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<title><![CDATA[Marriage is like Christ and the Church]]></title>
<link>http://bkingr.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/marriage-is-like-christ-and-the-church/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bkingr</dc:creator>
<guid>http://bkingr.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/marriage-is-like-christ-and-the-church/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[this is the important responsibility that married people have. To demonstrate the relationship of Ch]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[A Distinct Bugle Sound]]></title>
<link>http://nwcc.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/a-distinct-bugle-sound/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>nwcc</dc:creator>
<guid>http://nwcc.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/a-distinct-bugle-sound/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[As a kid, I used to really enjoy the cowboy movies, we were shown on TV; especially the ones where t]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[No desperdicies tu vida.]]></title>
<link>http://jovenesfb.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/ndtv/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Misael S Mejía</dc:creator>
<guid>http://jovenesfb.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/ndtv/</guid>
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<title><![CDATA[John Piper Echoing Wayne Grudem's Contention that NT Prophecy Differs from OT Prophecy]]></title>
<link>http://endued.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/john-piper-echoing-wayne-grudems-contention-that-nt-prophecy-differs-from-ot-prophecy/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rick Hogaboam</dc:creator>
<guid>http://endued.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/john-piper-echoing-wayne-grudems-contention-that-nt-prophecy-differs-from-ot-prophecy/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Piper contends along the same lines as Wayne Grudem that NT prophecy was of a different character th]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Por que é difícil levar o inferno a sério ?]]></title>
<link>http://nacontramaodomundo.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/por-que-e-dificil-levar-o-inferno-a-serio/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Taigor</dc:creator>
<guid>http://nacontramaodomundo.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/por-que-e-dificil-levar-o-inferno-a-serio/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[por John Piper. _____________________________________________ Seminário de Intercessão | Diante do T]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[por John Piper. _____________________________________________ Seminário de Intercessão | Diante do T]]></content:encoded>
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<title><![CDATA[John Piper vs Me]]></title>
<link>http://alistairmetcalfe.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/john-piper-vs-me/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Alistair Metcalfe</dc:creator>
<guid>http://alistairmetcalfe.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/john-piper-vs-me/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[John Piper, from his depth of wisdom and insight, wrote: The more deeply you walk with Christ, the h]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><strong>John Piper, from his depth of wisdom and insight, wrote:<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/OnlineBooks/ByTitle/1591_A_Hunger_for_God/"><img class="alignright" style="margin:10px;" src="http://www.desiringgod.org/media/images/products/BHFG/bhfg_medium.jpg" alt="" width="157" height="238" /></a></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>The more deeply you walk with Christ, the hungrier you get for Christ &#8230; the more homesick you get for heaven &#8230; the more you want &#8216;all the fullness of God&#8217; &#8230; the more you want to be done with sin &#8230; the more you want the Bridegroom to come again &#8230; the more you want the Church revived and purified with the beauty of Jesus &#8230; the more you want a great awakening to God&#8217;s reality in the cities &#8230; the more you want to see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ penetrate the darkness of all the unreached peoples of the world &#8230; the more you want to see false worldviews yield to the force of the Truth &#8230; the more you want to see pain relieved and tears wiped away and death destroyed &#8230; the more you long for every wrong to be made right and the justice and grace of God to fill the earth like the waters cover the sea. (<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/OnlineBooks/ByTitle/1591_A_Hunger_for_God/">A Hunger for God</a>).</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>And, I, from mine, added:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>The more I overlook my walk with Christ,<strong> </strong>the hungrier I get for my own success &#8230; the more I want to escape my own life to something better &#8230; the more I feel that sin no longer has any power over me &#8230; the more I seek to defend my own position &#8230; the more I wish to be exalted, consulted and admired &#8230; the more I want things to go my own way &#8230; the more I want to do only the things I have a passion for &#8230; the more I take my friends and family for granted &#8230; the more I think people should feel the way I do &#8230; the more I find it easy to make the Church my platform &#8230; the more I seek to manage my reputation &#8230; the more I find myself feeling sick to my stomach.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Who wants to go deeper?</strong></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Strong Words on Twitter]]></title>
<link>http://priorityjesus.org/2009/11/27/strong-words-on-twitter/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nick Seipel</dc:creator>
<guid>http://priorityjesus.org/2009/11/27/strong-words-on-twitter/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[John Piper wrote the following powerful statement from his twitter account. A tweet worth reading! P]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>John Piper wrote the following powerful statement from his twitter account.  A tweet worth reading!  Pause and consider.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the great uses of Twitter and Facebook will be to prove at the Last Day that prayerlessness was not from lack of time.&#8221; &#8211; John Piper</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Brain food]]></title>
<link>http://bkingr.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/brain-food/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bkingr</dc:creator>
<guid>http://bkingr.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/brain-food/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[for the day after Thanksgiving here is some brain food from John Piper and G.K. Chesterton. G. K. Ch]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[for the day after Thanksgiving here is some brain food from John Piper and G.K. Chesterton. G. K. Ch]]></content:encoded>
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<title><![CDATA[Free "Desiring God" audiobook this NOVEMBER only]]></title>
<link>http://paulman.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/free-desiring-god-audiobook-this-november-only/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Paulman</dc:creator>
<guid>http://paulman.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/free-desiring-god-audiobook-this-november-only/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[This is a little late, but for a few remaining days you can download John Piper&#8217;s classic, ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>This is a little late, but for a few remaining days you can download John Piper&#8217;s classic, &#8220;Desiring God&#8221;, free as an audiobook download from christianaudio.com.</p>
<p>All you need to do is go to <a href="http://christianaudio.com/desiringgod">http://christianaudio.com/desiringgod</a> and select Download ($7.49), and then click on Add to Cart.  Then proceed to Checkout, create an account, and then put in <strong>DG2009</strong> as your coupon code and it will be FREE (if for some reason it doesn&#8217;t work, try <strong>NOV2009</strong>)!</p>
<p>Remember, this deal is only for the month of November, so you have about 4 days left!</p>
<p>Oh, wow, and I just realized that they have a bunch of other John Piper items available for free right now (<a href="http://christianaudio.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=DG-">click here</a>).  I think those might not be time sensitive, though.</p>
<p><em>For those who enjoy audiobooks in general, you may want to check out this free trial from Audible.com that you have the option of canceling but still receive two free audiobooks from.</em></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Attribution in Fiction: How ?]]></title>
<link>http://richcoffeen.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/attribution-in-fiction-how/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>richcoffeen</dc:creator>
<guid>http://richcoffeen.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/attribution-in-fiction-how/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[On page 262 of The Discipling of Mytra, I paraphrase some material from John Piper&#8217;s What]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>On page 262 of <em>The Discipling of Mytra</em>, I paraphrase some material from John Piper&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Difference-Manhood-Womanhood-According/dp/1581342918">What&#8217;s the Difference?</a></em></p>
<p>Before publication I kept wondering how to acknowledge the wording I had borrowed from Piper. Novels don&#8217;t have footnotes, after all. Then I forgot about the issue entirely. Only after publication did I remember that I had never found a solution. So unfortunately in the current edition there is no attribution given to Piper for his very helpful teaching on gender. This blog will have to do for now.</p>
<p>I want to fix this in the next printing. My question is how? Do I mention Piper&#8217;s work in the introduction? On the acknowledgements page? Somewhere else? Any advice you can give would be much appreciated.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Three Grateful People on Giving Thanks]]></title>
<link>http://thetwobooks.com/2009/11/25/three-grateful-authors-on-giving-thanks/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JT Caldwell</dc:creator>
<guid>http://thetwobooks.com/2009/11/25/three-grateful-authors-on-giving-thanks/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[For your next four days&#8217; enjoyment, here are three articles and an audio message to stimulate ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>For your next four days&#8217; enjoyment, here are three articles and an audio message to stimulate one another to love and thanksgiving, as we celebrate God&#8217;s goodness toward us in Christ together:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ccef.org/thankfulness-even-when-it-hurts-0">Thankfulness: Even When It Hurts</a> by Sue Lutz</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ccef.org/thankful-people">Thankful People</a> by David Powlison</p>
<p><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Articles/ByDate/1995/1550_How_Not_to_Commit_Idolatry_in_Giving_Thanks/">How Not to Commit Idolatry in Giving Thanks</a> by John Piper</p>
<p><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/2114_who_should_we_invite_to_thanksgiving_dinner/">Who Should We Invite to Thanksgiving Dinner?</a> by John Piper</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Are You Feeding Your Faith?]]></title>
<link>http://secondmilechurch.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/are-you-feeding-your-faith/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>lukesimmons</dc:creator>
<guid>http://secondmilechurch.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/are-you-feeding-your-faith/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Check out this brief, brilliant article by John Piper, &#8220;Please Feed Me More!&#8221; His openin]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Check out this brief, brilliant article by John Piper, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/1997/3061_Please_Feed_Me_More/" target="_blank">&#8220;Please Feed Me More!&#8221;</a></p>
<p>His opening paragraph:</p>
<blockquote><p>Faith feeds on the word of God. Without a steady diet it gets weaker and weaker. If you are dissatisfied with your Christian courage and joy and purity of heart, check the way you are feeding your faith.</p></blockquote>
<p>May you feed your soul as much as you&#8217;ll feed your body this Thanksgiving!</p>
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<title><![CDATA[John Piper - The Fear of Being Useless]]></title>
<link>http://itsallbygrace.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/john-piper-the-fear-of-being-useless-2/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TOTUL PRIN HAR</dc:creator>
<guid>http://itsallbygrace.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/john-piper-the-fear-of-being-useless-2/</guid>
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<title><![CDATA["Make War" on Sin]]></title>
<link>http://magnifychrist.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/make-war-on-sin/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
<guid>http://magnifychrist.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/make-war-on-sin/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Though this will not be to everyone&#8217;s musical tastes, this is likely the greatest anthem encou]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Though this will not be to everyone&#8217;s musical tastes, this is likely the greatest anthem encouraging believers to fight against sin.  You may not like the sound, but you can&#8217;t argue with the theology!</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/RZoSiDDja0Y&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/RZoSiDDja0Y&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the explanation of the song:</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Sausage]]></title>
<link>http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/sausage-22/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
<guid>http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/sausage-22/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Links, glorious links! What the early church taught about money and material wealth. Do missionaries]]></description>
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<p>What the early church taught about <a href="http://www.nathancolquhoun.com/2009/11/24/early-church-fathers-thoughts-on-money-and-wealth">money and material wealth</a>.</p>
<p>Do missionaries <a href="http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2009/11/23/after-purification/">inadvertently spread secularism</a>? A case study on modernity using Indonesia and Dutch missionaries.</p>
<p>Piper on <a href="http://www.joshharris.com/2009/11/john_piper_on_the_ruinous_ethi.php">putting things off</a>.</p>
<p>No one told <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/729941--frightened-deer-captured-in-downtown-core?bn=1">this creature</a> that the land between the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_River_(Ontario)">Humber</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_River_(Ontario)">Don</a> isn&#8217;t for her kind any more.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Top 10 Devotional Classics]]></title>
<link>http://modernpensees.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/top-10-devotional-classics/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Michael Graham</dc:creator>
<guid>http://modernpensees.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/top-10-devotional-classics/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[J.C. Ryle: Bishop of Liverpool 1.  Holiness by J.C. Ryle  [y, l, e, p, s] Put your helmet and pads o]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div id="attachment_323" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 286px"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holiness-Nature-Hindrances-Difficulties-Roots/dp/1598562223/ref=modepens-20"><img class="size-full wp-image-323" title="J C Ryle" src="http://modernpensees.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/j-c-ryle.jpg" alt="" width="276" height="344" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">J.C. Ryle:  Bishop of Liverpool</p></div>
<p>1.  <a title="Holiness" href="http://www.amazon.com/Holiness-Nature-Hindrances-Difficulties-Roots/dp/1598562223/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Holiness</a> by J.C. Ryle  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Put your helmet and pads on because you are gonna get trucked.  This is probably the most convicting book I have ever read.  I got to visit Ryle&#8217;s grave in Liverpool, England, he was very tall and had a large beard.</p>
<p>2.  <a title="Pensees" href="http://www.amazon.com/Pensees-Penguin-Classics-Blaise-Pascal/dp/0140446451/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Pensees</a> by Blaise Pascal  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Most do not think of <em>Pensees </em>as a devotional work.  I do.  Read it slow and meditate, it will warm your soul.</p>
<p>3.  <a title="Pursuit of God" href="http://www.amazon.com/Pursuit-God-Library-W-Tozer/dp/1926777069/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Pursuit of God</a> by A.W. Tozer  [c, y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Chapters 1-3 alone are worth the price of the book.  Tozer wrote this one night on a train ride!  He gets at the root of sin.</p>
<p>4.  <a title="Pursuit of Man" href="http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Pursuit-Man-W-Tozer/dp/160066184X/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Pursuit of Man</a> by A.W. Tozer  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Almost no one has read this gem.  In my view it is almost as good as <em>Pursuit of God</em> and better than <em>Knowledge of the Holy</em>.</p>
<p>5.  <a title="Religious Affections" href="http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Affections-Christians-Character-Before/dp/1573832405/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Religious Affections</a> by Jonathan Edwards  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Edwards makes sense of our emotion and affection for God.  He was also <a title="Edwards" href="http://modernpensees.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/thoughts-on-evangelicalism-past-present-and-future%E2%80%A6-part-2/" target="_self">instrumental in reuniting the Presbyterians</a> who were divided on what to think about the First Great Awakening.</p>
<p>6.  <a title="Desiring God" href="http://www.amazon.com/Desiring-God-Meditations-Christian-Hedonist/dp/1590521196/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Desiring God</a> by John Piper  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>This book can be slow and awkward at times but it is well worth the read.  He defines and defends the idea of Christian Hedonism, borrowing heavily from Jonathan Edwards and #5 on this list.</p>
<p>7.  <a title="Devotional Classics" href="http://www.amazon.com/Devotional-Classics-Selected-Readings-Individuals/dp/0060777508/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Devotional Classics</a> by Foster and Smith  [c, y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>This book is on this list for the wide variety of authors/traditions you get to read over the course of church history.</p>
<p>8.  <a title="The Call" href="http://www.amazon.com/Call-Finding-Fulfilling-Central-Purpose/dp/0849944376/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Call</a> by Os Guinness  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Guinness covers systematically God&#8217;s calling on the Christian and employs several vignettes into the lives of wonderful Christians through church history.</p>
<p>9.  <a title="Knowing God" href="http://www.amazon.com/Knowing-God-J-I-Packer/dp/083081650X/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Knowing God</a> by J.I. Packer  [c, y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>Packer has written a wonderful look at the attributes of God.  If you enjoy this one check out also <a title="Knowledge of the Holy" href="http://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Holy-Attributes-Meaning-Christian/dp/0060698659/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Knowledge of the Holy</a> by A.W. Tozer and <a title="The Attributes of God" href="http://www.amazon.com/Attributes-God-Arthur-W-Pink/dp/1604596724/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Attributes of God</a> by A.W. Pink</p>
<p>10.  Puritan Paperbacks by Various:  Most notably &#8211; <a title="The Christians Great Interest" href="http://www.amazon.com/Christians-great-interest-William-Guthrie/dp/0217074014/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=modepens-20" target="_self">The Christians Great Interest</a>, <a title="The Valley of Vision" href="http://www.amazon.com/Valley-Vision-collection-Puritan-Devotions/dp/0851512283/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Valley of Vision</a>, <a title="Precious Remedies Against Satan's Devices" href="http://www.amazon.com/Precious-Remedies-Against-Devices-Paperbacks/dp/0851510027/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Precious Remedies Against Satan&#8217;s Devices</a>, <a title="Doctrine of Repentance" href="http://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Repentance-Puritan-Paperbacks-Watson/dp/0851515215/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Doctrine of Repentance</a>, <a title="All Loves Excelling" href="http://www.amazon.com/All-Loves-Excelling-Knowledge-Paperbacks/dp/0851517390/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">All Loves Excelling</a>, <a title="The Sinfulness of Sin" href="http://www.amazon.com/Sinfulness-Puritan-Paperbacks-Ralph-Venning/dp/0851516475/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Sinfulness of Sin</a>, <a title="The Bruised Reed" href="http://www.amazon.com/Bruised-Puritan-Paperbacks-Richard-Sibbes/dp/0851517404/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Bruised Reed</a>, <a title="The Mortification of Sin" href="http://www.amazon.com/Mortification-Sin-Puritan-Paperbacks/dp/0851518672/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">The Mortification of Sin</a>, and <a title="Guide to Christ" href="http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Christ-Directing-Souls-Conversion/dp/0766167453/ref=modepens-20" target="_self">Guide to Christ</a>.  Entire set can be found at <a title="Puritan Paperbacks Set" href="http://www.monergismbooks.com/Puritan-Paperback-Bundle-p-16271.html" target="_self">monergism books</a>.  [y, l, e, p, s]</p>
<p>The Puritans are a treasure chest of wisdom and keen insight on the human condition.  They require patience to read but can be very rewarding.</p>
<p>(c=children; y=young adult; l=lay leader; e=elder; p=pastor; s=scholar)</p>
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<link>http://christchurchepc.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/as-nice-as-they-let-me-as-mean-as-they-make-me/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>My Son's Father</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[[A prison ministry story from Desiring God ministries] One of the growing ministries of Desiring God]]></description>
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<p>One of the growing ministries of Desiring God is the outreach to prisoners. Those of you in the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/AboutUs/SupportDg/JoinPhilippianFellowship/">Philippian Fellowship</a> hear about this more often than the rest of our website guests.</p>
<p>On Thursday a team of four of us stopped in at Angola Prison in Angola, Louisiana. Warden Burl Cain was very gracious to take us into his world, even the most painful part of it.</p>
<p>Here is what he said three years  ago in <a href="http://www.billygraham.org/DMag_Article.asp?ArticleID=695">Decision Magazine</a> about this prison:</p>
<blockquote><p>This prison is the largest maximum-security prison in America. It is one of the most famous prisons in the whole world. It has only murderers, rapists, armed robbers and habitual felons. The average sentence is 88 years, with 3,200 people in one place serving life sentences. Ninety percent of the inmates will die here. This is a place of hopelessness, so if Angola can change, the rest of the country’s prisons can’t say, “We can’t do this.”</p></blockquote>
<p>For those who know prison culture from the inside, this place is astonishing. On a campus of 18,000 acres, which is mainly farm land, the prisoners raise virtually all their food and eat three meals for a total cost of $1.45 each. The fish and crawdads that we ate were from &#8220;the Farm.”</p>
<p>There is a local extension of New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary in the prison and about 140 prisoners are enrolled. There are six churches in the prison and they train their own pastors. They send trained “missionaries” to other prisons to plant churches. They do this without using any tax money. But O the money—and lives—it saves!</p>
<p>Violence in the prison is rare. Courtesy and respect is pronounced. The ministry team of women who were visiting at the same time we were said they were treated with more respect from prisoners here, than in many places on the “outside.” Public profanity is not allowed.</p>
<p>The 42-inch church bell hangs high over the chapel in a prisoner-built tower. They rescued the bell from storage where it had been put after falling and killing a man. Some of the prisoners say: The bell killed a man and we killed a man, but now the bell and we serve the Lord Jesus.</p>
<p>Warden Cain says: I am as nice as they let me be and as mean as they make me be. Given the job he is given to do, it is a good motto.</p>
<p>I saw the Warden’s “nice” as we sat for half an hour with G.B., a prisoner on Death Row whose death by lethal injection the Warden will oversee in January. There are over 80 on death row, some now for over 14 years as appeals go on. The Warden asked me to share the gospel with G.B. Never have I felt a greater urgency to say the good news plainly and plead from my heart. The thief on the cross is a hero on Death Row.</p>
<p>The Warden answered all G.B.’s questions about what the last day would be like and who from his family and the press could be there. He gave G.B. unusual privileges for these last seven weeks. He was manifestly compassionate while stating the facts with precision. I took G.B.’s picture with my phone and said I would pray for him. (Perhaps you would too.)</p>
<p>I preached with all my heart to those who could fit in the chapel, and to the rest by closed circuit television. G.B. (and three others on Death Row) told me they’d be watching. I pulled no punches:</p>
<blockquote><p>For 90% of you the next stop is not home and family, but heaven or hell. O what glorious news we have in that situation. And believe me it is not the prosperity of Gospel. Jesus came and died and rose again not mainly to be <em>useful</em>, but to be <em>precious</em>. And <em>that</em> he can be in Angola as well as Atlanta. Perhaps even more.</p></blockquote>
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<link>http://bisericabetesda.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/tinta-suprema-a-evangheliei/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>TOTUL PRIN HAR</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Am inceput sa citesc din nou cartea lui John Piper &#8220;Dumnezeu este Evanghelia&#8221; eng. ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://bisericabetesda.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/godisthegospel.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1010" title="Godisthegospel" src="http://bisericabetesda.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/godisthegospel.jpg" alt="" width="157" height="234" /></a>Am inceput sa citesc din nou cartea lui John Piper &#8220;Dumnezeu este Evanghelia&#8221; eng. &#8220;God is the Gospel&#8221;, si m-am gandit sa impartasesc cu voi un citat despre tinta evangheliei. Pe mine m-a pus pe ganduri si incep sa fiu din ce in ce mai mult de acord cu faptul ca Dumnezeu <strong>este</strong> Evanghelia.</p>
<blockquote><p>Tinta suprema a evangheliei este expunerea gloriei lui Dumnezeu si indepartarea oricarui obstacol din a vedea si savura gloria Lui,  comoara noastra suprema.</p></blockquote>
<p>Deci, ma gandeam la acest citat si am realizat ca daca aceasta nu este tinta suprema a evangheliei, atunci orice alta tinta ne-ar face idolatrii. Daca tinta principala a evangheliei este sa ne faca sa ne simtim mai bine cu privire la noi, sau doar sa fim eliberati de durere in rai, sau poate doar sa avem un nou trup intr-o zi, atunci esuam in a cuprinde comoara suprema. Daca pretuim altceva mai presus decat Dumnezeu si gloria Sa atunci Evanghelia nu este vestea buna. Vestea buna e aceea de a ne bucura de cel mai extraordinar lucru din univers; acela fiind Dumnezeu insusi. Dumnezeu ne-a rascumparat pentru El si aceasta este intr-adevar o veste buna!</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Finally Alive (Ch. 4)]]></title>
<link>http://pursuingthetruth.net/2009/11/23/finally-alive-ch-4/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jeff Lash</dc:creator>
<guid>http://pursuingthetruth.net/2009/11/23/finally-alive-ch-4/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Instead of giving a complete summary or dissertation on chapter four, I am going to just give you a ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/6149/nm/Finally+Alive+%28Paperback%29/?utm_source=lash&#38;utm_medium=lash"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-272" title="Finally Alive by John Piper" src="http://cgbc2030.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/finally-alive.jpg" alt="" width="93" height="150" /></a>Instead of giving a complete summary or dissertation on chapter four, I am going to just give you a couple highlights that I personally found to be the most significant or thought provoking.</p>
<p>Piper spent the entirety of the last chapter unpacking the meaning of our deadness apart from the new birth in seven points (out of ten). In this chapter, Piper focuses on the condition of deadness. He moves from why we are dead to what deadness looks like for people who have not been born again.</p>
<p><em>Apart from the new birth, we are slaves to sin (Rom. 6:17).</em> I think this is a really important point and one that is often overlooked in both preaching and regular discussion. There are only two ways to live. In either case, we are all slaves. We are either slaves to righteousness or slaves to sin. There is no other option. As slaves, we are bound to act in accordance with our master (our nature). If we are slaves to sin apart from the new birth then we can are so connected to our sin that we cannot leave it or kill it.</p>
<p><em>Apart from the new birth, we are slaves of Satan (Eph. 2:1-2; 2 Tim. 2:24-26). </em>Not only are we slaves to the nature ruling over us, we are also slaves to prince of this world, Satan, apart from the new birth. &#8220;The mark of unregenerate persons is that their desires and choices &#8216;accord with&#8217; the prince of the power of the air.&#8221; (p. 57) The key to liberation from Satan is repentance which is granted to us by God himself. Again, God must come and claim us for his own. We are slaves of sin and Satan so we cannot do anything earn salvation.</p>
<p><em>Apart from the new birth, no good thing dwells in us (Rom. 7:18).</em> If it were true that we had some goodness to us then we could justify (to some degree) a salvation that was based on good works. &#8220;The statement makes no sense&#8211;that there is no good in us before new birth&#8211;without the conviction that everything good that God has made and that God sustains is ruined when it is not done in reliance on God&#8217;s grace and in pursuit of God&#8217;s glory.&#8221; (p. 58)</p>
<p>Piper puts it well when he says that our condition and future is hopeless apart from being born again. &#8220;Dead men do not do better. Dead men need one thing before anything else can happen: They must be made alive. They must be born again.&#8221; (p. 59) We are not only dead without new birth but we also &#8220;miss  everything good without it.&#8221; (p. 62)</p>
<p><strong>Your turn&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Do you agree with Piper&#8217;s assessment of why we are dead apart from Christ? How does that affect our view and actions toward unbelievers? What feelings do these points stir up in you?</p>
<p><strong>Next Reading:</strong></p>
<p>Read chapter 5 this week and expect a post on Monday (December 1st).</p>
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<link>http://prayforrevival.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/expository-preaching-is-essential-for-revival/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bryanaloha</dc:creator>
<guid>http://prayforrevival.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/expository-preaching-is-essential-for-revival/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Desiring God Blog &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1959_gods_word_good_exposition_great_joy_much_strength/">God’s Word, Good Exposition, Great Joy, Much Strength </a><img class="aligncenter" src="http://www.desiringgod.org/AboutUs/JohnPiper/images/PiperBanner.jpg" alt="" width="540" height="160" /></p>
<p>(Author: <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/AboutUs/JohnPiper/">John Piper</a>)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another reason I am joyfully committed to expository exultation, that is, preaching.</p>
<p>Look at this amazing statement of what biblical exposition is like when it&#8217;s done well—in the power of God&#8217;s Spirit and riveted on biblical texts.</p>
<p>Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people&#8230;. [T]he Levites helped the people to understand the Law&#8230;. They read from the book, from the Law of God, clearly, and they gave the sense, so that the people understood the reading&#8230;. And all the people went their way&#8230;to make great rejoicing, because they had understood the words that were declared to them. (Nehemiah 8:5-8,12)</p>
<p>First, there was a reader of the word of God. Then there were those who explained the words. Then there was true understanding in the minds of the people. Then there was great rejoicing &#8220;because they hand understood the words.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is astonishing to me how many pastors apparently don&#8217;t believe in pursuing the joy of their people in this way. Evidently they think it doesn&#8217;t work. I&#8217;m sure there are many reasons for this abandonment of biblical exposition.</p>
<p>But I simply want to wave the flag and say: There was joy then. And there is joy today when God&#8217;s people see real, divine meaning in texts that they had not seen before.</p>
<p>If you want to see a strong church, keep in mind that it is no accident that in this very context the writer says, &#8220;The joy of the Lord is your strength&#8221; (Nehemiah 8:10).</p>
<p>What joy? The joy of verse 12: &#8220;All the people went their way&#8230;to make great rejoicing, because they had understood the words that were declared to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>God&#8217;s truth followed by faithful, Spirit-anointed exposition, leads to great joy, which is the strength of God&#8217;s people. So give the sense, brothers. Give the sense!</p>
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<link>http://johnploughman.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/a-few-highlights-from-ets/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<guid>http://johnploughman.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/a-few-highlights-from-ets/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[I spent the last week in New Orleans, LA at the Evangelical Theological Society meeting.  It is alwa]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>I spent the last week in New Orleans, LA at the Evangelical Theological Society meeting.  It is always nice to see old friends and meet new ones.  I did not spend a fortune on books, though I did make a short [wish] list.  Its always hard to be away from my family, especially now since we just recently had our third child.  I am thankful for a very faithful and loving wife.</p>
<p>Here are a few highlights from the meeting that I thought was worth sharing:</p>
<p>(1)  Al Mohler and John Piper were involved in a panel discussion on the &#8220;Common Word Between Us&#8221; effort to bridge Muslims and Evangelicals theologically.  Below is the audio:</p>
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<li><a href="http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_1.mp3">Muslim Perspectives on the Writing of &#8220;A Common Word&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href="http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_2.mp3">Christian Defenses of the Yale Response to &#8220;A Common Word&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href="http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_panel.mp3">Q&#38;A</a></li>
<li><a href="http://media.desiringgod.org/audio/events/20091118_panel.mp3"></a></li>
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<p>(2)  Owen Strachen <a href="http://owenstrachan.com/2009/11/20/ets-live-blog-bruce-wares-2009-presidential-address/">live-blogged</a> Bruce Ware&#8217;s presidential address on the humanity of Christ.  Owen did a superb job.  I cannot imagine trying to live-blog an address like this.</p>
<p>(3)  Speaking of Owen Strachen, he also introduced me to <a href="http://www.biblemesh.com/">Bible Mesh</a>.  While many of you, like me, have probably seen this new teaching tool recently mentioned on  popular Christian blogs, I wanted emphasize the value of it.  I would encourage you to spend some time and explore their website.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Comparison: Rick Warren vs. Truth... Is Purpose Driven Church Deceptive?]]></title>
<link>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/comparison-rick-warren-vs-truth/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<guid>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/comparison-rick-warren-vs-truth/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[ Deception Driven Church? You decide&#8230;   Stuart L. Brogden compiled this comparison between wha]]></description>
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<div>Stuart L. Brogden compiled this comparison between what Relevant Rick teaches in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Purpose Driven Church</span> and what the Bible teaches.</div>
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<p>All the work of all men contains error.  That I perceive error in Rick Warren’s work is not note worthy.  But the repeated patterns of false teaching over 20 or more years and 25 million or so books combine for something to take notice of.  This book proclaims an Armenian, man-centered view of the world and its Creator, claiming all the while to be a Biblically sound God-centered work.  I think it is actually Biblically bankrupt, gilded with the false gospel of pragmatism.  As subtle and dangerous as the serpent in the garden, Warren calls us to believe a lie.</p>
<p>Curious – Many people have criticized Rick Warren by calling him a disciple or associate of Robert Schuller.  Warren has denied in this in myriad letters and articles, wanting to put distance between himself and the father of “possibility thinking”.  So why does Warren include Schuller’s effusive endorsement of this book (on the third page of the endorsements in the front of the book)?  And why does so much of Warren’s instruction sound so much like Schuller (see quotes at the end of this review)?</p>
<p>“The Purpose Driven Church” (PDC) is a humanistic, psychological view of how to handle a church, sprinkled with scripture in whichever translation or version can most easily be used to allegedly support Warren’s claims.  Whereas “The Purpose Driven Life” started out with a truth and spent itself in contradiction, so does PDC – claiming rightfully (page 14) “Only God makes the church grow” – and spending nearly 400 pages telling man how to manipulate people into something that only looks like church growth.</p>
<p>The foreward is a sugary sweet, sappy tribute from a once credible W.A. Criswell.  In his opening statement, Criswell declares that “God could not have a given me a more beloved and effective ‘son in the ministry’ than Rick Warren.”  You know a man is wrong when he limits God or assigns human characteristics to Him.  Criswell claims Saddleback “has grown <em>without compromising the mission or the doctrine</em> of a New Testament church.”  (Italics in the original.)  We shall see.  Criswell parrots the Schuller/Warren principal – “If churches are to be successful in evangelizing our society, which is becoming more pagan by the day, they must learn to think like an unbeliever.”  (Sic)  Right there, Criswell shows that he has lost sight of the New Testament church.</p>
<p>In what appears to be the introduction, Warren tells us the church must “look for the spiritual waves” of church growth, saying “because our churches haven’t been taught the needed skills, we are missing the spiritual waves that could bring revival, health, and explosive growth to our churches.”  Evidently, Warren’s Bible is not adequate instruction to the church or its members on the topic of spiritual outreach and discipleship.  He shows us right off that he is focused on “growth”.  And in this introduction, as well as throughout the book, Warren pays lip service to God while heralding and teaching humanistic methods.</p>
<p>It appears, even in the introduction, that Warren has slipped into an Armenian worldview, saying churches need to ask, “What barriers are blocking the waves God wants to send our way?”  (pages 15 &#38; 16)  Poor, God Almighty – needs the church to move barriers out of the way.  Warren tells us (page 17) “the key issue for churches in the twenty-first century will be church <em>health</em>, not church growth.”  He then goes on to tell us, same page, that he’s “been a student of growing churches” for over twenty years. </p>
<p>On page 18, Warren rightly lauds the Bible, and then declares, “My greatest source of learning, however has been watching what God has done in the church I pastor.”  This pragmatic view – study men and how to motivate them &#8211; pervades this whole book, and everything of Warren that I’ve read.</p>
<p>In Part One, page 26 &#38; 27, Warren reciprocates Criswell’s sappy sweet foreword, quoting a Criswell prayer/prophecy of church growth for Warren, convinced that God had called him to pastor a church – sounding much like a mutual admiration society.  Warren admonishes us (page 27) to not “copy things we did without considering the context”, but to look at the “transferable principles”.  We will see what these “transferable principles” are shortly. </p>
<p>Still on page 27, Warren states, “Very little of Saddleback’s ministry was preplanned.”  Remember this claim.  He then devotes the balance of chapter 1 describing all the planning that went into the “planting” of Saddleback.  His research led Warren to conclude that the pastor is the key figure in the health and growth of the church, describing the pastor as the “daddy” of the church!  Any church that has this view of its pastor has already failed. </p>
<p>In spite of telling us that only God grows the church, Warren’s research drew him to the fastest growing population center in the country, a fact that “grabbed me by the throat and made my heart start racing.”  Lots of people moving into an area typified by upper middle class Americans certainly set a solid stage for numerical growth – a very pragmatic view. </p>
<p>On page 38, Warren recommends a list of preachers he heard on the radio.  While several on Warren’s list are sound pastors, he recommends to his reader Robert Schuller and John Wimber as well.  No disciple of Christ should recommend these false teachers to anyone, much less the wide and long term audience of a book. </p>
<p>And on the next page, Warren says that, with Saddleback, he ”determined to <em>begin</em> with unbelievers, rather than a core of committed Christians.”  Consider this statement carefully.  In the first case, the church is comprised of believers, not those who don’t believe.  By purposefully refusing to build his church surrounded by mature saints, there was nobody to hold Warren accountable as a preacher.  Who in this group of lost folks that he gathered could understand anything spiritual?  The Bible tells us those who are lost cannot discern spiritual matters.  A “pastor” with only lost people in his “church” is no pastor.  What Warren started was an evangelistic outreach to middle class lost Americans – not a church.  Near the end of this page Warren tells us he spent <em>12 weeks</em> studying lost folks in order to know what his “church” should be like.  “No planning” went into the founding of Saddleback, he told us.  Studying heathens, rather than scripture, was how he planned Saddleback.  Apparently without any elders or other biblical safeguards, he was swept away by one of the “spiritual waves” he was surfing for.</p>
<p>Page 44 – “pastor” Warren excitedly recounts how Saddleback “caught a wave”, when over 200 heathens showed up to the service designed with them in mind.  While many churches have operated in temporary settings, Warren touts Saddleback’s “homeless” years as if they were a special virtue.  Thankfully, he recounts a proper understanding of the Great Commission (page 46), yet he leaves this reader wondering how many of his “seekers” make it around the “bases” to becoming a “servant-hearted Christian.” </p>
<p>Starting on page 47, Warren uses “conventional wisdom” to create several straw-man myths to knock down.</p>
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<li>“Myth #1: The Only Thing That Large Churches Care About Is Attendance.”  While many have rightfully pointed out the tendency of many large churches to focus too much attention on attendance, I have never heard of any rational person saying it’s the <em>only</em> thing.  Warren’s own words, with the series of “if” statements leave out the essential bit of the Gospel, wherein the lost are confronted with their sin and the attendant need of a Savior.  He “validates” his Gospel-lite by observing, “it’s happening all over the world.”  On page 49 we are told that “Intentionally setting up a strategy and a structure to force ourselves to give equal attention to each purpose is what being a purpose-driven church is all about.”  None of Warren’s 5 listed purposes (page 49) convey the Gospel of Jesus Christ.</li>
<li>Myths 2, 3, &#38; 4: Once again, Warren touts all-or-nothing myths that are, in truth, common failings among many churches.  In talking about purpose #4, Warren discloses that his view of church discipline consists of dropping from membership those rogues who fail to fulfill the membership covenant.  I don’t think that’s what the Lord tells us in Matthew 18.</li>
<li>“Myth #5: If You Are Dedicated Enough, Your Church Will Grow.”  Any pastor who believes this “myth” has lost sight of Who builds the church.  To counter “good, godly pastors” who are dedicated yet have churches that are not growing, Warren provides a prescription that follows the same rabbit trail as his “myth” – relying on human effort.</li>
<li>“Myth #7: All God Expects of Us Is Faithfulness” In the short list that follows, Warren tells us we must also bear fruit (true) and makes it sound as if we can make ourselves be fruitful.  Bearing spiritual fruit is the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of saints, not a trait the person can develop.</li>
</ul>
<p>Let me take a break and say that I think pages 64, 65, 68 – 79, and 393 &#38; 394 are sound teaching.  Not all in this book is worthless or dangerous, but even these passages are mere “spiritual cotton candy”.</p>
<p>On page 77, Warren uses metaphorical, non-Biblical definitions to build a case for churches being driven.  In Scripture, the word drive and derivatives are used in conjunction with people being punished.  Those being treated kindly by God are led, as sheep, not driven.  Context is key to proper interpretation, and Warren strips a word out of its Biblical context and uses its tertiary meaning to lay the foundation for his whole trademarked “driven” model, pulling people away from the Biblical view of how God leads His children.</p>
<p>Near the bottom of page 79, Warren gives a welcome warning to not “allow seekers to drive the total agenda of the church.” – but I must confess that this book, as a whole, leads me to believe Warren allows “seekers” to drive entirely too much of his church’s agenda. </p>
<p>After listing, on pages 77 – 79, seven things that should not drive churches (tradition, personality, finances, programs, buildings, events, and seekers), he reveals, on page 80, “What is needed today are churches that are driven by purpose instead of by other forces.”  And, “You must begin to look at everything your church does through the lens of five New Testament purposes”.  Warren’s 5 purposes are culled from scripture, but, again, churches and saints are to be led by the Spirit of God – not driven by anything.  And his 5 purposes are not “the lens” of the Word.</p>
<p>On pages 86 &#38; 87, Warren uses different Bible paraphrases to ensure the word “purpose” is used.  On page 91, he tells us that the church in Philippi was “captivated by Paul’s mission” (Philippians 4:15); whereas Paul makes it clear that he preached Christ crucified and resurrected – people were captivated by Christ and led by His Spirit, not Paul’s “mission”.</p>
<p>On page 93, we are pointed to scripture for the correct question, but led to Warren’s self-proclaimed mentor, heathen business guru Peter Drucker, for the diagnostic standard: “Your church’s purpose statement must become the standard by which you measure your congregation’s health and growth.”  Oops.  I thought the Bible and the Holy Spirit give us everything needed to live a righteous life in Christ Jesus (2 Peter 2:1 – 3)</p>
<p>Page 95: Warren tells about a church that he claims was “theologically sound” and “sound asleep”.  He says, “the church leaders had become lazy and lethargic.”  That does not sound like a “theologically sound” church to me.  It appears to be labeled as such to create a straw man to be knocked down by Warren.</p>
<p>On the next page, Warren tells us, “Prior to starting Saddleback Church I took six months to do an extensive, personal Bible study on the church”.  Remember page 27 – not much planning went into Saddleback?  As part of Warren’s Bible study on the church, about a third of his listed scripture passages are from the four Gospel accounts – they describe Christ’s life, but not the church.  Remember – most of the life of Christ took place <em>before</em> the New Testament church was founded.</p>
<p>In Part Two, Warren describes “the 5 purposes for the church” – Biblically sound purposes but not completely sound in his exposition on them.  “Purpose #3: Go and make disciples.  This purpose we call <em>evangelism</em>.”  One must indeed evangelize (preach the Gospel to) lost folks before they can be discipled, but the focus of this aspect of the Great Commission is on the making of disciples – not evangelism.  Seeker sensitive churches are widely critiqued as being ineffective in discipleship – this error may explain that, in part.</p>
<p>In describing Saddleback’s purpose statement, Warren notes “three important distinctives”, the first of which is, “it is stated <em>in terms of results</em> rather than in terms of activity.”  This is a common failing of man – trying to control the results of his activities; pragmatism defined.  (From John MacArthur: “What is pragmatism?  Basically it is the philosophy that results determine meaning, truth, and value–what will work becomes a more important question than what is true.  As Christians, we are called to trust what the Lord says, preach that message to others, and leave the results to Him. But many have set that aside.  Seeking relevancy and success, they have welcomed the pragmatic approach and have received the proverbial Trojan horse.”)  Throughout His Word, God calls His people to obedience – not to results.  Often, the results He brings about are not what man expects or would seek.  I believe the Biblical pattern is to remind us that our efforts have no merit before God – only the work of Jesus does. </p>
<p>On page 109, Warren sums up his argument for your church to adopt his purpose-driven model by saying, “To do less <em>is to leave to chance</em> the great responsibility we’ve given by our Lord Jesus Christ.”  (emphasis mine)  This is another glimpse into what appears to be Warren’s Armenian view of God.  And if recommending Schuller and Wimber are not enough, Warren touts David (or Paul) Yonggi Cho’s occult Central Church in Seoul, Korea.  This man has written &#8220;You can create the presence of Jesus with your mouth.  He is bound by your lips and by your words.&#8221;  He and Schuller are fans of one another and disciples of the risen Lord Jesus should view neither of them credibly.</p>
<p>In chapter 6, Warren teaches pastors how to communicate their purposes.  He reviews the narrative of Nehemiah’s rebuilding of the wall around Jerusalem and discovers what he calls, “the Nehemiah principle”.  Since the Jews working on the wall grew discouraged after 26 days of work, Warren projects that onto every church and declares, “<em>Vision and purpose must be restated every twenty-six days to keep the church moving in the right direction.</em>”  Certainly, a degree of repetition is a hallmark of effective communication.  But the larger issue is that of deriving a key principle from a narrative contained in scripture.  This is a dangerous practice, the best example I can think of being Bruce Wilkerson’s subtly deceptive book, “The Prayer of Jabez”.</p>
<p>On pages 113 and 114, Warren encourages good personal management techniques – once again showing how to create “good results” by manipulating people and calling it God’s work.  “People tend to do whatever gets rewarded, so make heroes of people in your church when they do the work of the church.”  God tells us not to seek the applause or rewards of men, but to trust God who is faithful to reward those walk by faith, not by sight.  Biblical leadership often flies in the face of accepted “good personal management techniques.”</p>
<p>Warren stays on track into chapter 7, opening with a story about George Whitfield and John Wesley.  Whitfield preached 18,000 sermons to 100,000 people but left no organization behind, whereas Wesley left us the Methodist denomination – as if what we can see today determines the value of the work these men did.  And as far as I can tell, the Lord Jesus did not leave us much of an organization – what would Warren say about His legacy?  Further in this chapter, pages 126 &#38; 127, Warren recommends false teachers among others who are Biblically sound.  Check out the teachings of Dallas Willard, Richard Foster, and Peter Wagner – men who think themselves modern prophets and apostles of the church. </p>
<p>In discussing Saddleback’s “5 Circles of Community”, pages 131 and following, Warren tells us he focuses evangelism efforts on those who have already attended his church.  He is either derelict in failing to send witnesses out into the lost world or admitting his “church” is fairly well full of lost folks.  He admits that a heathen cannot worship God, but is “convinced that genuine worship is a powerful witness to unbelievers if it is done in a style that makes sense to them.”  Genuine worship is a spiritual act and impossible for a lost person to comprehend.  But note that Warren emphasizes the <em>style</em> of worship, as if the emotional connection with the music can save anyone.  And this from a man who adamantly maintains style and methods don’t matter in justifying his use of all sorts of culturally relevant music and drama.  He goes on to say, “If an unbeliever makes a commitment to regular attendance at Saddleback, I believe it will be just a matter of time until he accepts Christ.”  With Warren’s declared determination to avoid preaching the law or anything that would convict a lost person of his sin, one wonders what in Saddleback would cause anyone to be saved.  Time hanging with supposed saints won’t save anyone unless the Gospel is preached – which does not appear to happen at Saddleback.</p>
<p>On page 133, Warren describes Saddleback’s membership covenant, which requires “a commitment to three spiritual habits: (1) having a daily quiet time, (2) tithing ten percent of their income (Nowhere in scripture are Christian instructed – even implicitly – to tithe, but give as the Spirit of God leads and not under compulsion. &#8211; 2 Corinthians 9:6 &#38; 7), and (3) being active in a small group.”  This sounds like the chains of legalism – whereas the Bible tells Saints to be led by the Spirit in such matters.  He sets up this disclosure by describing people who are “dedicated to growing in discipleship” … “but they have not yet gotten involved in ministry.”  This is a contradiction in terms, indicating that pastor Rick has a non-Biblical definition of discipleship. </p>
<p>Warren says, “Jesus started where people were – at their level of commitment – but he never left them there.”  I do not see this when I read the Bible: lost folks have NO commitment to Christ.  He says Jesus “didn’t lay any heavy requirement” on John and Andrew, but every Jewish boy <em>knew</em> the total commitment required when a Rabbi bid one, “come”.  Further on page 135, Warren claims that Christ did not issue “his ultimate challenge to the crowd” until these people had hung around Him for three years and saw the ways in which He loved them.  “Jesus was able to ask for that kind of commitment only after demonstrating his love for them and earning their trust.”  Unlike sinful man, Jesus the Christ does not need to <em>earn</em> anything before He speaks Truth to anyone.  Warren puts too much emphasis on the lost person rather than on the Gospel. </p>
<p>In chapter 8, Warren tells us “There are ten areas you must consider as you begin to reshape your church into a purpose-driven church.”  Where in Scripture are pastors advised to “reshape” the churches they shepherd?  He says he cautions other churches to <em>not</em> clone Saddleback, yet lists 10 mandatory “principles”, 5 purposes, and his own “circles of influence” that these churches must embrace.  “Notice that I suggest you grow your church from the outside in, rather than from the inside out.”  Read the book of Acts – the church was made up of saints and disciples who were sent out into the cities, the reverse of what Pastor Rick suggests.  “The problem I have found with an ‘inside-out’ approach is that by the time the church planter has ‘discipled’ his core, they have often lost contact with the community and are actually afraid of interacting with the unchurched.”  This is another indication that Pastor Rick knows very little of Biblical discipleship, but at least gives credit for this backwards idea where it is due – false apostle C. Peter Wagner!</p>
<p>On page 139, we find out that the first year of Saddleback, when ostensibly everyone was lost except (?) Pastor Rick, he “preached very simple, straightforward evangelistic series such as ‘Good News About Common Problems’ and ‘God’s Plan for Your Life.’”  There are pop-psychology messages with a Bible flavor – not evangelistic, or Gospel, presentations.  How can he say that “most of them (the 200 attenders) were brand new believers.” considering his messages?  God’s Word shows the error of this approach: “<em>Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man&#8217;s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  <strong>But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.</strong></em>”  1 Corinthians 2:12 – 14</p>
<p>In a highlight box on page 156, we are admonished, “Never criticize any method that God is blessing!”  Yet all the criteria Warren urges us to use are that which the eye can see, and ignores the Biblical command to “<em>test all things, hold on to that which is good</em>” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), with “good” being in accordance with God’s view.  On page 157 we are urged to use market research to determine “when, where, and how” evangelism should be pursued and on page 158 tells us a church “driven by market forces rather than the Word of God” will be “unstable and unbiblical.”  One page is wrong, one is right. </p>
<p>Page 160, Warren continues in his study of man as first priority: “I must pay as much attention to the geography, customs, culture, and religious background of my community as I do to those who live in Bible times if I am to faithfully communicate God’s Word.”  The Word of God cannot be understood or communicated unless one seeks to know the literal, grammatical, and historical context of the text.  Nobody in scripture paid that much attention to the spiritually dead people they encountered.  They proclaimed the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus and commended men to believe on Him!</p>
<p>Pastor Rick advises us to tailor the presentation based on the worldly concerns our “crowd” is perceived as having – resulting in a false gospel that might as well be delivered by Joel Osteen.  By telling lost folks how God can make their marriage better, we teach people to look to the Lord for temporal rewards that satisfy our flesh.  But in truth, lost people need to know they are dead in sin, convicted by the Law, so they might realize their deepest need and cry out to the Lamb of God for mercy.  If “god” makes their life more comfortable and they are not confronted with their rebellion against the Holy Creator God, we have made their path to hell all the more pleasant – heaping judgment on ourselves (James 3:1).</p>
<p>Opening up chapter 10, page 173, Warren declares, “Even a casual reading of the New Testament will show that the Gospel spread primarily through relationships.”  Relationships are important, but the Gospel was and is spread through the <em>preaching</em> of it – mostly to people the preacher knows only superficially.  In the next page, we are told, “The people your church is most likely to reach are those who match the existing culture of your church.”  This is true if you do not make disciples and send them out into the world to proclaim the Gospel to all tongues and nations.  The church is not intended to be a reflection of the culture – it is, by definition, counter culture and intended to make a difference in the world.  Warren’s advice is for the church to be conformed to patterns of the world, contrary to Romans 12:1 – 2.</p>
<p>Pastor Rick reinforces this un-Biblical nonsense on pages 188 – 189, where we are told to think like lost people.  This is Warren’s interpretation of the scriptural mandate to “understand the times”?  He shows a shallow view of the Lord: “Jesus <em>often</em> knew what unbelievers were thinking.  He was effective in dealing with people because he understood and was able to defuse the mental barriers they held.”  (emphasis mine)  We are to believe that Jesus sometimes did not know what people were thinking – a limited God.  Warren tells us Christ relied on popular psychological theory in order to effectively deal with His creatures.  And we are once again told, “We must learn to think like unbelievers in order to win them. … “The problem is, the longer you are a believer, the less you think like an unbeliever.”  The Bible tell us the old man is dead – we have been re-born as children of God and are now “a peculiar people”; that we are to be salt and light; that lost folk love darkness because their deeds are dark; and that we are not to hide our light under a bushel.  Pastor Rick thinks the church exists to be valued by pagans!  Paul gives a different prescription in 2 Corinthians 4:3 – 6: “<em>But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus&#8217; sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.</em>”</p>
<p>You can read many objections from Rick Warren anytime someone publicly associates him with Robert Schuller.  But again, on page 190, Warren shows us how big an impact Schuller had on him.  It should not be a surprise that so many of Schuller’s people pleasing ways are embraced and endorsed by Warren.  Near the bottom of Page 191, this pearl: “The unchurched aren’t asking for watered-down messages, just practical ones.  They want to hear something on Sunday that they can apply on Monday.”  Warren’s idea of church is to help lost folks have a better life, according to the world’s standard.  The Creator’s idea of church is for the saints to come together for worship, discipleship, fellowship, and be sent into the world proclaiming the life, death, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus.  And yes, we welcome lost people into the church – we simply don’t expect them to be comfortable there.  They should be confronted with the Word of God and their sinful nature.</p>
<p>Warren’s own “tale of success” in the early days of Saddleback tells the sad truth in what is left unsaid.  He defined Saddleback as “a church for the unchurched”, and he attracted many of them, summing up with, “You have to decide who you want to impress.”  Warren wants to impress lost folk – his charge, however, is to honor God.  On page 195: “This is the heart of Saddleback’s evangelism strategy: We must be willing to catch fish on their own terms.”  Fish don’t want to be caught!  And lost men do not seek after God.  His Word doesn’t tell us to be on the same wavelength as lost men, He tells us to be fishers <em>of</em> men – different from them, with a mission they cannot understand.  Warren tells us (page 197) that he has determined that Jesus had no “standard approach” in evangelism.  He is talking about “style points”, not content or motive.  I am convinced that a careful reading of the New Testament shows that Jesus did have a “standard approach.  Evangelist Ray Comfort sums it up thusly – “With the Law we break the proud heart; with the gospel we heal the broken heart.”  And, “If we care about the lost, we will not hesitate to speak to them about sin, righteousness, and judgment … the way Jesus did.”  In Mark 10:17 – 22, the Lord used the law to expose the rich man as idolater, in John 5:45 – 47, Jesus confronts the Jews with the accusation of the Law of Moses.  In John 4:4 – 26 the Lord seeks out the woman at the well and uses the law to gently confront her with her sin – violating the 7<sup>th</sup> commandment.</p>
<p>On page 219, Pastor Rick says, “Jesus often established a beachhead for evangelism in a person’s life by meeting a felt need.”  And he cites not one example &#8211; because there are none.  Dr. Luke records this encounter with the “crowd”: “<em>And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them<strong>, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.</strong>  And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.</em>”  (Luke 14:25 – 27)  The Apostle John recorded this encounter (John 6:24 – 27):  “<em>When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.  And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?  Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, <strong>Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.</strong>  Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.</em>”  And in verses 52 – 61: ”<em>The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?  Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.  Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.  For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.  He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.  As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.  This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.  These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.  Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?  <strong>When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?</strong></em><strong>” </strong> Culminating in verses 65 &#38; 66: “<em>And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. <strong> From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.</strong></em>”</p>
<p>Jesus doesn’t sound like Rick Warren.  To Whom shall we listen?</p>
<p>Ever the pragmatist, Warren tells us (page 224) that a passage in Luke 4 is all about Jesus “meeting needs and healing hurts.”  Jesus used that well known passage from Isaiah to establish His claim as Messiah, not “meet needs or heal hurts”.  On page 230, he beats the same drum: “The unchurched are not asking that we change the message or even dilute it, only that we show its relevance. …  I’ve found that the unchurched in America are very interested in Bible doctrine when it is applied in practical and relevant ways to their lives.”  What I’ve observed is that lost folks – whether they be “churched” or “unchurched” – want their ears tickled.  They want to be told that God loves them and wants them to be healthy and wealthy – things that are “practical and relevant”.  This is why prosperity gospel pimps such as T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen can fill up stadiums!  The Word of God tells us to preach the simple Truth and not work to earn the approval of men.  Lost folk do not need motivational messages on how to “live large with Jesus” – they need to repent and be saved.</p>
<p>Warren thinks (page 232) that the major purpose of Christ’s parables was to entertain folk and ensure they would remember His story.  But in Matthew 15, Mark 4, Mark 7, Luke 8, John 10 and other passages, His very own disciples failed to understand the parable and sought an explanation.  And while Pastor Rick cites Matthew 13:34, he did so as a proof-text, as verse 35 makes clear: He spoke in parables to fulfill scripture, not to satisfy the felt needs of unchurched Harry.  But if His purpose was as Warren claims, why did so many people need – and still need – an explanation of them?  To close this question, the Lord Himself gives us the answer in Matthew 13:10 – 13 (<strong><em>And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?  He answered and said unto them, Because</em></strong><em> <strong>it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. </strong> For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.  Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.</em>)  And Luke 8:9 – 10 (<em>And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be?  And he said, <strong>Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand</strong>.</em>)</p>
<p>On page 241, “America’s Pastor” tells us “More people are won to Christ by <em>feeling God’s presence</em> than by all our apologetic arguments combined.”  This is a false argument: apologetics is not what wins people to Christ – the Gospel does that.  It is by preaching the Word of the Lord that people are saved – not by feeling anything.  He ascribes the salvation of the 3,000 people recorded in Acts 2 to their having felt God’s presence.  But the Bible makes it clear that the Spirit of God empowered Peter and it was the Word of God proclaimed by Peter that caused the response.  Read Acts 2:1 – 36 to see the set-up and the message of Christ crucified.  Then in verses 37 &#8211; 41: “<em>Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?  Then <strong>Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins</strong>, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.  And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.  <strong>Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.</strong></em>”</p>
<p>Do you perceive these people were saved by having “felt God’s presence” or by the Word of God piercing their sinful hearts?</p>
<p>Page 243, Warren joins countless seeker sensitive fans by misappropriating 1 Corinthians 14:23.  Paul’s main argument was not to restrict the use of tongues so lost people wouldn’t think them foolish – this is a final argument in Paul’s long, passionate discourse against the improper use of this spiritual gift.  His main point was to encourage the saints to speak in a known tongue so others in the church could understand them.  It’s almost “and by the way, don’t you see how a heathen who might wander in here could think you mad?”  It was not normative in the early church for lost people to fill up the meeting place.  The church was of and for believers.</p>
<p>On pages 244 and 245 Warren furthers his humanistic view that unchurched people ought to have their felt needs addressed from the pulpit.  He again tells us these unchurched “expect to hear the Bible when they come to church.”  How would such a person know what to expect from the Word of God?  Go back to 1 Corinthians 2:12 – 14.  Pastor Rick tells us “They are looking for solutions, not a scolding.”  The problem for Rick and other seeker sensitive pastors is that unless a lost person is confronted with his condition (being dead is sin) he will not see any value in the Lamb of God.  The Gospel is not a scolding – but neither is it offering solutions to life’s circumstantial problems.  Warren instructs, “Design one worship service to edify believers and another service to evangelize the unchurched friends brought by your members.”  He then describes how he has marginalized the Saints by devoting weekends at Saddleback to lost folks.  We can readily surmise that Saddleback is a church on Wednesday evenings, but not on Saturdays or Sundays.</p>
<p>In chapter 14 – Designing a Seeker-Sensitive Service, Warren once again relies on and recommends a false prophet to make his point – citing “Apostle” Peter Wagner on page 267:  “When you run out of space, you experience what Pete Wagner calls ‘sociological strangulation’.”  But many churches have experienced true fellowship and spiritual growth while struggling with the logistical constraints of what experts see as too little space.  My wife heard a pastor in such a situation say, “Some pastors think you need 200 square feet per person.  We have 200 people per square feet!”  And he was praising God – not complaining about being “sociologically strangled.”</p>
<p>On to chapter 16 – Preaching to the Unchurched, Pastor Rick says, “The common ground we have with unbelievers is not the Bible, but our common needs, hurts, and interests as human beings.”  This is fine guidance on how to start a fraternal organization, such as a Rotary Club – the Bible tells us that unbelievers’ greatest need is salvation.  That we saints share some of the same sinful “habits and hang-ups” as the “unchurched” can be an encouragement to the lost, as we teach them that <em>all</em> are unworthy apart from Christ.  Nowhere in this chapter does Pastor Rick advise the use of the law to convict people of their sin; he only wants the lost folk to know they are valuable and loved, etc.  They may well go to hell thinking this, having never been convicted of sin or saved by grace.  Good feelings save nobody.</p>
<p>On page 312, Warren poses a handful of questions that unchurched people want answered before they are willing to join the church:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do I fit here?</li>
<li>Does anybody want to know me?</li>
<li>Am I needed?</li>
<li>What is the advantage of joining?</li>
<li>What is required of members?</li>
</ul>
<p>Rick shows us, once again, that his focus is on growing the “church” by answering the “felt needs” of the flesh – not following the Biblical mandate on how to lead a flock of believers.  He is building a social fraternity and calling it “church”.</p>
<p>In chapter 16 – Turning Members into Ministers, Warren mixes some solid Biblical instruction with a humanistic, Jungian psychological matrix appraisal of people – his five SHAPE factors.  A detailed comparison of Warren’s SHAPE to Jungian psychology and God’s Word can be found at the end of this review.</p>
<p>Page 384, Warren again confirms he sees man as more important than does our Creator: “The most critical factor in a new ministry isn’t the <em>idea</em>, but the <em>leadership</em>.”  Jesus, the most important human ever, said this about Himself vs. the message (or idea): “<em>When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that <strong>I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things</strong>.</em>  (John 8:28)”, “<em>but I have called you friends; for <strong>all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you</strong>.  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you,</em> (John 15:15b – 16a).”  The Bible tells us the main thing is the message, not the messenger.</p>
<p>Lastly, page 395 – “Purpose-driven churches are led by purpose-driven leaders.”  Although I care nothing for Warren’s penchant for using “purpose-driven”, leave it aside.  Consider this – Churches are led by leaders.  Now consider the Words of the One Who “wrote the Book” on “how to do church”:  “<em>Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.</em></p>
<p><em>And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.”</em>  (2 Timothy 2:1 – 2)  And recall the Words of Jesus, above – He spoke and worked only what His Father told Him.  <strong>The only leadership is from God and the truly effective pastor will be purposeful and Spirit led.</strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Quotes from Schuller – or is it Rick Warren?</span></p>
<p>Rick Warren denies virtually every connection and influence with or of Robert Schuller.  But judge for yourself – read a few choice quotes from Schuller and see if Warren’s teaching doesn’t line up near perfectly.  Read more at <a href="http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac23.htm">http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac23.htm</a></p>
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<p><strong>&#8220;Yes, here is a theology for church growth.  Here is a theology for success, for the secret of success is to find a need and fill it.  Truly, when the church reforms and refines all of its theological expressions around every person&#8217;s daily need for self-affirmation, it shall flourish &#8216;like trees planted by rivers of water.&#8217;&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 175)</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;People who have studied our work and read our materials have said that historically we are not like other churches.  Denominations and religions started with teaching a theology about God.  Whenever there was disagreement with each other about a certain detail, the result was to establish a new religion or branch thereof, so today there are many different denominations and lots of different religions.  When I started this ministry, I chose to focus on human need and said, </strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Let&#8217;s ask what a human being really is?  What does he need?&#8221;  And is there a God who can provide for those needs and what kind of God does he need?  So we started talking about the needs in humanity and we defined the single deepest need of the human being.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>(Robert Schuller, &#8220;Mirror or Window People: Which Are You?”  August 2, 2004)</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Classical theology has erred in its insistence that theology be &#8216;God-centered,&#8217; not &#8216;man-centered&#8217;.&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 64) </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;The classical error of historical Christianity is that we have never started with the value of the person.  Rather, we have started from the &#8216;unworthiness of the sinner,&#8217; and that starting point has set the stage for the glorification of human shame in Christian theology.&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 162)</p>
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<p>CHARTING THE WARREN-JUNG CONNECTION</p>
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<h1>THEIR CONNECTION ON PERSONALITY THEORY</h1>
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<td width="32%" valign="top">“When you minister in a manner consistent with the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">personality</span> God gave you, you experience <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fulfillment</span>, satisfaction, and fruitfulness.” (The Purpose Driven Life, p. 246)“…when you are forced to minister in a manner that is “out of character” for your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span>, it creates tension and discomfort, requires extra effort and energy, and produces less than the best results. This is why mimicking someone else’s ministry never works. You don’t have <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">their</span></em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> personality</span>.” (PDL, p. 245)</td>
<td width="32%" valign="top">“…the ultimate aim and strongest desire of all mankind is to develop that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fulness</span> (sic) of life which is called <span style="text-decoration:underline;">personality</span>… To the extent that a man is untrue to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the law of his being</span> and does not rise to personality, he has failed to realize his <span style="text-decoration:underline;">life’s meaning</span>.” (The Development of Personality, Collected Works 17; from The Essential Jung, pg. 191, 207)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">There is absolutely no biblical precedent for this position. Personality typology has <em>never</em> been a criteria for God choosing someone for ministry, but is in great part grounded in Jungian psychology. Did Paul rely on personality assessment to guide his ministry? Hardly&#8230;</p>
<p>“God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, and the base things of the world and the despised, God has chosen, the things that are not, that He might nullify the things that are, that no man should boast before God.” 1 Cor 1:27-29</p>
<p>“And He has said to me, ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.’ Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ&#8217;s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.” 2 Cor 12:9-10</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“You may be driven by a painful memory, a haunting fear, or an <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> belief.” (PDL, p. 27)“(Guilt-driven people) often <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconsciously</span> punish themselves by sabotaging their own success.” (PDL, pp. 27-28)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“The <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> . . . is the source of the instinctual forces of the psyche and of the forms or categories that regulate them, namely the archetypes.” (The Structure of the Psyche, CW 8, par. 342)“Constant observation pays the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> a tribute that more or less guarantees its cooperation. One of the most important tasks of psychic hygiene [is] to pay continual attention to the symptomatology of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> contents and processes.” (The Portable Jung, New York: Penguin Books, 1986, p. 156)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">The “unconscious” is the foundational concept of both Freudian and Jungian psychology, and has no biblical basis whatsoever. In fact, Scripture does not allow for the idea that people are “driven” by an “unconscious belief.” By endorsing the idea of the unconscious, Warren is promoting the Jungian belief that people must analyze the forces of the unconscious to discover their life’s purpose. According to Scripture, any driving force outside of God’s will is sin, no matter where it resides. Psychology, however, downplays our personal accountability for sin by making the “unconscious” the ultimate reservoir and bastion of unavoidable human instinct.</p>
<p>“And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: <span style="text-decoration:underline;">for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.</span>” Romans 14:23</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“If I asked how you picture life, what image<em> </em>would come to your mind? That <span style="text-decoration:underline;">image</span> is your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">life metaphor</span>. It’s the view of life that you hold, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciously or</span> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconsciously</span>, in your mind.” (PDL, pp. 41-42)“Your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unspoken life metaphor</span> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">influences</span> your life more than you realize. It <span style="text-decoration:underline;">determines</span> your expectations, your values, your relationships, your goals, and your priorities.” (PDL, p. 42)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“An archetypal content expresses itself, first and foremost, in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">metaphors</span>.” (“The Psychology of the Child Archetype,” CW 9i, par. 267)Archetypes are not inborn ideas, but “typical forms of behaviour which, once they become <span style="text-decoration:underline;">conscious</span>, naturally present themselves as <span style="text-decoration:underline;">ideas</span> and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">images</span>, like everything else that becomes a content of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciousness</span>.” (Collected Works 8, par. 435)</p>
<p>“Indeed, the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fate of the individual</span> is largely dependent on <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious factors</span>.” (“Conscious, Unconscious, and Individuation” CW 9)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">The analysis of “metaphors” housed in the unconscious is a trademark concept of psychology, not of Scripture. The use of images, fantasies, and dreams to better understand our “unconscious” is a signature feature of Jungian psychotherapy that borders on the occult.</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“God made <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverts</span></em> and <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverts</span></em>… He made some people <em>‘<span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinkers</span>’ </em>and others <em>‘<span style="text-decoration:underline;">feelers</span>.’” </em>(PDL, p. 245)“Your personality will affect <em>how</em> and <em>where</em> you use your spiritual gifts and abilities. For instance, two people may have the same gift of evangelism, but if one is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> and other is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverted</span>, that gift will be expressed in different ways.” (PDL, p. 245)</p>
<p>“Ask yourself questions:… Am I more <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> or <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverted</span>? Am I more a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinker</span> or a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">feeler</span>?” (PDL, pp.251-252)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“Two types (of typical differences in human psychology) especially become clear to me; I have termed them the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> and the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extraverted</span> types.” (“Introduction” Psychological Types, CW 6 par. 1)“I have found from experience that the basic psychological functions, this is, functions which are genuinely as well as essentially different from other functions, prove to be <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinking</span>, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">feeling</span>, sensation</em>, and <em>intuition</em>. If one of these functions habitually predominates, a corresponding type results. I therefore distinguish a thinking, a feeling, a sensation, and an intuitive type. <em>Each of these types may moreover be either <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> or <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extraverted</span>…</em>” (“Introduction” Psychological Types, CW 6)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Warren is explicitly using the specific terminology of the psychological typology theory originally conceived by Carl Jung. Despite the claims of his supporters, Warren has clearly based his Personality Theory (the &#8220;P&#8221; in his SHAPE teaching) on the unbiblical foundation of Jungian psychology.“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8</p>
<p>“Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.” 1 Cor 2:12-13</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“The Bible gives us plenty of proof that God uses all types of personalities. Peter was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">sanguine</span></em>. Paul was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">choleric</span></em>. Jeremiah was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">melancholy</span></em>. When you look at the personality differences in the twelve disciples, it’s easy to see why they sometimes had interpersonal conflict.” (PDL, p. 245)“There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span><em> </em>for ministry.” (PDL, p. 245)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“…the physicians of ancient times…tried to reduce the bewildering diversity of mankind to orderly groups… The very names of the Galenic <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperaments</span> betray their origin in the pathology of the four “humours.” <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Melancholic</span></em> denotes a preponderance of black bile, <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">phlegmatic</span></em> a preponderance of phlegm or mucus, <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">sanguine</span></em> a preponderance of blood, and <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">choleric</span></em> a preponderance of choler, or yellow bile.” (“Psychological Typology” CW 6)“The whole make-up of the body, its constitution in the broadest sense, has in fact a very great deal to do with psychological <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span>…” (“Psychological Typology” CW 6)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Despite Warren’s claim, the Bible never gives “proof” of the classification of personalities; it is a purely pagan concoction. The four temperaments, as conceived by Hippocrates and later developed by Galen, was a prevalent Greek philosophy during the time of Paul’s apostolic ministry. Unlike Warren and Jung, however, Paul did not implement these Greeks ideas into his teachings. In fact, he categorically rejected them and “determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified” (I Cor 2:2).“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:” I Timothy 6:20</p>
<p>Worse yet, Warren is teaching that a person’s “no right or wrong” personality is somehow unaffected by the fall and is always beneficial for ministry. How, we ask, does a “phlegmatic temperament” towards laziness and slothfulness serve God’s purpose in ministry?</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“Today there are many books and tools that can help you understand your personality so you can determine how to use it for God.” (PDL, p. 246)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">MBTI is “based on Jung’s theory of psychological types.” (Isabel Briggs Myers, Introduction to Type, Palo Alto, CA: Consulting Psychologists Press, 1983, p.4)“The (MBTI) Indicator was developed specifically to carry Carl Jung’s theory of type (Jung, 1921, 1971) into practical application.” (Dr. Gordon Lawrence, People Types &#38; Tiger Stripes, p. 6, also p. x)</p>
<p>“Carl Jung’s psychology lies behind&#8230;the MBTI.” (Robert Innes, Personality Indicators and The Spiritual Life, p.8)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Without qualifying this statement, Warren is promoting any and all Jungian personality and temperament tests and theories, including the widely-used Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), the Kiersey Temperament Sorter (an offshoot of the MBTI), and the Enneagram Test, which has its origin in Sufism, a mystical offshoot of Islam. (Click <a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0146a.html" target="_blank">here</a> for more information on Enneagram).Despite the contrary advice offered by Warren, Christians must acknowledge the Bible as the only book needed to understand the human condition:</p>
<p>“For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12</p>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“Every behavior is motivated by a belief, and every action is prompted by an attitude. God revealed this thousands of years <span style="text-decoration:underline;">before psychologists understood it</span>.” (PDL, p. 181)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“(Unconscious phenomena) manifest themselves in the individual’s behaviour… ” (“Conscious, Unconscious, and Individuation” CW 9)“Modern psychological development leads to a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much better understanding</span> as to what man really consists of.” (“Psychology and Religion” CW 11)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Warren is suggesting here that psychologists have the same understanding as God on the issue of human behavior, thus putting man’s “wisdom” on equal footing with God’s revelation.If Warren truly believes in the preeminence of God’s revelation to understand man, then why does he rely so heavily on the “useless wisdom” of psychology instead of Scripture?</p>
<p>“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, ‘He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS‘; and again, ‘THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS.’” I Cor 3:19-20</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“The best use of your life is to serve God out of your shape. To do this you <span style="text-decoration:underline;">must discover your shape</span>, learn to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">accept</span> and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">enjoy</span> it, and then <span style="text-decoration:underline;">develop it</span> to its fullest potential.” (PDL, p. 249)The SHAPE program states: “To <span style="text-decoration:underline;">discover your S.H.A.P.E.</span> is to discover where God is calling you to do His work in the world.”</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“Only the man who can <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciously assent to the power of the inner voice</span> becomes a personality.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)“The <span style="text-decoration:underline;">achievement of personality</span> means nothing less than the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">optimum development</span> of the whole individual human being.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)</p>
<p>“In so far as every individual has the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">law of his life</span> inborn in him, it is theoretically possible for any man to follow this law and to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">become a personality</span>, this is, to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">achieve wholeness</span>.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Finding your SHAPE has no biblical support. Warren’s teaching that one must “discover his shape” is philosophically and systematically akin to Jung’s teaching that a man must “consciously assent to the power of the inner voice” and be true to “the law of his being.”While Warren has rightly acknowledged God’s sovereign purpose in creating us, he has mistakenly made God’s divine purpose synonymous with our so-called “shape” by advocating the Jungian idea of developing the personality to “achieve wholeness.” This Jungian process, however, does not serve God, but serves the god within us.</p>
<p>Scripture calls for an active, heartfelt obedience to God’s will through the transforming power of the Spirit, not a misguided exploration of our natural psychological makeup to define our God-given purpose.</p>
<p>“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” Proverbs 3:5-6</p>
<p>“…your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.” 1 Cor 2:5</td>
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<p>I agree substantially with the second sentence of<em> <a href="http://www.acommonword.com/index.php?lang=en&#38;page=option1">A Common Word Between Us and You</a></em>: “Without peace and justice between these two religious communities [Muslims and Christians], there can be no meaningful peace in the world.” I take that to be a reference to national, social, and personal <em>behaviors</em>, not to expressed feelings or expressed ideas. And I agree with the sentence from the last paragraph of commentary: “So let our differences not cause hatred and strife between us.”</p>
<p><strong>A Flawed Central Summons</strong></p>
<p>But the central summons of <em>A Common Word</em> is flawed. This summons aims to provide a foundation for all future interfaith dialogue. The document says (p. 15), “Let this common ground be the basis of all future interfaith dialogue between us, for our common ground is that on which <em>hangs all the law and the prophets</em> (<a href="http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Matthew%2022.4" target="_blank">Matthew 22:4</a>).”</p>
<p>What is the central summons of <em>A Common Word</em>? The phrase “a common word between us and you” is taken from the Qur’an (Aal ‘Imran 3:64; <em>A Common Word</em>, p. 13). Quoting God, it says, “<em>O People of the Scripture [Jews and Christians]! Come to a common word between us and you: that we shall worship none but God . . . .</em>” This quotation is important because it makes clear that the central summons of <em>A Common Word</em> is not that we agree as monotheists on the formal principles that love to God (whoever he is) and love to neighbor (whoever they are) are a formal common ground. That may be true. But what the quotation from the Qur’an makes clear is that the central summons of <em>A Common Word</em> is that Christians and Muslims actually love the same God.</p>
<p>Read the full manuscript <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/ConferenceMessages/ByDate/2009/4396_Evangelicals_and_A_Common_Word/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Listen to John Piper&#8217;s presentation <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/MediaPlayer/4396/Audio/">here</a>.</p>
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<link>http://rachelinraleigh.com/2009/11/21/weve-come-to-declare-the-beauty-of-the-lord-art-in-your-home/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[My Inspiration Notebook :: Pictures, Paint Samples, Fabric Swatches As Tyler and I work to display t]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">As Tyler and I work to display the order and beauty of our Lord through decorating our home, we have thought a lot about art and how we want to use it in our home. We know we love color! and order! and great design to the art!  &#8211; because this reflects who God is.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">We  are excited that the working out of our salvation and loving God with all of who we are applies as we think through, purchase, and complete projects around our home.We want each piece to be right, to function well, to be beautiful to the eyes and warm to the soul. We want to dedicate our hearts and our money to purchases that make sense and glorify the Lord. We want to humbly and lovingly share the home God has given us with our family and friends.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The blog post excerpt below was so enlightening to me as Tyler and I plan and fill our home with good things to glorify Him and welcome others into our home. Chesterton&#8217;s statement helps us as we take part in creating and designing and decorating our home.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#4b4ba5;">&#8220;Here is <a title="Chesterton" href="http://wikipedia.org" target="_blank">Chesterton </a>on the essence of art.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#4b4ba5;">&#8216;Art is limitation; the essence of every picture is the frame. If you draw a giraffe you must draw him with a long neck. If in your bold creative way you hold yourself free to draw a giraffe with a short neck you will really find that you are not free to draw a giraffe. <a title="(Orthodoxy, 71)" href="http://amazon.com" target="_blank">(Orthodoxy, 71)</a>&#8216;&#8221;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Chesterton so wisely writes that in  order, framing, and natural constraints the artist finds his freedom to create.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">How will you apply the beautiful truth that we believers are here to declare the beauty of the Lord as you have family and friends in your home for Thanksgiving and as you decorate for Christmas this year and think of organizing in the New Year?</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><a title="From : Desiring God Blog &#34;Art and the Precious Limits of Reality&#34; Posted: 19 Nov 2009 05:27 AM PST (Author: John Piper)" href="http://desiringgod.org/" target="_blank">From : Desiring God Blog &#8220;Art and the Precious Limits of Reality&#8221; Posted: 19 Nov 2009 05:27 AM PST (Author: John Piper)</a></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#333399;">{PS: Tyler and I would love to have you over soon}</span></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Reformed theology in Scandinavia - reflections part 1]]></title>
<link>http://danhaland.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/reformed-theology-in-scandinavia-reflections-part-1/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<guid>http://danhaland.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/reformed-theology-in-scandinavia-reflections-part-1/</guid>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>I announced in an earlier blogpost that I would spend some time to share some reflections I have on Reformed theology or grace theology that is entering into Scandinavia. As far as I can see it there are three streams that I would like to reflect on. We have reformed charismatic movements, we have the so-called grace-preaching and then I can see another stream of reformed theology that I would like to start up reflecting on today.</p>
<p>I would like to start by reflecting on a stream of Reformed theology that I perceive is gaining some ground in Scandinavia. It&#8217;s represented especially by an American pastor named Paul Washer. From what I&#8217;ve seen they seem to put a lot of emphasis on repentance from sin and how we are all sinners that need to repent. Put Amazing back into grace seem to be a phrase commonly used by people who would identify with this preaching, and the obvious meaning of that phrase is that by realising how our sin has separated us from God, and by grieving our sin and then to look at the cross and realise that our sin is atoned for by the death of Jesus, make us realise how amazing God&#8217;s grace is. &#8220;What is man that God be mindful of him&#8221; (Psalm 8:4) and &#8220;Behold, even the moon is not bright, and the stars are not pure in his eyes; how much less man, who is a maggot, and the son of man, who is a worm!” (Job 25:5-6) would be verses from the Scripture that would be lifted forward in order to show man&#8217;s inadequancy and by constantly grieving our own sin would then even more make God&#8217;s grace more amazing in our eyes. There also seem to be a strong emphasis holiness and rejecting sin, even to the point where fear of whether we are saved or not is allowed to gain ground when we do sin.</p>
<p>My first reflection on what I&#8217;ve seen and heard from this stream so far would be that theologically I would agree with a lot of things like being amazed about who we really are and what we deserve and then realise the amazing grace God has given us. I sometimes meditate on the curses that are given in for example Deuteronomy for those who do not obey all of God&#8217;s commandments and it makes me realise that I actually don&#8217;t deserve the grace He has given me. That is healthy exercise! However, my biggest problem with preachers that are inspired by Paul Washer is when I listen to them speaking because then the grace of God doesn&#8217;t seem to be that amazing anymore, it doesn&#8217;t even seem to be there even. It&#8217;s often very hard and harsh messages that&#8217;s building up condemnation in the people listening. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be any &#8220;forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead&#8221; but rather a constant lifting up of what&#8217;s behind. The way I see it we should rather have our strength in the joy of the Lord and in rejoicing in who we now are in Christ through his grace, rather than constantly looking back to who we once were in sin. It does have a value in order to show us our need for grace, but the strength to then live for Christ does not come from there.<br />
Jesus did not seem to have his biggest problem with the sinners, the prostitutes or the believers that fell, like Peter for example, but rather with the religious, those who didn&#8217;t &#8220;sin&#8221; and therefore was unable to put their trust in another man&#8217;s righteousness.</p>
<p>I would like to finish my reflections by sharing a video clip from another reformed preacher, Mark Driscoll, sharing a message on John Piper&#8217;s conference &#8220;The supremacy of Christ in a postmodern world 2006&#8243;. The irony would be that the people who listen to Paul Washer also seem to listen to people like John Piper and Mark Driscoll, altough I would say that the message we will hear in this video radically differs from what Paul Washer would say.</p>
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