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<title><![CDATA["from bible-belt pastor to atheist"]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[by Robert Worth &nbsp; Late one night in early May 2011, a preacher named Jerry DeWitt was lying in]]></description>
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<p>Late one night in early May 2011, a preacher named Jerry DeWitt was lying in bed in DeRidder, La., when his phone rang. He picked it up and heard an anguished, familiar voice. It was Natosha Davis, a friend and parishioner in a church where DeWitt had preached for more than five years. Her brother had been in a bad motorcycle accident, she said, and he might not survive.</p>
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<p>DeWitt knew what she wanted: for him to pray for her brother. It was the kind of call he had taken many times during his 25 years in the ministry. But now he found that the words would not come. He comforted her as best he could, but he couldn’t bring himself to invoke God’s help. Sensing her disappointment, he put the phone down and found himself sobbing. He was 41 and had spent almost his entire life in or near DeRidder, a small town in the heart of the Bible Belt. All he had ever wanted was to be a comfort and a support to the people he grew up with, but now a divide stood between him and them. He could no longer hide his disbelief. He walked into the bathroom and stared at himself in the mirror. “I remember thinking, Who on this planet has any idea what I’m going through?” DeWitt told me.</p>
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<p>As his wife slept, he fumbled through the darkness for his laptop. After a few quick searches with the terms “pastor” and “atheist,” he discovered that a cottage industry of atheist outreach groups had grown up in the past few years. Within days, he joined an online network called the <a title="" href="http://clergyproject.org/">Clergy Project</a>, created for clerics who no longer believe in God and want to communicate anonymously through a secure Web site.</p>
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<p>DeWitt began e-mailing with dozens of fellow apostates every day and eventually joined another new network called <a title="" href="http://recoveringfromreligion.org/">Recovering From Religion</a>, intended to help people extricate themselves from evangelical Christianity. Atheists, he discovered, were starting to reach out to one another not just in the urban North but also in states across the South and West, in the kinds of places­ DeWitt had spent much of his career as a traveling preacher. After a few months he took to the road again, this time as the newest of a new breed of celebrity, the atheist convert. They have their own apostles (Bertrand Russell, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens) and their own language, a glossary borrowed from Alcoholics Anonymous, the Bible and gay liberation (you always “come out” of the atheist closet).</p>
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<p>DeWitt quickly repurposed his preacherly techniques, sharing his reverse-conversion story and his thoughts on “the five stages of disbelief” to packed crowds at “Freethinker” gatherings across the Bible Belt, in places like Little Rock and Houston. As his profile rose in the movement this spring, his Facebook and Twitter accounts began to fill with earnest requests for guidance from religious doubters in small towns across America. “It’s sort of a brand-new industry,” DeWitt told me. “There isn’t a lot of money in it, but there’s a lot of momentum.”</p>
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<p>Not long ago, the atheist movement was the preserve of a few eccentric gadflies like Madalyn Murray O’Hair, whose endless lawsuits helped earn her the title “the most hated woman in America.” But over the past decade it has matured into something much larger and less cranky. In March of this year, some 20,000 people marched through a cold drizzle at the “Reason Rally” in Washington, billed as a political debut for the movement. A string of best-selling atheist polemics by the “four horsemen” — Hitchens and Dawkins, as well as Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett — has provided new intellectual fuel. Secular-themed organizations and clubs have begun to permeate small-town America and college campuses, helping to foot the bill for bus and billboard ad campaigns with messages like “Are You Good Without God? Millions Are.”</p>
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<p>The reasons for this secular revival are varied, but it seems clear that the Internet has helped, and many younger atheists cite the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks as a watershed moment of disgust with religious zealotry in any form. It is hard to say how many people are involved; avowed atheists are still a tiny sliver of the population. But people with no religious affiliation are the country’s fastest-growing religious category. When asked about religious affiliation in a Pew poll published this summer, nearly 20 percent of Americans chose “none,” the highest number the center has recorded. Many of those people would not call themselves atheists; “agnostic,” which technically refers to people who believe that the existence of a higher being can’t be known by the human mind, remains the safer option. The godless are now younger and more diverse than in the past, with blacks and Hispanics — once vanishingly rare — starting to appear in the ranks of national groups like the United Coalition of Reason and the <a title="" href="http://www.secularstudents.org/">Secular Student Alliance</a>.</p>
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<p>The movement has also begun cultivating a new breed of guru in men like DeWitt and Nate Phelps, the son of Fred Phelps, the leader of Westboro Baptist Church, which pickets military funerals and gay-pride events with signs declaring “God Hates Fags.” Nate Phelps, a big, barrel-chested man who delivers fierce rebuttals of his father’s theology and narrates the agonies of his fundamentalist upbringing, has become a star speaker at atheist rallies and gay-pride events around the country. At the Reason Rally, crowds cheered as he declared that the Sept. 11 attacks played a critical role in blasting away his lingering belief in any sort of deity.Because they started out as fervent Christians, unlike Dawkins and Hitchens and company, Phelps and DeWitt are seen as heroes within the movement. They tend to live and work in the country’s most Bible-soaked places. “I think what’s happening is that nontheists are realizing we can’t just leave this cause to Ivy Leaguers and intellectuals,” DeWitt told me. “We’ve got to convey the secular worldview in a more emotional way.”</p>
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<p>At the same time, DeWitt is something of a reality check for many atheists, whose principles rarely cost them more than the price of “The God Delusion” in paperback. DeWitt refuses to leave DeRidder, a place where religion, politics and family pride are indivisible. Six months after he was “outed” as an atheist he lost his job and his wife — both, he says, as a direct consequence. Only a handful of his 100-plus relatives from DeRidder still speak to him. When I visited him, in late June, his house was in foreclosure, and he was contemplating moving into his 2007 Chrysler PT Cruiser. This is the kind of environment where godlessness remains a real struggle and raises questions that could ramify across the rest of the country. Is the “new atheism” part of a much broader secularizing trend, like the one that started emptying out the churches in European towns and villages a century ago? Or is it just a ticket out of town?</p>
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<p><strong>DeRidder is a</strong> four-hour drive northwest of New Orleans, near the Texas border. It is a tiny place, surrounded by thick forests of long-leaf pine, where many of the 10,000-odd residents have known one another all their lives. There is one major commercial strip lined with fast-food restaurants and chain stores, and in the rest of town it is difficult to drive a block without passing a church. Many of them are Pentecostals, part of the revivalist Christian movement in which worshipers often speak in tongues — babbling in what is thought to be a sacred language — sometimes while writhing on the floor. In the local Walmart, it’s easy to recognize the more conservative Pentecostal women, who wear modest, long dresses in a high-waisted style, their hair, which they do not cut, pulled neatly into buns.</p>
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<p>When I first met Jerry DeWitt, I half expected a provincial contrarian hungry for attention. Instead, he was mild and apologetic, a short, baby-faced man with a gentle smile and a neatly trimmed dark beard. He was earnest and warm, and I soon discovered that many of his fellow townspeople cannot help liking him, no matter how much they dislike his atheism. He appears to have reached his conclusions about God with reluctance, and with remorse for the pain he has caused his friends and family. He seems to bear no grudge toward them. “At every atheist event I go to, there’s always someone who’s been hurt by religion, who wants me to tell him all preachers are charlatans,” DeWitt told me, soon after we met. “I always have to disappoint them. The ones I know are mostly very good people.”</p>
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<p>DeWitt is a native son in every way, and this must make his apostasy all the more difficult for others to make sense of and to accept. He is descended from a long line of preachers on both sides of the family. His paternal grandfather helped establish at least 16 different churches­ in Louisiana, including one in DeRidder, he told me. (I found 69 churches in the town directory, though some may be inactive.) DeWitt grew up in the church, but it was only at 17, after being “saved” during a weekend visit to Jimmy Swaggart’s church in Baton Rouge, that he became a passionate Christian. Weeks later he spoke in tongues for the first time. Soon after that, sitting in church, he heard his pastor call on him to deliver a homily. Terrified, he asked if he could have a few minutes to pray for guidance. He stepped to the pulpit with his finger on a passage from the Gospel of Mark, and spoke for 15 minutes on the “seed of David.” The crowd loved it. “It was the biggest high I’d ever had,” he told me. “I knew right then that preaching was what I wanted to do with the rest of my life.” He married a local girl at age 20, and two weeks after the wedding, he received an invitation to speak at a camp meeting in Lucedale, Miss. There he preached to overflow crowds of whooping Pentecostals who were speaking in tongues.He and his wife began touring the South, building a reputation for the power of his sermons. It was a tremendous ego charge, especially for a short, chubby young man with dyslexia. For the first time, he was treated with respect, even awe. “I had this whole prophet persona going on. I wouldn’t really mix with people before the sermon,” he told me. “All kinds of people were seeing miracles, and I believed it 100 percent.”</p>
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<p><strong>For the next few years</strong>, DeWitt preached across the South, doing itinerant jobs to pay the bills. In 2004 he became a full-time preacher at a church near DeRidder. By that time, though, he had drifted away from the literal claims of Pentecostal doctrine and espoused a more liberal Christianity. He had begun reading more widely (he never got a college degree), starting with Carl Sagan’s books on science and moving on to Joseph Campbell and others. But equally, he told me, he found it unbearable to promote beliefs that only seemed to sow confusion and self-blame. He recalled how one middle-aged woman in his church who was suffering from heart disease asked him anxiously: “How am I going to believe for salvation when I can’t believe enough to heal?”</p>
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<p>Finally he began to feel that his rationalist impulses were alienating and hurting his flock, and he resigned — reluctantly, he said, because he loved the human side of being a pastor, “playing Mr. Fix-It for the community.” He continued preaching part time for a while, invoking an ever more misty and ethereal God. By now he had also read Dawkins and Hitchens, and even weak-tea Christianity was becoming hard to swallow. He preached his last sermon in April 2011, in the town of Cut and Shoot, Tex. A month later, Natosha Davis called, and DeWitt found himself unable to pray at all.</p>
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<p>DeWitt never meant to go public with his unbelief. He figured he could “stay under the radar,” he said, and continue working as a buildings inspector in DeRidder, where, over the years, he had gained a reputation as a community champion and was talked about as a future mayor. But when he heard that Richard Dawkins would be attending a Freethinkers gathering in Houston, he couldn’t resist. He took a day off, without telling his boss where he was going. He got a picture taken of himself and his son Paul (who was then 19 and who has never been religious) with Dawkins. DeWitt posted the photograph on his Facebook page, assuming that “nobody in DeRidder knew who Dawkins was.” He also, perhaps unwisely, updated the “religious views” box on his Facebook page to read “secular humanist.”</p>
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<p>It was his grandmother’s cousin, an 84-year-old woman he knew as Aunt Grace, who saw that page and outed him. Word spread quickly. On Dec. 1, his boss asked to meet him at a diner in town. Sitting at the table, the man took out two printouts from secular Web sites with DeWitt’s name on it. “He told me: ‘The Pentecostals who run the parish are not happy, and something’s got to be done,’ ”DeWitt recalled. “Half an hour later I was out of a job.” (His former boss did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.)</p>
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<p>Almost at once, DeWitt became a pariah in DeRidder. His wife found herself ostracized in turn, and the marriage suffered. She moved out in June. He received a constant stream of hate messages — some threatening — and still does, more than seven months later. He played me a recent one he had saved on his cellphone as we ate lunch at a diner in town. “It’s just sickening to hear you try to turn people atheist,” a guttural voice intoned. It went on and on, telling DeWitt to go to hell in various ways. “I’m not going to sit around while you turn people against God,” the voice said at one point.</p>
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<p>But DeWitt also hurled himself into his new role as a faith healer in reverse. He became the first “graduate” of the Clergy Project, discarding his anonymity and giving the clandestine preachers’ group its first dash of publicity. It was formed in early 2011 with a few dozen members, mostly recruited through Dan Barker, a former pastor who is co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, and through Linda LaScola, who in 2010 co-conducted a study of nonbelieving pastors with Daniel Dennett, the atheist philosopher. The project now has more than 300 members, with about 80 applicants awaiting clearance (the group is very careful about admissions, to secure the members’ privacy).DeWitt also became the executive director of Recovering From Religion, formed in 2009 by Darrel Ray, a Kansas-based atheist proselytizer. The group grew quickly under DeWitt’s leadership and now includes at least 100 local chapters scattered across the country, each one typically with 10 to 12 participants. Like other public figures in the movement, DeWitt also serves as a one-man clearinghouse for religious doubters via Facebook and e-mail. During the four days I spent with him in DeRidder, he was almost constantly checking his cellphone and tapping out messages.</p>
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<p>There is more involved in this work than sympathy. The transition away from faith may start with an intellectual epiphany, but it runs through a difficult reinterpretation of your own past. For believers, this often involves what DeWitt calls a “hook,” or a miraculous story that helps anchor your faith. He gave me an example: he was born again in Jimmy Swaggart’s church thanks to his former elementary-school teacher, who persuaded him to come along with her to Baton Rouge. He later discovered that his teacher almost died while she was being born, and that she had emerged safely from the womb only after a preacher from a neighboring town was roused from sleep to offer a blessing in the delivery room. That preacher was DeWitt’s paternal grandfather. This coincidence had seemed providential to DeWitt, a sign that he was meant to be a preacher himself.</p>
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<p>“This story has kept you feeling that God has a destiny for you,” DeWitt said. “So now how do you reconcile that? How do you make sense of your life? It’s not easy.”</p>
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<p>I heard parallel stories from a number of other participants in post-religion networks. “People have a really difficult time making decisions after they’ve lost their faith,” said Amanda Schneider, who organized a local Recovering From Religion group in Santa Fe (and also helps manage the broader organization). “They used to always base it on ‘What is God’s plan for me?’ They are still looking for something miraculous to guide them.”</p>
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<p>One former pastor named Teresa MacBain told me that when she began doubting her faith last year, she ran through her list of friends and acquaintances and realized that every single one of them was religious. With no one to confide in, she began recording her thoughts into her iPhone when she was alone in the car. “It was a huge encouragement when I finally found other people to talk to online,” she told me. Like DeWitt, MacBain joined the Clergy Project. Then, earlier this year, she resigned from her pastor’s position in Tallahassee and went public as an atheist. She was promptly defriended (in the literal and Facebook sense) by almost everyone she knew. But like DeWitt, she has begun receiving frequent messages from doubting pastors and churchgoers, seeking her help in making the leap away from God. “It’s all new friends now,” she said.</p>
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<p>That kind of abrupt excommunication is a fairly common experience, and many atheist networks — including hundreds on college campuses — become replacement communities and de facto dating services for many people involved. “Community is a huge problem for people wanting to leave religion,” DeWitt told me as we drove through DeRidder. He pointed to a church as we passed, then another, and another, and another. “How do you escape it?” he said. “It’s not like you can avoid driving past the church every day.”</p>
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<p><strong>In late June</strong>, Jerry DeWitt allowed me to accompany him to church in DeRidder. It was the first time he had attended since his apostasy became public, and he half-jokingly predicted that we would be attacked, or that the service would turn into a prayer session for our wayward souls. But he also made clear that he had no desire to hold religious doctrine up for ridicule. He wanted me to witness the emotional power of the ceremony and the music. He wanted me to understand why people are drawn to church, not just why they leave it. The church we attended — known as Grace — was one of the most liberal in town, multiracial and less orthodox than hard-line Pentecostals. He had delivered sermons there himself, and he was known by many, perhaps most of the parishioners.As we arrived outside the church’s white porticos on a hot June morning, I could tell DeWitt’s fears were unfounded. “I’m praying for him” is the refrain when his name comes up, his mother had told me. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Sure enough, everyone we met was gracious, though there was often an undercurrent of unease. The service, by my own etiolated WASP standards, was an orgy of religious passion: people of all ages praised themselves hoarse as a high-decibel gospel band and choir shook the walls with heartfelt rhythm and blues. The preacher then delivered a homily about the risks of being a “catch-and-release Christian,” and I couldn’t help wondering if this was aimed at DeWitt.</p>
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<p>Afterward, we met with the church’s founding pastor in an elegantly appointed office adjoining the main auditorium. He was a 79-year-old man named George Glass, with a wrinkled face and a magnificent deep voice full of warmth and gravitas. He hugged us both as we came in, chiding DeWitt for having stayed away for so long. We sat down, and over the course of an hour, he spoke movingly about his own struggles as a younger man, when he lost his first ministry and had to start from scratch. He reassured DeWitt that he understood his doubts and did not think any less of him. As we said our goodbyes at the door, Glass spoke again in his slow, Southern cadence, fixing DeWitt with his gaze. “The thing of it is,” he said, and we all waited as he allowed a weighty pause to fill the air — “you’ve just got to keep your mouth shut.”</p>
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<p>Everyone laughed. But I did later wonder if all the public atheism had done DeWitt more harm than good. Couldn’t he have remained a nominal Christian, as so many others have? Even the old pastor, George Glass, acknowledged that others in the church had had problems with literalist claims about the Bible, and prefer not to talk about it. It is easy to see why. Open confrontation with faith, some would say, just provokes angry gestures from the faithful. In DeWitt’s case, those gestures had taken a wrecking ball to the life he spent 42 years building. He was once seen as a potential mayor of DeRidder. He helped clean up some of the town’s uglier spots when he worked at City Hall, and he knew the insides of almost every building in town; he knew and cared about most of the residents. Now many of them, he was told, believed he was a Satanist. During my short stay in DeRidder, I heard him take a call from the lawyer handling the foreclosure of his house, and I saw his wife’s moving boxes on their living-room floor. She’d had enough.</p>
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<p>Was it possible, I wondered, that he was doing this deliberately? DeWitt is an intensely curious man, a homegrown intellectual who seems a little stifled in DeRidder. Was this a way of moving on? Would he really still want to be mayor of DeRidder someday, if it were possible?</p>
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<p>“I’m so entrenched in this community, I feel like I’d be lost if I went anywhere else,” he said. “As for being mayor, who knows, stranger things have happened. I’d like to stay.” The town had changed a lot since his childhood, he explained. The old Pentecostalism had mostly softened into a more open, tolerant Christianity. He said he’d been amazed by the number of quiet atheists he discovered in towns throughout the South, looking for congenial voices online. Perhaps his community would one day welcome atheists, too.</p>
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<p>DeWitt stood thinking as we waited in a stone garden outside the church (he said he wanted to make sure Glass and his wife got off safely in their car before he left). He said he admired the Glasses­, and the congregation, and many aspects of the church itself: its good works, the beauty of the music, the community it fostered. “Religion does a lot of good, especially the loving kind, like at Grace Church,” he said. “I know people who went to a more liberal kind of Christianity and were happy with that. The problem is, for me, there was a process involved in moving from Pentecostalism to a more liberal theology, like Grace Church. What makes me different is that process didn’t stop, and it took me all the way. In the end, I couldn’t help feeling that all religion, even the most loving kind, is just a speed bump in the progress of the human race.”</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/from-bible-belt-pastor-to-atheist-leader.html?pagewanted=1&#38;%2359;smid=go-share&#38;%2359&#38;_r=3&#38;%2359;pagewanted=1"><strong>source</strong></a>)</p>
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<title><![CDATA[The Clergy Project: Is Atheism is the new Gay?]]></title>
<link>http://mysticpolitics.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/the-clergy-project-is-atheism-is-the-new-gay/</link>
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<description><![CDATA[The Clergy Project assists atheist preachers leaving the religion closet/confessional by using lgbt]]></description>
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<p>The Clergy Project assists atheist preachers leaving the religion closet/confessional by using lgbt “coming out” metaphors.</p>
<p>As an atheist, LGBT, or Atheist LGBT, does the Clergy Project&#8217;s &#8216;coming out&#8217; metaphor for atheist clergy offend you?</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://mys.tc/26h">The Clergy Project: Is Atheism is the new Gay?</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 240px"><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5909847/you-have-never-seen-so-much-wood-in-your-entire-life"><img class="     " src="http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17mfyh0gpyp9sjpg/xlarge.jpg" alt="" width="230" height="130" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Worlds largest woodpile, Byholma, Sweden.</p></div>
<p><span style="color:#800080;"><strong>Update:</strong></span> Is it possible that the firing of Teresa Sullivan from the University of Virginia is part of a ratfucking operation to get Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts?? See <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/16/Did-Breitbart-Investigation-Play-Any-Role-in-Sudden-Resignation-of-UVA-President" target="_blank">this post at Brietbart</a> (Ewww) for details.  Firing Sullivan may be the first step in making Warren look like she is guilty of scientific misconduct.  Regardless, the Board of Visitors should be investigated.  Who are they taking orders from?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m cleaning out the Instapaper queue this morning.  Let&#8217;s take a look:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2012/06/scientist_shortage_is_a_myth_.html" target="_blank">Derek Lowe writes a response</a> in Slate to a recent Slate article that claims that we need more scientists and mathematicians.  No, what we really need are more jobs for the hundreds of thousands of STEM majors who are out of work right now.</p>
<p><a href="http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2012/06/14/organic_synthesis_a_dead_end_for_graduate_students.php" target="_blank">Derek also has a post about the future of Organic chemistry</a> in this country.  Bottom line: there is no future in this country for organic chemists and a recent National Research Council Committee study confirms this:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Whitesides believes that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the question should be asked whether PhD theses are narrow technical presentations for jobs that no longer exis</span>t. Should U.S. graduate students be doing organic synthesis if most organic synthesis is being done in China? “That’s not to say that these aren’t really important activities, but we need to connect our investment in graduate school with what’s actually needed to give jobs to students.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s really sad.  America has produced some of the finest chemists of the modern era but if there are no jobs after graduate school, why bother studying a dead field? You might as well get a PhD in Alchemy for all the good it will do you.  Our country hasn&#8217;t felt the full effects of all of the industrial slashing and burning on our scientific infrastructure yet but it&#8217;s coming and it won&#8217;t be pretty.  Meanwhile, our wealth of scientists are forced to pursue other careers&#8230;</p>
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<p>Theresa MacBain, the Methodist pastor who recently came out as an atheist, <a href="http://radio.foxnews.com/2012/06/18/audio-atheist-former-minister-speaks-out/" target="_blank">gave a short interview on Fox News radio</a>.  It&#8217;s only 9 minutes.  Well worth the time. She did very well and held her own.  Good job, Theresa.  It&#8217;s not easy taking on the blowhards at Fox.  Let&#8217;s hope some of this interview percolated into the minds of the listeners.</p>
<p>Theresa is presently directing <a href="http://clergyproject.org/" target="_blank">the Clergy Project</a>, an initiative to help non-believing pastors make the transition into the civilian world.  The purpose of the Clergy Project is not to deconvert practicing pastors.  The pastors that join the project are already past the point of deconversion.  They just want out of the pulpit because they want to stop living a lie and they need to make a safe landing.  The number of clergy who have joined the project has swelled dramatically since McBain and another graduate, Jerry DeWitt, have barnstormed the country in the past couple of months.  They have almost 300 members and many more clergy who are on a waiting list to be screened before they can join.</p>
<p>In another sign of the atheist apocalypse, Linda LaScola, a researcher on religion, gave an interview to CNN about the rate of deconversion and its future effects on politics. The days of the religious right strangling the country and squashing modernity are numbered.</p>
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<p>As more people turn away from religion, there is an associated trend that shows they are becoming more liberal.  So, you have to wonder why Democrats seem scared to death of the religious right.  If they just hang in there and stop ceding ground to the conservatives, in a few election cycles, the pendulum will have swung the other way.  In fact, Republicans seem to be frantically throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the electorate this year because they know they are rapidly running out of time.  Before long, there won&#8217;t be enough elderly, conservative religious voters who they can conscript for the plutocrats.</p>
<p>By the way, did you know that up until recently, most people stayed with the religion traditions they were brought up in?  And according to Bob Altemeyer, author of <a href="http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/" target="_blank">The Authoritarians</a>, &#8220;amazing apostates&#8221;, those individuals who reject their  fundamentalist upbringings and become secular do so at the rate of about 1%.  What the data shows recently is that the rate of deconversion is picking up with greater access to the internet.</p>
<p>Previously, that 1% shared some common characteristics, such as being good in school and valuing truth.  In other words, we don&#8217;t just accept what people tell us unquestioningly no matter how much our parents isolate us.  Altemeyer also found that there are a few people who go the other way from secular households to religious conversion but these people tend to be less well educated and they make their conversions after some life-changing event like an illness, unemployment or relationaship failure.  In other words, religious conversions happen when people are most vulnerable to persuasion and to individuals who are least able to reason their way out of it.  These findings are similar to my own experience.  I never believed the fundamentalist crap I was fed and to get me to believe it now, after I have seen the proof of evolution in my research and now know the historical facts behind the bible, would require me to undergo a lobotomy.</p>
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<p>Something very weird is going on at the University of Virginia.  Last week, the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/us/university-of-virginia-board-considers-sullivan-replacement.html?_r=1" target="_blank">President Teresa Sullivan, was asked to resign abruptly by the University&#8217;s Board of Visitors</a>, which is like the Board of Regents everywhere else.  The reasons for the resignation are not clear.  Even Sullivan herself is not actually sure why she was fired and the board is not answering questions to anyone&#8217;s satisfaction.  This move came 2 years after Sullivan was appointed and has, by all accounts, done an admirable job.</p>
<p>I first read about this a few days ago from <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/2012/06/teresa_sullivan_fired_from_uva_what_happens_when_universities_are_run_by_robber_barons_.html" target="_blank">a history professor there, Siva Vaidhyanathan, who wrote about the dismissal in Salon</a>.  What Vaidhyanathan describes sounds oddly familiar to those of us in the pharmaceutical industry who have lost our jobs due to cost saving measures of the shareholders:</p>
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<p>On Monday Dragas, sensing that the university community might want some explanation for such a radical act, sent out a second message: “The Board believes this environment calls for a much faster pace of change in administrative structure, in governance, in financial resource development and in resource prioritization and allocation. We do not believe we can even maintain our current standard under a model of incremental, marginal change. The world is simply moving too fast.”</p>
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<p>OK, then. It’s all about pace. I suppose this means the board will appoint a new president every two years. Or maybe more frequently, because that’s the only way to keep up with the pace of change.</p>
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<p>Earlier in the statement Dragas wrote that “the board feels strongly and overwhelmingly that we need bold and proactive leadership on tackling the difficult issues that we face.” So we can derive from Dragas’ statements that Sullivan was not bold enough, fast enough, or “proactive” enough to guide a bucolic 193-year-old institution founded by a stocking-wearing guy who studied Greek and Latin for fun.</p>
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<blockquote><p>We were all baffled. So Sullivan did nothing wrong? The board would not even hint at the reason she was fired. Conspiracy theories quickly circulated to fill the vacuum. And they got worse after Kiernan’s letter unleashed an unfounded fear that an MBA “cabal” was in cahoots with Goldman Sachs to loot the university.</p></blockquote>
<p>It sounds like the financiers&#8217; values have come to the University of Virginia because <em>they loves them some change!</em> The bizspeak jargon is always a bad sign.  No one knows what it really means, not even the speakers.  This leaves a lot of leeway to interpret the jargon on the fly to justify just about anything.  Vaidhyanathan suggests that donors to the university want more control over how their donations are used.  Maybe they want more influence over the curriculum or benefits or hiring.  Whatever it is, they want to impose change on their timetable and in their way without some capable university president who specialized in class dynamics and the sociology of debt getting in the way.</p>
<p>Did I mention that the University of Virginia has pretty reasonable tuition compared to its peers?  How much do you want to bet that that&#8217;s going to <em>Change!</em>™ now that the bonus class has got its grubby mitts on the steering wheel?  Cut back on wages benefits here, hire some more poorly paid adjunct professors there, get more companies to foot the bills for research, raise tuition 30% over a few years and voile!  This is not a charitable institution, after all.  Why should University of Virginia students and their parents get off easy?</p>
<p>The students and faculty have turned out for Sullivan and latest reports say that 4 of the 12 members of the Board of Visitors have approached Sullivan to ask her to stay.  But this is not a good working environment for anyone at the University and Sullivan warns that the faculty may be poached by other universities looking to pick up spooked researchers and professors.  Researchers need to be able to plan and require a contiguous and stable environment and this crap from the Board of Visitors is undermining that.  They&#8217;ll get their change for sure but what they will be left with won&#8217;t be worth anything after they&#8217;re done.  The university&#8217;s faculty need only look at the smoking hulks of our empty industrial labs and extraordinarily well compensated former MBA overlords to know what will come next.</p>
<p>Another disaster brought to you by the Goldman Sachs family of assholes.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">More <a href="http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/design-spotting-10-office-chairs-from-our-tech-tours-172092" target="_blank">office chairs</a>.  I&#8217;m still pining for <a href="http://www.westelm.com/products/swivel-leather-desk-chair-g243/?pkey=coffice-desk-chairs" target="_blank">the white leather one from West Elm</a> but the damn thing never goes on sale.<img class="aligncenter" src="http://rk.weimgs.com/weimgs/rk/images/wcm/products/201211/0064/img33x.jpg" alt="" width="84" height="84" /></p>
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<link>http://theskepticalmagician.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/the-clergy-project/</link>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to write about the <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> for a while, but up until now have not had the time to write something thoughtful to give it the attention it deserves.  Many of you have probably never heard of the project, so allow me to fill you in with the nuts and bolts from <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> website:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Clergy Project is a confidential online community for active and former clergy who do not hold supernatural beliefs.  Currently, the community&#8217;s 185 plus members use it to network and discuss what it&#8217;s like being an unbelieving leader in a religious community. The Clergy Project’s goal is to support members as they move beyond faith.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Basically, <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> is an online community that is comprised of  &#8221;alumni&#8221; &#8211; former members of the clergy who are no longer believers, and no longer active in ministry (I fall into this category), and &#8220;active&#8221; &#8211; current members of the clergy in ministry who are no longer believers.  The goal of the project is to help active, unbelieving clergy transition out of their ministry roles in a way that minimizes damage in their personal and professional lives.  Many of these members of the &#8220;active&#8221; group face significant challenges in terms of job transition, as well as holding together their personal friendships and familial relationships.</p>
<p>The project&#8217;s history can be traced back to a preliminary study that was conducted and published by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett">Daniel Dennett</a> and <a href="http://www.ftsociety.org/tag/linda-lascola/">Linda LaScola</a> back in 2010.  The study looked at individuals in the pulpit who were no longer believers, and was titled, &#8220;<a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/Non-Believing-Clergy.pdf">Preachers Who Are Not Believers</a>.&#8221;  Out of this study and further discussion between <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Barker">Dan Barker</a> of the <a href="http://www.ffrf.org">Freedom From Religion Foundation</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett">Daniel Dennett</a>, <a href="http://www.ftsociety.org/tag/linda-lascola/">Linda LaScola</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_dawkins">Richard Dawkins</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> began in March 2011 by invitation-only after a generous donation from the <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/">Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science</a>.  Since it&#8217;s inception, <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> has grown to nearly 200 members, with new members being added on a regular basis.</p>
<p>My transition from believer to unbeliever was not nearly as difficult as the situations faced by many &#8220;actives&#8221; in <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a>. I hadn&#8217;t been in full-time vocational ministry as a pastor since 2002, though my wife and I were active in our church, and had recently agreed to take the reigns of the worship ministry.  Over the course of a few months, the mental barriers and cognitive dissonance I was experiencing began to tip the scales bringing about my de-conversion.  It is a strange feeling to to lead a worship song on a Sunday morning that says, &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbzxeMyMNU&#38;feature=related">You Are In Control</a>&#8221; and to realize you no longer believe that.  Shortly thereafter, my wife and I backed out of our roles in the church and have enjoyed sleeping in on Sunday ever since.</p>
<p>Of course, I was fortunate in that my wife was on the same journey that I was.  Others are not so lucky, and often a member of the  <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> not only faces the breaking-apart of personal friendships, but also of marriages and relationships with other family members.  It is reasons such as these that make the existence of <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a> so vital to the success and mental well-being of members of the clergy as they transition their way out of the ministry.</p>
<p>If you are a member of the clergy, or former member of the clergy who is now an unbeliever (atheist, agnostic, skeptic, etc.), I would encourage you to <a href="http://clergyproject.org/join/application/">apply for membership</a> in the <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a>.  Your identity is kept secret (you&#8217;re assigned a pseudonym), and there is a stringent screening process to ensure only former or active clergy who are no longer believers are granted membership.  Not only does this enable you to get the help and support you need as you transition, but it also enables you to lend a helping hand to others who are in a similar situation to you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll part with a suggestion to listen to a &#8220;<a href="http://www.livingafterfaith.com/LAF00055AAJerryDewitt.mp3">sermon</a>&#8221; that was delivered by <a href="http://recoveringfromreligion.org/pages/JerryDeWitt">Jerry DeWitt</a>, who holds the distinction of being the first &#8220;graduate&#8221; of the <a href="http://www.clergyproject.org">The Clergy Project</a>.  Jerry delivered his message on <a href="http://www.livingafterfaith.com/LAF00055AAJerryDewitt.mp3"><em>Surviving Identity Suicide</em></a> at the recent <a href="http://www.atheists.org/">American Atheists</a> convention, and if you&#8217;ve never heard an <a href="http://www.livingafterfaith.com/LAF00055AAJerryDewitt.mp3">ex-pentecostal, southern preacher deliver a sermon</a> to a bunch of atheists,  you&#8217;re in for a real treat!</p>
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<p>When I was a practicing Catholic, I often stretched my imagination by visioning my church not as a global oppressor of women but as a segmented community, “a church with in a church”, that derived its mandate not from the pulpit in Rome but from the roots of liberation theology. I spent many years at the altar of feminist theologians, honoring their articulation of the liberated experience.</p>
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<p>Yet despite the appeal of feminist theology I now identify as a secular humanist. So what happened? To put it shortly and succinctly; I could no longer reconcile myself to belief. Instead I embraced the sentiment that I was not losing faith, but gaining reason. Since that time, I have spent many an unfettered hour thinking about religion, its function as a building block of society and how and when it will be retired as product of a bygone era.</p>
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<p>Which brings me to this article. Despite religion’s best efforts, things are changing, particularly in the West; with the influence of science a new world of possibilities, free from religion have come into focus. But there is also, in my opinion, another unknowing contributor – theology.</p>
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<p>The study and development of theology has become one of the main architects of internal schisms in the Roman Church. Most people in this day and age don’t take notice of who the Vatican is excommunicating or whose book has been banned. In most instances, the person in question is a theologian. Recent examples of theological thinking that has gotten the Church in a tither include the splinter group “Roman Catholic Womanpriest”, an international union of women priests ordained in the apostolic tradition. Also, since the 1970‘s the church has spoken against liberation theologies that it feels focus too much on the emancipate communities of disenfranchised persons seeking justice in areas of political, social, economic and ecological oppression. One of the most vocal of these groups include feminists.</p>
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<p>Rosemary Radford Ruether is one of the most influential feminist liberation theologians. Dr. Ruether has written numerous books on women and the church, including <em>Sexism and God Talk: Towards a Feminist Theology</em>. She currently teaches at Claremount School of Theology. She agreed to speak with me in preparation for this article.</p>
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<p><em>The recognition of sexism as wrong, evil and sinful brings about the total collapse of the myths of female evil&#8230; more than that, women have to suspect that the entire symbolic universe that surrounds them, which has socialized them to their roles, is deeply tainted by hostility to their humanity.</em></p>
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<p>Before I spoke with Dr. Ruether I knew that she would have a perspective that was contrary to official church teaching. In a very frank discussion she said that catholicism is not about the papacy, and “if you identify the hierarchy as the church, then you might as well forget about it (church).”</p>
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<p>When I asked Dr. Ruether to provide more information about what she meant by “church” she explained that her experience of it, “has some relationship to Christ, specifically as an inspiration for justice, but that church is mostly a community committed to an ecumenical and interfaith dialogue about liberation and social justice”, of which feminism is part of that tradition.</p>
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<p>When it comes to Ruether’s theology, the idea of church does seem “out of focus” with the general consensus of what it is to be a Christian and Catholic.</p>
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<p>Many would be surprised that most reputable theological schools are places where a convergence of similar ideas occurs; everything from the feminist perspectives of Ruether and Daly to biblical scholarship that includes the detailed study of pseudepigraphic texts as well as metaphorical concepts of god as mother or as the manifestation of love in the universe.</p>
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<p>Yet despite these differing views at the academic level, very little transcends to the pew.</p>
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<p>Rome continues to dictate the rules and obligations for millions of Catholics as it is the recognized church on the world stage. I have given a lot of thought to this conundrum, therefore it should not be surprising that theological students like myself, would find themselves trapped by doctrine when working in parishes, schools and hospitals.</p>
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<p>Concerning this topic, Daniel Dennett and Linda LaScola authored a recent study in Evolutionary Psychology, <em>Preachers Who Are Not Believers</em>, that clearly outlines what appears to be an emerging phenomenon.</p>
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<p>The loneliness of non-believing pastors is extreme. They have no trusted confidantes to reassure them, to reflect their own musings back to them, to provide reality checks. As their profiles reveal, even their spouses are often unaware of their turmoil. They are caught in a trap, cunningly designed to harness both their best intentions and their basest fears to the task of immobilizing them in their predicament.</p>
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<p>Inspired by this research, I spoke with a friend and former student of theology. She was aware that I had left the church but this was the first time that we had discussed it.</p>
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<p>Ever since John Stuart Mill, the liberal tradition has been wary of democracy and its potential for the tyranny of the majority and the oppression of individuals or minorities. As I have argued at length, what is disturbing about Strauss is that his cures for the ills of democracy exacerbate its fascistic hazards. Encouraging a secretive elite to justify all manner of dirty tricks, lies, deceptions, and an assortment of unethical and illegal tactics cannot “save” the world from the dangers of democracy. Equally misguided is the promotion of a religious and nationalist militancy.</p>
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<p>Though our meeting was conversational and at ease, I was struck by her relief at speaking with someone else about her evolving beliefs. Most notably she spoke in detail about the lack of solace or spiritual nourishment she found from her position as a school chaplain and her continued attendance at church. In fact, she indicated that she most often found it to undermine her happiness, resulting in frustration. She did say these frustrations contributed to her decision to leave her job as a chaplain and to pursue other career options.</p>
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<p>When I asked her about her beliefs now, she identified “god as the manifestation of love in the universe”, not a particularly canonical view, especially since she admitted to feeling like a heretic since she stopped believing in the virgin birth and the divinity of Jesus.</p>
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<p>I left our meeting feeling like I was on the tip of an iceberg. It seems to me now that the process of completing a degree in theology is directly related to changes in belief and for at least a percentage of people, loss of faith.</p>
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<p>So where do we go from here? Without a doubt, religion has played an important part in the human story. It once provided answers to questions about the world we live in and purported to reveal the meaning of life. As science ebbs ever closer to answering the crucial facts of existence, believers will continue to be challenged to let go of the ramblings of a bygone era.</p>
<p>(<strong><a href="http://www.humanistperspectives.org/issue178/dunphy.html">source</a></strong>)</p>
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<link>http://alysonmiers.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/thats-how-i-feel-too-except-im-not-like-that/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[I have finally read the study by Dan Dennett and Linda LaScola on Protestant clergy who don&#8217;t]]></description>
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<link>http://danbraganca.com/2010/03/18/trapped-in-the-confessional/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dan Braganca</dc:creator>
<guid>http://danbraganca.com/2010/03/18/trapped-in-the-confessional/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Dan Dennett and Linda LaScola release their study on &#8220;skeptical&#8221; clergy. Here&#8217;s De]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Dan Dennett and Linda LaScola release their study on &#8220;skeptical&#8221; clergy. Here&#8217;s Dennett in the </span></span><i><a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/daniel_c_dennett/2010/03/skeptical_clergy_a_silent_majority.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Washington Post</span></span></a></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">.&#160;</span></span><br />
<blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration:none;"><a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/Non-Believing-Clergy.pdf"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Our report</span></span></a></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">&#160;tells the different&#8211;and moving&#8211;stories of five good people who find themselves caught in a trap that only someone intent on doing good could fall into, a trap that nobody invented but that subtly and ingeniously blocks the exits.</span></span></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">He expressed more about his views on God after the interviews, commenting on an article he&#160;emailed that was written by atheist author Sam Harris.&#160; (“10 Myths—and 10 Truths—About&#160;Atheism” December 24, 2006. &#160; The Los Angeles Times.)&#160; He felt that he’d been “educated and&#160;sensitized” by the article, saying, “If not believing in a supernatural, theistic god is what&#160;distinguishes an atheist, then I am one too.”&#160; But he also said, “I don’t consider myself an&#160;atheist” and, “I am not willing to abandon the symbol ‘God’ in my understanding of the human&#160;and the universe.” &#160;</span></span></p></blockquote>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Rebecca Goldstein </span></span><a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/rebecca_goldstein/2010/03/a_dilemma_worthy_of_literature.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">thinks</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"> that the ministers&#8217; worries might be a bit overblown.</span></span></div>
<blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">All of the ministers interviewed here sincerely believe&#8211;I trust their sincerity&#8211;that speaking the truth as they have come to know it would cause distress, not only for their families but their parishioners. I do think they may be exaggerating the distress of their congregants (their family is another matter). Those whose faith will be tried by the spectacle of a man of faith renouncing his faith will be, even on these pastors&#8217; accounting, taking a step toward the truth, surely a good thing. And those parishioners&#8211;the great majority, I should think&#8211;whose faith will be left untouched will write off the wayward former clergyman as a kook, congratulating themselves on having ferreted him out as they listen to his replacement sincerely sermonizing. We all tend to think we are more irreplaceable than we really are.</span></span></p></blockquote>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Here&#8217;s my </span></span><a href="http://renaissanceroundtablegroup.blogspot.com/2010/01/great-american-taboo-democracy-is.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">previous post</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"> linking Dennett&#8217;s speech on the topic. &#160;</span></span></div>
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