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Martin Siber in the MI.29 transcribed and translated

talhoffer — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:42:56 +0000

The Zedel of Martin Siber is found in at least three surviving manuscripts. The MI29, Salzburg, the E. E.1939.65.341, Glasgow, and the MS Var.82, Rostock. The latter belonging to Joachim Meyer. I transcribed the Zedel from all three manuscripts.

MI.29, Salzburg, 1491
E.1939.65.341, Glasgow, 1508
Ms Var. 82 Rostock, 1570

This is the transcription and translation of the MI.29.

Transcription

MI29 1r
Item dye hernach geschriebenn nüwe zettell
hat gemacht vnd gesetz meinster mertin
Siber vnd ist ein [st]uck auß mangerley meinster ge=
fechtenn vnd ist geteiltt vnd gesetz In sechs geng
Vnd in der zittell ist der ochß vnd der pflug vnd
scheyttell hauw nicht also als in der ersten zettell
des puchs Sunder eyn[e] ander vß legung Nu hebt
sich an dy vor rede vnd lere der zettell dar noch
die sechß genng [etc]

Wer ere will erwerbenn vor furstenn
vnd vor herenn Im vechtenn mit dem
Swertt dz ist gutt vnd gerecht der volge mÿ=
ner lere der gesiget ymermere dy sechß genng
halt in hu[o]tt die sintt gar prißlich gutt in
den woll begriffen ist vil manges gutt[es] mein=
sters list auß Vngern Behem Ytalia auß
Franckrich Engellant vnd almania auß
rewßen Prewßen Gretia Hollant Profant
vnd Swevia In den soltu tretten linck
der verfurüng do by gedennck In stichenn
starg dring so mag dir wol geling Sichstus
venster offen stan Si hinein gee dar von
schlag oder stich schnell So magstu hartt
gevell in der arbeÿtt vmb tritt daß ege=
vertt mach mitt Wiltu sie me hebenn
an ein ein starcken müstu han Recht ver=
nüfft ist auch gutt von großem zornn
1v
Dich behutt zu sollicher versatzung yn den pring
dar durch dir mag wol geling In allem dinem
vechten biß behende dy vor lere hat ein ende [etc]

Der erst gangck
Snell dy swech zum rechten
Durch wind im vechtenn
Den schneller do mit mach
Zu beyden sitenn zwiffach
Seins schilt starck verwindt
Den bogenn stos schlag geswinde
In aller arbeit vmb tritt
Den rechtenn bogenn stos mitt

Der ander ganck
Krumb in dy sterck
Durch wind mit merck
Wind vberlauff / verwappen ortt vnd knouff
Stich im zu dem gesichtt
Des crutz arbeitt mit vichtt
Des verfurtenn knouffs das soltu gedenckenn
auff din haubt machstu yn krenckenn In
aller arbeitt vmb tritt dz egevertt mach mitt
2r
Der tritt ganck
Schil wz von tag kumpt durch zwirch
gein nit krumpt dar in schauw sin sach
den haw schiller mit mach nyms ab gar behende droe
den hauw wider in den schiltt ym starck verdring
mit vberlouff in bezwing in der sterck siner
klingenn In aller arbeitt vmb tritt dz egevertt
mach mitt

Der virdt ganck
Den ochßenn durch stoß
Mitt zwienn schrittenn groß
Windt vnd wider windt
Den scheitteller hauw mach geschwindt
windt / den treffer bald schlag in den b{a}uch vnd
vff den nack In aller arbeitt vmb tritt daß
egevertt mach mitt [etc]

Der funfft ganck
Durch stich den langenn ortt
Zuck wider stich denn mortt
Den plintt hauw laß prellenn
So magtu gen wol wellenn
2v
Heng wider also baldt
Hinder tritt wider schnall
Vff denn kopff in den b{a}uch
So machstu auß im ein rechtenn gauch
In aller arbeitt vmb tritt
Das egevertt mach mitt

Der sechst ganck
Vom tag lang durch var
Mit verwindenn dich bewar
Durch zwirch ym gar baldt
Den plyntt hauw wider schnall
Den ortt hauw in sein brust
Nach allem deim verlust
In aller arbeitt vmb tritt
Daß egevertt mach mitt

Finis c[ausa]e [etc]

Translation to modern German

MI29 1r
Also die hiernach geschriebenen neuen Zettel
hat gemacht und geschrieben meister Martin
Sieber und es ist ein Stück aus mancherlei Meister Ge-
fechten und ist aufgeteilt in sechs Gänge.
Und in den Versen ist der Ochs und der Pflug, und
der Scheitelhau nicht wie in den ersten Merkversen des Buchs,
{zu verstehen} sondern in einer anderen Auslegung. Nun beginnt
die Vorrede und die Lehre der Merkverse danach die
sechs Gänge.

Wer Ehre will erwerben vor Fürsten
und vor Herren im Fechten mit dem
Schwert, {bei allem} was gut und recht ist, wer folgt
meiner Lehre, der siegt immer wieder. Die sechs Gäng
halte im Bewußtsein, die sind hochgepriesen gut. In
denen sind enthalten jede Menge Know-How guter Meisters
aus Ungarn, Böhmen, Italien, aus
Frankreich, England und Deutschland, aus
Rußland, Preussen, Griechenland, Holland, Provence
und Schweden. In denen sollst du links {vor}treten,
dabei der Verführung gedenken. In den Stichen
stark vordringen, so mag es dir gut gelingen. Siehst
du das Fenster offen stehen, siehe hinein, gehe davon
{weg}, schlag oder stich, so magst du hart
{auf ihn} fallen. In der Arbeit trete seitwärts (umher),
in dem Gefecht (in der Bindung) mache mit. Willst du sie beginnen, einen starken Mut musst du haben. Rechte
Vernunft ist auch gut, vor großem Zorn
1v
dich behüte. Zu solcher Versatzung in den bringe
dadurch dir mag dir wohl gelingen. In allen deinem
Fechten sei behände, die allgemeine Lehre hat nun ein Ende.

Der erste Gang
Schnelle die Schwäche zur rechten Seite
Durch winde im Fechten
Den Schneller damit mache
Zu beiden Seiten zweifach
Sein Schilt (Ricasso) stark verwinde
Den Bogen stoße, schlage geschwinde
In aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts
den rechten Bogen stoße auch

Der andere Gang
Krumb in die Stäke
Durchwinde damit merke
Winde, überlaufe / verwebe Ort und Knauf
Stich ihm zum Gesicht
Des Kreuzes Arbeit fechte damit,
des verführten Knaufs, daran sollst du denken
Auf deinem Haupt machst du ihn schwach, In
aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts, das Gefecht mache mit
2r
Der dritte Gang
Schiel, was vom Tag kommt, durch zwerche
gehe hin nicht krump, darin beschaue seine Sache
den Schillerhau mit mach, nimm es ab gar behände, drohe
den haue wieder in den schilt ihm, stark verdränge
mit Überlaufen ihn bezwinge, in der stärke seiner
klingen, in aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts, das Gefecht
mache mit.

Der vierte Gang
Den Ochsen durchstoße
Mit zwei schritten große
Winde und wieder winde
Den Scheitelhau mache geschwind
winde / den Treffer bald schlag in den bauch und
auf den Nacken. In aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts, das
Gefecht mache mit usw.

Der fünfte Gang
Durchstich den langen Ort
Zuck wieder stich den Mord
Den Blindhau lass prellen
So magst du wohl gehen wollen
2v
Hänge wieder also bald
Hntertritt wieder schnell
Auf den Kopf in den Bauch
So machst du aus ihm ein rechten Narr
In aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts,
das Gefecht mache mit

Der sechst Gang
Vom Tag lang durchfahr
Mit verwinden dich bewahr
Durchzwerche ihm {seine Aktion} gar bald
Den Blindhau wieder schnell
Den Orthau in sein Brust
Nach allem deinem Verlust
In aller Arbeit tritt seitwärts,
das Gefecht mache mit

Ende der Sache usw.

Translation to modern English

MI29 1r
The hereafter written new markverses
had been made and written by Martin
Siber, and it is a piece from various masters
plays and is divided in six plays
And in the verses are the Ox and the Plow and
Parting Strike, not {to understand} as in the first verses
of the book, but in another interpretation. Now begins
the foreword and lore of the markverses, thereafter
the six plays.

Who will earn honor in front of lords
and masters in fighting with the
sword, {by all} that is good and rightly, who follows my
lore, wins evermore, the six plays well
hold in regard, they are highly praised good, in
them well included is many a good master’s
trick (know-how) from Hungary, Bohemia, Italy, from
France, England, and Germany, from
Russia, Prussia, Greece, Holland, Provence,
and Swabia. In them you should step left
consider to seduce with it, in thrusts
strong press, so it may work out for you. If you see
a window open, look inside, leave it and
strike or thrust fast. So you may toughly
fall {on him}. In the working step slantwise, take
part in the engagement. If you want to begin them
it a strong {courage} you must have. Proper prudence
is also good, of great rage

1v
you beware. To such parrying bring him
by this you may succeed. In all your
fighting be nimble, the common lore has an end.

The first play
Spring the weak to the right
Wind through on engagement
That is how to do the Spring Strike
To both sides two times
By winding engage his ricasso strongly
The Fiddlestick jab, hit fast
In all your work step slantwise
the Fiddlestick on the right jab too

The other play
Crook into the strong
Notice to wind through with it
Wind run over / interweave point and pommel
Thrust him to the face
With the crossbar’s work fights
the misleading pommel as you should remember
On your head you make him weak. In all
work step slantwise, take part in the engagement
2r
The third play
Squint what comes from the roof, cross through
step in not crook, in it behold his case
The Shoulder Strike do with, take it of nimbly
strike again him in the shield, strongly push away
with Running over overcome him in the strong of his
blade. In all your work step slantwise, take part in
the engagement.

The fourth play
The Ox thrust through
with two great steps
Wind and counter wind
The Parting Strike do nimbly,
wind / the Hitting Strike directly in the belly and
on the neck. In all your work step slantwise, take part in
the engagement etc.

The fifth play
Thrust trough the Long Point
Twitch counter the Murder Strike
The Blinding Strike let bounce
So you may well want to step
2v
Hang to counter very quick
Step behind {him} again fast
On the head and in the belly
So you make a fool of him
In all your work step slantwise,
take part in the engagement

The sixth play
From the roof traverse long
With twisting save yourself
Cross through him {his action} very quick
The Blinding Strike again fast
The Point Strike in his breast
After all that your lost
In all your work step slantwise,
take part in the engagement

End of the thing.

Note: This is a not proofread, uncorrected version. My first draft. If you have any recommendations, corrections, or annotations that will improve the content on this page, please help me by commenting.

Remarks: the translation of “Zucken” to “twitching” is not exactly matching. It is a small backward or forward movement with the blade. There is no perfect translation to that word. On one hand it means “withdrawing” the blade a bit, on the other hand it means to threaten with the weapon.

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Explanation of the verses in the Fechtbuch MI29 on Page 3r

talhoffer — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:17:18 +0000

In this article I explain the markverses found in the manuscript MI29 in Salzburg on page 3r. You finde the transcription and translation in this blog. Transcription and translation of the verses in the Fechtbuch MI29 on page 3r.

01 Ober hauw ist für stich	01 Strike from above is for the thrust Every strike from above should be followed by a thrust. This very common for the strikes coming from the right shoulder in every sword and from the left shoulder in the Longsword (two hands on the handle). The thrust is produced by shooting (Einschießen), winding (Winden), overthrowing (Stürzen), or Mutation (Mutieren).
02 Vnter hauw schlecht bricht	02 Strike from below [??] breaks This sentence has more than one possible meaning, depending first on the translation of the word “schlecht” that developed a change of meaning itself through the centuries from “simple” or “plain” to “bad” or “evil”; and to make things even more complicated “schlecht” was a common way to write “schlägt” (striking) in the manuscripts. The implications of this are:[plainly] The Oberhau with the thrust breaks the Unterhau as it is documented in the manuscripts e.g. by the Schielhau.[bad] The Unterhau is bad for breaking the Oberhau because the head is exposed for e.g. the Scheitelhau.[strikes] Who is doing the Unterhau is breaking the Oberhau if it is done with the complete body power as it is documented too. So the meaning of that line is obscure for us and cannot be resolved. In my translation I decided to use “simple”
03 Mittel hauw in die weytte	03 Strike from the middle in the wideness The strike from the middle is often done at exact shoulder height and has the Langort (long point) with long extended arms not like the other basic strikes in which the arms are at least slightly bend to adjust the angle of the blade for cutting and protecting in the same move. So the Middle Strike has the longest reach because of the position of the shoulders and of the extended arms. In theory you can cut with the Middelhau and are missed with an Unterhau, but I would not put my life on that little distance in reach.
04 Nu lug was d{a}z bed{e}ute	04 Now look, what that implies What it is told above are the basic rules of the three directions of every strike. Interesting to note, that the strikes that follows exactly the vertical line from above and below are not mentioned here as they usually are by defining or naming their guards.
05 Im wechsell hauw such die geuche	05 In the Changing Strike search the Mouth The translation of the word “geuche” is difficult. It could be that it is the Middle High German “geuch/ gouch/ gäuch” for a folly. This may mean that you should try to “effen” to outsmart him with the Changing Strike. But this is not what the Changing Strike is known for. Another possible translation is the “Geusch/ Gusch/ Gosche” a dialect expression for the mouth. And as the target of the Changing Strike is the head, this seems to be the more feasible translation. So in the Changing Strike you should not aim for a lower opening but for the head, because otherwise you would expose your head to the opponent.
06 Noch der versatzung spee	06 Look out for the displacement You do not have to look out for the displacement if your strike or thrust is displaced already and your blade is in the binding. So this line reminds you to look out if the opponent is aiming at your sword and not at you or if he is just raising his weapon to protect himself. If that is the case, you are not in direct danger and you can do whatever you want.
07 Sturtz hauw dar in du winde	07 Overthrow Strike in which you wind The Overthrow Strike works as best if the weapon is turned at the edge axis and this is the same with Winding. If this is done, it is more than recommendable to “unwind” again.
08 Wiltu Im d[a]z antlütz ploß finden	08 Do you want to find the face unprotected (bare) And by “unwinding” you are able to get down to the face following the same principles that are described in the Liechtenauer verses “Scheitler mit seiner Kehr” – “Parting Strike with it’s reversal”.
09 So auß dem scheittler	09 So from the Parting Strike And here it is the the “DEr scheitelere – deyn antlitz ist ym gefere / Mit seinem karen – der broste vaste gewaren“.
10 Schlag die kurtz schnid dar	10 strike with the short edge now Bring the Overthrow Strike out of the Parting Strike.
11 Im vnter sturtz hauw verkere	11 In the lower Overthrow Strike reverse The Overthrow Strike from below is a rare thing in the manuals and you find im in the Talhoffer books. To reverse the arms or hands you start with a strike from below from the right side with the long edge toward your opponent and the short edge to the ground. Just before or at the contact by a displacement you reverse your hands and cut and thrust with the short edge looking up.
12 Dar In sich vnd lere	12 Into itself and learn This is to train very often to present the lower Overthrow Strike powerful enough.
13 Im yssen {p}ort nym war	13 In the Iron Gate perceive It is expected that the Iron Gate will end in a binding. So in the binding you should perceive and appraise the situation.
14 Mit dem ort vff far	14 With the point rise up If you rise up with the point from a binding in the Iron Gate the binding will change so that the feeble/weak of the opponents sword will be at the strength of yours.
15 Bringst auch moll Ins einhorn dar	15 bring it sometimes to the Unicorn That is what you have to do sometimes to avoid to be stabbed. Do not forget the “Hend drücken”.
16 Din rosen Im redlin	16 The roses in the (small) wheel As Joachim Meyer states: get through the roses in a circle to circumvent the displacement.
17 Zuck die treffen gen gute[n] sin	17 Twitch the hits (contacts) gives good sense Well known from the Liechtenauer books. If you sword is just about to make a contact with his blade or his body (where you do not think it will do much harm) twitch back and attack another opening. Your opponent tries to protect his opening and by trying it, he will open another.
18 Schilt hauw mit trifft	18 Shield Strike scores with it The Shield Strike is probably better known as the “Schielhau” translated by me as the Squint Strike. But indeed the name Shield Strike is easier to understand because by using the Shield Strike to break i.e. a strike from below or a thrust in the Long Point you can shield yourself and score in the same movement.
19 Flygell{hauw} oren gift	19 Wing Strike is poison to the ears The Wing Strike is a form of the well known Zwerchhau (Cross Strike) that is named as the “Prellhauw” by Joachim Meyer.
20 Wecker will ston	20 Waking Strike wants to stay This has nothing to do with the footwork. Footwork is to maintain the correct distance and relative position, so you always have to move or not. In the Waking Strike you create a binding and you keep it.
21 Triben strichen wil gan[n]	21 Chasing, Sweeping will go In the Chasing and in the Sweeping you traverse the engagement and the sword does not stay in the binding.
22 E komen noch reissen ist der sytt	22 Earlier coming, Thereafter Riding is custom If he is in the „Vor” and faster than you, then do Thereafter Riding, ride in the shadow of his strike to find the opening.
23 Schnellen vberlouff vnd die schnidtt	23 Schnellen, Running Over and the cuts The verse contains three different techniques and it seems that the author recognized that there is not enough space left on the page. This is the last horizontal line on the page. The rest of the poem is vertically written at the side. Schnellen and Zeckruhr are fast and mostly not lethal ways to draw blood or to provoke a displacement (which is the victim of Zucken). Running Over is based on the principle that the blade lying over the other has the longer reach because it has the smaller angle to the horizontal longest range. The cuts are delivered out of a binding and are part of the so called Wounder.
24 Daß ist ein gemeyne lere	24 That is the fundamental lore The lore is for all kind of sword like objects the basic stuff you should know.
25 Dar an dich kere	25 To this you turn No explanation needed.
26 Daß thuntt w{e]yssen	26 That is done by the wise This could be translated as well with “That do they know”.
27 Dy kunst kündent pr{e}yssen	27 Who praise announcing the art The ones who survived could still praise this lore.

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Transcription and translation of the (Talhoffer) verses in the Fechtbuch MI29 on Page 3r

talhoffer — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:00:31 +0000

The following markverses are part of the collection of fencing treatises that are found in the manuscript MI29 in Salzburg and are written on page 3r. These had been brought in that book probably by a person called Hans von Speyer in the end of the 15th century (1491). The lines are partly identical with the verses of Hans Talhoffer in his Thott 290 2° Manuscript created decades earlier. If you would like to compare the translation and transcription have a look at the Wiktenauer. You find a transcription of the complete book from Dierk Hagedorn at Hammaborg.

For an explanation of the verses, see this article: Explanation of the verses in the Fechtbuch MI29 on Page 3r

Transkription

01 Ober hauw ist für stich
02 Vnter hauw schlecht bricht
03 Mittel hauw in die weytte
04 Nu lug was d{a}z bed{e}ute
05 Im wechsell hauw such die geuche
06 Noch der versatzung spee
07 Sturtz hauw dar in du winde
08 Wiltu Im d[a]z antlütz ploß finden
09 So auß dem scheittler
10 Schlag die kurtz schnid dar
11 Im vnter sturtz hauw verkere
12 Dar In sich vnd lere
13 Im yssen {p}ort nym war
14 Mit dem ort vff far
15 Bringst auch moll Ins einhorn dar
16 Din rosen Im redlin
17 Zuck die treffen gen gute[n] sin
18 Schilt hauw mit trifft
19 Flygell{hauw} oren gift
20 Wecker will ston
21 Triben strichen wil gan[n]
22 E komen noch reissen ist der sytt
23 Schnellen vberlouff vnd die schnidtt
24 Daß ist ein gemeyne lere
25 Dar an dich kere
26 Daß thuntt w{e]yssen
27 Dy kunst kündent pr{e}yssen

Translation in modern German

01 Oberhau ist für den Stich
02 Unterhau einfach bricht
03 Mittelhau in die Weite
04 Nun schau, was das bedeute
05 Im Wechselhau such die Gosche (Mund)
06 Nach der Versatzung spähe
07 Sturzhau darin du winde
08 Willstu ihm das Anlitz bloß finden
09 So aus dem Scheitler
10 Schlag die Kurze Schneide dar
11 Im unteren Sturzhau verkehre
12 Darin in sich und lerne
13 Im Eisenport nimm wahr
14 Mit dem Ort auffahr
15 Bringst auch mal ins Einhorn dar
16 Die Rosem im Rädlin
17 Zucken die Treffen geben guten Sinn
18 Schildhau (Schielhau) mit trifft
19 Flügelhau der Ohren Gift
20 Wecker will stehen
21 Treiben, Streichen will gehen
22 Eher kommen nachreisen ist die Sitte
23 Schnellen, Überlaufen und die Schnitte
24 Das ist eine gemeine Lehre
25 Daran dich kehre (halte)
26 Das tun die Weisen
27 Die die Kunst kündend preisen

Translation in modern English

01 Strike from above is for the thrust
02 Strike from below [plainly] breaks
03 Strike from the middle in the wideness
04 Now look, what that implies
05 In the Changing Strike search the Mouth
06 Look out for the displacement
07 Overthrow Strike in which you wind
08 Do you want to find the face unprotected (bare)
09 So from the Parting Strike
10 strike with the short edge now
11 In the lower Overthrow Strike reverse
12 Into itself and learn
13 In the Iron Gate perceive
14 With the point rise up
15 bring it sometimes to the Unicorn
16 The roses in the (small) wheel
17 Twitch the hits (contacts) gives good sense
18 Shield Strike scores with it
19 Wing Strike is poison to the ears
20 Waking Strike wants to stay
21 Chasing, Sweeping will go
22 Earlier coming, Thereafter Riding is custom
23 Schnellen, Running over and the cuts
24 That is the fundamental lore
25 To this you turn
26 That is done by the wise
27 Who praise announcing the art
.

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Cuba se prepara para realizar exercícios militares

chacal2011 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:50:42 +0000

Mi-29 cubano em formação

Cuba se prepara para realizar exercícios militares
Governo diz que manobras visam preparar a ilha para eventual ‘ataque do inimigo’.

Da BBC – Via: Meteorito

As Forças Armadas cubanas iniciam nesta quinta-feira (26) o primeiro de três dias de exercícios militares que visam a preparação para um eventual ataque dos Estados Unidos.

O exercício, chamado Bastion 2009, será o primeiro desde que Raúl Castro assumiu a Presidência, em fevereiro de 2008. O mais recente havia sido realizado em 2004, quando Fidel Castro ainda liderava o país.

Mig-21 cubano

Segundo o jornal oficial do partido comunista, Granma, o objetivo das manobras é “fortalecer a preparação da ilha para enfrentar qualquer possível agressão do inimigo”.

De acordo com o correspondente da BBC em Havana Michael Voss, cerca de 1 milhão de efetivos devem participar do exercício – um sinal de que Washington não deve subestimar a capacidade de defesa de Cuba.

Foto de um Mig-23 cubano em voo

De acordo com o general de divisão Leonardo Andollo, as manobras são uma necessidade de primeira ordem, dada “a situação política e militar que agora define as relações entre Cuba e o Império”.

As autoridades cubanas têm mantido um estado de alerta desde a invasão frustrada da Baía dos Porcos em 1961 por cubanos exilados treinados pela CIA.

Mig-23 constitui o caça principal sobre o qual se assenta a defesa Aérea cubana

Recentemente, o presidente dos Estados Unidos, Barack Obama, declarou publicamente que o país não tem intenção de usar a força militar contra Cuba.

fonte:Hangar do Vinna