklijke Nederlandse Akademie van Wetenschappen, Series C 54: 260–271.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0001230">Sereno, Paul C., Jeffrey A. Wilson, Lawrence M. Witmer, John A. Whitlock, Abdoulaye Maga, Oumarou Ide and Timothy A. Rowe.  2007. Structural Extremes in a Cretaceous Dinosaur. PLoS ONE 2 (11): e1230 (9 pages).  doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0001230</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">Taylor, M.P., Wedel, M.J., and Naish, D. 2009. Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 54 (2): 213–220.</a></li>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/unstated-precision-and-undemonstrated-accuracy-two-more-reasons-why-we-dont-trust-dinomorph/</link>
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<dc:creator>Matt Wedel</dc:creator>
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<p>&#8211;Graur and Martin (2004: p.80)</p></blockquote>
<h4>Prologue: Why We Hatin&#8217;?</h4>
<p>Between the <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/range-of-motion-in-intervertebral-joints-why-we-dont-trust-dinomorph/">first DinoMorph post</a> and this one, it may seem like we have it in for DinoMorph, like we&#8217;re trying to discredit the method or bury it. We&#8217;re not anti-DinoMorph at all. We really want it to work, because 3D modeling is probably going to be the only way to explore some problems we care about  (like the breathing mechanics of an articulated sauropod torso), and so far DinoMorph seems to be farther along than any of the alternatives. It is also worth remembering that building 3D digital dinos for scientific purposes is still in its infancy, and that the VP community has barely gotten started exploring the possibilities. The field has great promise. But we also have to be realistic about limitations in the source data (see <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/range-of-motion-in-intervertebral-joints-why-we-dont-trust-dinomorph/">Mike&#8217;s post</a>) and about the accuracy and precision of the results (this post). We hope that these posts will start constructive conversations and inspire more work to improve the science.</p>
<h4>Intro: Accuracy and Precision</h4>
<p>Accuracy is how close to the real value a measurement is, and precision is how close repeated measurements are to each other. Say it&#8217;s 100 degrees F outside, which it may be for some of you. If you have four thermometers and they read 90, 95, 105, and 110, then the mean is 100. The accuracy of the aggregate setup is high, but the precision is low (big error bars). If, on the other hand, your thermometers read 94.2, 93.8, 94.6, and 93.4, then they are precise (tight grouping) but inaccurate (not centered on the real value)</p>
<h4>Oh Error Bars, Where Art Thou?</h4>
<p>Here&#8217;s what 2 degrees (angular, not temperature) looks like:</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/two-degrees.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1457" title="two degrees" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/two-degrees.jpg" alt="two degrees" width="480" height="100" /></a>It&#8217;s not a big measurement. If I was measuring the range of movement (ROM) of a single joint in one individual, like an elbow or shoulder, and I got a precision of plus or minus 2 degrees over repeated movements, I&#8217;d be pretty happy. If I got that level of precision on, say, the left knee, in ten different people, I&#8217;d start worrying that I was in the Matrix.</p>
<p>All eusauropods have at least 12 cervical vertebrae, and diplodocids have at least 15 (<em>Barosaurus </em>probably has 16, but there are no complete necks so it&#8217;s hard to be sure). What happens if we propagate an error of plus or minus 2 degrees down the neck of <em>Diplodocus</em>?</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-4-degree-range.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1458" title="Diplodocus 4 degree range" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-4-degree-range.jpg" alt="Diplodocus 4 degree range" width="480" height="254" /></a>None of these are supposed to correspond to any particular pose in life. I just lined up all the cervicals as straight as I could get them, and then rotated each joint between C3 and C15 by 2 degrees. I left the occipital condyle and C1-C3 in a straight line because I felt the point was made, but the head could be rotated up or down by another 6 degrees if one so chose. Again, this is not an ROM, this is just an error of plus or minus 2 degrees across each of 12 intervertebral joints.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look back at the neutral pose and estimated ROM of the neck in the CM 84/94 composite skeleton of <em>Diplodocus </em>(Stevens 2002: fig. 6a):</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus2.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1459" title="stevens2002-diplodocus" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus2.jpeg" alt="stevens2002-diplodocus" width="480" height="223" /></a></p>
<p>Notice that the model poses are shown with perfect precision, and no allowance for error. Now, look back up at the first picture to get an idea of what 2 degrees of error looks like, and then try to mentally apply it to each of those three poses. It&#8217;s not easy to picture, but in my mind&#8217;s eye the three neck poses dissolve into a fuzz of probabilities, like the electron cloud around the nucleus of an atom.</p>
<p>How precise is DinoMorph? Or rather, given that the guts of the program probably allow for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_horizons">Jupiter flyby</a> levels of precision, how precise is any given result, based on the interaction of raw data, necessary but unverified controlling assumptions (see below), and the algorithm itself? Can we really rule out an error of plus or minus 2 degrees per joint? What about 1 degree per joint? What about 5? This is a problem of precision, and it would still exist even with an absolutely perfect neck that was 100% complete and entirely undistorted (<a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/range-of-motion-in-intervertebral-joints-why-we-dont-trust-dinomorph/">which we ain&#8217;t got</a>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that the current version of the program doesn&#8217;t allow these kinds of error calculations. That&#8217;s fine&#8211;I realize that DinoMorph, like all of science, is a work in progress. But I&#8217;d like to know up front that there is no provision for determining the precision, so I could delay asking the question. And at some point, it will have to be answered.</p>
<p>Maybe it would be better to shift gears and ask: when DinoMorph is applied to extant animals, does it accurately predict the neutral pose and ROM?</p>
<h4>Ground Truthiness</h4>
<p>It <em>might </em>be better to ask that question, but there are no published answers. From the first DinoMorph paper, where the method is justified (Stevens and Parrish 1999: p. 798):</p>
<blockquote><p>Our manipulation of muscle and ligament preparations of extant bird necks indicated that synovial capsules constrain movement such that paired pre- and postzygapophyses could only be displaced to the point where the margin of one facet reaches roughly the midpoint of the other facet, at which point the capsule is stretched taut (20). In other words, one facet could slip upon the other until their overlap was reduced to about 50%. In vivo, muscles, ligaments, and fascia may have further limited movement (20); thus, the digital manipulations reported here represent a “best case” scenario for neck mobility.</p></blockquote>
<p>The reference supporting all this is number 20 (remember how much I like <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/the-aerosteon-saga-part-2-overinflation-and-undercitation/">numbered references</a>?), and here&#8217;s the full text (Stevens and Parrish 1999: p. 800):</p>
<blockquote><p>20. J. M. Parrish and K. Stevens, unpublished data.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those data are still unpublished. But at least one of the basic assumptions&#8211;the 50% zyg overlap bit&#8211;is contradicted by Stevens and Parrish (2005b: p. 191 [not to mention by Taylor et al. 2009]).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a decade. There have been three subsequent papers on this stuff (Stevens 2002, Stevens and Parrish 2005a, b). The DinoMorph results have been the foundation for sauropod depictions in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_with_Dinosaurs">biggest dinosaur documentary ever made</a> and for <a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/Kaibridge/AMNH/">an exhibit</a> at the <a href="http://www.amnh.org/">biggest natural history museum in the world</a>. And we have no idea if the method is accurate, because the supporting data have never been published.</p>
<p>Sadly, this is not that uncommon in paleontology, particularly when it comes to sauropods, and especially when it comes to necks. Someone comes up with a totally new method, and right out of the gate it gets applied to a thorny paleontological problem, before it&#8217;s been demonstrated to work on extant animals. It&#8217;s exciting, it&#8217;s seductive, and it&#8217;s hard to screw up, because when you apply an unproven method to an unsolved problem, it&#8217;s impossible to get the wrong answer. In fact, the results are &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong">not even wrong</a>&#8220;; it&#8217;s impossible to get an answer of any value whatsoever, because there is no way of judging its correctness.</p>
<p>In contrast, the work of Christian and Dzemski (2007) on neck posture in <em>Brachiosaurus </em>warrants serious consideration, not because of the particular answer they got for <em>Brachiosaurus</em>, but because they got the right answers when they applied their method to extant long-necked animals (ostriches and camels; Dzemski and Christian 2007). Don Henderson and Ryosuke Motani, among others, have also been religious about ground-truthing their methods on extant animals before applying them to fossil taxa. That shouldn&#8217;t be  exceptional. It should be <em>expected</em>. It should be the minimum requirement for being included in the discussion.</p>
<h4>Conclusion: Let&#8217;s move forward</h4>
<p>I can&#8217;t accuse the makers of <em>Walking With Dinosaurs</em> or the designers of <em>Dinosaurs: Ancient Fossils, New Discoveries</em> of drinking the DinoMorph Kool-Aid. I don&#8217;t know that it <em>is </em>Kool-Aid. It might be fine wine. There&#8217;s red stuff in the cup, but no one has tasted it.</p>
<p>If you get nothing else from this post, please understand that I&#8217;m not saying the results of DinoMorph are either good or bad. I&#8217;m saying that there is currently no objective way of knowing. I want DinoMorph to work, but I want a DinoMorph made rigorous by the publication of supporting data from extant animals demonstrating its accuracy, and ranges of error demonstrating its precision.</p>
<p>If someone has a novel method they want to apply to dinosaurs or any other extinct animal, the burden of proof is on them to show that the method works. And if that evidence is not forthcoming, you&#8211;reviewers, editors, readers, science journalists, museum exhibit designers, documentary producers, netizens, laypeople&#8211;have the right to ask for it. And until you get that supporting evidence, you don&#8217;t have to take the results of the method seriously. Asking &#8220;how do you know that?&#8221; is the basis of science; it ought to be reflexive.</p>
<p>In the <a href="http://dml.cmnh.org/2005Apr/msg00419.html">immortal words</a> of Tom Holtz, &#8220;Sorry if that makes some people feel bad, but I&#8217;m not in the &#8216;make people feel good business&#8217;; I&#8217;m a scientist.&#8221;</p>
<h4>References</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/114103054/abstract">Christian, A. and Dzemski, G. 2007. Reconstruction of the cervical skeleton posture of <em>Brachiosaurus brancai</em> Janensch, 1914 by an analysis of the intervertebral stress along the neck and a comparison with the results of different approaches. Fossil Record 10: 38–49. </a>(subscription required)</li>
<li><a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/114265601/abstract?CRETRY=1&#38;SRETRY=0">Dzemski, G., and Christian, A. (2007) Flexibility along the neck of the ostrich (<em>Struthio camelus</em>) and consequences for the reconstruction of dinosaurs with extreme neck length. Journal of Morphology 268(8):701-714.</a> (subscription required)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.molevol.de/publications/117.pdf">Graur, D., and Martin, W. 2004. Reading the entrails of chickens: molecular timescales of evolution and the illusion of precision. Trends in Genetics 20:80-86.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/publications/Stevens-Final.pdf">Stevens, K.A. 2002. DinoMorph: Parametric modeling of skeletal structures.  Senckenbergiana Lethaea 82(1): 23-34.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/284/5415/798">Stevens, K.A. and Parrish, J.M. 1999. Neck posture and feeding habits of two Jurassic sauropod dinosaurs. Science 284: 798–800.</a> (subscription required)</li>
<li><a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/publications/Tidwell%20and%20Carpenter.pdf">Stevens, K.A. and Parrish, J.M. 2005a. Neck posture, dentition, and feeding strategies in Jurassic sauropod dinosaurs. In: V. Tidwell and K. Carpenter (eds.), Thunder−Lizards: The Sauropodomorph Dinosaurs, 212–232. Indiana University Press, Bloomington, Indiana.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/publications/Curry%20Rogers%20and%20WIlson.pdf">Stevens, K.A. and Parrish, J.M. 2005b. Digital reconstructions of sauropod dinosaurs and implications for feeding. In: K.A. Curry Rogers and J.A. Wilson (eds.), The Sauropods: Evolution and Paleobiology, 178–200. University of California Press, Berkeley, California.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">Taylor, M.P., Wedel, M.J. and Naish, D. 2009. Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 54(2): 213-220.</a></li>
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<p>When we started blogging <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/taylor-et-al-2009-on-neck-posture/">our recent neck-posture paper</a> (Taylor et al. 2009, for those of you who&#8217;ve been chatting in the back row and not paying attention), we expected to make two posts, maybe three.  Yet here we are in post six, and I know Matt has another up the barrel for tomorrow, so it looks like we&#8217;re going to end up having written a whole week&#8217;s worth of daily posts, <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/xenoposeidon-week/">just as we did for <em>Xenoposeidon</em></a>.</p>
<p>One of the questions a lot of people have asked me is why we published in a Polish journal (<em><a href="http://app.pan.pl/">Acta Palaeontologica Polonica</a></em>).  Although APP is published in Poland and edited by a primarily Polish board, it&#8217;s more accurate to characterise it as an international journal &#8212; the papers in the issue where our work appeared had lead authors based in Poland (4 papers), USA (3), Italy (2), and England, France, Japan, Spain and Sweden (1 each).  Still, that question is a nice jumping-off point to discuss something of relevance to all academics that doesn&#8217;t get a lot of coverage: how to choose a journal.</p>
<div id="attachment_1472" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/schwarzetal2007-fig1.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1472" title="SchwarzEtAl2007-fig1-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/schwarzetal2007-fig1-480px.jpeg" alt="From another sauropod paper in Acta Palaeontologica Polonica: Schwarz et al. (2007: fig. 1), showing CT scans of a Diplodocus cervical" width="480" height="291" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">From another sauropod paper in Acta Palaeontologica Polonica: Schwarz et al. (2007: fig. 1), showing CT scans of a Diplodocus cervical</p></div>
<h1>Criteria for choosing a journal</h1>
<p>There are plenty of criteria that come in to play in picking a journal, and people will vary in how much weight their place on each.  We&#8217;ll take a look at some of them (in no very convincing order), and then I&#8217;ll explain what I think is the unifying principle.</p>
<p><strong>Impact factor.</strong> I&#8217;ll deal with this first, because it&#8217;s easiest to dismiss.  The impact factor is <a href="http://drvector.blogspot.com/2007/02/reason-317-to-be-depressed-journal.html">a stupid, irrelevant number attached to journals by a private corporation with its own agenda and with no responsibility to actual scientists</a>.  Its use is particularly dumb in palaeo, a field in which it&#8217;s near impossible to get a paper written, submitted, reviewed and published in time to hit the two-year window during which citations are counted for impact-factor purposes &#8212; which is why even the best palaeo journals (<em>JVP,</em> <em>Palaeontology</em>, <em>APP</em>) have impact factors close to 1.0.  All scientists should ignore impact factor whenever possible.</p>
<p><strong>Prestige.</strong> Now we&#8217;re getting somewhere.  Prestige is what impact factor is a (wholly inadequate) proxy for.  Of course, it&#8217;s impossible to define or quantify satisfactorily, but we all know what we mean by it.  Sadly, top of the tree for prestige &#8212; by a long way &#8212; are the &#8220;tabloids&#8221;, <em>Science</em> and <em>Nature</em>.  It&#8217;s considered a huge deal to publish in these, very good for your career &#8212; which is a shame, as the super-short format makes it nearly impossible to do decent science in these venues.  As Exhibit A, I give you Sereno et al. (1999).  In five pages, Sereno and his ten co-authors presented descriptions of not one but two new sauropod genera, plus a time-calibrated phylogeny and an analysis of rates of morphological change through time.  It is not intended as a criticism of Sereno and his colleagues when I say that for scientific purposes, the descriptions in this paper are essentially worthless &#8212; it&#8217;s simply not possible to do anything like justice to two genera, both represented by nearly complete remains, in that amount of space.  Lest I seem to be picking on this particular team, which I honestly assure you is not my purpose here, I could equally point to Curry Rogers and Forster&#8217;s (2001) description of <em>Rapetosaurus</em>, Rauhut et al. (2005) on <em>Brachytrachelopan</em> or indeed the original DinoMorph paper (Stevens and Parrish 1999).  The publication of important work in the tabloids is not such a disaster when conscientious authors such as John Hutchinson follow up a high-prestige extended abstract such as Hutchinson and Garcia (2002) with a full-length study elsewhere (Hutchinson et al. 2005), but sadly this seems to be more the exception than the rule &#8212; after all, if you&#8217;ve already got all that credit for a short paper, why bother doing all the extra work involved in getting the full-length paper done?  That said, I am assured that Curry Rogers&#8217;s long-awaited <em>Rapetosaurus</em> osteology is on the way RSN.  At the risk of sounding sour-grapesy (I&#8217;ve never been published in either tabloid myself), I do think that the existence of these journals is a net negative for actual science.  I won&#8217;t go so far as to say that I&#8217;ll never publish in <em>S</em>&#8216;n&#8217;<em>N</em> if I get the chance, but I do right here and now undertake that if ever that chance should come my way, I <em>will</em> do my level best to get the full-length study out as soon as possible thereafter.</p>
<p>Hmm, that seems to have turned into a tangential rant about the tabloids, which really wasn&#8217;t my intention, but so it goes.  More generally, there is a sense that general-science journals are more prestigious than specialist palaeo journals: notable ones include <em>PNAS</em> and the various Royal Society journals.  An exception to this rule is the PLoS journals: because it&#8217;s more selective <em>PLoS Biology</em> is considered more prestigious than the general-science <em>PLoS ONE</em>.  Among palaeo journals, there&#8217;s a feeling that <em>Paleobiology</em> is particularly well regarded, with <em>Palaeontology</em>, the <em>Journal of Paleontology</em>, <em>JVP</em> and <em>Acta Pal</em>. <em>Pol</em>. up on its shoulders.  Other journals are a little further down the great chain of being.</p>
<p>How much does prestige matter?  Quite a lot (especially if you need your CV to look good) but rather less than a few years ago, I think &#8212; for reasons that will become apparent later on.</p>
<p><strong>Turnaround speed.</strong> The importance of this will vary at different times.  I&#8217;ve had a couple of my papers published in <em>PaleoBios</em>, the journal of the University of California Museum of Paleontology &#8212; which is not particularly high-profile &#8212; for one main reason: they turn papers round really quickly.  That was particularly important to me when I was starting out, and really needed to get something on my CV quickly.  Now that my publication list is a little less feeble, I can afford to let my manuscripts marinate for longer in order to get them into more recognised journals.  But sometimes that goes to ridiculous extremes: a while back, Matt and I sent a paper to <em>Paleobiology</em>.  The editors sat on the manuscript for more than a month before even sending it out to reviewers.  When I asked two months later, then again a month after than, then again a month after <em>that</em>, reviews were still not in.  In the end, we didn&#8217;t hear back until more than six months after submission &#8212; and when we finally saw the reviews, one of them consisted only of filling in a one-page form.  We weren&#8217;t impressed, and won&#8217;t be submitting there again, despite the journal&#8217;s high prestige.  (We know others who have had even longer waits.  Sadly, we didn&#8217;t know this at the time we submitted; if we did, we&#8217;d have made other plans).</p>
<p>At the other end of the scale, <em>Acta Pal</em>. <em>Pol</em>. did a very fast job: just under one month elapsed after our initial submission of the neck-posture paper before we got back two detailed and helpful reviews accompanying a provisional acceptance.  It took us a fortnight to make the revisions, and only one further week for the revised manuscript to be accepted and in press &#8212; seven weeks from start to end, and then a wait of only two and a half months before publication.</p>
<p><strong>Figure reproduction.</strong> This varies in importance depending on what kind of paper you&#8217;re submitting: for a description, I think it&#8217;s really important (which is why Darren and I argued, successfully, with the <em>Palaeontology </em>editor to get full-page reproduction for the <em>Xenoposeidon</em> <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/xeno/images/figures/figure3-photos.jpeg">photographs </a>and <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/xeno/images/figures/figure4-interpretation.jpeg">interpretive drawings</a>); for a biomechanics paper or similar, it&#8217;s maybe not so important, provided the figures are legible.  In terms of electronic figure reproduction, the hands-down winner is the PLoS series of journals: for example, the individual elements surrounding the skeletal reconstruction in the <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001230.g003&#38;representation=PNG_L">full-sized figure 3</a> of Sereno et al.&#8217;s (2007) description of the skull of <em>Nigersaurus</em> are exquisite.  At the other end of the scale, one of the big disappointments with <em>Palaeontologia Electronica</em> is the figure quality: for example, Rose&#8217;s (2007) description of <em>Paluxysaurus</em> has <a href="http://palaeo-electronica.org/2007_2/00063/fig_12.htm">really tiny online images of the figures</a> &#8212; something there&#8217;s no real excuse for in an online-only journal.</p>
<p><strong>Length restrictions/page charges.</strong> Some journals charge the author per printed page; some charge per page after a certain number of free pages.  The charges, and the number of free pages, vary wildly between journals.  Some, maybe most, journals will waive these fees for authors with no institutional support.  Need I say that you want to find a journal that won&#8217;t charge, or will charge only a little?</p>
<p>(For journals that take away your copyright and restrict your use of your own work, I think that charging as well adds insult to injury.)</p>
<p><strong>Reprint costs.</strong> Before the advent of ubiquitous PDFs, the main way to disseminate your work apart the journal issue itself was by buying reprints from the journal and handing them out to colleagues at conferences.  Reprint costs also very wildly between journals.  This used to be more important than it is now, as we have other ways of letting people see our work.</p>
<p><strong>Wide distribution of physical issues.</strong> If your article is in <em>Science</em> or <em>Nature</em>, then a zillion copies will be printed and sent all over the world.  If you publish in <em>The Biennial Newsletter of the South Yorkshire Lepidopterists&#8217; Society</em>, eight copies will be photostatted and sent as far afield as North Yorkshire.  So you might think that wide distribution correlates strongly with prestige, but that&#8217;s not always true.  A nice outlier here is <em>PaleoBios</em>: copies are sent to libraries all over the world, in exchange for copies of other institutional journals, which means that anything published in <em>PaleoBios</em> can be found in hardcopy in a surprising number of places.  This is nice; but as with reprints, less important than it was even a few years ago.  And the reason is &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Existence of PDFs.</strong> Finally we get to the bit that we&#8217;ve all known was coming.  In this enlightened day and age, most of us have several metric shedloads of papers in PDF form on our hard drives, meaning that whenever we go to a musuem with our laptops and want to compare an alleged basal titanosauriform median caudal with those of <em>Brachiosaurus brancai</em>, we have only to pull up the PDF of Janensch (1950) and we&#8217;re done.  Lugging around great stacks of actual paper seems not merely unnecessary but passé, like wearing flared trousers or listening to the Spice Girls.  Everyone needs PDFs, and everyone knows that this is the case.  So every publication venue provides authors with them &#8230; right?</p>
<p>Amazingly, no.  Things may have changed since 2007, but back then authors had to PAY $100 to the <em>Journal of Paleontology</em> to get a PDF of THEIR OWN PAPER.  Oh, and money orders were only accepted from the USA and Canada, so good luck if you&#8217;re a European author.  These facts hurt so much I am going to have to go and lie down before continuing.</p>
<p>&#8230; later &#8230; Here&#8217;s one that hurts even more: Brusatte et al.&#8217;s (2008) osteology of the stinkin&#8217; theropod <em>Neovenator</em> DOES NOT EXIST as a PDF, except for a crappy scan.  Apparently the Palaeontographical Society doesn&#8217;t give the authors PDFs at all, at any price.  For me, that is a simple, non-negotiable Submission Killer: I will never, ever send my stuff to a venue that doesn&#8217;t give me a PDF.  In 2009, the idea is untenable.</p>
<p><strong>Open access.</strong> Assuming that a PDF exists, who can get it and under what terms?  Under the classical model, publishers own your work, and can &#8212; and do &#8212; restrict access to it.  To see what you wrote, other scientists, and interested amateurs, have to either have an institutional subscription or pay some ludicrously inflated fee like $30.  (I wonder whether anyone in world history has ever done this?)  See <a href="http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/journal.html">Scott Aaronson&#8217;s rather brilliant article</a> for more on this extraordinary state of affairs.</p>
<p>In contrast, an increasing number of journals are now <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access_(publishing)">open access</a>, which means that anyone, anywhere can download the PDF with minimum fuss and at no cost.  <em>Acta Palaeontologia Polonica</em> is one of these, and was among the first in palaeo.  Other notable journals in this category include <em>PLoS Biology</em> and <em>PLoS ONE</em>, and <em>Zootaxa</em>.  If you&#8217;re prepared to wait a year before your paper becomes open access (i.e. wait until everyone who&#8217;s interested has long had a copy and all the buzz has died down so that no-one cares any more), then the list of open access journals grows to include venues like <em>Science</em> and <em>Proc. B</em>, but personally I am inclined to feel that this is stretching the definition well past breaking point.  There are good and valid reasons for wanting to publish in these venues, but their open-access-but-not-in-any-way-that-matters policy is not one of them.</p>
<p>There are (at least) two reasons to favour open-access journals: the pragmatic one is that it&#8217;s the best way to make sure that anyone, anywhere in the world who&#8217;s interested in your work can get it &#8212; whether professor, curator, student, interested amateur or vaguely interested high-school kid.  The other reason is that it&#8217;s just <em>right</em>.  We&#8217;re talking here about the world&#8217;s accumulated knowledge, in many cases acquired by publicly funded research programs.  It is simply and plainly wrong that this work should be shut up behind paywalls where the people who paid for it can&#8217;t see it.</p>
<p><strong>Copyright retention.</strong> Most publishers, including some open access publishers, require the author to sign over copyright as a condition of publication.  Even if it doesn&#8217;t make much difference in practice, I have to say it rankles that, for example, that the Palaeontological Society has ended up owning <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/xenoposeidon-week-day-1-introducing-xeno/">my and Darren&#8217;s work on <em>Xenoposeidon</em></a> (Taylor and Naish 2007).  This is particularly iniquitous in unashamedly commercial publishers such as Elsevier &#8212; guess who owns <a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/Angloposeidon/index.html">Darren&#8217;s paper on &#8220;Angloposeidon&#8221;</a> (Naish et al. 2004)?  And it&#8217;s even more baffling in open-access journals since they let anyone have the work anyway.  I assume the real reason for this is that publishers want to be able to exploit any spin-offs such as popular books, but copyright transfer forms usually contain a lot of blurfl about it being for the author&#8217;s benefit, as it allows the publisher to pursue infringement claims on the author&#8217;s behalf.  To which I offer the following rebuttal: &#8220;yeah, right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not all publishers do this.  Notably, we retain the copyright on our recent paper in <em>Acta Pal</em>. <em>Pol</em>., <em>Zoologica Scripta</em> leaves copyright with the authors, and there are others.  Good for them.</p>
<p><strong>&#8230; and finally, you do need to be realistic.</strong> Despite my whining about <em>Science</em> and <em>Nature</em> above, I don&#8217;t deny that we&#8217;d have loved to place the neck-posture paper at one of those journals: apart from anything else, it would be useful for Matt as he works towards tenure, and helpful for Darren who &#8212; astoundingly &#8212; is still without a job in academia.  <em>S</em>&#8216;n&#8217;<em>N</em> papers help with that stuff.  But we know (these journals make no secret of it) that they reject 90% of submissions without even reviewing them, and it would likely just have been a waste of our time and effort to lobotomise our eight-pager down to three and reformat with the ultra-dumb numbered-references format in exchange for a tiny, tiny chance of hitting that jackpot.  So we didn&#8217;t bother.  (Also, while scientists strive to evaluate work on its merits, I can&#8217;t help suspecting that a submission to the tabloids with University of Portsmouth and Western University of Health Sciences in the byline would have started with something of a handicap in the selection process.)</p>
<h1>What it all means</h1>
<p>So apart from having suggested you ignore Impact Factor, I&#8217;ve said to consider prestige, reprint costs, distribution of physical issues, existence of PDFs, open access, copyright retention, turnaround speed, figure reproduction and length restrictions/page charges.  And the interesting thing is that the first half dozen of these are all about the same thing, which I&#8217;d argue is the underlying issue:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><strong>Getting the paper read by as many people as possible.</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s really about, isn&#8217;t it?  The reason you want cheap reprints is so you can give them to people who&#8217;ll read them; the reason you want wide distribution of physical issues is so they&#8217;ll get into libraries where people will read them; and so on.</p>
<p>But both reprints and physical issues are much less important than they used to be, because now we can email our stuff to anyone in the world.  So let&#8217;s ignore them for now.  Prestige is less important than it used to be, because one of its big wins was that it got your article into the hands of potential readers; but it&#8217;s still important in other ways. And let&#8217;s ignore journals that don&#8217;t give you PDFs because they are off the Submission Radar.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s another thing:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><strong>Everything is open.</strong></p>
<p>It just is, <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/off-topic-non-open-academic-publishing-is-dead/">and there&#8217;s nothing that anyone can do about it</a>.  Everything that becomes available as a PDF is quickly passed around the community, and in most cases posted on the author&#8217;s web-site (whatever the journal&#8217;s Arbitrary And Exploitative Copyright Transfer Form said).  So from a purely pragmatic perspective, you could say that in choosing a journal we can also ignore the criterion of whether or not the journal considers itself open access (because it really is anyway) and also copyright retention (since it doesn&#8217;t really matter if everyone can read it anyway).</p>
<p>So what criteria are we left with?  Of the ten we started with, those left standing in the era of ubiquitous PDFs number just four: prestige, turnaround speed, figure reproduction quality and length restrictions/page charges.  And this is excellent, because these are the actual <em>services</em> that journals provide to authors.  A journal best serves authors by handling their manuscripts quickly and without charge, by imparting prestige due to the reputation of the editorial board and quality of previous issues, and by reproducing the figures well.  I think it&#8217;s great that we&#8217;re moving inexorably towards an economy where the journals that get the best submissions will be the ones that provide the best services.</p>
<p>And among journals that do these things well, it&#8217;s fairer to reward the good buys by bestowing our submissions on those that are deliberately publishing open access rather than those that try to stop people reading what they &#8220;publish&#8221; (which, of course, is ironically the very opposite of what the word is supposed to mean, i.e. making something available).  There are some non-open journals that you sort of <em>have</em> to publish in &#8212; I don&#8217;t feel my CV would be complete without papers at <em>JVP</em> and <em>Palaeontology</em> &#8212; but aside from those society-owned journals (and, OK, museum journals), I am planning to pretty much stick to open access venues from here on.</p>
<h1>In Praise of <em>Acta Pal</em>. <em>Pol</em>.</h1>
<p>I&#8217;ll finish by mentioning that <em>Acta Palaeontologia Polonica</em> does offer a very good blend of the qualities we&#8217;re looking for in a publication venue: it&#8217;s open access by design (and has been for years), turnaround is very fast, the figure reproduction is good (though perhaps not stellar), and the page charges of 27 Euros per page over the first eight are not unreasonable.  (It also has cheap reprints and is widely distributed, but we&#8217;re ignoring those factors, remember?)  Finally, the journal has a well-earned reputation for publishing good papers and for reviewing them well.  So all in all, we&#8217;re really pleased with APP and would definitely use it again.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
<ul>
<li>Brusatte, Stephen L., Roger B. J. Benson, and Stephen Hutt.  2008. The osteology of <em>Neovenator salerii</em> (Dinosauria: Theropoda) from the Wealden Group (Barremian) of the Isle of Wight.  Monograph of the Palaeontographical Society 162 (631): 1-166.</li>
<li>Curry Rogers, Kristina and Catherine A. Forster.  2001.  The last of the dinosaur titans: a new sauropod from Madagascar. Nature 412: 30-534.</li>
<li>Hutchinson, John R. and Garcia, Mariano.  2002. <em>Tyrannosaurus </em>was not a fast runner.  Nature 415: 1018-1021</li>
<li>Hutchinson, John R., Frank C. Anderson, Silvia S. Blemker, and Scott L. Delp.  2005.  Analysis of hindlimb muscle moment arms in <em>Tyrannosaurus rex</em> using a three-dimensional musculoskeletal computer model: implications for stance, gait, and speed. Paleobiology, 31(4): 676-701.</li>
<li>Janensch, W. (1950). Die Wirbelsaule von <em>Brachiosaurus brancai.</em> Palaeontographica (Suppl. 7) 3: 27-93.</li>
<li>Naish, Darren, David M. Martill, David Cooper and Kent A. Stevens.  2004.  Europe&#8217;s largest dinosaur?  A giant brachiosaurid cervical vertebra from the Wessex Formation (Early Cretaceous) of southern England.  Cretaceous Research 25: 787-795.</li>
<li>Rauhut, O. W. M., K. Remes, R. Fechner, G. Cladera, and P. Puerta. 2005.  Discovery of a short-necked sauropod dinosaur from the Late Jurassic period of Patagonia. Nature 435:670-672.</li>
<li>Rose, Peter J.  2007.  A new titanosauriform sauropod (Dinosauria: Saurischia) from the Early Cretaceous of central Texas and its phylogenetic relationships.  Palaeontologia Electronica 10 (2): 8A.</li>
<li>Schwarz, Daniela, Eberhard Frey and Christian A. Meyer.  2007. Pneumaticity and soft-tissue reconstructions in the neck of diplodocid and dicraeosaurid sauropods.  Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 52 (1): 167-188.</li>
<li>Sereno, Paul C., Allison L. Beck, Didier. B. Dutheil, Hans C. E. Larsson, Gabrielle. H. Lyon, Bourahima Moussa, Rudyard W. Sadleir, Christian A. Sidor, David J. Varricchio, Gregory P. Wilson and Jeffrey A. Wilson.  1999.  Cretaceous Sauropods from the Sahara and the Uneven Rate of Skeletal Evolution Among Dinosaurs.  Science, vol. 282, pp. 1342-1347;</li>
<li>Sereno, Paul C., Jeffrey A. Wilson, Lawrence M. Witmer, John A. Whitlock, Abdoulaye Maga, Oumarou Ide and Timothy A. Rowe.  2007. Structural Extremes in a Cretaceous Dinosaur. PLoS ONE 2 (11): e1230 (9 pages).  doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0001230</li>
<li>Stevens, K. A., and Parrish J. M., 1999, Neck Posture and Feeding Habits of Two Jurassic Sauropod Dinosaurs: Science, 284: 798-800.</li>
<li>Taylor, Michael P. and Darren Naish.  2007.  An unusual new neosauropod dinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous Hastings Beds Group of East Sussex, England.  Palaeontology 50 (6): 1547-1564.  doi: 10.1111/j.1475-4983.2007.00728.x</li>
<li>Taylor, Michael P., Mathew J. Wedel and Darren Naish.  2009.  Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 54(2): 213-220.</li>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Wait, what?  So let&#8217;s assume for a moment that you accept our contention (Taylor et al. 2009) that, since extant terrestrial tetrapods habitually hold their necks in maximal extension, sauropods did the same.  That still leaves the question of why we have the neck of our <em>Diplodocus</em> reconstruction at a steep 45-degree angle rather than the very gentle elevation that Stevens and Parrish&#8217;s (1999) DinoMorph project permits.</p>
<p>As a reminder, here is fig. 6A of Stevens (2002), a paper on the computer science behind DinoMorph which used exactly the same models as the 1999 study but which conveniently illustrates them in lateral view:</p>
<div id="attachment_1427" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1427" title="Stevens2002-diplodocus-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus-480px1.jpeg" alt="Stevens (2002: fig. 6A), illustrating the fully extended, neutral and fully flexed poses attainable by Diplodocus according to the original DinoMorph model" width="480" height="223" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Stevens (2002: fig. 6A), illustrating the fully extended, neutral and fully flexed poses attainable by Diplodocus according to the original DinoMorph model</p></div>
<p>As you&#8217;ll see, not only does the neutral pose show the characteristic subhorizontal neck with the drooping end, but even the maximally extended pose barely gets the head above the level of the back.  In <a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/Diplodocus/">the most recent version of his <em>Diplodocus</em> model</a>, Kent has slightly changed the angle at which the neck leaves the torso, due to a reconfiguration of the pectoral girdle, but this still leaves the neck very low.</p>
<p>So why did we do <em>this</em>?</p>
<div id="attachment_1301" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/natural2-bones.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1301" title="natural2-bones-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/natural2-bones-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus carnegii head, neck and anterior torso, right lateral view, articulated in habitual posture as hypothesised by Taylor et al. (2009). Skull and vertebrae from Hatcher (1901)." width="480" height="383" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus carnegii head, neck and anterior torso, right lateral view, articulated in habitual posture as hypothesised by Taylor et al. (2009).  Skull and vertebrae from Hatcher (1901).</p></div>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t the DinoMorph model show that the posterior cervicals just can&#8217;t do this?</p>
<p>Well, maybe not.</p>
<p>Remember that the precursor to the DinoMorph project was John Martin&#8217;s (1987) paper on the mounting of the Rutland cetiosaur at the Leicester City Museum, in which he calculated neutral pose and the extreme extended and flexed poses by manipulating actual bones without the benefit of a computer.  Martin ended up with a similar result to that Stevens and Parrish were later to get:</p>
<div id="attachment_1432" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/martin1987-fig2-cetiosaurus-neck-rom.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1432" title="Martin1987-fig2-cetiosaurus-neck-rom-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/martin1987-fig2-cetiosaurus-neck-rom-480px.jpeg" alt="Martin1987-fig2-cetiosaurus-neck-rom-480px" width="480" height="383" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Martin (1987:fig. 2) showing claimed limits of extension of and flexion in the neck of the Rutland cetiosaur</p></div>
<p>But when Matt and I looked at the actual mounted skeleton a few years back, what we saw didn&#8217;t fit with this at all:</p>
<div id="attachment_1435" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/iow_l02c.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1435" title="IOW_L02C-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/iow_l02c-480px.jpg" alt="Rutland cetiosaur, anterior part of neck in right lateral view, showing extreme disarticulation between the cotyle of C5 and condyle of C6" width="480" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Rutland cetiosaur, anterior part of neck in right lateral view, showing extreme disarticulation between the cotyle of C4 and condyle of C5</p></div>
<p>Check out that <em>huge</em> gap between the centra of the fourth and fifth cervicals!  There&#8217;s no way to avoid this without putting a comically extreme downward kink in the neck at this point.  And there are similar gaps at other points along the neck, including some near the neck-base that would require a strong upward kink in order to articulate both the centra and the zygapophyses simultaneously.</p>
<p>Are we saying that in life, this specimen <em>did</em> have strong kinks in the neck?  No, we&#8217;re not (despite the pleasant coincidence that this would force the neck into an extreme version of the elevated pose we&#8217;re advocating).  What we&#8217;re saying is that sauropod cervicals are rarely &#8212; I&#8217;d go so far as to say <em>never</em> &#8212; preserved undistorted, and so you just can&#8217;t rely on how they seem to articulate, at least not for quantitative analyses.  This post-mortem distortion should not be too surprising: unlike femora and other such solid bones, remember that the cervicals were highly pneumatic and composed primarily of laminae, which would be subject to all sorts of taphonomic and diagenetic distortion.  In the extreme case of <em>Sauroposeidon</em>, the cervicals, which were up to 140 cm in length, &#8220;are of extremely light construction, with the outer layer of bone ranging in thickness from less than 1 mm (literally paper-thin) to approximately 3 mm&#8221; (Wedel et al. 2000:110-111) &#8212; it&#8217;s astonishing that they are not much more smushed up than they are.</p>
<p>So Martin&#8217;s cetiosaur seems too distorted to give meaningful articulation results, but what about the specimens that Stevens and Parrish used for the DinoMorph paper?  Well, the <em>Apatosaurus</em> model is certainly based on questionable material.  As pointed out by Upchurch (2000):</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">A second difficulty with Stevens and Parrish&#8217;s analysis is that their data for <em>Apatosaurus</em> was derived from a single specimen in the Carnegie Museum (CM 3018). This generally well preserved specimen has suffered severe damage at the base of the neck, and the three most posterior cervicals are thus represented by plaster models that cannot provide reliable anatomical data (Gilmore 1936, pers. obs.). Although Stevens and Parrish acknowledge that the morphology of the posterior cervicals is particularly influential in determining the nature of the feeding envelope, they do not mention this problem, and it is not clear how this gap in the data was addressed in their analyses. This deficit could have had a profound impact on Stevens and Parrish&#8217;s conclusions.</p>
<p>And Gilmore&#8217;s observations are really rather damning: as well as the account of the damaged neck-base, he also noted (p. 195) that &#8220;the type of <em>A</em>. <em>louisae</em> [i.e. CM 3018] lacks most of the spine tops, only those of cervicals eight, ten and twelve being complete&#8221;.  (You would NEVER guess this from Gilmore&#8217;s Plate XXIV, which shows all of the cervicals but C5 essentially complete.)  So all in all, the DinoMorph study&#8217;s <em>Apatosaurus</em> is not one I&#8217;d want to build an argument on.</p>
<p>What about the <em>Diplodocus carnegii</em> holotype CM 84, which is the <em>Diplodocus</em> used in the DinoMorph papers?  That&#8217;s just about the best preserved sauropod skeleton in the world, right?  Well, yes.  But even that is distorted enough that the neck can&#8217;t be articulated without some sleight of hand.  I don&#8217;t have good photos of the mounted neck, unfortunately (and probably won&#8217;t have until someone at the NHM gives me a stepladder and access to the holy of holies that surrounds the mount), but I did have the experience of photoshopping the cervcial vertebra illustrations from Hatcher (1901: plate III)  in an attempt to get them into a good pose, and I found that even these don&#8217;t really fit properly:</p>
<div id="attachment_1438" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-cm84-c6-9.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1438" title="diplodocus-cm84-c6-9-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus-cm84-c6-9-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus carnegii holotype CM 84, partial neck (cervicals 6-9), composed from elements in Hatcher (1901: plate III)" width="480" height="384" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus carnegii holotype CM 84, partial neck (cervicals 6-9) in right lateral view, composed from elements in Hatcher (1901: plate III)</p></div>
<p>You&#8217;ll see that, while the condyles are sat nicely in the cotyles, the zygapophyses are not at all well articulated: in particular, the C7-C8 and C8-C9 junctions have the prezygs shoved much too far forward, so that a double downward kink would be necessary to accomodate these articulations without pulling the condyles out of the cotyles.</p>
<p>Finally, while Matt and I were <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/shedloads-of-awesome-part-1-the-humboldt-brachiosaur-remount/">in Berlin</a> <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/shedloads-of-awesome-part-2-mike-and-matts-excellent-adventure/">last November</a>, as <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2008/12/21/shedloads-of-awesome-part-3-dicraeosaurus/">part of the excursion</a> associated with the awesome all-sauropod-gigantism-all-the-time workshop, we got to play with the superbly preserved set of anterior brachiosaur cervicals HMN SI, and we tried to articulate the real bones.  We had to stop for fear of breaking them, because they simply would not fit nicely together.</p>
<p>In conclusion, the distortion of <em>all</em> sauropod cervicals renders them poor subjects for quantitative analysis such as that of the DinoMorph project.  While the approach of Stevens and Parrish is a real and valuable contribution to rigour in the analysis of posture, the output of DinoMorph is a hypothesis to be tested by other lines of evidence rather than a firmly established fact.  (That last bit was quoted verbatim from our paper.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone on much longer than I intended to in what was supposed to be a quick-and-easy post, so I&#8217;ll leave it here.  In order to keep the recent paper short and snappy, we didn&#8217;t go into this in much detail, summarising down to a mere 88 words (Taylor et al 2009: 216-217), so maybe this will bear repeating (in more rigorous form) in a future publication.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
<ul>
<li>Gilmore, C.W.  1936.  Osteology of <em>Apatosaurus</em> with special reference to specimens in the Carnegie Museum. Memoirs of the Carnegie Museum 11: 175-300.</li>
<li>Hatcher, J.B. 1901. <em>Diplodocus</em> (Marsh): its osteology, taxonomy and probable habits, with a restoration of the skeleton. Memoirs of the Carnegie Museum 1: 1-63 and plates I-XIII.</li>
<li>Martin, J. 1987. Mobility and feeding of <em>Cetiosaurus</em> (Saurischia, Sauropoda) ­ why the long neck? In: P.J. Currie and E.H. Koster (eds.), Fourth Symposium on Mesozoic Terrestrial Ecosystems, Short Papers, 154­-159. Box-tree Books, Drumheller, Alberta.</li>
<li>Stevens, K.A. 2002. DinoMorph: Parametric modeling of skeletal structures.  Senckenbergiana lethaea 82(1): 23-34.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/5415/798">Stevens, K.A. and Parrish, J.M. 1999. Neck posture and feeding habits of two Jurassic sauropod dinosaurs. Science 284: 798­-800.</a> [Free subscription required]</li>
<li><a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">Taylor, M.P., Wedel, M.J. and Naish, D. 2009. Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 54(2): 213-220.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://sauroposeidon.net/Wedel-et-al_2000a_sauroposeidon.pdf">Wedel, M.J., Cifelli, R.L. and Sanders, R.K. 2000. <em>Sauroposeidon proteles</em>, a new sauropod from the Early Cretaceous of Oklahoma. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 20, 109-114.</a></li>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/sauropod-neck-posture-the-world-responds/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>[I wrote this in the cafe on the ground floor of the BBC's Millbank studios, where I spent much of yesterday, just before I headed off for Paddington and the train home.  I have lightly edited it since the original composition.]</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a day spent doing publicity for <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/sauropods-held-their-necks-erect-just-like-rabbits/">the new SV-POW! paper on sauropod neck posture</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_1395" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/humboldt-diplodocus.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1395" title="humboldt-diplodocus-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/humboldt-diplodocus-480px.jpeg" alt="Two sauropod neck postures for the price of one: Diplodocus (foreground, low neck) and Brachiosaurus (background, high neck) at the Humboldt Museum fur Naturkunde, Berlin." width="480" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Two sauropod neck postures for the price of one: Diplodocus (foreground, low neck) and Brachiosaurus (background, high neck) at the Humboldt Museum fur Naturkunde, Berlin.</p></div>
<p>Overall, there&#8217;s been a little less interest than we were able to rustle up for <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/xenoposeidon-week/"><em>Xenoposeidon</em></a>, but we nevertheless got <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/heads+held+high/3171862">a live TV interview on Channel 4 News</a>, plus radio interviews on <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/mike-on-radio-four-today.mp3">BBC Radio 4&#8217;s Today programme</a>, <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/mike-on-bbc-scotland.mp3">BBC Scotland</a>, <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/mike-on-jon-cuthill-show.mp3">BBC Radio Solent</a> (twice) and finally <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/mike-on-bbc-wales.mp3">BBC Wales</a> (which turned out to be my favourite).  In the mean time, Darren was being interviewed on <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/darren-on-five-live.mp3">BBC Radio 5 Live</a>.  So a very BBC-centric day, with Channel 4 the only independent to take up the story.  (That contrasts with Xeno, when I seemed to spend the whole day doing interviews on the mobile phone for various independent radio stations as I was rushing between studios for the big boys.)</p>
<p>We got pretty good coverage in print, too.  I bought all the national dalies and went through looking for sauropod-neck news.  There was a good third-of-a-page story in Guardian (thanks to their fine science reporter Ian Sample <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/xenoposeidon-week-day-1-and-a-half-the-media/">who also did such a good job on Xeno</a>), and smaller spots in the Times and Independent.  The Telegraph, oddly, in included a nice photo of the NHM <em>Diplodocus</em> with an inset of <a href="http://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/markwitton-diplodocus-scene.jpeg">Mark Witton&#8217;s artwork</a>, but accompanied it with no text other than a 38-word caption. Go figure.  There were brief mentions in the early editions of the Mirror and Sun, although they dropped out in later editions; I couldn&#8217;t find anything in the Mail, the Express or the Star &#8212; I think that&#8217;s everything.  There was a nice bonus in Metro, London&#8217;s free daily, which had half a page on the story including <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/images/full/humboldt-brachiosaurus.jpeg">a nice big photo of the Berlin brachiosaur, with me by its elbow for scale</a>.</p>
<p>As I write this, I&#8217;ve not been able to check on the net and see what the online coverage has been like, beyond a very quick informal scan this morning before I left the house I was staying at for the first radio interview.  I did find a story in the Times that was considerably more detailed that what made it into the print edition, so the same may have been true of other papers, too.  I&#8217;ll see what Google News digs up for me when I get home.  [Update: we're tracking Internet coverage on <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/taylor-et-al-2009-on-neck-posture/">this page</a>.]</p>
<p>A few themes emerged as the sequence of interviews progressed.  Most predictably, lots of interviewers wondered whether this meant that the NHM would have to remount its <em>Diplodocus</em> skeleton.  Not at all: the pose that it&#8217;s in is still a perfectly valid one, which it would have gone through in the transition between drinking and browsing poses; it&#8217;s just not what we think would have been the habitual pose.  Paul Barrett was quoted for the counter-view in several of the printed reports, and made that point (though usually it was reported in truncated form).  The <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8068789.stm">BBC web-site&#8217;s coverage</a> was unusually good in carefully reporting what we&#8217;d actually told everyone, that the mounted pose is one that would have been adopted from time to time, so hopefully no-one at the NHM will come away from thinking we were getting at them.</p>
<p>Another recurring theme was whether Seymour&#8217;s blood-pressure argument was good evidence that our proposed habitual posture is wrong.  I didn&#8217;t want to say too much about this, because our thoughts on the subject are still in the process of approaching their final form and are not ready to be published, but hopefully I was able to say enough to satisfy the interviewers and listeners without giving it all away.</p>
<p>Another point that I tried to make when given the opportunity is that we don&#8217;t see this paper as closing the debate and settling the issue of posture once and for all &#8212; as if that could ever happen for any palaeobiological controversy.  What we hope we&#8217;ve done is at least to reopen the debate and the end the unchallenged reign of the DinoMorph-compliant hangdog pose.  Needless to say, plenty of work remains to be done on the issue of neck posture, and there are now at least two published arguments in favour of each candidate posture. The time may be ripe for a review article.  For now, though, we confidently expect a published response from Kent &#8220;DinoMorph&#8221; Stevens, who we&#8217;ve discussed our work with at some length, and who has had a preprint for a few weeks now so that he could get working on it!  Ah, the cut and thrust of debate &#8212; bring it on!</p>
<h1>Update (later the same evening)</h1>
<p>I have finally managed to make <a href="http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/dino/neck-posture/media/mike-on-steve-harris-show.mp3">an MP3 of the last interview</a> &#8212; the second one with BBC Radio Solent, with Sasha Twining who was standing in on the Steve Harris Show.</p>
<p>And a plea for help: although the Channel 4 News interview is <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/heads+held+high/3171862">still available on Channel 4&#8217;s own site</a>, I know it won&#8217;t last for long &#8212; probably no more than a week &#8212; so if anyone is able to make an MPEG, AVI, FLV or similar of these, please please do, and send it my way.  Thanks!</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Giant dinosaurs 'held heads high']]></title>
<link>http://shaanentertainyou.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/giant-dinosaurs-held-heads-high/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 10:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Gowri Shankar</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Keeping its head down: the Natural History Museum&#8217;s diplodocus will not need to be &#8220;re-p]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-370" title="diplodocus" src="http://shaanentertainyou.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/diplodocus1.jpg?w=150" alt="diplodocus" width="150" height="96" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Keeping its head down: the Natural History Museum&#8217;s diplodocus will not need to be &#8220;re-posed&#8221;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Diplodocus&#8217;s impressive neck sweeps along the main hall of London&#8217;s Natural History museum, welcoming its visitors.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000;">Now, findings suggest that 150 million years ago the giant may have held its head higher for much of the time. By studying the skeletons of living vertebrates, Mike Taylor, from the University of Portsmouth, and his team, reshaped the dinosaur&#8217;s resting pose. But there is more than one way to assemble a dino-skeleton, and more than one theory on the sauropods&#8217; stance.</span></p>
<p><!-- E SF --><span style="color:#0000ff;">Dr Taylor said he is not suggesting that museums should re-pose their long-necked sauropod skeletons from the current horizontal position to a more upright posture. &#8220;The diplodocus in the main hall vestibule of the Natural History Museum is in a perfectly good posture,&#8221; he told BBC News. &#8220;It&#8217;s one within a whole range of movement that would have been entirely possible.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#ff6600;">But, after studying X-rays of members of 10 different vertebrate groups, Dr Taylor is convinced that when they were not reaching down for a drink, the sauropods stood with their heads held very high indeed. With their necks aloft, like giraffes, the dinosaurs would have towered up to 15m above the ground.</span></p>
<p><strong>Living model</strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000;">Dr Taylor and his colleagues found that the necks of mammals and birds &#8211; the only modern groups that share the upright leg posture of dinosaurs &#8211; are &#8220;strongly inclined&#8221; vertically. &#8220;Our approach was embarrassingly straightforward,&#8221; said Dr Taylor. &#8220;We looked at real animals, and at the whole animal.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#ff6600;">Bones can only give us so much information, he explained, and the soft tissue in the animal&#8217;s huge neck could &#8220;enable greater flexibility than the bones alone suggest&#8221;. Some of the earliest reconstructions of sauropod skeletons &#8211; in the late 19th and early 20th Century &#8211; were posed with erect necks, so the idea is not new. &#8220;It&#8217;s largely in recent years that this view has changed,&#8221; Dr Taylor said. &#8220;But we can be confident that they held their heads upright.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Many scientists, however, still maintain a more horizontal view. And a recent paper, published by Australian scientist Roger Seymour in the journal Biology Letters, went even further. It suggested that the creatures would not actually be able to lift their heads up to eat from high trees, because this would raise their brains so far above their hearts that their blood pressure would have to be elevated to a dangerous &#8211; possibly lethal &#8211; level.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800080;">But Dr Taylor is not swayed by this argument.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800080;">&#8220;There are some [living animals] where the heart is able to exert much greater pressure than Seymour&#8217;s equations predict [is possible]. We don&#8217;t see why that couldn&#8217;t also be true in sauropods.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><strong>Heads up</strong></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-372" title="Sauropods" src="http://shaanentertainyou.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/sauropods1.jpg?w=150" alt="Sauropods" width="150" height="112" /></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000;">Paul Barrett, a palaeontologist from London&#8217;s Natural History Museum, thinks the sauropods were likely to have been able to lift their heads high, but he remains unconvinced that would have been their &#8220;resting posture&#8221;. &#8220;It would require lots of muscular activity, and put a lot of strain on their hearts,&#8221; he said.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#ff6600;">Dr Barrett explained that, since it is impossible to know how thick the pads of connective tissue between the dinosaurs&#8217; vertebrae were, it is difficult to estimate how much of a role this tissue, along with muscles and tendons, played in the animals&#8217; range of movement.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">&#8220;Sauropods are bizarre,&#8221; he told BBC News. &#8220;There is no living animal built in the same way.&#8221; So, although the study of living animals&#8217; skeletons is very valuable, he added, &#8220;finding a model to explain the biology of these creatures is not that easy&#8221;.</span></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Sauropods held their necks erect ... just like rabbits]]></title>
<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/sauropods-held-their-necks-erect-just-like-rabbits/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Welcome, one and all, to Taylor, Wedel and Naish (2009), Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Welcome, one and all, to Taylor, Wedel and Naish (2009), <em>Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals</em>.  It&#8217;s the first published paper by the SV-POW! team working <em>as</em> a team, published in <a href="http://app.pan.pl/">Acta Palaeontologica Polonica</a>, and freely available for download <a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">here</a>.</p>
<p>Far, far back in the uncharted depths of history, silly people like Osborn and Mook (1921:pl. 84), Janensch (1950b: pl. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> and Paul (1988:fig. 1), who didn&#8217;t know any better, used to depict sauropods with their necks held strongly elevated.</p>
<div id="attachment_1294" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/janensch1950b-plate-viii-brachiosaurus-brancai-reconstruction.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1294" title="Janensch1950b-plate-VIII-brachiosaurus-brancai-reconstruction-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/janensch1950b-plate-viii-brachiosaurus-brancai-reconstruction-480px.jpeg" alt="The classic reconstruction of Brachiosaurus brancai, from Janensch (1950b: plate VIII)" width="480" height="330" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The classic reconstruction of Brachiosaurus brancai, from Janensch (1950b: plate VIII.  (For some reason, WordPress doesn&#39;t allow italics in these captions, hence the roman-font taxonomic names.)</p></div>
<p>All that began to change with Martin&#8217;s (1987) short paper in the Mesozoic Terrestrial Ecosystems volume, and was then turned upside-down by Stevens and Parrish&#8217;s (1999) seminal paper in <em>Science</em>: two and a half pages that transformed the way the world looked at sauropods.</p>
<div id="attachment_1320" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/lcm-cetiosaurus-neck.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1320" title="lcm-cetiosaurus-neck-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/lcm-cetiosaurus-neck-480px.jpeg" alt="xxx" width="480" height="274" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The subhorizontally mounted neck of the Rutland Cetiosaurus skeleton at the Leicester City Museum, in right posterolateral view.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_1287" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/mike-with-cetiosaurus-neck.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1287" title="mike-with-cetiosaurus-neck-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/mike-with-cetiosaurus-neck-480px1.jpeg" alt="Median part of the subhorizontally mounted neck of the Rutland Cetiosaurus skeleton at the Leicester City Museum, left lateral view.  Mike Taylor for scale." width="480" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The median part of the subhorizontally mounted neck of the Rutland Cetiosaurus skeleton at the Leicester City Museum, in left lateral view.  Mike Taylor for scale.</p></div>
<p>John Martin looked at the cervical vertebrae of the Rutland specimen of <em>Cetiosaurus oxoniensis</em>, and concluded that the joints between them couldn&#8217;t be as flexible as people thought.  He reconstructed that animal&#8217;s neck in a low, near-horizontal pose, and with a very narrow range of movement that didn&#8217;t allow it to raise its head far above shoulder level.  Stevens and Parrish brought more rigour to this approach by modelling the cervical articulations of two sauropods (<em>Diplodocus carnegii</em> and <em>Apatosaurus lousiae</em>) using a computer program of their own devising, <a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/dinosaurs.html">DinoMorph</a>.  And as most SV-POW! regulars will probably know, they got results similar to Martin&#8217;s, showing neutral positions for both animals that were well below horizontal, and finding restricted ranges of motion.  (&#8220;neutral pose&#8221; here means that the vertebra are aligned such that the <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/tutorial-2-basic-vertebral-anatomy/">zygapophyses</a> overlap as much as possible.)</p>
<div id="attachment_1290" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1290" title="Stevens2002-diplodocus-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/stevens2002-diplodocus-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus carnegii, DinoMorph computer model , showing neutral neck posture, and limits of flexibility.  From Stevens (2002:fig. 6a).  [Note that Stevens's more recent models show a slightly higher neck due to its leaving the torso at a less steep angle.]" width="480" height="223" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus carnegii, DinoMorph computer model , showing neutral neck posture, and limits of dorsal and ventral flexibility.  From Stevens (2002:fig. 6a).   (Note that Stevens&#39;s more recent models show a slightly higher neck due to its leaving the torso at a less steep angle.)</p></div>The DinoMorph posture was quickly adopted as orthodox, and got a lot of exposure in the BBC&#8217;s classic CGIumentary, <em>Walking With Dinosaurs</em>: episode 2, <em>Time of the Titans</em>, was primarily about <em>Diplodocus</em>, and under Stevens&#8217;s consultancy showed them as having obligate low posture throughout the show.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_1291" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/wwd5.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1291" title="wwd5-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/wwd5-480px.jpeg" alt="A still from the BBC Walking With Dinosaurs, episode 2, Time of the Titans, showing Diplodocus in a DinoMorph-compliant posture with a low, horizontal neck.  Image copyright the BBC." width="480" height="268" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A still from Walking With Dinosaurs, episode 2, Time of the Titans, showing Diplodocus in a DinoMorph-compliant posture with a low, horizontal neck.  Image copyright the BBC.</p></div>
<p>The new horizontal-neck orthodoxy was also reinforced by <a href="http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/Kaibridge/AMNH/">an exhibition at the American Museum of Natural History</a> featuring a physical metal sculpture of a DinoMorph model:</p>
<div id="attachment_1293" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/kents-08.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1293" title="KentS-08-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/kents-08-480px.jpg" alt="Physical DinoMorph model at the AMNH, with horizontal-neck advocate Kent Stevens.  Photograph by Rick Edwards, AMNH " width="480" height="319" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Physical DinoMorph model at the AMNH, with horizontal-neck advocate Kent Stevens.  Photograph by Rick Edwards, AMNH </p></div>
<p>This brings us pretty much up to date: there&#8217;s been very little in the way of published dissent between 1999 and now, and a couple more Stevens and Parrish papers have reinforced their contention.  Upchurch (2000) published a half-page response to the DinoMorph paper, and Andreas Christian has put out a sequence of papers arguing for an erect neck posture in <em>Brachiosaurus brancai</em> on the basis that this best equalises stress along the intervertebral joints (e.g. Christian and Dzemski 2007), but otherwise all dissent from the DinoMorph posture has been limited to unpublished venues: for example, Greg Paul has posted several messages on the Dinosaur Mailing List disputing the low-necked posture, but has yet to put any of his arguments in print.</p>
<p>But enough of this dinosaury stuff.  Let&#8217;s look at a nice, cuddly bunny:</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/wild-rabbit-41946.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1297" title="wild-rabbit-41946-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/wild-rabbit-41946-480px.jpg" alt="wild-rabbit-41946-480px" width="480" height="320" /></a></p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s the thing: you wouldn&#8217;t guess by looking at it, but that rabbit has a vertical neck.  In fact, it&#8217;s more than vertical: it&#8217;s so upright that it bends back on itself.  Don&#8217;t believe me?  Then take a look at this X-ray of an unrestrained awake rabbit:</p>
<div id="attachment_1335" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/vidaletal1986-fig4b-rabbit1.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1335" title="VidalEtAl1986-fig4b-rabbit" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/vidaletal1986-fig4b-rabbit1.jpeg" alt="Unrestrained awake rabbit, left lateral view, in X-ray, showing vertical neck. From Vidal et al. (1986:fig. 4B)" width="480" height="384" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Unrestrained awake rabbit, left lateral view, in X-ray, showing vertical neck. From Vidal et al. (1986:fig. 4B)</p></div>
<p>Amazing.</p>
<p>Can it be that rabbits have unusual cervical vertebrae, such that when you articulate them in neutral pose they curve strongly upwards?  No: and to prove it, here is (ahem) Taylor, Wedel and Naish (2009: fig. 1):</p>
<div id="attachment_1299" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/tayloretal2009-fig1-reversed-lepus-capensis.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1299" title="TaylorEtAl2009-fig1-reversed-lepus-capensis-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/tayloretal2009-fig1-reversed-lepus-capensis-480px.jpeg" alt="Taylor et al. (2009: fig. 1), reverse for easy comparison with the previous two images: skull and cervical skeleton of the Cape hare (Lepus capensis) in neutral pose and in maximal extension" width="480" height="344" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Taylor et al. (2009: fig. 1), reversed for easy comparison with the previous two images: skull and cervical skeleton of the Cape hare (Lepus capensis) in neutral pose and in maximal extension</p></div>
<p>(Yes, this is a hare rather than a rabbit, but it&#8217;s close enough for government work.)  What we found was that it was only possible to get the cervical skeleton anywhere near the habitual life posture by cranking all the proximal cervical joints up as far as they could physically go.  In fact, it seems that some of the joints in the live animal flex <em>more</em> than the dry bones can &#8212; presumably due to intervertebral cartilage moving the centra further apart.</p>
<p>And this is fully in accord with the findings of Vidal et al. (1986), who X-rayed a selected of life animals (human, monkey, cat, rabbit, rat, guinea pig, chicken, monitor lizard, frog) and found that the neck is inclined in all but the frog.  Furthermore, in all the mammals and reptiles, they found that:</p>
<ul>
<li>the cervical column is elevated nearly to the vertical during normal functioning;</li>
<li>the middle part of the neck is habitually held relatively rigid;</li>
<li>the neck is maximally extended at the cervico-dorsal junction and maximally flexed at the cranio-cervical junction; and</li>
<li>it is the cranio-cervical and cervico-dorsal junctions that are primarily involved in raising and lowering the head and neck.</li>
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<p>(In life, these facts are obscured from view by soft tissue.)</p>
<p>We also looked at unpublished live-alligator X-rays (thanks to Leon Claessens for access to these) and found that even in these ectothermic sprawlers, the neck is habitually elevated above neutral pose.  Published X-rays of turtles and even (slightly) salamanders also showed the same tendency.</p>
<p>So what does this mean for sauropods?  Simply, unless they were different from <em>all</em> extant terrestrial amniotes, they did not habitually hold their necks in neutral position, but raised well above horizontal.  And if they resembled their closest relatives, the birds &#8212; and the only other homeothermic and erect-legged group, the mammals &#8212; then their necks were <em>strongly</em> inclined.  As in, all the proximal cervicals were habitually cranked into the most erect positions they could attain.  Kind of like this:</p>
<div id="attachment_1301" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/natural2-bones.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1301" title="natural2-bones-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/natural2-bones-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus carnegii head, neck and anterior torso, right lateral view, articulated in habitual posture as hypothesised by Taylor et al. (2009).  Skull and vertebrae from Hatcher (1901)." width="480" height="383" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus carnegii head, neck and anterior torso, right lateral view, articulated in habitual posture as hypothesised by Taylor et al. (2009).  Skull and vertebrae from Hatcher (1901).</p></div>
<p>Which is a looong way form the DinoMorph posture that we were all getting used to but couldn&#8217;t learn to love.  What do you know?  Turns out that Osborn and Mook, and Janensch, were right after all.</p>
<p>So that, in a nutshell, is the contention of the first SV-POW! paper: that sauropods held their heads up high.  That&#8217;s not to say that they <em>couldn&#8217;t</em> bring them lower when they wanted to &#8212; of course they could, otherwise they&#8217;d have been unable to drink &#8212; but we believe the evidence from extant animals says that they spent the bulk of their time with their heads held high.</p>
<p>I leave you with this rather beautiful piece that noted pterosaurophile Mark Witton drew to illustrate our favoured posture.  Enjoy!</p>
<div id="attachment_1302" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/markwitton-diplodocus-scene.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1302" title="MarkWitton-Diplodocus-scene-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/markwitton-diplodocus-scene-480px.jpeg" alt="Diplodocus herd -- mostly with necks in habitual raised posture, with one individual drinking.  By Mark Witton." width="480" height="304" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diplodocus herd -- mostly with necks in habitual raised posture, with one individual drinking.  By Mark Witton.</p></div>
<p>Stay tuned for more on neck posture &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong></p>
<p>For more cool stuff about the paper, including blog and media coverage and the chance to hear Mike on BBC Radio(!), see <a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/papers-by-sv-powsketeers/taylor-et-al-2009-on-neck-posture/">our page about the paper</a> on the sidebar.</p>
<h1>References</h1>
<ul>
<li>Christian, A. and Dzemski, G. 2007. Reconstruction of the cervical skeleton posture of <em>Brachiosaurus brancai</em> Janensch, 1914 by an analysis of the intervertebral stress along the neck and a comparison with the results of different approaches. Fossil Record 10: 38-­49.</li>
<li>Janensch, W. 1950b. Die Skelettrekonstruktion von <em>Brachiosaurus brancai</em>. Palaeontographica (Supplement 7): 97-­103.</li>
<li>Martin, J. 1987. Mobility and feeding of <em>Cetiosaurus</em> (Saurischia, Sauropoda) ­ why the long neck? In: P.J. Currie and E.H. Koster (eds.), Fourth Sympo- sium on Mesozoic Terrestrial Ecosystems, Short Papers, 154­-159. Box- tree Books, Drumheller, Alberta.</li>
<li>Osborn, H.F. and Mook, C.C. 1921. <em>Camarasaurus</em>, <em>Amphicoelias</em>, and other sauropods of Cope. Memoirs of the American Museum of Natural History, new series 3: 246­-387.</li>
<li>Paul, G.S. 1988. The brachiosaur giants of the Morrison and Tendaguru with a description of a new subgenus, <em>Giraffatitan</em>, and a comparison of the world&#8217;s largest dinosaurs. Hunteria 2 (3): 1­-14.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/5415/798">Stevens, K.A. and Parrish, J.M. 1999. Neck posture and feeding habits of two Jurassic sauropod dinosaurs. Science 284: 798­-800.</a> [Free subscription required]</li>
<li><a href="http://www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app54/app54-213.pdf">Taylor, M.P., Wedel, M.J. and Naish, D. 2009. Head and neck posture in sauropod dinosaurs inferred from extant animals. Acta Palaeontologica Polonica 54(2): 213-220.</a></li>
<li>Upchurch, P. 2000. Neck posture of sauropod dinosaurs. Science 287: 547b.</li>
<li>Vidal, P.P., Graf, W., and Berthoz, A. 1986. The orientation of the cervical vertebral column in unrestrained awake animals. Experimental Brain Research 61: 549­-559.</li>
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<description><![CDATA[Diplodocus crecio entre Mississippi y Florida, tiene fascinacion por los dinosaurios, los misterios ]]></description>
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<p><em>Diplodocus</em> crecio entre Mississippi y Florida, tiene fascinacion por los dinosaurios, los misterios de los pantanos surenios, la violencia extrema, los comics y el funk carioca; todo esto lo plasmo en su primer disco, aunque cuando este salio el ya tenia un nombre como DJ y productor underground de hip hop. Cuando encuentre el mixtape <em>Piracy Funds Terrorism</em> que grabo con <em>M.I.A.</em> (a quien le hizo un chamaco) lo posteare por aca para que se den un quemon, mientras entrenle a este que esta re bueno.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?wyzozt5nmkn">http://www.mediafire.com/?wyzozt5nmkn</a></p>
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<link>http://svpow.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/behold-the-righteous-wrath-of-sv-pow/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Isn&#8217;t this a beauty? Alleged &quot;Diplodocus dorsal bone&quot;, posterior view What is it, yo]]></description>
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<div id="attachment_1083" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/03/i_m_chait_alleged_diplodocus_dorsal.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1083" title="i_m_chait_alleged_diplodocus_dorsal-500px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/03/i_m_chait_alleged_diplodocus_dorsal-500px.jpeg" alt="Alleged &#34;Diplodocus dorsal bone&#34;, posterior view" width="480" height="381" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Alleged &#34;Diplodocus dorsal bone&#34;, posterior view</p></div>
<p>What is it, you ask?   We will never know.  A friend of mine pointed me to a forthcoming <a href="http://www.chait.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=NH0903+++248+&#38;refno=++109899&#38;saletype=">fossil auction by I. M. Chait</a>, and as I scrolled through all the crappy ornithopod skeletons and suchlike, my eye was caught by this bone, described as a &#8220;Diplodocus dorsal bone&#8221;, from the Bone Cabin quarry in Wyoming.  &#8220;<span>The dorsal bone most likely came from close to the back of the head[?!]&#8220;.</span></p>
<p>Whatever it is, it ain&#8217;t <em>Diplodocus</em>: the metapophyses are too low, the intraspinal trough is not deep enough, the diapophyses are too high up, they&#8217;re laterally rather than ventrolaterally inclined, the hyposphene is way too big and too triangular, the centrum is subquadrangular rather than ovoid, the centropostzygapophyseal laminae are absent &#8230; I could go on.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, here is the complete set of <em>Dipodocus carnegii</em> dorsals, from Hatcher (1901: plate VIII): posterior to anterior running from left to right; anterior, posterior and right lateral views from top to bottom.</p>
<div id="attachment_1084" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 490px"><a href="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/03/hatcher1901-plate-xiii-diplodocus-carnegii-dorsals.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1084" title="hatcher1901-plate-xiii-diplodocus-carnegii-dorsals-480px" src="http://svpow.wordpress.com/files/2009/03/hatcher1901-plate-xiii-diplodocus-carnegii-dorsals-480px.jpeg" alt="hatcher1901-plate-xiii-diplodocus-carnegii-dorsals-480px" width="480" height="295" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hatcher 1901, plate XIII: dorsal vertebrae of Diplodocus carnegii CM 84</p></div>
<p>Not even close.</p>
<p>So what actually <em>is</em> the for-sale vertebra?  Of course there is only so much you can say from a single photograph, but it looks very much as though this is something new, as yet undescribed.  Unknown to science, in fact.  I say that largely because of the those bizarre dorsolaterally oriented struts which extend from the sides of the neural arch to meet and merge with the diapophyses.  I don&#8217;t recall ever having seen anything like that.  In general proportions, too, this vertebra is distinctly odd.</p>
<p>Unknown to science it is, and unknown to science it will remain &#8212; if, as seems likely, some rich idiot buys this as a trophy to sit on his cocktail bar.  Hence the righeous fury alluded to in the title: so far as the wider world is concerned, so far as our understanding of Morrison Formation ecological diversity is concerned, so far as our understanding of sauropod disparity is concerned, this vertebra might just as well have stayed in the ground.</p>
<p>Unless.</p>
<p>If anyone reading this blog <em>is</em> a rich benefactor, then just maybe this vert could be rescued: bought by someone who appreciates its scientific significance, and donated to an accredited museum, where it can be properly reposited and scientifically studied.  So if any of you out there have $5000 to spare and fancy a decent chance at getting a sauropod named after you, you know what to do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve hestitated about publishing this post, because of the danger that it will become sufficiently widely known to push the price up.  The last thing I want is to make more money for the fossil dealers responsible for taking this thing out of the hands of scientists.  But I figured it&#8217;s worth the risk.  Let&#8217;s hope I&#8217;m right.</p>
<p>[To be absolutely clear: I. M. Chait did <em>not</em> solicit me to write this, neither do they even know about it, and I am pretty sure they would not be happy about it if they did.]</p>
<h1>Reference</h1>
<ul>
<li>Hatcher, Jonathan Bell.  1901.  <em>Diplodocus</em> (Marsh): its osteology, taxonomy and probable habits, with a restoration of the skeleton.  Memoirs of the Carnegie Museum, 1: 1-63 and plates I-XIII.</li>
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<h1>Update (23 March 2009)</h1>
<p>We have heard from an SV-POW! reader who is looking into buying this specimen and donating it to a museum.  Which would be awesome.  (I won&#8217;t mention his or her name at this stage until he or she authorises me to do so.)  That being so, please no-one else try the same thing &#8212; we last thing we want is for two readers to get into a bidding war!</p>
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<description><![CDATA[Le vent dans les branches dénudées des arbres du jardin, le stress infime avant l’entretien, penser ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Le vent dans les branches dénudées des arbres du jardin, le stress infime avant l’entretien, penser à lui, très fort, très très fort, écouter cette douce voix qui vient du Nord et prendre des photos par centaine, par millier.</p>
<p>Garder ces petites choses qui ne servent à rien, feuilleter MacLean et <a href="http://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/catalogue/index.php?ean13=9782707156297"><em>sa vision du ciel</em></a>, Fitzgerald et Canty, une tartine à la fraise dans une main, une tartine à la framboise dans l’autre.</p>
<p>Découvrir <em><a href="http://www.khm.com.au/artist.php?artist=glen_proebstel&#38;category=stylist&#38;menu=start">Glen Proebstel</a></em> et regretter <em><a href="http://www.insideout.com.au/">Inside Out</a></em>, une revue Ma-Gni-Fique qui vient d’Australie, éteindre la télé et écrire à Pascale.</p>
<p>Ouvrir grand les fenêtres, cueillir les violettes, réapprendre à conter, avancer sur l’essai.</p>
<p>Faire place à la nouveauté ; un nouveau collier, un nouveau bureau, de nouveaux projets…</p>
<p>Un lundi matin, profiter d’un week-end prolongé, s’étirer sous la couette comme un chat avant de se lever et se préparer un thé avec de gros biscuits italiens.</p>
<p>Parfois, tout ça me semble anodin.<br />
Et d’autres fois, j’accorde une importance folle à tous ces petits faits du quotidien…</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-467" title="diplo" src="http://imabree.wordpress.com/files/2009/03/diplo.jpg" alt="diplo" width="351" height="527" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>*.* petit collier trouvé chez <a href="http://www.diplodocus.fr/">Diplodocus</a></em><em>, une enseigne rigolote *.*</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">{merci à <a href="http://desiretoinspire.blogspot.com/">Desire to Inspire</a> pour la belle découverte des photos de Glen}</p>
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