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<title><![CDATA[A Teacher Without A Classroom]]></title>
<link>http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/a-teacher-without-a-classroom/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Lala</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[This is Efren Penaflorida. I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve heard of him but he&#8217;s huge news ]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/effren-large.jpg"><img src="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/effren-large.jpg?w=300" alt="" title="effren-large" width="300" height="225" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1725" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve heard of him but he&#8217;s huge news around here these days.</p>
<p>Efren is a teacher. A teacher without a classroom. Or to be more precise, he&#8217;s a teacher with (a classroom in) a pushcart.</p>
<p><a href="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/efren.jpg"><img src="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/efren.jpg" alt="" title="efren" width="292" height="219" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1727" /></a></p>
<p>He goes around Manila&#8217;s slums teaching kids wherever they&#8217;ll sit still and listen &#8211; dump sites, cemeteries, under busy overpasses.</p>
<p>You see, Efren was once a kid like his students. He lived in a slum area and was harassed by gang members. But like many of the heroes we talk about, he refused to let his circumstance be his fate. He was determined to get an education and make the best of his life.</p>
<p>At 16, Efren started teaching high risk kids in poor urban areas how to read and write. He also taught them Math and English. </p>
<p>That was 12 years ago. Now, at 28, Efren and his group known as the <a href="http://dynamicteencompany.org/">Dynamic Teen Company </a>have changed the lives of over 1,500 kids. They have also expanded with their feeding and first aid programs, treating scabies and wounds. Today, former drug users and scavengers have become literate under his wing and several are now volunteers who teach or help raise funds.</p>
<p>His approach just makes me think how simple helping others can be. He just went out there and shared. It wasn&#8217;t always easy getting support but he found ways. The group sold recyclable materials. They even staged and performed in their own little concerts to raise funds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud to say, the man the kids call Kuya Ef is now on the world stage. He has been nominated as one of CNN&#8217;s Heroes for 2009. </p>
<p><a href="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/cnn.jpg"><img src="http://kikiandlalaland.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/cnn.jpg" alt="" title="CNN" width="267" height="176" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1736" /></a></p>
<p>In fact, he leaves for LA today to attend the star-studded <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/11/16/cnnheroes.tribute.show/index.html"> CNN Heroes Gala Night</a>.</p>
<p>As a nominee he gets $25,000. If he is voted Hero Of The Year, he will get an additional $100,000.</p>
<p>You can vote for him <a href="http://heroes.cnn.com/confirmvote.aspx?id=06&#38;lang=1">here</a>&#8230; as many times as you like.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[RSM; Homepage - Illegal Immigrant Sanctuary in Rancho Santa Margarita CA 2009?]]></title>
<link>http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/rancho-santa-margarita-home-or-illegal-alien-sanctuary-in-ca-2009/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>centuries1</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[2009 Mayor of RSM, CA Opens City to Irresponsible Corporations Sanctuary for Illegal Immigrants? Una]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><h1 style="text-align:center;">2009 Mayor of RSM, CA</h1>
<h1 style="text-align:center;">Opens City to</h1>
<h1 style="text-align:center;">Irresponsible Corporations</h1>
<h3 style="text-align:center;">Sanctuary for Illegal Immigrants?</h3>
<h3 style="text-align:center;">Unabated Latino Trespassers</h3>
<h3 style="text-align:center;">Threatening Locals</h3>
<p style="text-align:center;">(syndicated article) <a href="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/15mayor.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-155" title="Mayor Thompson RSM CA" src="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/15mayor.jpg" alt="" width="166" height="233" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;">Photo of the Mayor of Rancho Santa Margarita, CA</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/11-copy.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-45" title="rsm, ca,. mayor gary thompson" src="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/11-copy.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="368" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;">Iconic Photo of the Mayor’s City, RSM, CA</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dha5A9vsdk"> Iconic Video of the Mayor’s City, RSM, CA</a></em></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em><span style="font-style:normal;"><a href="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/brersm/">The Whole Story</a></span></em></p>
<h1>Mayor of RSM, CA Shakes Hands</h1>
<h1>with Irresponsible Corporations</h1>
<p><em>-OVERVIEW-</em></p>
<p><strong>BRE Properties</strong> and the <strong>Mayor </strong>of Rancho Santa Margarita’s joint responsibility of protecting the safety and quality of life of it’s local inhabitants seems to be -to them- a moot point. Both simply ignore pointed confrontation by any outraged and terrorized RSM taxpayer.</p>
<p>Case in point, the seemingly under-the-table company <strong>Sam Cast Landscape Services</strong> out of Santa Anna CA., an employer that most would say is a prime candidate for a swift ICE investigation -<em>along with BRE Properties</em>- and to all appearances supports hired personnel that are straight from the <em>devils-highway</em>, (and suspiciously has no website), basically dominates BRE’s southern properties. Why isn’t Mayor Thompson aware of this? Or perhaps he is aware. In what era would one find a reputable company with million-dollar assets in equipment, contracted and/or hired by multi-billion corporations like BRE Properties in RSM CA., that not only abstains from acquiring their own highly visible and/or public website as the first course of action in establishing a business, but maintains virtual invisibility as far as the general public is concerned with near zero internet presence?</p>
<p><em>“We’re literally being invaded by illegal aliens in our neighborhoods. Stay out of our trash cans means stay out of our yards and neighborhood. Neither the city nor BRE Properties respond to our outcry for help”</em> says one RSM local.</p>
<p>It is no wonder that the locals are rising up in a fury. The above photo and video are just the tip of the iceberg relating to the monumental library of ammunition (photos and HD videos) taken by locals in RSM, who are organizing at a record pace to take BRE Properties and the Mayor of RSM to the mat with proof in hand.</p>
<p>Citizens of Rancho Santa Margarita pay a 67% higher cost of living than the national average, hoping to raise their families in a city that was once seen as family friendly and safe, offering a higher quality of life for their buck, but no more. They’re finding that the slum elements of bad neighborhoods are coming to them, literally to their front door unabated by the powers that be. <em>“RSM locals want their 67% higher cost of living returned,”</em> feeling with little doubt that they’ve been defrauded by the city of RSM and by housing corp.s like BRE Properties, explains a BRE tenant.</p>
<p>Video documentation by highly concerned members of the community shows without a doubt that not only do BRE and other properties refuse to secure their southern CA properties against trespassing prowlers and/or scavenging by unknowns cruising their properties, they encourage it by blatantly allowing it to occur daily. Both the City of RSM and BRE point the finger at each other, stating that it’s not their responsibility when handling the unending complaints.</p>
<p>Still, the mayor’s office refuses to slap BRE with a junction to clean up or pay restitution and get out. Even worse, his office refuses to have trespassing city ordinances and/or state laws (code 602) seriously enforced, according to those living in RSM. One vocal inhabitant says, <em>“RSM is an open hunting ground for trespassing prowlers of would-be crimes of convenience, ever-threatening lawless illegal aliens, rapists, thieves, terrorists and murderers.” “Derelicts come and go as they please, looking as though they drove all the way from Compton or through the devils-highway and we have hundreds of hours of video to prove it,” </em>reports a exasperated mother.</p>
<p>Those enduring this untenable situation, currently trapped in RSM CA. and places like BRE Properties via tainted contractual agreements (<em>victims of facts not disclosed prior, that relate to serious personal and property safety issues)</em>, in most part are unprotected with little to no recourse to circumvent prowling trespassers in their front yards, streets, and neighborhoods. Things are quickly coming to a head, with many flocking to their attorneys for plan of action.</p>
<p>Angry RSM citizens gather to form a unique neighborhood-watch linking multiple communities in the area as one massive voice. Feeling swindled, they have some satisfaction, seeing their ever-increasingly motto rapidly proliferate throughout RSM comunities and So-Cal faster than a California wildfire, and it&#8217;s burning hot. <em>“Who needs trespassing ordinances after the fact except victims of crime, newspapers, insurance companies, lawyers, mortuaries and funeral-homes,</em>” chants one determined RSM victim!</p>
<p>This is not to say that those captured by near fraudulent contracts in So-Cal&#8217;s city of RSM don’t currently see themselves as victims of crime, having their homes violated by unknown and unabated frightening trespassers, as the current powers that be simply look the other way.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;If I weren&#8217;t stuck in this contract I&#8217;d leave immediately, I don&#8217;t care how nice the place is. I&#8217;m so concerned about the safety of my family from the RAZA-like scavenger&#8217;s daily intimidating gauntlet that my wife has to friggin get through in the wee early morning hours to get to her car, that I may pay the penalty and move anyway, and settle with all responsible parties later in court!&#8221; </em>voices one fed-up RSM resident.</p>
<p>Locals are calling for Mayor Thompson head, relatively speaking. The rumor is that the very least that&#8217;s planed, taking matters into their own hands, is a collective mass exodus if change is not forthcoming very soon. Can you blame them?</p>
<p><strong><em>It’s almost like home</em></strong></p>
<p>It’s safe to say that no one would feel at home with that warm cozy and secure feeling of being snuggled up with your family while clamorous, scary, unknown strangers are prowling around just under your balcony at all hours, no matter how nice the neighborhood or home may be.</p>
<p>Mayor Gary Thompson is amongst the powerfully influential in southern California, while President  Constance “Connie” Moore is one of the most financially influential individuals in California, bringing in a salary of over two million annually with BRE Properties.</p>
<p>One might think that between the two of them, via their mutually advantageous business union, that they could figure out how to not only protect their business investments in Rancho Santa Margarita, but more importantly how to best protect the safety and quality of life of the people living there.</p>
<p><em>One might also ask why the people in RSM are paying them a 67% higher cost of living than the national average and for what, for a place that’s almost safe or almost like home? </em></p>
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<h2><em>Read…</em><a href="http://dumpsterdivingrties.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/brersm/"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="text-decoration:none;"><em><span style="color:#ff00ff;">The Whole Story</span></em></span></span></a></h2>
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<title><![CDATA[Space Vultures]]></title>
<link>http://myabishai.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/space-vultures/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tony Franklin</dc:creator>
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<title><![CDATA[What is Oxidative Stress?]]></title>
<link>http://candydye.com/2009/11/01/what-is-oxidative-stress/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>candydye</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Oxidative stress! Free Radicals! Antioxidants!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;These are words that we increasin]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Oxidative stress! Free Radicals! Antioxidants!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;These are words that we increasingly hear or read, but what do they mean???   What do they have to do with our health as we age?  I know that Oxidative Stress in NOT good, Free Radicals are NOT hippies, and Antioxidants prevent diseases! After that, it gets a bit confusing, so here is the simple version for you!<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nedvizzini/2884519588/"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-65" title="Ned Vizzini - Mitochondria" src="http://candydye.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/ned-vizzini-mitochondria.jpg" alt="Ned Vizzini - Mitochondria" width="100" height="86" /></a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start off with a basic understanding of  what Oxygen does in our body first.  We need Oxygen to live!  After we breathe it into our lungs, it travels through our bloodstream to every cell in our body.  Inside our cells, it fuels something called the Mitochondria, also known as the powerhouse of the cell.  Simply put, the Mitochondria is like an engine, and Oxygen the fuel.  We need to give the Mitochondria enough fuel or Oxygen to make energy for our cells to work properly.  Simple enough?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re doing great, let&#8217;s keep going!  There is a byproduct of this Oxygen-to- energy pr<a title="Ford Mustang @ Classic Car Museum Hakodate, Japan by mambo1935" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mambo1935/1458601150/"><img class="alignleft" style="border:0;" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1012/1458601150_c43e634a9e_t.jpg" border="0" alt="Ford Mustang @ Classic Car Museum Hakodate, Japan by mambo1935" width="108" height="60" /></a>ocess that is similar to a car engine creating exhaust.  In our body&#8217;s cells the &#8221;exhaust&#8221; that is produced, when oxygen is converted to energy, is called &#8221;Free Radicals&#8221;.  The colorful fruits and vegetables we eat, and yummy dark chocolate we have for dessert, contain Antioxidants, substances that hunt for Free Radicals to scavenge or &#8220;eat for  dinner&#8221;!    </p>
<p>As we age, our bodies produce more and more Free Radicals, while our intake of Antioxidants can&#8217;t keep up<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/raparker/18907746/"><img class="alignright" title="Exhaust" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/13/18907746_2f157294b8.jpg" alt="" width="123" height="79" /></a> with them.  It&#8217;s like going to a smorgasborg after we have had an open buffet!  When our cells have more Free Radicals, or &#8220;exhaust&#8221;, than Antioxidants, this is known as Oxidative Stress.  We can understand it best as &#8220;exhaust overload&#8221;!</p>
<p>These Free Radicals are highly charged Oxygen molecules that cause damage to our cell&#8217;s DNA/genes, proteins, and fats.  If we experience Oxidative Stress for a long time, our genes in our cells change, or mutate, sending a different message along to the new cells that are formed.  These mutations create the signs of aging we experience on our skin, the stiffness we feel in our bodies, and are also the cause of  many degenerative diseases.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a moment to go over what we have learned!  Oxygen is changed to energy in our cells&#8217; Mitochondria.  Some Oxygen is left over as Free Radicals. Antioxidants scavenge free radicals.  As we age, we create more Free Radicals and don&#8217;t have enough Antioxidants to control them, causing Oxidative Stress and diseases.  We&#8217;ve got it!</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">I&#8217;m already seeing the effects of Oxidative Stress in my skin, and feeling it in my body, and BOY I DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT!!!  Wrinkles&#8230;age spots&#8230;. my face was drooping like a wrinkled, old dog!!!<a title="pugly by auddymick" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/auddymick/2300937013/"><img class="aligncenter" style="border:0;" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2412/2300937013_7a1b252119_t.jpg" border="0" alt="pugly by auddymick" width="100" height="67" /></a>   We know what happens to an apple when it is cut it open and left to sit for a while, right? It turns brown and gets all wrinkly!  What we see are the effects of Oxygen on the apple.  That&#8217;s what Oxidative Stress is doing to us.  Our hormone levels are decreasing, thus slowing down collagen and elastin production, and we get hot flashes.  Our skin becomes thinner and drier, losing its vibrant glow.  Our Mitochondria don&#8217;t work as efficiently, and energy production decreases, making us feel sluggish.  Our genes become damaged over time, shortening our cells&#8217; life and encouraging disease formation.</p>
<p>So what do can we do to slow down this process???  Eating rainbow colored fruits and vegetables and that  &#8220;wonder<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36114627@N03/4035071832/"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-59" title="Choc" src="http://candydye.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/choc.jpg" alt="Choc" width="100" height="72" /></a> food&#8221;, dark chocolate, is a very good start!  It will take a LOT of them to keep up with all the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/todorkamenov/963144837/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-77 alignleft" title="Mmmm, Fruits, by Todor Kamenov" src="http://candydye.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/mmmm-fruits-by-todor-kamenov.jpg?w=300" alt="Mmmm, Fruits, by Todor Kamenov" width="115" height="85" /></a>Free Radicals our bodies make.   But this is only one part of a proactive approach to targeting the causes and symptoms of aging.  Addressing all four core influences of aging, starting with Antioxidants, is essential!!</p>
<p>We also need to include Mitochondrial Energy Activators (to keep the amount of free radicals in check),  Endocrine System Modulators (remember those sluggish hormones?),  and Longevity Gene Modifiers (helping our healthy cells live longer)!</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">It is important to have these nutrients applied directly through our skin care systems, and consumed in a dietary supplement mixture of a variety of Antioxidants and Phytonutrients.  Something NEW that I have found and LOVE is Apriori Beauty&#8217;s Celloxylin Skin Care with a Nutrient Reservoir in each of the five steps, and Lifeloxylin Elixir, containing a bountiful blend of ingredients that nourish, protect and prolong the life of our cells and defies aging!!  Since I started using this internal/external system in June, my wrinkles are better, my visiual clarity has improved, my age spots are disappearing&#8230;and I&#8217;m looking softer, more like a cute little Beagle pup!<a title="Bonnie the Beagle by Ian Main" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianmain/62122054/"><img class="aligncenter" style="border:0;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/62122054_457f5cc72e_t.jpg" border="0" alt="Bonnie the Beagle by Ian Main" width="70" height="100" /></a>  When we add to this performance ingredients that help reduce the visible signs of aging, you&#8217;ve got a systemic, &#8220;whole body&#8221; approach to anti-aging and the Cellular Age Advantage!</p>
<p>Thank you, Candace Keefe, and Apriori Beauty, for your innovations that take us Life Years ahead in our fight against disease and aging!!</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fighting Free Radicals&#8221;,  &#8221;Did You Know?&#8221;,  Apriori Beauty Website <a href="http://www.aprioribeauty.com/FIC/candace/back_office/did_you_know">http://www.aprioribeauty.com/FIC/candace/back_office/did_you_know</a></p>
<p>Harvard Medical School (2006, June 2).  Free Radical Cell Death Switch Identified:  Molecular Pathway May Contribute To Age Related Diseases. &#8220;Science Daily&#8221;. Retrieved October 28, 2009, from <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060601220956.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060601220956.htm</a></p>
<p>Oregon State University (2009, September 7). Oxidative Stress Is Underlying Cause Of Huge Numbers of Genetic Mutations, Study Finds. &#8220;Science Daily&#8221;.  Retrieved October 28, 2009, from <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090907162318.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090907162318.htm</a></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Righteous.]]></title>
<link>http://glenjm.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/righteous-2/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>glenjm</dc:creator>
<guid>http://glenjm.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/righteous-2/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Last weekend, I had the absolute pleasure of working on Cory Bowles&#8216; RIGHTEOUS. This was his d]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Last weekend, I had the absolute pleasure of working on<em> Cory Bowles</em>&#8216;<strong> RIGHTEOUS</strong>. This was his directorial follow-up to one of my favourite short flicks of 2008, <strong>THE SCAVENGERS</strong> (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzwPBPQ0oF4" target="_blank">click here to see the trailer for that film)</a>. Both of Bowles&#8217; films are from his production company <a href="http://transfictionfilms.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Transfiction Films</a>.</p>
<p>I was on set for two days in Truro, and they shot another day in Halifax.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really excited for everyone to see this! Everyone on the set was operating on every cylinder possible, I think we may have created something really special.</p>
<p>The film stars <em>Richard Talbot </em>in his first acting role, <em>Kate Macdonald</em>, and myself. The crew was made up of some ridiculously talented people. <em>Jeff Wheaton</em> (assisted by <em>Scott Thorne</em>) conjured up some pretty effing whimsical shots as the Director of Photography. Mr. <em>Zan</em> &#8220;Aikido&#8221; <em>Rosborough</em> &#38; <em>Adam Burke</em> provided excellent audio recording skills. Meanwhile,<em> John Davies </em>provided rugged good looks and pitched everyone on movies all weekend.</p>
<p>Lots of other people worked on the film, and they were all awesome!</p>
<p>Hopefully, some stills will be available sometime in the near future, so you can have a proper preview of Righteous. Until then, here are three behind-the-scenes shots from the shoot. Don&#8217;t you feel special?</p>
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<img class="size-full wp-image-1141 aligncenter" title="r001" src="http://glenjm.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/r001.jpg" alt="r001" width="500" height="357" />Scott Thorne snapped this photo between shots of me cursing at Jeff Wheaton.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1142" title="r002" src="http://glenjm.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/r002.jpg" alt="r002" width="500" height="700" /><br />
Mr. Bowles himself wondering why I&#8217;m standing so close to him&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">I wanted to take a tough photo of Richard Talbot, however, DOP Jeff Wheaton decided it needed a little more clown&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1144" title="r003" src="http://glenjm.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/r003.jpg" alt="r003" width="500" height="700" /></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">That&#8217;s all for now. When there&#8217;s more available, you&#8217;ll see it either on here, or over at <a href="http://transfictionfilms.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Transfiction Films&#8217; blog</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Oh, and PS, unrelated note: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=158976213190" target="_blank">Ghostbusters is playing this Friday at 11:30pm at Empire Park Lane</a>. What better way to ring in Halloween?</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Jumping Jack-al!]]></title>
<link>http://moyawatenga.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/jumping-jack-al/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>moyawatenga</dc:creator>
<guid>http://moyawatenga.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/jumping-jack-al/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[On a recent trip to the Timbavati with a group of guests, I was fortunate to witness and photograph ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p style="text-align:justify;">On a recent trip to the Timbavati with a group of guests, I was fortunate to witness and photograph a very interesting (and entertaining) piece of animal behavior. On our very first afternoon game drive we came across a Black-backed Jackal (<em>Canis mesomelas</em>) who had found what he thought was a free meal. There was a little more to the story and this poor guy ended up working rather hard for his meal!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The reserve management had been running an operation to inoculate the resident Lion (<em>Panthera leo</em>) population against rabies. As part of this exercise they had secured an Impala (<em>Aepyceros melampus</em>) carcass to a branch of a Marula tree. The carcass was secured at a height which would keep the lions interested, without allowing them to completely devour the carcass or drag it away from the open area needed for issuing the dart. Our little friend stumbled upon the remnants of the operation and just couldn&#8217;t resist attempting to feed of the left overs.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The following series of photos shows the little guy jumping from the base of the tree into a knot or knoll before leaping skywards and grabbing hold of the rump of the Impala. Once he had sunken his teeth in there and managed to get a grip of the carcass, he would either shake or allow the momentum from his leap off the tree to rip free a chunk of the meat before returning gracefully (sometimes not so gracefully) to the ground.</p>

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<p style="text-align:justify;">The benefit of the small chunks of meat he was able to rip off was obviously well worth the amount of energy he expended to get to it, as he jumped up the tree over, and over, and over again!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Although not an entirely natural situation, Black-backed Jackal are incredibly well adapted to scavenging and it is not uncommon for them to attempt to grab dangling bits of meat left hanging in trees by leopards (<em>Panthera pardus</em>). All in all, it was a really interesting and entertaining sighting that none who were present will forget any time soon!</p>
<h2 style="text-align:justify;">A bit more on the Black-backed Jackal</h2>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The Black-backed Jackal is a versatile feeder, and will alter its diet according to availability and the degree of inter-specific competition (competition between different species). It typically feeds on small to medium sized mammals, reptiles, invertebrates and birds, but frequently scavenges on carrion. They will also feed on berries and even some plants.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The Black-backed Jackal has a 2-month gestation period. Each litter consists of 3-6 pups, each of which weighs 200&#8211;250 grams at birth. At 8 months,the pups are old enough to leave their parents and establish territories of their own. However, a young jackal will often return to the territory to help the parents raise another litter. In these cases, the next litter is much more likely to survive. Like several jackal species, the Black-backed Jackal is typically monogamous.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Life After Death]]></title>
<link>http://rosemarywashington.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/life-after-death/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
<guid>http://rosemarywashington.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/life-after-death/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Grey-headed vulture in flight, Costa Rica (photo 2008) The scavenger vulture, Costa Rica (photo 2008]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div id="attachment_1346" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><img class="size-full wp-image-1346" title="IMG_2506" src="http://rosemarywashington.wordpress.com/files/2009/08/img_2506.jpg" alt="Grey-headed vulture in flight, Costa Rica (photo 2008)" width="480" height="320" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Grey-headed vulture in flight, Costa Rica (photo 2008)</p></div>
<div id="attachment_1347" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 490px"><img class="size-full wp-image-1347" title="IMG_2209" src="http://rosemarywashington.wordpress.com/files/2009/08/img_2209.jpg" alt="The scavenger vulture, Costa Rica (photo 2008)" width="480" height="320" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The scavenger vulture, Costa Rica (photo 2008)</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s most natural to me to feel an aversion to scavenger birds, like vultures, who feed on carrion and death.  I love how Robinson Jeffers&#8217; poem turns this outlook on its heels.</p>
<p><strong>Vulture</strong><br />
by Robinson Jeffers</p>
<p>I had walked since dawn and lay down to rest on a bare hillside<br />
Above the ocean.  I saw through half-shut eyelids a vulture<br />
     wheeling high up in heaven,<br />
And presently it passed again, but lower and nearer, its orbit<br />
     narrowing, I understood then<br />
That I was under inspection.  I lay death-still and heard the flight-feathers<br />
Whistle above me and make their circle and come nearer.<br />
I could see the naked red hood between the great wings<br />
Bear down staring.  I said, &#8220;My dear bird, we are wasting time here.<br />
These old bones will still work; they are not for you.&#8221;  But how<br />
     beautiful he looked, gliding down<br />
On those great sails; how beautiful he looked, veering away in<br />
     the sea-light over the precipice.  I tell you solemnly<br />
That I was sorry to have disappointed him.  To be eaten by that<br />
      beak and become part of him, to share those wings and those eyes &#8211;<br />
What a sublime end of one&#8217;s body, what an enskyment; what a<br />
     life after death.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Do hyenas really laugh?]]></title>
<link>http://mindjourney1962.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/do-hyenas-really-laugh/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>askpari</dc:creator>
<guid>http://mindjourney1962.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/do-hyenas-really-laugh/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Hyena A hyena is a large wild, doglike animal that lives in Africa and Asia. Hyenas known as spotted]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div id="attachment_755" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-755" title="42_bdb7b747cda4f40f7c8ca162fd2b9a1a" src="http://mindjourney1962.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/42_bdb7b747cda4f40f7c8ca162fd2b9a1a.jpg?w=150" alt="Hyena" width="150" height="143" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Hyena</p></div>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A hyena is a large wild, doglike animal that lives in Africa and Asia.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Hyenas known as spotted hyenas are sometimes called “laughing hyenas” because they make sounds that resemble hysterical human laughter.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">But the hyena is not really laughing.  The laughing hyena usually makes it weird, laughing howl only when it is frightened or excited.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Hyena have the reputation of being cowardly animals because they prefer to eat meat already killed by other animals.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">They often follow lions and eat the leftovers of the larger animals’ meals.  They even eat the leftover bones, crushing them with their strong teeth and powerful jaws.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Hyenas are not particular about what they eat.  They are mostly scavengers and will eat any “garbage”  they happen upon.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">For this reason, they are useful as animal “garbage collectors”  and help keep the ground.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Visual source:  <a href="http://www.redorbit.com/modules/reflib/article_images/42_bdb7b747cda4f40f7c8ca162fd2b9a1a.jpg"><span style="color:#000000;">redorbit</span></a></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Scavengers]]></title>
<link>http://comicsworld.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/scavengers/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>boutje</dc:creator>
<guid>http://comicsworld.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/scavengers/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[To download issues 0,2-11 Thanks to Sparkman scavengers]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/282371541/scav.zip.html" target="_blank">scavengers</a></p>
<p><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers00.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers02.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers03.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers04.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers05.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers06.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers07.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers08.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers09.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers10.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/dombo25/comics120/scavengers11.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" /></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Urban Safari]]></title>
<link>http://timothyallen.blogs.bbcearth.com/2009/09/20/urban-safari/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
<guid>http://timothyallen.blogs.bbcearth.com/2009/09/20/urban-safari/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Kenya Sacred ibis take flight Coming to Kenya with the BBC’s natural history unit you’d be forgiven ]]></description>
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<div id="attachment_2570" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><img class="size-full wp-image-2570" title="Pic: Copyright Timothy Allen. IT IS FORBIDDEN TO REPRODUCE THIS IMAGE IN ANY MEDIA WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION. BBC Human Planet" src="http://bbctimothyallen.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/kenya_timothy-allen_1.jpg" alt="Sacred ibis take flight" width="510" height="340" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Sacred ibis take flight</p></div>
<p>Coming to Kenya with the BBC’s natural history unit you’d be forgiven for assuming that I was here to spend a few weeks on safari.  For sure, the BBC’s cameramen and women have had a long and fruitful relationship with Kenya’s amazing wildlife over the years, resulting in some of the most sensational wildlife sequences ever seen on TV, a particular favourite of mine being the awesome spectacle of thousands of wildebeest crossing the Mara river during their yearly migration filmed for <em>Planet Earth</em>.</p>
<p>Not withstanding this age old tradition, we have indeed come here in part to film Kenya’s wildlife, we just aren’t staying in a stilted safari lodge nor whizzing around the plains in an open top four wheel drive.  We’re in Mombasa, and for the last 3 days I’ve been wading through mountains of rubbish in this city’s sprawling waste dump.</p>
<p>On our first morning at the dump we arrived at dawn and I spent the first few minutes clambering over the twilight debris looking for a suitable high vantage point from which to shoot a panorama with the first light from the rising sun.   Atop the largest pile I could see I came across this quiet scene.   I shot a few frames and then climbed down.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2571" title="Pic: Copyright Timothy Allen. IT IS FORBIDDEN TO REPRODUCE THIS IMAGE IN ANY MEDIA WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION. BBC Human Planet" src="http://bbctimothyallen.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/kenya_timothy-allen_2.jpg" alt="Pic: Copyright Timothy Allen. IT IS FORBIDDEN TO REPRODUCE THIS IMAGE IN ANY MEDIA WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION. BBC Human Planet" width="510" height="340" /></p>
<p>I don’t know anything about this boy&#8230; what his name is, or how old he is. I don’t know if he has a family.  The clicking of my camera didn’t wake him.  Sitting here now writing this at a desk in my hotel room I wish I could tell you something about this young soul other than the fact that he is one of quite a number of youngsters who live and work at the dump, days spent sifting through Mombasa’s refuse looking for food and things to sell to middle men for recycling. </p>
<p>Since that first morning here, a steady stream of people have stopped their work to come and talk with us about life on their dump.  Many of them just come to chat, seemingly oblivious to the notion that there is anything that the outside world can do to help them other than continuing with its culture of rampant consumerism.  It&#8217;s a cruel irony, but the reality here is that this is their life and work and it provides them with an income that keeps them alive.  There’s no doubt that the majority of people living here would rather be somewhere else; the sad fact however is that their farewell would inevitably herald the arrival of a replacement in no time at all.  Walking around this waste land, I am reminded once more that mother nature is not prejudiced.  Scavenging at a dump is an environmental niche that she invites all species to inhabit, our own included.  </p>
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<title><![CDATA[City NGOs to join vulture awareness day celebrations]]></title>
<link>http://dhirendra.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/city-ngos-to-join-vulture-awareness-day-celebrations/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>dhirendra08</dc:creator>
<guid>http://dhirendra.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/city-ngos-to-join-vulture-awareness-day-celebrations/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Good morning friends.  Today, everybody is invited to the celebration of Vulture Awareness  Day.  Ci]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p style="text-align:justify;">Good morning friends.  Today, everybody is invited to the celebration of Vulture Awareness  Day.  City NO&#8217;s will join to Vulture Awareness Day celebration.  We should participate all in giving importance to it. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">September 5 will be celebrated as International Vulture Awareness Day (IVAD-09) worldwide. Several NGOs, including some based here plan to celebrate the event by creating awareness about vulture conservation in the region.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">According to Junagadh-based NGO, Mudra Ecological, Cultural and Heritage Ovation Society, several peaks and ranges in Girnar Mountains near Junagadh are considered among the few nesting sites of vultures.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The ambitious ropeway project is also being considered a possible threat towards the conservation of these birds. According to sources, some nature clubs and environmentalists have raised the issue with the Centre, even as public agitation for the early commencement of the ropeway project gathers momentum.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">J Nimish, a member of Mudra society, said: &#8220;We are not opposing the ropeway project, but believe at the same time that vulture conservation should not be sidelined. Both the ropeway project and vulture conservation are equally serious issues. We will approach education institutions and provide them with information about the importance of vultures and their conservation.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Ankit Shukala and Mitesh Dave, other members of the NGO, who favour development of tourism here, echo the same view.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Some nature clubs and environmentalists have expressed doubts that the ropeway project will threaten the vulture habitat and nesting site on Girnar Mountains.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">According to environmentalists, at present, Girnar Mountain houses around 30 vultures.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The bird is considered shy and has a habit of taking shelter in isolated areas far away from human population.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">During the last one decade,vulture population has drastically reduced in the Indian Sub-Continent.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Incidentally, Gujarat Minister of State for Environment and Forest Kiritsinh Rana, had also said in his reply to a question on February 20, 2009 during Question Hour in the Gujarat Assembly, that vulture population in the state has reduced from 2,647 to 1431 in two years from 2005-07.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Gujarat was the first state in the country to ban the use of diclofenac drug, considered to be the prime reason for the disappearance of these scavengers. &#8211; <a href="http://in.news.yahoo.com/48/20090905/804/tnl-city-ngos-to-join-vulture-awareness.html"><span style="color:#000000;">Yahoo</span></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Sibte Husain Bukhari</p>
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<link>http://mrsface.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/freegan-friday-at-the-ivy/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>I had no idea the hipster bar was so congested.  I&#8217;d never been there before.  Still not, in fact.  I was just passing by on my way to what my gentleman friend so lovingly calls, &#8220;The Tortilla Dumpster.&#8221;  That&#8217;s when I fully understood the difference between a hipster and a scavenger.  Both are clad in ironic t-shirts, but only one will take you to the Hexagon on a Friday night, while the other will ask you to keep watch outside a poorly lit parking lot, and wonder with deep disappointment why you don&#8217;t happen to have a bag for loose garbage chips on hand in your trunk.</p>
<p>I sat in my car in the dark; rolled down the window for a glimpse at the fun-havers &#8217;round the corner, their dancey tunes filling the street.  The music seemed, however, to be coming from the building next to me.  A sprawling structure called simply, &#8220;The Ivy Building.&#8221;  And rightly so.  Only it surely wasn&#8217;t an office building, and not a light flickered from any one of the hundred or so windows.  Just as I wondered alarmingly what kinds of abandoned secrets live here, a stray cat sauntered gracefully across the street, and settled on its Ivy-wound steps.</p>
<p>It was a simple moment.  But it seemed monumental in its absurdity.  The Boy comes back with a bag he&#8217;d evidently found in or around the dumpster, filled to the brim with taco chips.  I&#8217;d fancy it a fun adventure had he kissed me at any point during the evening.  But I was a cigarette-bumming getaway car.  And I&#8217;m thinking that maybe three months is a little long to remain stagnant; at bay.  But this is not news and I&#8217;m just really high, trying to make poetry of this nonsense I&#8217;ve gotten myself into.</p>
<p>But I will say the following, in a variety of tenses and towards a myriad of individuals:</p>
<p>-If there are honestly good tortillas, unexpired meats, fresh-ish vegetables, and cold-but-not-more-than-a-few-hours-old pizza in dumpsters across the country &#8212; why the fuck are these restaurants/grocery stores/fast food emporiums not finding a way to usefully pass along these edible items?  How hard would it be to neatly package salvagable foods and donate them to a shelter?  Why must there BE treasure to uncover in a fucking dumpster?  I can&#8217;t pretend to find a solution, but there must be some nonprofit that could go around and collect these remnants.  Keep them away from, you know, actual garbage.  If he had taken me to a food shelf, I would have been more impressed.</p>
<p>-Fuck your overuse of the phrase &#8220;you&#8217;re my friend.&#8221;  We have sex.  Several times a week.  And I can&#8217;t be myself around you.  We&#8217;re not friends.</p>
<p>-Oxycontin is no fun. Especially when you get impatient and take a Vicodin before it really gets a chance to kick in.  R.I.P. Heath Ledger.</p>
<p>-In spite of hating you sometimes, I like you a lot.  I love it when you touch me.  But only because it&#8217;s a rarity.</p>
<p>-I&#8217;ve decided that it&#8217;s time to integrate push-ups into my workout routine.  Previously I had been swayed by my inability to do even one.  Said barrier still stands, but I&#8217;m working towards my first full-fledged push upwards.  And many more.</p>
<p>-Let&#8217;s make love and listen to Death From Above.</p>
<p>-I have to remember to swing by the nail salon tomorrow and pick up the sham keys to my grandmother&#8217;s apartment at the Memory Care Pavilion.  She forgot them.  Ba-dum-ching.  (Notice my use of the word &#8220;sham.&#8221;  The apartments do not lock, but it makes her feel safe.)</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been writing a lot of posts while totally stoned, but then not posting them for fear of being incoherent or ridiculous.  But I&#8217;m just gonna wing this one.  I am high enough to admit that lately I feel like a sad little girl.  I feel I have the right to pity myself for playing Cinderella to my father&#8217;s lifelong mess, holding my mother&#8217;s chemo pump above the shower while she attempts to at least humanely clean herself, reminding my grandmother repeatedly at the annual Memory Care Family Barbeque that she does not, in fact, work there. And yet I am numb to the pain of it all.  I feel okay.  I have orgasms every once in a while.  But what I&#8217;d really like is the freedom to crawl into his arms and cry it out or feel admired.  For a moment I thought I had that when he reached for me in the middle of the night.  Wrapped his arms around me, kissed the top of my head.  But his glorious erection laid cause for the occasion.  And before I knew it, I was riding him, sleepily.</p>
<p>But my ability to gyrate like Lindsay Lohan in &#8220;I Know Who Killed Me&#8221; leaves me reason to believe I&#8217;m making progress towards physical fitness.</p>
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<link>http://deltasfavouritemusic.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/deltaflt1189s-favourite-music-embeds/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;"><span>Leo Sayer</span></span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnEmg8RX8w" target="_blank"><span>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnEmg8RX8w</span></a></span></span></p>
<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;background:transparent none repeat scroll 0 0;cursor:pointer;">KC &#38; The Sunshine Band</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/BfqLWVAoGEk&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/BfqLWVAoGEk&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Stevie Wonder</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;"><span>The Pointer Sisters</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/KNi8aW8Nf6s&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/KNi8aW8Nf6s&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>John Cougar Mellencamp</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>The Rolling Stones</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">The Cornelius Brothers</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Andy Gibb</span> &#38; <span>The Bee Gees</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Circus Maximus</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Petula Clark</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>A-Ha</span></span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>The Beatles</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">War</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>The Doors</span></span></span></div>
<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Rupert Holmes</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Melissa Manchester</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">The <span>Five Stairsteps</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Joe Jackson</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;"><span>Suzanne Vega</span></span></div>
<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>Duran Duran</span></span></span></div>
<p><span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OkA-vS-cV0" target="_blank"><span>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OkA-vS-cV0</span></a></span></p>
<p><span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux20YEopjjc" target="_blank"><span>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux20YEopjjc</span></a></span></p>
<p><span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuLDMx5QXV8" target="_blank"><span>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuLDMx5QXV8</span></a></span></p>
<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">The <span>Steve Miller Band</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Earny k. Doe</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>The Castaways</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">Frankie Valli</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;"><span>Glenn Shorrock</span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span>ABBA</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Nutty French Song! LOL</span></span></div>
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<link>http://bennyhinnisafake.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/exposed-benny-hinn-is-phony/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[EXPOSED! &#8211; Benny Hinn is a Fake! by David J. Stewart &amp; Andrew Friedman At Benny Hinn]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:Arial Black;font-size:large;"><span style="font-style:italic;color:#ff0000;">EXPOSED!</span> &#8211; Benny Hinn is a Fake!</span></div>
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn-devil.jpg" border="0" alt="" hspace="10" width="170" height="256" align="right" /> At    Benny Hinn&#8217;s crusades—he dazzles the crowds, plays captivating music, and    manipulates the emotions of the audience; BUT, he is not of God.  What is    happening is not of God.  Benny Hinn is a master con artist, who fully    understands the human psyche.  I was watching one of Benny Hinn&#8217;s    crusades the other day on TV.  At first impression, Benny Hinn <span style="text-decoration:underline;">appears</span> as a man of God.  He has that curious and distinguishing look that    mesmerizes the crowds.  Benny Hinn comes across as an extremely    interesting character, with the power to hypnotize the masses with his charm,    music, and exploitation of the Bible. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">As I watched Benny Hinn perform on stage, it    reminded me more of a rock star in concert.  There were many thousands of    people in the audience, and no doubt, millions more on TV..  Just as    rock-n-roll fans, the audience was in the palm of the performer, Benny Hinn.     Hinn never mentioned the word &#8220;sin,&#8221; never mentioned the word &#8220;Saviour,&#8221; but    just kept talking about how wonderful Jesus is.  This is one of Satan&#8217;s    greatest deceptions.  We read in Acts16:16-18, &#8220;<em>And it came to pass,    as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination    met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed    Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high    God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.  And this did she many    days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee    in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.</em>&#8220;     Just as the demon possessed woman in Acts 16:17 who spoke the truth while also    serving the Devil, so does Benny Hinn speak of Jesus Christ while serving the    Devil.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn-con.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="180" height="182" align="left" /><img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn-india_victims.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="220" height="171" align="right" />Hinn&#8217;s    money comes mostly from people in TV land, who are foolishly conned by what    they see on TV.  It couldn&#8217;t be more obvious that Benny Hinn has hired a    top-notch group of manipulators to work with him.  One of the camera    tricks which Hinn employs is to zoom in on certain audience members who look    like they&#8217;re having a religious experience.  Seeing someone having such    an uplifting experience, while hearing the emotion-producing music, and    listening to Hinn ramble on with religious lingo, easily mesmerizes the    viewer.  As I watched Benny Hinn, he told the audience to get ready to    receive the power of the Holy Spirit.  Next, hundreds of people towards    the front, dressed differently than the people in the back, all fell backwards    to the floor.  It was apparent to me that the event was staged.     Then came the alleged healings.  During the healing period of the    crusade, several dynamic, sharp-looking, and trained people bring forth the    alleged recipients of Hinn&#8217;s healing power.  To no surprise, as is COMMON    to self-proclaimed faith-healers like Oral Roberts, ALL of the healings are    unable to be substantiated.  A small boy was brought up on stage,    allegedly deaf in one ear since birth, but now able to hear.  Another    woman in a wheel-chair was wheeled up to the platform, allegedly crippled from    diabetes, then she walked on stage.  Another man was claimed to have been    deaf in both ears from birth, but now was healed.  Then Hinn prompted the    man to speak in an attempt to confirm the healing, and he did speak.  So    when did the man learn to speak if he was deaf his whole life? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn_fake43.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="146" height="140" align="right" /><img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn_fake44.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="249" height="185" align="left" />I&#8217;d    like to see someone with no legs receive their legs back.  Why doesn&#8217;t    Benny Hinn ever go into a hospital and empty it out of all it&#8217;s sick patients?     Why only on stage, behind the camera, while asking for money?<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> Benny Hinn    ministries took in over $100,000,000 last year alone.  Again, I ask, why    doesn&#8217;t Hinn ever use his alleged power to heal the sick people in hospitals?     The reason is abundantly clear &#8230; Hinn is a fraud.  Hinn, like John    Edward, Sylvia Browne, Oprah Winfrey, Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, and so many    other false prophets, EXPLOITS Christianity and God&#8217;s Word to gain wealth,    prosperity, control, influence, and popularity.  God&#8217;s power is not for    sale.  Do you really think God would allow anyone to exploit his power on    stage, for money, and to   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_hinn-hidden.htm" target="_blank">a false    prophet who praises the cult of Catholicism</a>?  Satan is working    relentlessly through today&#8217;s false prophets to UNITE Christianity with false    religion, which is APOSTASY!  When Constantine declared Christianity as    the official religion of Roman in 380 A.D., it led to total apostasy, and the    beginning of the formal Roman Catholic cult.  Don&#8217;t be deceived, Benny    Hinn and Billy Graham are false prophets who are leading ecumenical churches    into the New World Order (the beast system of antichrist).  Satan knows    that the easiest way to deceive people is to obscure and blur the truth of    God&#8217;s Word.  This is why we see so many watered-down Bibles nowadays.     This is why we see   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/religious_leaders_praise_pope.htm" target="_blank"> Protestants praising Catholics</a>, and   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Max_Younce/homo_priests.htm" target="_blank"> Catholics protecting homosexual priests</a>, and homosexuals twisting the    Bible around to claim that   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/sodom.htm" target="_blank">Sodom and Gomorrah&#8217;s    sin was only a lack of hospitality</a>.  The Word of God is under attack!</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">The Bible teaches that the gift of    healing ended with the Apostles.  The sign gifts were only to validate    the message of the Apostles.  This is evidenced by the Biblical fact that    the Apostle Paul, who had once been healed of a deadly snake bite, couldn&#8217;t    find relief for his thorn in the flesh later in <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">2nd Corinthians 12:7.     2nd Timothy 4:20</span></span> also states that Paul <span style="text-decoration:underline;">couldn&#8217;t</span> heal his friend    Trophimus,<br />
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">&#8220;&#8230;but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.&#8221;</span><br />
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Paul    spoke of Timothy&#8217;s &#8220;<em>often infirmities</em>&#8221; in <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">1st Timothy 5:23</span></span>, but he <span style="text-decoration:underline;"> couldn&#8217;t</span> heal his friend Timothy either.  Clearly, the &#8220;gift&#8221; of    healing had ceased.  If you want to read an excellent in-depth Biblical    examination of tongues, healing, and gifts, then please read   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Max_Younce/Tongues/toc.htm" target="_blank"> FACE TO FACE WITH TONGUES</a> by Pastor Max D. Younce.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">In Benny Hinn&#8217;s crusades, he sings,    he praises the name of Jesus, he places his hands on people and they fall to    the ground; BUT, it is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> of the Holy Spirit.  I&#8217;d like to see    Benny Hinn cry one time.  I&#8217;d like to hear Benny Hinn expose the demonic    Catholic religion.  Benny Hinn is a fraud!  According to a <em> Dateline</em> investigation in December of 2002&#8230;<br />
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<h2><span style="font-size:large;">Where does world-famous      televangelist&#8217;s money go?</span></h2>
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<pre style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">Benny Hinn has millions of believers and millions in donations

NBC News

Dec. 27, 2002 - Maybe you spotted him while you were channel surfing one night
or maybe you were already tuned in. Either way, he's hard to ignore. Benny
Hinn - televangelist, faith healer, and appointment viewing for millions of
believers. His popularity and his wealth are matched only by the devotion he
's shown by his followers, many of them desperate for help. Their stories
and his ministry play out almost every night in made-for-TV mini-dramas. But
there are other stories, other scenes that reveal much more about Pastor
Benny, caught on Dateline's hidden cameras. Correspondent Bob McKeown
reports.

<span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">   HE ALWAYS ARRIVES onstage when they begin to sing the hymn, "</span><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">How Great</span><br style="font-style:italic;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Thou Art.</span><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">"</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    And whether you measure success in his TV ratings, attendance at his</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">live services or crusades around the world, or the money he raises, he is</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">unquestionably one of the most popular and successful televangelists in the</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">world today. His television show is available around the globe. He attracts</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">capacity crowds at arenas and stadiums at home and abroad. And scenes like</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">this one in his TV studio are a big reason why:</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Benny Hinn: "Yes Lord. A lower back is being healed. Thank you Lord.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Emphysema is being healed. We rebuke it in Jesus' name. Somebody's legs have</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">just been healed."</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">      On television or at his crusades, Benny Hinn promises that wherever</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">he goes, miraculous healing will follow.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Benny Hinn: "In the name of Jesus, I rebuke the allergies out of you.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Touch! - The glory of God is in the studio. We are having a visitation in</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">the studio today as we have been taping these TV programs."</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Those miracles, Hinn says, can cure injury and illness - even</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">terminal disease.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Benny Hinn: </span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"The healing may happen instantly, and may happen</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">gradually but
 surely as God is God, your legs will work again, and your body</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">will be healed again."</span></span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    And according to Benny Hinn, it gets even more miraculous than that.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Benny Hinn: </span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"On the program today, you are going to see a clip of</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">this man who was raised from the dead."</span></span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Those dramatic claims - and his dynamic preaching style - have</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">attracted millions of devoted followers, like Carlotta Moore.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    "When I go to a crusade, I'm going because I need to be refreshed. I</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">need to be renewed. I need to be revived in my spirit," says Carlotta Moore.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    Moore says she also watches Benny Hinn's TV show everyday.</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">    "The Bible speaks of spiritual fathers," says Moore. "That is my</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">spiritual father. He's a
 leader. And he is a mentor."</span><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;" /></span></pre>
<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">EVANGELIST AND FUNDRAISER</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><br />
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    And he is a master fund raiser as well, so along with that devotion
comes money - a lot of it. Though pastor Benny denies it, estimates of total
ministry revenue exceed $100 million a year.

    Benny Hinn insists his only mission is to preach the gospel, save
souls, and heal the sick. But is there
 more than that to the man they call
pastor Benny?

    "Dateline" looked at the ministry of pastor Benny Hinn, who claims
miraculous power flows from God through him. We'll take a closer look at all
his healings and at all the money that goes into his collection buckets.

     Hinn was born in the Middle East, raised in Canada, and modeled
himself after a faith healer, the legendary Katherine Kuhlman. Hinn started
a church in Orlando, almost two decades ago. By 1999, he'd left Florida,
building his ministry's administrative headquarters in Dallas and his TV
studio in southern California where he now lives.

    Hinn's claims of miracles have made him immensely popular, but those
healings, combined with his ministry's enormous wealth, have also triggered
scrutiny of a different kind.

      "I say he's in the business of raising money and spreading his own
celebrity," says Ole Anthony, who heads the
 Trinity Foundation - a Christian
watch-dog group that examines the workings of television ministries. The
organization operates on donations, grants, and sales of its magazine and
tapes.

    Ole Anthony himself has been highly critical of television preachers
who don't divulge the details of how they raise and spend their money -
especially Benny Hinn.

    "We've gotten most of the complaints lately from Benny's organization
and Benny's followers," says Anthony. "That became our focus, we've been
following him intently since 1993."

    "Dateline" asked the Trinity Foundation to provide access to, among
other things, documents and videotape it's collected about the Hinn
Ministry. We reimbursed the foundation for its costs.

    And we also went looking for some answers ourselves. For almost two
years, "Dateline" sought permission to videotape Benny Hinn's crusades, to
see how this affluent
 television ministry really works.

    Eventually we were allowed to bring our cameras to a crusade in
Atlanta. But the ministry made it clear we were only permitted to tape the
first hour or so. Then after Hinn's entrance, a few hymns and some saving of
souls, we were told to stop.

VIEW FROM A HIDDEN CAMERA

    So, in order to try to find out what really goes on behind the scenes
of the Benny Hinn Ministry, we attended a number of other crusades and
walked in right though the front door with everybody else. Only this time,
the cameras were hidden.

    At least once a month, somewhere in the U.S., 50,000 or 60,000 people
attend one of Benny Hinn's two-day crusades. Over the past two years, we
followed pastor Benny around the country to Hampton, Virginia; Las Vegas;
Buffalo, and a few cities in between.

    At each of the crusades we attended, the faithful began to arrive
hours before
 the service. And so did we with our hidden cameras.

    But even when you get there early, the best sections are already
taken - reserved for major donors, church VIPs and, at the back, for the
disabled and those in wheelchairs.

    In Buffalo, we found our seats high up in the bleachers and we began
recording the service in the middle of that noisy crowd with a hidden
microphone and camera.

    What brings the faithful out to see Benny Hinn is the healing. The
expectation that sometime tonight they're going to see, or perhaps even be -
one of those people who arrive desperately ill and leave miraculously cured.
 What brings the faithful out to see Benny Hinn is the healing. The
expectation that sometime tonight they're going to see, or perhaps even be -
one of those people who arrive desperately ill and leave miraculously cured.

      The script - Benny Hinn's tried-and-true formula - was always
 the
same. And it always started with the music. There's an orchestra, a heavenly
host of local church choirs, and an all-star cast of Christian headliners.
The crowd's emotional temperature seems to rise, as they anxiously wait for
pastor Benny.

    "It's organized more closely than a political convention," says Ole
Anthony, of the Trinity Foundation.. "There's the repetitive music, there's
the mood lighting, there's this whole arrangement of waiting and waiting and
waiting until he comes on stage. The band is playing, "How Great Thou Art"
and then the process starts."

    Once he arrives onstage, pastor Benny preaches, prays and spiritually
tends his flock.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"If you mean business with God, he means business with
you."</span>

    At a Benny Hinn crusade, you can't
 help but notice the faith of his
followers and how much they appear to believe in him and his healing
message.

    The impression one gets being among that crowd is that whatever's
happening down there on the stage, however it may or may not be
choreographed, these people have come because they truly believe.

    "There's no question that the people that are there have strong
belief or a strong want-to-belief," says Anthony, "and so they respond."

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<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">THE TENSION BUILDS</span></span><br />
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    In fact, all evening, throughout the arena, the tension keeps
building because everyone here knows what's going to happen next.

    Benny Hinn:
 <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"There's power here, people. Lift your hands and receive
it."</span>

    According to pastor Benny, that "power" will soon lead to miracles:

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"By moving those legs that have been crippled for all
those years."</span>

    This is from a highlights tape we bought from the ministry's Web
site.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"You're tired of all the pills you've taken, and all the
needles they put in your body and all the pain you felt. Well, I'm here to
tell you, you will be healed tonight!"</span>

      After the preaching, there's the passing of the collection buckets.
And then comes the moment when Benny Hinn makes his
 much-anticipated
announcement - God is speaking to him, he says, revealing a multitude of
miracles, actual healings now taking place throughout the arena, some of
them very specific.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"There is a young man named George. George has HIV. But
my brother George, the holy ghost is burning it out of your body!"</span>

    At all of the evening crusades we attended, it was about 10 p.m. when
Hinn announced God was speaking to him.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"Another arthritis has been healed."</span>

    Benny Hinn's ministry says that in order to verify the miraculous
healings that have taken place, it screens those who claim they've been
healed before they get up on stage.

    First, Hinn staff members talk to the people who get in line. This
screener is even a
 doctor and he evidently thinks this woman is a good
candidate to announce her healing up on the platform with pastor Benny.

    Doctor: "No pain? Great job. You couldn't do that before? (As she
moves her head around.) That is neat. Yeah, take her up there."

    The people selected by the screeners are then introduced to Benny
Hinn and the capacity crowd. Those who've been healed, and others who attend
each service, are given a blessing by pastor Benny with his own personal
touch. And whether he blows or flicks or waves his hand, the faithful are
strewn across the floor like bowling pins. So what exactly is at work here?

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<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;">RELIGION OR HYPNOSIS?</span><br />
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    "They'd fall down," says Michael Cohen. "They'd fall backwards. He'd
blow on them. They'd fall over. And I thought these were actors that came in
and they paid them so much. And they had a string and they pulled them
 down."

    Even some who were skeptics at first soon became believers, like
Michael Cohen.

    "And when I finally went up there, I ended up falling down," says
Cohen. "I closed my eyes but I knew that Benny didn't push me. I knew I wasn't
 pulled or tugged. I knew that was God touching me."

    But Ole Anthony says he thinks it's a phenomenon that has much more
to do with mass hypnosis than religion.

    "And they watch him on television over and over and over for years,"
says Anthony. "And they see it, they expect it, they see other people
upstage are falling over right and left. Sometimes Benny falls over the
place. It's a circus. It's like professional
 wrestling."

    Bob McKeown: "But in fact he's been on the record time and time again
saying he is not a healer."

    Ole Anthony: "Of course."

    Bob McKeown: "It's God who heals."

    Ole Anthony: "Of course."

    Bob McKeown: "He's just the vessel that's been chosen."

    Ole Anthony: "What's the reason that people come to the crusades?
What's the main thing that happens onstage? That's his attraction. He
promotes himself as a healer, as a healing ministry."

    But according to former Hinn insiders, there's a great deal more to
Benny Hinn's crusades than what you see on television - and what we've found
supports that. A woman who worked at crusades said she was instructed to
look particularly for those standing in front of their wheelchairs.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"Look at all the empty wheelchairs here in Las
 Vegas,
people!"</span>

    Empty wheelchairs apparently imply there's been a lot of healing
going on. But for every one of the people declared healed by pastor Benny on
stage and on TV, many more leave the arena still sick or disabled.

    "Desperate people, the really desperate ones, the ones that break
your heart are at the back on the crusade, they won't let them up in the
lines," says Anthony.

    The broadcasts of Benny Hinn's crusade in Buffalo did not include
what our hidden camera captured. This man was escorted from his seat by
security guards after crying out for pastor Benny to touch his apparently
ill son. "I wanted to take my son up there and get prayed. That's all I
wanted," he said.

    So not everyone who wants to get up on stage is allowed to.. But what
happens to those who are called up on the platform to be touched by pastor
Benny? To try to find out, we attended a crusade in
 Las Vegas, and we did
our best to keep track of each and every one of the miracles Benny Hinn
proclaimed. By our count, there were 56 of them in all - many of which ended
up on this videotape we purchased through the ministry.

    This little boy said his damaged vision was cured: "And as soon as
God healed me, I could see better."

    According to one woman, her cancer was gone. Hinn said God told him a
demon had caused the cancer, and he cast it out.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Go out of her! It's gone!"</span></span>

    One woman said she had a diseased lung.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"The lord is asking me now to ask him to give you a new
lung."</span>

    According to pastor Benny, she got that new lung, right there on
stage.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"That's why she's coughing... that's why she's coughing."</span></span>

    And there was this woman, who said she was cured of lung cancer. She
says: "She had cancer in the lungs. She don't have it now!"

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<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">HEAVYWEIGHT HEALING</span></span><br />
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    In his 25 years of healing, there have been thousands of similar
stories from Hinn's followers - none of them more famous than this one. At a
crusade in 1994, Benny Hinn came to the aid of the former heavyweight
champion of the world. Evander Holyfield had lost his boxing license because
a medical test had revealed a serious heart
 ailment.

    Benny Hinn (at a crusade): <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"The Lord is telling me right now he is</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">repairing Holyfield's heart completely."</span></span>

    Reportedly, Holyfield promised Hinn a check for $265,000, and before
long, he got a clean bill of health, and won the world title back.

    But Benny Hinn doesn't only minister to the rich and famous.

    Bob McKeown: "And you needed a miracle."

    Belva Ventura: "Oh, did I."

    Bob McKeown: "You and your son."

    Belva Ventura: "Yes."

      We met Belva Ventura at a crusade in Worcester, Massachusetts. She
and her son had both been diagnosed with cancer. Both had been told it was
terminal. Before long, she and her son were on stage in front of 14,000
people, right next to pastor
 Benny.

    Bob McKeown: "And what did Pastor Hinn say to you?"

    Belva Ventura: "Oh, he hugged us. And he put his arm around me. And
he couldn't believe all the cancer in one family. And he said we're gonna
get this cancer out of this house right now. It's not gonna bother you no
more. And we came home, we were happy. I was healed. I know I was."

    The question is, despite all the claims, how does anyone really know
if Belva Ventura or any of the others was indeed miraculously healed at one
of Benny Hinn's crusades?

    So we asked pastor Benny to help us follow up on some of the people
we saw on his stage. Then we did some following up of our own.

    Bob McKeown: "As far as you know, the ministry has no idea whether
your cancer is still there or not."

    Belva Ventura: "No."

    Bob McKeown: "Whether you're alive or not."

    Belva Ventura: "No. No. they don't."

   Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"But as surely as God is God - your legs will work again,</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">and your body will be healed again, and your lungs will breathe again, and</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">your eyes will see again!"</span></span>

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<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">PROOF OF HEALING?</span></span><br />
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    At all of his live crusades, Benny Hinn proclaims a breath-taking
litany of miraculous healing. Pastor Benny has said that everyone who gets
up on his platform has been checked by a doctor. His ministry also claims
 it
has a follow up process with people afterwards that it describes as
"exhaustive" and "thorough," and that medical information it collects is
reviewed first by a nurse, then by a doctor.

    So we wanted to find out how that process works and which of those
claims of miracles actually can be verified. We thought a good place to
start would be with the ministry itself. Last year, we asked Benny Hinn to
help us confirm the 56 healings we counted at just one of his crusades - the
one in Las Vegas.

      By the time we asked, dozens of those "miracles" had already been
broadcast around the world on his TV show, including the woman who Benny
Hinn said had grown a new lung right there on stage.

    Woman: "Feels like something in there, like someone was reaching in
my heart, in my lung."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"I want you to
 go back to your earthly doctor, have him</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">give you an X-ray. I want to hear about it. I want a full story."</span></span>

    But if Hinn knows the full story about who was healed in Las Vegas,
he's not sharing it with us. In a letter from its lawyer, the ministry
refused to provide proof of any of those healings to "Dateline."

    So since the ministry wouldn't give us any information, we did some
checking of our own about Las Vegas, and other reported healings.

    Remember the woman we met in Las Vegas who said she'd been cured of
lung cancer? With our hidden camera, we were able to go back stage to her
follow-up interview.

    Hinn staffer: "Now, what happened tonight that makes you feel God
touched you?"

    She did speak to a Hinn staff member, but it's hard to know how from
this conversation alone he could have known
 whether she was cured of cancer,
or even if she had it in the first place.

    Staffer: "That primary tumor can be one cell."

    She was asked a few questions, but it didn't appear to us that there
was any medical examination.

    Staffer: "Keep trusting God. Follow it up with your physicians. Thank
you so much. The Lord bless you all."

    Unfortunately, there's one thing we were able to determine about this
woman without the ministry's help. She died two and a half months after the
crusade. The cause was lung cancer.

    And then there was Evander Holyfield's heart ailment - which seemed
to disappear after that crusade in 1994 - touted as one of pastor Benny's
greatest healing successes.

    When Holyfield then won his world title back, it seemed a storybook
ending - except for one problem. According to the Nevada Athletic
Commission, two different clinics determined that Holyfield
 had been
misdiagnosed. His doctor had been given incomplete information about his
condition. In other words, there was nothing seriously wrong with Holyfield'
s heart in the first place. But three years later, pastor Benny was still
claiming credit for the champ's miraculous healing.

    On the "Larry King" show with Pastor Benny, he was aksed: "Evander
Holyfield credits you with curing his heart problem, although doctors said
that maybe it was misread in the first place."

    Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"God healed him in one of our crusades, yeah."</span></span>

    Evander Holyfield had no comment through his lawyer.

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<div style="text-align:center;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">STILL DYING OF CANCER</span></span><br />
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    And remember Belva Ventura, who said Benny Hinn cast out cancer from
her and her son?

      A few weeks after that crusade in Worcester, Massachusetts, Belva's
son died of cancer. When we visited several months later, she said she hadn'
t had a follow-up call from anyone in the Hinn organization.

    Bob McKeown: "As far as you know, the ministry has no idea whether
your cancer is still there or not."

    Belva Ventura: "No."

    Bob McKeown: "Whether you're alive or not."

    Belva Ventura: "No. No. they don't. Otherwise, they would have got
hold of me. Nobody did."

    Her physicians evidently were not convinced of her claims of healing.

    Bob McKeown: "What do your doctors say?"

    Belva Ventura: "They laugh. They look at me and they laugh. They don'
t believe me."

    Belva
 still believed apparently until the end. A month after our
visit, she died. The cause, her doctor told us, was cancer.

    Bob McKeown: "If Benny Hinn, by whatever means, can give people like
that hope, is that not a good thing?"

    Ole Anthony: "Then why don't we just - why doesn't the FDA approve
snake oil? And we could have snake oil salesmen run around offering and
saying, "This little tube of water here, cost you $1,000. And if you take
it, you'll be cured of cancer." It's the same thing except he's doing it in
God's name, which makes it terrible, terrible. He's lying. False hope has to
always be exposed. It must be exposed."

    Benny Hinn says it's possible for someone to be healed at one of his
crusades only to have the illness or injury return later. Here's how he
explains it:

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"This is your Day Vegas... My
 Friend, hear this well. The
reason people lose their healing, is because they begin questioning if God
really did it."</span>

    That, says Ole Anthony, only makes matters even worse for those who
are desperately ill.

    "Now they're twice as bad off as they were before because now,
according to Benny, they've done something wrong," says Anthony.

    After repeated requests to verify healings - specifically the 56 we
saw at the crusade in Las Vegas - Benny Hinn's ministry sent us details of
what it said were five irrefutable and medically proven miracles, but none
was from the Las Vegas crusade we were asking about.

    The cases they gave us ranged from a herniated disc, to heart
problems, cancer and Lou Gehrig's disease. When we called them, all five
people insisted they had been healed, but four of them wouldn't or couldn't
provide their medical records, and we could not speak to their
 doctors.

    As for the woman who said she'd been healed of Lou Gehrig's disease,
for which there is no known cure, we did speak to her neurologist, who said
he suspected she didn't have Lou Gehrig's disease in the first place.

    Though the ministry says publicly that the medical information it
collects is reviewed by a nurse and a doctor, in a letter to us from its
lawyer, the ministry acknowledged to us that it is ".... Impossible to
investigate and substantiate each and every one" of the healings proclaimed
at pastor Benny's crusades.

    But with our without absolute proof of the miracles, millions of
followers keep coming to the crusades, and continue to donate millions to
his ministry.

    But now, people who've worked inside the Hinn organization are
raising questions about where some of that money has gone.

Part two: Former insiders question what happened to some of the church
 money

Benny Hinn (at his crusade): <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Only those who have been giving to God's work</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">will be spared."</span></span>

    The money starts pouring in at Benny Hinn's crusades, thousands of
people filling hundreds of pastor Benny's collection buckets at every
service we attended.

    Chris Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"One side cash, one side checks."</span></span>

    A 1994 security tape shows Hinn staffers and volunteers counting the
collection money at a crusade.

    For three years in the mid-1990s, Mike Estrella says he was one of
those responsible for counting crusade collections in his capacity as Benny
Hinn's head usher.

    At the time, Estrella says, he was a devoted follower, and
 still
credits pastor Benny with curing his heart condition.

    Bob McKeown: "In cash, what was the biggest night you counted?"

    Mike Estrella: "In cash? Well, one night I counted $420,000."

    Steve Brock: "A dollar a day. Everybody say it with me - a dollar a
day."

    It may sound like they start out small, but the numbers soon get very
big. According to documents provided by the Trinity Foundation, and
published reports - Benny Hinn has more than 100,000 people who promise to
give him a dollar-a-day. If they keep that pledge, that would add up to at
least $3 million a month - $36 million a year.

    The people on this list seemed to be even more generous than that -
it appears some of them pledged or gave more than $100,000 apiece last year.

    Benny Hinn: "The greatest thing you can do for your finances is to
give to the work of God."

    On TV, and at his
 crusades, Hinn promises that not only will God
improve your health, but your financial life as well - perhaps by getting
you out of debt with an unexpected financial windfall. But first, you have
to give money to his ministry. Hinn calls it "sowing the seed."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Amen. So expect a financial harvest but you have to sow</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">a seed to see it happen... you may want to call your seed in today. Our 800</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">number is on the screen."</span></span>

    Hinn follower Carlotta Moore told us she sows a seed of $12,000 a
year with pastor Benny, and that she expects to be financially rewarded.

    Carlotta Moore: "Because the Bible say [sic] what you sow, you gonna
reap. Now if you sow good things, you
 gonna reap good."

    Bob McKeown: "But might that mean that if you give money, you get
money back?"

    Carlotta Moore: "Oh yes, you will get money back. You will get money
back. Out of the clear blue sky, checks will come from somewhere. You go to
put on a dress or something, or take out a pocketbook up there in the
closet. There is $50 or $60 laying up in there. You'll be like, 'Woah, woah,
woah. Thank you, Lord.' You understand?"

    And the money Benny Hinn's ministry gets is not only in the form of
donations.

    "He sells his books, he sells his tapes, he sells everything, and is
just a money machine, and money pours in," says Ole Anothony. "He's one of
the most successful money raisers in history."

    In recent years, the Hinn ministry's total annual income has
increased dramatically from $50 million in 1997 to the latest estimates -
that the ministry says are inaccurate - of more
 than $100 million a year.
And because the ministry is registered as a church, all that money is
tax-free and Benny Hinn is under no legal obligation to make his finances
public.

    Bob McKeown: "Is there any way to know how much Benny Hinn makes?
Whether he's personally benefiting or not, and where the money goes?"

    Paul Nelson: "There really isn't, and that's why an organization like
ECFA has been formed."

    Paul Nelson is president of ECFA, the Evangelical Council for
Financial Accountability. Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, and the Salvation
Army are among its 1,000-plus members who voluntarily disclose to potential
donors more financial information than the law requires.

    "We believe that most people would like to know that the charities
that they give to are governed responsibly, that they practice disclosure of
their finances and other activities, they willingly answer questions,
 and
that they raise funds with integrity," says Nelson.

    Members release audited financial statements, including the salaries
of their ministers.

    Benny Hinn is not an ECFA member. He wouldn't tell us his annual
salary, but five years ago he acknowledged it was then between $500,000 and
$1 million a year.

    And Hinn won't specify how his ministry's money is spent, except to
say he doesn't personally benefit from any of it.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"Every dollar you give this morning is going to the work
of the Lord."</span>

    What Benny Hinn does tell his followers is that all their donations
are spent on God's work - for example, the expenses of his TV show and
crusades, the salaries of his staff, supporting churches and orphanages
around the world and more importantly.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"So everything you give this morning is going for souls.</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">Is going for what?"</span></span>

    The crowd repeats: "Souls."

    And many of his faithful, like Carlotta Moore, say they have no doubt
that's true.

    "We're not giving it to Pastor Benny, we're giving it to the ministry
to do the work the Pastor Benny has been entrusted to do," says Moore.

    But this former Hinn ministry staff member says he has reason to
question pastor Benny's sincerity.

    "And Benny was laughing and joking and saying, <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">'Hey guys watch how
much money I make tonight,'"</span> says Michael Cohen.

    For years, Michael Cohen and his wife were church members. He also
belonged to Hinn's security detail, traveling the world with
 him. Cohen
recalls an incident after a service at the church where he says pastor Benny
bragged about his financial conquests.

    "Like one little grandmother one time came up and cried, I think she
said, this is my last $5. And we got back in the Green Room and he said,
'Ha, I got her last $5, guys,'" says Cohen.

    The ministry says the incident never happened.

    As for his lifestyle, pastor Hinn has explained that some of the
perks he has enjoyed like custom-made suits and expensive cars have been
paid for by his personal income, including the royalties from his many
books.

    While that may be true and legal, it's only part of the story.
According to the Trinity Foundation, the biggest customer for pastor Benny's
books is pastor Benny's own ministry. Trinity says the Hinn ministry buys
thousands of the books for which Hinn apparently collects the royalties.

    The ministry then
 offers them for sale at crusades and on its Web
site, and gives them away to donors.

    According to Paul Nelson of ECFA, that kind of business deal is too
close for comfort, and wouldn't be allowed if Hinn belonged to his
organization.

    "Our standards prohibit the royalty in that case going to the
individual," says Nelson. "The royalty must go for the benefit of the
ministry."

    The Hinn ministry also spends a great deal on pastor Benny's
lifestyle when he's on the road. These records show hotel suites for well
over a thousand dollars a night and transatlantic flights on the Concorde -
at more than $8,000 round trip. That is, before pastor Benny began flying in
a multi-million-dollar private jet.

    But Hinn contributor Carlotta Moore says that use of money given to
Hinn's church for God's work is just fine with her.

    "I'm pretty sure NBC's man that owns NBC probably got his own
 jet and
multimillion dollars," says Carlotta Moore. "Probably got houses here,
houses there, and this that and the other. And I believe that the preachers
of the gospel, I believe they should live better than even NBC's president."

    But Benny Hinn's followers may not know about how all of their
donations are spent. For example there's Hinn's palatial new home, now being
built for $3.5 million in an exclusive gated community overlooking the
Pacific Ocean.

    The plans call for more than 6,000 square feet - 7 bedrooms, 8
bathrooms and a basement garage with enough space for ten cars. Who's paying
for that? Not pastor Benny. That mansion on the Pacific is considered the
Hinn ministry's church residence or "parsonage," and the ministry is picking
up all the expenses for land, construction, even property taxes.

    The ministry says the house is a good investment, but Paul Nelson of
ECFA says Benny
 Hinn should be concerned about the perception of that house
deal. He says the expenditure of millions of dollars of church money on a
house for it's leader, is almost unprecedented.

    Bob McKeown: "Are you aware among your membership of any church
residence, parsonage, that is worth $3 million?"

    Paul Nelson: "I am not aware of that."

    Bob McKeown: "Not Billy Graham's..."

    Paul Nelson: "I don't believe so. No."

    Bob McKeown: "...residence? Pat Robertson's?"

    Paul Nelson: "I don't believe so."

    However it managed to pay for his house. Benny Hinn's ministry has
apparently had problems finishing other special projects.

    Since February of 2001, the Hinn Web site has been soliciting
donations for a new orphanage to be built in this little town outside Mexico
City saying it would be finished "soon.."

    But when we checked in Mexico, more than a
 year-and-a-half later, we
could find no sign of any construction. But the Hinn web site kept promising
that construction would be finished in, "a few short months."

    That was news to the local official in charge of construction in the
town, who told us the Hinn ministry hadn't even been issued a building
permit yet.

    What we did find, however, was this sign - curiously not in Spanish,
but English - attached to a house the ministry called it's 'temporary
orphanage,' which appeared to be empty. The Hinn Web site continued to
solicit donations.

    And then there was pastor Benny's most ambitious project - his $25
million healing center to be built in Texas.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">"And the Lord said to me to build a healing center that
people can come to 24-hours a day, any day of the week to be prayed for and
get
 healed."</span>

    That was Benny Hinn raising funds for the project in 1999, but this
was Benny Hinn on a Christian telethon a year later: "Many of our wonderful
friends have called and said, 'What's with the healing center?' and
basically what the Lord has said to me is to wait for his voice."

    Hinn announced that God had told him to postpone construction, so he
said he was going to spend that money on other things.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"I am putting all the money we have in the ministry to</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">get out there and preach."</span></span>

    According to ECFA's Paul Nelson, that kind of unilateral diversion of
funds would simply be unacceptable.

    "They're creating a backlog of funds and they're not really released
to spend those funds on anything else,"
 says Nelson.

    But now apparently, pastor Benny has changed his mind again and says
the money raised for the healing center is being held in special ministry
accounts until the time is right.

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"The day will come, I am in no hurry, neither is God. The</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">day will come I will fulfill that vision."</span></span>

    Remember Mike Estrella, who was the head usher at Hinn crusades? He
says one night, the ministry's chief executive officer offered him a wad of
cash taken from the collection.

    How much money? Mike Estrella says thousands.

    According to Estrella, the man who took that money from the
collection buckets was pastor Benny's righthand man, CEO Gene Polino.

    "I just push it back," says Estrella. "One day he told me
 these
words, he says 'Mike, if you follow me and listen to me, I guarantee one
thing, you never have to work again.'"

    After that Mike Estrella says, he began to watch Gene Polino more
closely.

    Estrella: "One time, Polino says give me all the hundreds and all the
fifties. And I did that. And many of them went to his pockets."

    Now how does he know that? "Because I saw him doing it," says
Estrella.

    In a telephone interview, Gene Polino, now retired as Hinn's CEO,
denied those claims.

    Gene Polino told "Dateline" he has "no problem" with Mike Estrella,
but that the former head usher sometimes got "confused." But two years ago,
in a deposition given under oath, Benny Hinn's 's brother Christopher, who
worked in a crusade counting room, testified he too saw Gene Polino
regularly stuff $50 and $100 bills into a bag. Christopher Hinn also
testified that the ministry CEO told
 him "...don't worry about it." Hinn and
Estrella both say they don't know if Polino kept the money they described
seeing him take.

    But Gene Polino told us none of it happened, insisting he never took
any money from the collections.

    Bob McKeown: "You categorically deny that?"

    Gene Polino: "Surely."

    Polino was never charged with any crime and the ministry says he did
not engage in any wrongdoing while employed by the church.

    Christopher Hinn and Mike Estrella both say they told Benny Hinn what
they saw, and we wanted to ask him about it. Through his lawyers and
spokesmen, Hinn repeatedly turned down our request for an interview. We
finally approached him outside his hotel after a crusade in Buffalo last
year.

    Bob McKeown: "Pastor Hinn, I'm Bob McKeown from 'Dateline, NBC.'
Could we have a word with you? We would like to arrange an interview. As you
know,
 we've been trying to contact you."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"I'm so tired right now. I'm worn out."</span></span>

    Bob McKeown: "Well, we would be pleased to do it at any time you'd be
available."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Alright."</span></span>

    Bob McKeown: "In the near future. But as you know, we've been trying
to do this for several months now."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"I know, I've been so busy."</span></span>

    Bob McKeown: "And we haven't had much luck with you."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"No, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, gentlemen, please."</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /></span>
    Bob
 McKeown: "We seem to be having a bit of a problem with your
security detail here."

    Benny Hinn: <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"I know, I'm sorry about that."</span></span>

    We did eventually get a final answer from Benny Hinn to our interview
request - it was still <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"no."</span></span>

    Benny Hinn's brother Christopher has left the ministry after a
dispute with his brother, and the church says it has had no further dealings
with him.

    As for those other former Hinn insiders, head usher Mike Estrella and
security man Michael Cohen, they say that when they tried to complain to
pastor Benny about abuses in his organization, they were fired.

    In another letter from its lawyer, the ministry says Mike Estrella's
allegations are "unfounded and
 unsubstantiated," and that he was "... Acting
irresponsibly, maliciously or suffered from some impairment when making the
charges."

    As for Michael Cohen, the ministry says, "he is motivated by a
misguided personal vendetta against pastor Hinn and the church..." and
called him an "...unstable and unreliable source."

    Bob McKeown: "What would he say about you now, and the things you're
saying about him?"

    Michael Cohen: "He may tell people that haven't been around for
years, that I'm a disgruntled employee. The fact is, when I first started
working for him, for two years, I wouldn't even take a paycheck."

    Bob McKeown: "Do you believe that he has healed people? "

    Michael Cohen: "No."

    Bob McKeown: "Or that people are healed because of him?"

    Michael Cohen: "No. I don't. I believe that people have been healed.
It's God's power, it's not Benny's. Benny, in the
 last couple of years,
wields this power around likes it's his power."

    Cohen and Estrella maintain they were true believers, who put their
faith in a man they thought could bring hope and healing to millions.

    "What I saw was a big business rolling millions of dollars every
year, many people getting rich," says Mike Estrella. "And the rich getting
richer, and the poor getting worse."

    But then, there's Carlotta Moore, a pastor herself, who like millions
of others says she still believes in Benny Hinn.

    She says, "Pastor Benny's job is the work that God has called him to
do, to be that mediator, that channel for that anointing that God has placed
on his life, the work that God has called him to do, to carry that work out
here on Earth."

    Benny Hinn (at a crusade): <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Stand up, lift your hands, and
 receive</span><br style="font-style:italic;" /><span style="font-style:italic;">from heaven, in the name of Jesus!"</span></span></span></pre>
<pre style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:small;">What more information do you need?
Benny Hinn is a manipulator who EXPLOITS the Gospel and Christianity.</span></pre>
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<title><![CDATA[**My Response To The Blog: "VonHess's Blog - As Fake As Jesus":**]]></title>
<link>http://amessagetothepridefulvonhess.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/my-response-to-the-blog-vonhesss-blog-as-fake-as-jesus/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>deltaflt1189</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[You are a false prophet, a liar, &amp; a misled snake in the grass who has no truth in him. It]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>You are a false prophet, a liar, &#38; a misled snake in the grass who has no truth in him. It&#8217;s a shame, really. you ought to read my testimony of miracles that occurred in my life when Jesus Christ made Himself known to me, in 11/06/2006. Typically, many pagans lack the courage to view my testimony in it&#8217;s entirety, but hopefully, you&#8217;re not as cowardly as the rest of your type usually is.</p>
<p>According to you &#38; your pride, Jesus Christ is &#8220;fake&#8221;. but you just keep telling yerself that, &#38; when you begin to beg Him for yer eternal life at the end of time, yer gonna look back at every single time He tried to send one of us your way to try to get you to see the truth about who He is, &#38; the miracles that He could have performed in your life, but out of all that worldly garbage pride you people so covet, you chose not to. So be it. It&#8217;ll be your loss, &#38; you&#8217;ll have no one else to blame for your getting tossed into hell, but yourself.</p>
<p>I hope that you will come to your senses, my main man. the test for you at this time is this: Do you have courage? Are you that eager to avoid an eternity writhing in agony in hell? Let us see, if you are brave, or if you are a sorry sucker of Satan. Y would you wanna side with an eternally- condemned deity (Satan) who will do nothing but get inside your head to fuck with yer health, both physically &#38; spiritually? Surely you cannot be that much of a sorry sucker, are you? Or is it that you&#8217;re just plain weak? Because anyone who has either heard of an extensive story of miracles that Jesus Christ the King of peace performs in one of our lives, or if one of you have read one of our extensive testimonies of the miracles that He&#8217;s done in our lives but refuses to give Him a chance anyway, is nothing more than a sucker, &#38; a coward &#8212; PERIOD.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you know that Satan is nothing more than a permission boy? He&#8217;s just some bullshitter &#38; a chicken shit, who every time he hears the name of Jesus Christ, he runs like one. Oh &#38; just so you know my man &#8230; we as the born again Christian have power over witches &#38; warlocks. So getting cute with us will only get the fire returned back to you, alrghty then? Hahahaha &#8230;</p>
<p>Keep in touch, my main man.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Andrew Friedman</p>
<p>http://delta-flt1189.xanga.com/703169840/miracles-that-actually-happened-to-me-on-the-night-of-11062006/</p>
<p>DELTA_flt.1189@yahoo.com</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Creative Scavenging]]></title>
<link>http://flandrumhill.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/creative-scavenging/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>flandrumhill</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Here in Nova Scotia, shellfish such as lobsters and crabs are our most famous scavengers, bottom fee]]></description>
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<p>Here in Nova Scotia, shellfish such as lobsters and crabs are our most famous scavengers, bottom feeders that keep the ocean clean of decaying matter.  Scavenging may be a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.   Some scavengers, such as cockroaches and vultures,  are considered quite unattractive, making the job they do seem even more lowly.   Others, such as lovely molluscs, seem to make the act of scavenging less repulsive.  However, regardless of  how they appear to the rest of us, all scavengers are skilled at making the most of whatever they can find.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2893" title="medium shell" src="http://flandrumhill.wordpress.com/files/2009/07/medium-shell.jpg" alt="medium shell" width="240" height="240" />A scavenger hunt is a game where the goal is to complete tasks or find items on a list.  The Mid-Summer Scavenger Hunt outlined <a title="A Midsummers Scavenger Hunt" href="http://flandrumhill.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/a-midsummers-scavenger-hunt/">earlier</a> this season involves taking photos showing each of 5 elements in nature:  water, earth, fire, wood and metal.  You take your list and your camera, go outside and do your best to find one of each.  Scavenger hunting is fun and all are invited to give it a try.  <strong>The last day to submit your entry is this coming Monday, July 20th.</strong></p>
<p>Although going out into nature with your eyes wide open is its own reward, there will be prizes for participants.  If you haven&#8217;t submit your entry yet, remember to&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>Be creative.</li>
<li>Think outside the box.</li>
<li>Be a lateral thinker.</li>
<li>Engage both sides of your brain.</li>
</ul>
<p>Prizes will take the form of color reproductions of drawings featured either on Flandrum Hill or my art blog, Drawing Conclusions.  Last season, all in good fun, Gerry of Torch Lake Views offered <a title="Torch Lake Views Goldsworthy Award" href="http://torchlakeviews.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/a-bow-to-the-goldsworthy-of-flandrum-hill/">a virtual Goldsworthy award</a>.  Who knows what interesting things will happen this time round!</p>
<p>As of this morning, two creative scavengers in Michigan have already participated and posted their results:</p>
<ul>
<li>Jessica at <a title="The Magical Mundane" href="http://themagicalmundane.blogspot.com/2009/07/midsummer-scavenger-hunt-challennge.html">The Magical Mundane</a> and</li>
<li>Kathy at <a title="Opening the Door, Walking Outside" href="http://centria.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/scavenger-hunt-in-a-12-x-12-foot-patch-of-earth/">Opening the Door, Walking Outside</a></li>
</ul>
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<title><![CDATA[Dear Seagull]]></title>
<link>http://dearmrpostman.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/dear-seagull/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>margaret michelle</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Dear Seagull, Hey you! With the motley feathers on the top of your head. You look like your mama bre]]></description>
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<p>Hey you! With the motley feathers on the top of your head. You look like your mama bred with a squirrel, maybe, and a rat somehow licked your egg and transferred some dirty DNA.</p>
<p>Look at that other seagull over there. As my favorite boyfriend G, pointed out, he probably flew over from Bremerton. He&#8217;s clean, and white and gray where he&#8217;s supposed to be, and in fact, he&#8217;s standing on top of a rock while you seem to be in some sort of uneven hole? And you, my friend, are pure Seattle. You&#8217;ve been bathing in tank oil and eating french fries from Ivar&#8217;s tourists forever.</p>
<p>Your left foot is all duck-footed&#8211; you&#8217;re a <em>seagull</em>, remember&#8211; and man those feathers on the top of your head are GROSS. They are about to wither and die while still on your body.</p>
<p>And in fact, your entire body is a kind of mottled (accurate and perfect in its connotation of ugly) grayblackwhite and maybegreen? Which <em>cannot</em> be natural. I&#8217;m telling you, that squirrel/rat combination did no good to your mother&#8217;s genes.</p>
<p>What the hell, seagull, you&#8217;ve taken from being a smallish vulture/overly large crow/flying raccoon/freegan (scavengers, people, they&#8217;re all scavengers) to being a searatquirrel, whose main weapon is UGLY.</p>
<p>I just really felt the need to express that.</p>
<p>All right, go on, waddle off and fly in a crooked line into the sunset,</p>
<p>MM</p>
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<title><![CDATA[**EXPOSED! - America's Phony, Apostate "Churches"!**]]></title>
<link>http://beholdamericasphonyapostatechurches.wordpress.com/2009/07/05/exposed-americas-phony-apostate-churches/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>deltaflt1189</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[EXPOSED! &#8211; America&#8217;s Apostate Churches! “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodice]]></description>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:Arial Black;font-size:large;"><span style="font-style:italic;color:#ff0000;">EXPOSED!</span> &#8211; America&#8217;s Apostate Churches!</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#ff0000;font-size:x-small;"><em>“</em><span style="font-size:xx-small;">And unto the  		angel of the church of the Laodiceans write&#8230; I know thy works, that  		thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then  		because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee  		out of my mouth.</span><em>”</em> —<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#000000;">Revelation 3:14-16</span></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/images/preacher-invert.gif" border="0" alt="" hspace="7" width="75" height="110" align="right" /> The Devil is sly and he uses the arrogance, greed and ignorance of religious  	men to blind them from the truth. Today&#8217;s evangelical circles are  	complacently apostate, completely silent regarding the evils plaguing  	America. It is tragic. All across America ministers are selling books and  	hosting pastor&#8217;s conventions, but they are virtually silent concerning the  	wickednesses of our society. It is apostasy. Every church in America ought to  	be crying aloud publicly against the evils of abortion, homosexuality,  	pornography, et cetera. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">I&#8217;m not endorsing 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/offend_them.htm#fp" target="_blank">Fred Phelps</a>, but  	his methods come MUCH closer to being right than most pastors in America who  	hide behind closed doors in their pompous arrogance. America needs more  	Billy Sundays, John the Baptists, George Whitefields and Jonathan Edwards.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">The Damnable World of Joel Osteen</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/joel_osteen-false_prophet.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="193" height="194" align="left" /><br />
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">God pity false  	prophets like Joel Osteen who never take a stand against sin. Mr. Osteen is  	nothing more than a greedy businessman and motivation speaker, and a  	disgrace to the name of Jesus Christ. John the Baptist could have trimmed  	his sermons, turned a blind eye to Herod&#8217;s adultery, avoided telling people  	they needed to repent; but he told the truth. In sharp contrast, Joel Osteen  	makes one <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:underline;">nauseous.</span> He doesn&#8217;t mention the word &#8220;repent&#8221; until after his  	sermonette is over, as to avoid offending anyone. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#ffffff;font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">2nd Timothy 4:3</span> perfectly  	describes Joel Osteen and his congregation&#8230; </span> <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">“</span><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">For  	the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their  	own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.</span></strong></span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><span style="color:#7f003f;">”</span><br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Joel Osteen is a greedy televangelist who&#8217;s afraid to tell the truth of  	God&#8217;s Word, lest he lose money. Judgment Day is coming&#8230; “<span style="font-size:xx-small;">And through  	covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose  	judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth  	not.</span>”<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Joel Osteen deceitfully brags of not taking a salary from his  	church, while making tens-of-millions of dollars from apostate book sales.  	Woe unto Joel and Victoria Osteen. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Would to God that Joel Osteen would tell people  	the truth, i.e., that they&#8217;re a bunch of dirty, rotten, hell-deserving  	sinners bound for hellfire in their sins. They&#8217;re GUILTY! Osteen alleges  	that people already know this; but they do not want to deal with the issue  	of sin, which is why they come to hear Osteen&#8217;s apostate sermons. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> In sharp contrast to Osteen&#8217;s milquetoast  	sermons, please read this brief excerpt from Jonathan  	Edward&#8217;s famous sermon, <em>SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD</em>&#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="line-height:200%;font-style:italic;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;color:#bf00bf;"><span style="font-size:small;">“The God that holds you  		over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome  		insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked: his wrath  		towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing  		else, but to be cast into the fire; he is of purer eyes than to bear to  		have you in his sight; you are ten thousand times more abominable in his  		eyes, than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have  		offended him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince;  		and yet it is nothing but his hand that holds you from falling into the  		fire every moment. It is to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did  		not go to hell the last night; that you was suffered to awake again in  		this world, after you closed your eyes to sleep. And there is no other  		reason to be given, why you have not dropped into hell since you arose  		in the morning, but that God&#8217;s hand has held you up. There is no other  		reason to be given why you have not gone to hell, since you have sat  		here in the house of God, provoking his pure eyes by your sinful wicked  		manner of attending his solemn worship. Yea, there is nothing else that  		is to be given as a reason why you do not this very moment drop down  		into hell.”</span></p>
<p style="line-height:200%;"><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#00ff00;font-size:x-small;">SOURCE: 		<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/sinners_in_the_hands_of_an_angry.htm" target="_blank"> SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD!</a> by Jonathan Edwards;</span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <span style="color:#00ff00;">preached in Enfield, Connecticut;  		July 8, 1741</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">If Joel Osteen preached a sermon like that,  	he&#8217;d lose half his congregation overnight. Today&#8217;s superior, arrogant,  	thin-skinned, pompous, selfish, spoiled rotten America is INTOLERANT to the  	truth. Woe unto America! 	<a style="font-weight:bold;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/souls_are_dying.htm" target="_blank">Souls are Dying</a> Joel.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">It was Billy Sunday, who nearly 100 years ago  	said&#8230; </span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">-<strong>Billy Sunday</strong>, <em>The Need  		for Revivals</em>, From<em> &#8220;Billy Sunday: The Man and His Message&#8221;</em>,  		by William T. Ellis, Philadelphia: John C. Winston Co., 1914</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#00ff00;font-size:x-small;"> </span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Evangelical Christianity today is more  	resemblant of the 1,200 lb. pig I saw at the<em> Wisconsin State Fair </em> many years ago. It seems that most pastors are only interested in obtaining  	more money&#8230;. gimme, gimme, gimme. It is not fair for a church congregation  	to have to finance the escapades of a pastor&#8217;s selfish interests. And then  	that pastor heads over to The Holy Land on vacation, while most of his  	church members can barely afford to drive to the next town. It is apostasy! </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">&#8220;Nevertheless among the chief rulers  		also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not  		confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue: For they  		loved the praise of men more than the praise of God&#8221;</span> (<span style="font-weight:bold;">John  		12:42,43</span>). </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">There were Pharisees who believed on Jesus; but  	were unwilling to take a stand for God for fear of losing the praise of men.  	This same cowardliness saturates evangelical circles today in America. The  	average Christian minister in America is afraid of losing the praise of men,  	which equates to loss of revenues. Shame on them! God must come first and  	His Word must be preached to the world.<br />
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<p style="font-weight:bold;text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">At Ease On Zion</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">It is sinful how so many ministry leaders today make frequent trips to Hawaii and the Holyland; while they do little to fight against sin, contend for the Christian faith by exposing false doctrines, and cry aloud against the wickednesses of our time. Sadly, the few pastors who do preach the truth are cowards, afraid to publicly take a stand, and the message never leaves the <a style="font-weight:bold;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/problem_with_christians.htm" target="_blank">comfort of  	their church walls</a>. It is apostasy!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Here is  	a lengthy list of compromised, apostate, milquetoast, ecumenical, prophets  	of Baal that I <strong>wouldn&#8217;t</strong> give you a dime for&#8230;</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Bob Bell, Doug Sager, J. Harold Smith,  		James Dobson, Chuck Swindoll, Charles Stanley, Alistair Begg, Dennis  		Rainey, Ron Stewart, Chip Ingram, Mart DeHann, Steve Brown, John  		MacArthur, David Jeremiah, Steve Arterburn, Sam Polson, Dan Corner, Adrian Rogers,  		Andrew Wommack, Chuck Bentley, Bil Gephardt, Fredrick Brabson Sr., RC Sproul, June Hunt,  		Hank Hanegraaff, Joni Eareckson Tada, Billy Graham, Franklin Graham, Ray  		Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Paul Washer, Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, and  		hundreds of others. </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">These ministers are what&#8217;s wrong with the  	church in America today!!! They are wishy-washy and never  	stick-their-neck-out for God. They don&#8217;t dare offend anyone, especially  	their peers in the ministry. They write scores of worthless books to  	inoculate people from receiving genuine Christianity. They all look and act  	like a bunch of spoiled elites. They&#8217;re all in the ministry to make a buck. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">We need some John the Baptists in America to  	cry aloud against Herod&#8217;s adultery (Mark 6:18)! We need some Billy Sundays  	to cry aloud against booze, dancing and gambling! Rise up oh Christian!  	Where are the men of God who hate sin and love the sinner? Where are the men  	of God who walk with God, and get ANGRY over the wickednesses of our society  	in which we live? Where are the men of God who are willing to be counted as  	a fool for the cause of Christ?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">All I see are these Shirley Temple,  	milquetoast, girly-boy types, like Joel Osteen who  	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/joel_osteen.htm" target="_blank">didn&#8217;t  	have enough gonads on the Larry King Show</a> to say that Christ-rejecting  	Jews weren&#8217;t going to Heaven. Truly the love of money is the root of all  	evil as <span style="font-weight:bold;">1st Timothy 6:10</span> warns. Joel Osteen couldn&#8217;t preach his way out of a  	paper bag. It makes God vomit&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">I know thy works, that thou art  	neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou  	art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth</span>&#8221;  	(<span style="font-weight:bold;">Revelation 3:15,16</span>). Joel Osteen is lukewarm.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Apostate RBC Ministries</span></strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">I was recently looking at different  	contemporary ministries online, including <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rbc.org/" target="_blank">RBC  	Ministries</a> whose President is Mart DeHaan (Martin DeHaan&#8217;s grandson).  	Sadly, they promote the <em>New International Version</em> [NIV] of the Bible on their website. By looking at their ministries&#8217;  	webpage, you&#8217;d never get the impression that they take a stand for anything.  	They&#8217;re just collecting donations. It makes me sick that hardly any  	Christians nowadays have anything negative to say about anything. What is  	wrong with Christians today? We are engrossed in a raging battle in America  	today against evil and all I see are covetous believers who want to make  	money. It seems that everyone&#8217;s got a &#8220;new&#8221; book to sell.  	They&#8217;re no better than the &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">den of thieves</span>&#8221; Jesus condemned in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew  	21:13</span>.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> It&#8217;s a shame. RBC Ministries didn&#8217;t forget the &#8220;donate&#8221; button  	though. Don&#8217;t any believers care that homosexuals are trying to force  	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/glsen_fistsex.htm" target="_blank">their sick culture</a> upon our children? Why doesn&#8217;t Mart DeHaan  	publicly speak out  	against this rot in America? What about abortion? What about pornography? It  	is apostasy. They drive their new cars, and live in their big homes, and eat  	the best of foods, and sit idle while their brothers are on the  	frontlines fighting the Devil&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Shall your brethren go to war, and  	shall ye sit here?</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Numbers 32:6</span>). Repent!<br />
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<p style="font-weight:bold;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:medium;">Apostate Moody Ministries</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><em><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mbi_corrupt.htm" target="_blank">Moody  	Bible Institute</a></em> is about as pathetic as you can get nowadays,  	honoring heretics like <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/macarthurs_words.htm" target="_blank">John  	MacArthur</a> at their annual <em>Founder&#8217;s Week </em>and teaching the heresy  	of <em><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Lordship%20Salvation/foolish.htm" target="_blank">Lordship Salvation</a></em> to their students. Their female students dress  	immodestly, wearing tight pants and halter tops, their bookstore sells  	so-called Christian Rock &#8216;N&#8217; Roll music (i.e., the Devil&#8217;s music) to the  	students, et cetera. This is apostasy! Moody today is a spiritual toilet  	bowl. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Whatever  	happened to the horses and carriages that Dwight L. Moody used to use to bring poor  	families to church in the Chicagoland area? Why no bus ministry today? Why  	has the <em>Moody Memorial Church</em> abandoned soulwinning? God deliver us  	from church-pew Christianity! The early believers in the Book of Acts DIDN&#8217;T  	have a church building. Their ministry was in the public streets of  	Jerusalem. They made people very angry with the truth of God&#8217;s Word. People  	either repented towards God or picked up stones to hurl at Jesus&#8217; disciples.  	How does this compare to the sissy-pants type ministers today who  	dare not rock-the-boat or offend anyone? 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/offend_them.htm" target="_blank">Offend Them!</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">If you&#8217;re a believer, and you&#8217;re sitting idle  	on the sidelines during the raging battle today in America against sin, then  	you ought to be ashamed. <span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 20:6</span>, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">And about the eleventh  	hour he [Jesus] went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto  	them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?</span>&#8221; 	Believers today need to 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/make_some_noise.htm" target="_blank">Make Some Noise!</a></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">There is something very wrong with America&#8217;s  	Christians today, who are eerily silent concerning the evils which saturate  	American society. God hates LUKEWARM Christianity (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Revelation 3:14-16</span>). </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Homosexuals are everywhere and we ought to  	expose them for the Bible-hating, abnormal, mentally ill and spiritually  	rebellious sinners they are. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/minor_concern.htm" target="_blank">Pastor Lon Solomon</a> says homosexuality and abortion are only &#8220;minor concerns&#8221; in his church of  	10,000. Youth Pastor, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/pastor_says_gay_ok.htm" target="_blank">Tony Jones</a>, says  	that he believes homosexuals can still live a Biblical lifestyle pleasing to  	God. Jones is an unsaved heretic. I don&#8217;t believe in condemning people,  	because the Bible condemns ALL OF US; but we need to protect our children  	from the evils of homosexuality and take an uncompromising stand against  	immorality! Homosexuality is immoral. No one has a right  	to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/glsen_fistsex.htm" target="_blank">teach children</a> that it&#8217;s ok to  	be IMMORAL. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">In 1998, Ellen DeGeneres exploited the murder  	of a <em>University of Wyoming</em> homosexual student named Matthew Shepard,  	using the boy&#8217;s death to demonize Bible-believing Christians. Read some of  	the hateful and malicious statement Ellen made publicly about Christians&#8230; </span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Ellen DeGeneres came to Washington last  		week, joined a bipartisan demonstration led by congressmen and senators  		on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, and declared, &#8220;This is a war.&#8221; Who is  		she fighting and why? She is fighting you because of what you believe&#8230;</span></span></p>
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<div><span style="color:#00ff00;font-size:x-small;"> <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">The &#8220;war&#8221; that  									Ellen DeGeneres talked about was a war  									against Jewish and Christian belief itself. </span> </span></p>
<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Listen to what  									she said to a crowd of several thousand as  									the beautiful dome of the U.S. Capitol  									loomed brightly above her on a crisp autumn  									evening. </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">&#8220;This is what I  									was trying to stop. This is exactly why I  									did what I did,&#8221; DeGeneres told the cheering  									throng, referring to the canceled prime-time  									television show in which she tried to  									normalize the practice of homosexuality. </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">She made it  									clear that her principal enemy in this cause  									is the &#8220;religious right,&#8221; Christianity in  									general, and people who raise their children  									to think that homosexual activity is wrong. </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">First, she  									attacked a series of newspaper ads published  									last summer by the Christian Coalition, the  									Family Research Council, the American Family  									Association and a dozen other Christian  									organizations-ads that promoted the idea  									that those who have fallen into a homosexual  									lifestyle can rise out of it and change for  									the better. </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;I don&#8217;t see  									full-page ads saying `Stop the Hate, Stop  									the Violence.&#8221;</span></span> said DeGeneres. <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;"><br />
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;These  									same evil, idiotic, so-called God-loving  									people who use the Bible to justify their  									hate I&#8217;m sure still feel deep down  									that blacks aren&#8217;t equal to whites because  									the Bible was also used to justify slavery.&#8221;</span></span> </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">She then compared such people to Hitler 									and those who were complicit in the  									Holocaust. <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;When Hitler was killing all the  									Jews,&#8221;</span></span> she said, <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;the church was silent,  									they did nothing.&#8221;</span></span> </span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Then she made  									her fundamental point:  									Children should be taught that the  									homosexual lifestyle is a good thing.<br />
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;Please raise your children with love and  									not judgment,&#8221; </span></span><br />
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<p style="color:#7f003f;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">DeGeneres  									stomped off to the wings to hug and kiss  									Hollywood actress Ann Heche. Heche mounted  									the stage and shouted, <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;I am so glad to be  									Ellen DeGeneres&#8217;s wife.&#8221;</span></span> [emphasis added]<br />
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<p><span style="color:#00ff00;font-size:x-small;"> </span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> <span style="color:#00ff00;">SOURCE:</span><span style="color:#7f003f;"> </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_199810/ai_n8815714" target="_blank"><span style="color:#7f003f;"> </span><span style="font-weight:bold;">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_199810/ai_n8815714</span></a></span></div>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Such deranged statements coming from one of  	America&#8217;s most influential lesbians ought to upset every born-again  	Christian in America. Ellen DeGeneres (or degenerate) calls God-fearing  	Christians <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">“evil, idiotic and hateful.”</span></span><br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"> She&#8217;s the evil idiot. Only a  	complete fool would spit in God&#8217;s face by condemning Bible-believing  	Christians for preaching <span style="text-decoration:underline;">against</span> sin. Homosexuality is a horrible sin which  	guarantees the judgment of God (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Romans 1:24-32</span>). </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Children ought to be taught that homosexuality  	is sick, abnormal, shameful, unnatural, morally reprehensible and most of  	all&#8230; a SIN. What DeGeneres labels as “hate” is obedience to God. <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ephesians  	5:11</span> commands all believers to refute (Greek:<em> elencho</em>, which means  	“<span style="font-size:xx-small;">to expose</span>”) all works of darkness&#8230; “<span style="font-size:xx-small;">And have no fellowship with the  	unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.</span>” This means  	we are to expose homosexuality for the vile, disgusting, shameful, unhealthy  	sin that it is. Ellen DeGeneres errantly calls this idiotic and evil. No  	Ellen, you are a God-hating rebel who chooses to live in unrepentant sin.  	Proverb 29:27 proclaims, “<span style="font-size:xx-small;">An unjust man is an abomination to the just:  	and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.</span>”  	This is the root of the matter. Christians are evil in the eyes of  	homosexuals, and homosexuals are evil in the eyes of Christians. There can  	be NO harmony between sodomites and born-again Christians who love the Word  	of God. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Sadly, America&#8217;s churches are virtually silent  	concerning the evils of homosexuality. Ellen DeGeneres needs to be exposed  	as a threat to America&#8217;s children. Several Fortune 500 companies have  	embraced Miss DeGeneres, featuring her in commercials. This is wickedness.  	<span style="font-weight:bold;">Proverb 26:1</span> states, “<span style="font-size:xx-small;">As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so  	honour is not seemly for a fool.</span>” Ellen DeGeneres is a fool  	undeserving of any honor; yet Godless heathens who hate Jesus Christ  	sinfully promote and honor her. Ellen DeGeneres is a disgrace to America and  	to the name of decency. It&#8217;s not about love and acceptance; it&#8217;s about  	obeying God&#8217;s morally perfect Law. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">God wants His children to rise out of  	complacency, and not be lukewarm concerning sin. We must not be afraid to  	speak our opinion in public concerning the awfulness of sin. I complain  	frequently when I see smut and offensive things in public. I let people know  	where I stand. Of course, we need to discern each situation and use wisdom  	accordingly.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">It appears that most believers today have given up on the war against sin and evil.  	Even America&#8217;s <em>Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches</em> (my camp)  	have become a sorry bunch, increasingly focusing upon making money rather  	than preaching the truth at all cost. You CAN&#8217;T have both!&#8230;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Pastor&#8217;s are either going to preach the truth  	and end up struggling financially (like the Apostle Paul did) or else  	they&#8217;re going to sellout, compromise their message, suppress the truth, and  	appeal to the apostate, thin-skinned, woefully ignorant, carnal believer  	which saturate our churches today. God is sick of vacationing pastors and  	church-pew Christianity! If your pastor vacations often, while 95% of his  	church cannot afford to do so, find another church! A pastor is supposed to  	be a <em>servant</em>, which is what the word “minister” means. Most pastors  	today selfishly hound their congregation for more money, but the pastor and  	his family always seem to come out on top financially in the end. It&#8217;s  	called manipulating people and it&#8217;s wrong. God deliver us from shady  	car-salesman pastors. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">Some pastors and evangelists teach bizarre  	unbiblical ideas concerning money&#8230; whatever it takes to brainwash naive  	people into surrendering their money to finance his own personal ministry  	agendas. Too many pastors today are enslaved to their own carnal ego,  	saturated with selfish pride and covetousness; but spiritually in denial,  	evidenced by their intense desire for financial success and unwillingness to  	humble themselves to preach the WHOLE truth. Money shouldn&#8217;t be an issue in  	one&#8217;s ministry; but sadly, it has become the MAIN ISSUE in most churches  	today (at the tragic expense of preaching the truth)! It is God&#8217;s ministry;  	not ours! Somewhere along the way believers have forgotten that it&#8217;s our  	duty to seek out, teach and defend THE TRUTH&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">And ye shall know the  	truth, and the truth shall make you free</span></span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">John 8:32</span>). God expects  	every believer to contend for the Christian faith (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Jude 1:3</span>). </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;"><strong>There is a direct correlation between a  	pastor&#8217;s LOVE FOR MONEY versus the AMOUNT OF TRUTH HE PREACHES! </strong> Tragically, most of today&#8217;s evangelical ministers love money more than  	truth, which is why they&#8217;re so publicly silent concerning sin, the moral  	meltdown of America and the blatant evils being committed by our government  	leaders. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:x-small;">A believer&#8217;s love for the Lord Jesus Christ can only truly be measured by  	one&#8217;s hatred for sin and evil&#8230; “<strong><em>Ye that love the LORD, hate evil&#8230;</em></strong>”</span></p>
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<p align="center"><span style="font-family:Arial Black;font-size:x-large;"><span style="font-style:italic;color:#ff0000;">EXPOSED!</span> &#8211; Kittredge </span></p>
<p align="center"><span style="font-family:Arial Black;font-size:x-large;">Cherry:      Lesbian, Modernist, </span></p>
<p align="center"><span style="font-family:Arial Black;font-size:x-large;">False Prophet, &#38; A Deceiver!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#ff0000;font-size:x-small;">&#8220;</span></strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#ff0000;font-size:xx-small;">But      there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be      false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even      denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift      destruction.</span><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#ff0000;font-size:x-small;">&#8221; —</span></strong><span style="color:#ff0000;font-weight:bold;font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:small;">2nd Peter 2:1</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> A popular modernist today is ordained lesbian    minister, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesusinlove.org/" target="_blank">Kittredge Cherry</a>. According to her blasphemous website at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesusinlove.org/" target="_blank"> www.jesusinlove.org</a>&#8230;</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> <span> <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/kittredge_cherry-modernist.jpg" border="0" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="3" width="140" height="181" align="left" /></span></span><span style="color:#00ff00;"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;"><span>Kittredge Cherry </span>is an author, spiritual director and art historian whose ministry put  	her on the cutting edge of the homosexuality debates at the National Council  	of Churches (USA) and the World Council of Churches. She is the motivational  	force behind <strong>JesusInLove.org.</strong> Kittredge Cherry was ordained by  	Metropolitan Community Churches and served as clergy in the lesbian, gay,  	bisexual and transgender community for seven years until health issues  	forced her into a more contemplative life. She worked extensively with  	people from every branch of Christianity, including the Protestant,  	Catholic, Orthodox and Evangelical traditions. She now considers herself a  	free agent for Christ in the world.</span></span></p>
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<p style="color:#c00000;"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;">One of Kitt’s biological and spiritual  	ancestors is John Donne, the 17th century English poet and clergyman who  	wrote, “No man is an island.” Kitt was born and raised in Iowa. She met her  	life partner, Audrey, when they were both students at the University of  	Iowa. After earning degrees in journalism and art history, Kitt worked as a  	newspaper reporter and studied in Japan on a Rotary International Journalism  	Scholarship. She was baptized at age 25 at an interdenominational church in  	Japan. She went on to earn a Master of Divinity degree from Pacific School  	of Religion in Berkeley, California.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">From looking at Ms. Cherry&#8217;s     <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sylvia.org/" target="_blank">website</a>, you could easily get the    impression that she is a Christian if you didn&#8217;t know any better.  She    speaks of Jesus, love, prayer, and spiritual matters; HOWEVER, the honest    truth is that Kittredge Cherry is a modernist, i.e., she falsely gives the    impression of being a Christian, but she is not.  Ms. Cherry is an    unsaved heathen bound for the lake of Fire without Christ.  Her salvation    testimony is non-existent.  Her website mentions that she was baptized in    Japan.  This is not salvation.  Ms. Cherry makes no mention of being    born-again, or of repentance towards God, or of the condemnation of God&#8217;s Law    upon sinners.  Our churches are becoming saturated with liberalism, with    a shallow social gospel that requires no repentance.  There can be NO    salvation apart from God&#8217;s Law.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">In a deceitful maneuver, Ms. Cherry presents      her homosexual views in a hypothetical manner; yet, her work is interpreted      by homosexuals as defining the true character of Christ.  <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:underline;">This is      masterful deception of the Devil.</span> </span></p>
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<blockquote><p><img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/jesusinlove-blasphemy.jpg" border="0" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="3" width="187" height="298" align="right" /><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;color:#00ff00;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;"><span>&#8220;Surprising answers</span> come in Jesus in        Love,</span><span style="color:#bf00bf;font-style:italic;"><span style="font-size:small;"> a novel that re-imagines Christ’s legendary life as an erotic, mystical adventure in first-century Palestine. Jesus has today’s queer sensibilities and sexual sophistication as he lives out the Christian story in this novel of spiritual and sexual awakening &#8230; He falls in love with people of both sexes. Society doesn’t understand him &#8230; Jesus, the narrator, speaks in an engaging, up-to-date tone as he reveals his intimate relationships with John the beloved disciple (a gay man mourning his lover’s death)&#8230;&#8221; -</span> </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesusinlove.org/newbook.php" target="_blank"> http://www.jesusinlove.org/newbook.php</a></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">There are some horrible people in this world,        and Kittredge Cherry is one of them.  I say this, not to be unkind,        but to expose her for assassinated the character of my Savior, Jesus        Christ.  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hebrews 1:9</span> tells us that Jesus HATED iniquity!  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Psalm        97:10</span> says, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Ye that love the LORD, hate evil.</span>&#8220;  I&#8217;ve yet to        find one homosexual who speaks out against evil.  The reason why is        obvious&#8211;they are committing evil themselves.  Homosexuality is a        sin.  The entire Chapter of Romans one is dedicated to revealing the        origin, cause, and wickedness of homosexuality.  Yet, Ms. Cherry        fully rejects the plain teachings of Scripture, and puts forth the notion        that Jesus and John the disciple were homosexual lovers.  There&#8217;s        nothing any more blasphemous and rotten to say about the Savior than what        Kittredge Cherry has said.  She ought to be horribly ashamed of        herself for attacking the Lord.  Ms. Cherry goes on to state&#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="color:#c00000;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Bookman Old Style;font-size:small;">&#8220;Ultimately he       [Jesus] leads disciples of both sexes beyond        ordinary human consciousness to a place where sexuality and spirituality        are one.</span><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">&#8221; </span> <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;">(emphasis added) </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;color:#00ff00;">-       <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www..jesusinlove.org/newbook.php" target="_blank"> http://www.jesusinlove.org/newbook.php</a></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Blasphemy!  Miss Cherry would lead us to        believe that homosexuality is of God, and spiritually good.  Nothing        could be further from the Truth of God&#8217;s Word&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">If a man also lie        with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an        abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be        upon them</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Leviticus 20:13</span>).<br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#00ff00;"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;">Cutting-edge theology, medieval mysticism and the latest archeological        discoveries undergird this artful page-turner filled with spiritual        insights and sensuality. <em>Jesus in Love</em> frees the reader to imagine        and experience Christ in new ways. </span> <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;color:#00ff00;"><span style="color:#c00000;">- </span> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesusinlove.org/newbook.php" target="_blank"> http://www.jesusinlove.org/newbook.php</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">You&#8217;ve got to be kidding&#8230; CUTTING-EDGE        THEOLOGY?  Do you see how deceptive Miss Cherry is?  She        presents her attack on the Bible as if it&#8217;s fiction, but then she claims        to have used &#8220;cutting-edge theology&#8221; to do so.  So the SAME        blasphemous work she presents to the homosexual community as a definitive        work, is simultaneously presented to the religious right as only being a        fictitious novel.  This is the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">same</span> deceitful tactic which was used by the        evolutionists when they began teaching their LIES.  What was        originally taught as theories and speculation is nowadays taught as fact        and irrefutable science.  Of course, the evolutionists are LIARS. </span><br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">The artwork to the right is also found on        JesusInLove.org (Ms. Kittredge website).  The painting was designed        to identify a rejected Christ with rejected homosexuals.  The message        is evil, unbiblical, and blasphemous to God Almighty!  This is        another master deception by Satan to dupe naive people into believing that        homosexuals are equal to Jesus in their sufferings.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> Jesus was        persecuted because He preached the TRUTH&#8230; <span style="font-weight:bold;">John 8:40</span>, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">But now ye seek        to kill me, a man that hath <strong>told you the truth</strong>, which I have heard        of God: this did not Abraham.</span>&#8220;  Jesus was rejected by most people        because He spoke the Truth!  Homosexuals on the other hand, are not        accepted because homosexuality is unhealthy, unnatural, uncivilized, and        ungodly!!!  We&#8217;re talking apples and oranges here folks.  How        dare Becki Jayne, Kittredge Cherry, and other homosexuals, pervert the        meaning of the cross of Christ, by alleging that their rejection is no        different than what Jesus endured.  Homosexuality MUST be rejected        because it goes hand-in-hand with apostasy, AIDS, the deterioration of        society, and the judgment of God.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">I find the artwork above very offensive and        blasphemous.  Jesus was <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> a &#8220;faggot.&#8221;  The message        being implied by the above picture is that any criticisms or rejection of        homosexuality is equal to Christ-rejection..  Talk about        REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY!  Homosexuality is DIAMETRICALLY opposed to        everything the Word of God teaches!  The Bible is incontrovertible        concerning the sinfulness of homosexuality.  Any child knows that it        was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.  God called homosexuals        &#8220;sodomites&#8221; in the Old Testament (<em>King James Bible</em>), linking their        wicked sin with the destruction which fell upon Sodom and Gomorrah.         Is it any wonder why the apostate <em>New International Version</em> NIV        translators completely <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/sodomite_missing_from_niv.htm" target="_blank"> removed the word &#8220;sodomite&#8221; from the Bible</a>?  To no surprise, the       <span style="text-decoration:underline;">same</span> parent company which publishes the NIV also publishes <em> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/niv-gay-satan.htm" target="_blank">The Joy of Gay Sex</a></em>.         A homosexual recently wrote me, alleging that <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ezekiel 16:49-50</span> indicates        that Sodom wasn&#8217;t destroyed mainly for homosexuality.  Argue as they        may, the hideous sin which is spotlighted in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Genesis 19:4-11</span> is        homosexuality.  By the way, these same Scriptures in Genesis reveal        the violence, lawlessness, cold-heartedness, and vile affections which        become more evident in a homosexualized society.  The United States        is headed for some dark times as homosexuality saturates our society and        churches.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size:small;"><strong><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Photo to Left: A popular gay  	painting of Judas showing homosexual affection to Christ.  This is a sick, twisted LIE!</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Anyone who pretends that Jesus was a homosexual is a  	deceiver!</span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:medium;"> </span> <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> Judas did <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> kiss Jesus with  	homosexual affection.  Jesus and John were <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> gay lovers!</span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> Kittredge Cherry&#8217;s new book, <em> Jesus In Love</em>, presents Jesus and John as gay lovers.  Kittredge        Cherry is unjust towards the Savior.  She admits that she CAN&#8217;T prove        Jesus was homosexual, but she writes a fictitious novel attacking Him        nevertheless.  She has assassinated Jesus&#8217; character!  Woe unto  	those who attack the Lord, and take His name in vain!  To say that  	Christ was a homosexual is the same as calling Him a sinner, which is a  	denial of His deity.  Jesus hated iniquity (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Hebrews 1:9</span>).  The  	Word of God states that <span style="font-size:xx-small;">homosexuality is an ABOMINATION</span> (i.e., hate coupled  	with disgust) to God.  <span style="text-decoration:underline;font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">Homosexuality is utterly </span><span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">disgusting</span><span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Here&#8217;s an enlightening article from 	<em>World Net Daily</em> about expert liars, who know that the best way to destroy  an innocent man, is to tell BIG LIES &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="color:#c00000;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">In his 1925 autobiography &#8220;Mein Kampf,&#8221; Hitler – who actually 		<em>did</em> lie his country into war, and a whole lot more – explained with remarkable      insight the fantastic power of lying: </span></p>
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<p style="font-style:italic;color:#bf00bf;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:small;">&#8220;… [I]n the big lie there is always a certain        force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more        easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than        consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their        minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie,        since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be        ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.. It would never come into        their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe        that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.        Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to        their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think        that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie        always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact        which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire        together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use        falsehood for the basest purposes. &#8230;&#8221;</span></p>
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<p style="color:#c00000;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Let&#8217;s bring this explanation down to earth with another example:  		Suppose, right before an election, one candidate accuses his opponent of  		immoral or illegal behavior. Even if the charges are totally false, and  		even if the accused answers the charges credibly and effectively, <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">&#8220;the  		grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it.&#8221; Which means, no  		matter how effectively the accused candidate answers the charges, some  		people will still believe he&#8217;s guilty, and many others will still retain  		varying degrees of doubt and uncertainty regarding the accused, who may  		well lose the election due to the cloud hanging over his head. This, as  		Hitler said, is the magic of lying that &#8220;is known to all expert liars in  		this world …</span>&#8221; </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Liars!  Jesus was <span style="text-decoration:underline;">NOT</span> a        homosexual.  If you listen to all these idiots today who are        promoting homosexuality, you&#8217;d think <span style="text-decoration:underline;">everyone</span> was a homosexual.         Homosexuality is a total denial of Jesus Christ!  To deny the clear        teachings of the Word of God is to deny Christ, for they are one and the        same (<span style="font-weight:bold;">John1:1-3,14; Revelation 19:13</span>).  Jesus is the Living Word; the        Bible is the Written Word.  Woe unto the fools who despise God&#8217;s Law.         Homosexuals are a perverted bunch.  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Isaiah 47:10</span>, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">For thou hast        trusted in thy wickedness&#8230; Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath        perverted thee&#8230;</span>&#8220;  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Isaiah 5:20</span>, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><strong>Woe unto them that call        evil good, and good evil</strong>; that put darkness for light, and light for        darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!</span>&#8220;  &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">God        will not be mocked.</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Galatians 6:7</span>)! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s fictitious or not,        anyone who even suggests that my precious Savior may have been a morally  		reprehensible        homosexual is a LIAR!<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Sound crazy?  It is, about as crazy as        the title of one of Kittredge Cherry&#8217;s books called: <em>Equal Rites:        Lesbian and Gay Worship, Ceremonies, and Celebrations</em>.  Even the        title of her book is a big lie!  There is NO such thing as <em>lesbian        and gay worship</em>&#8230; unless you&#8217;re worshipping Satan!  Now a        lesbian may come to Christ for forgiveness, and be saved, and worship        Jesus; BUT, it is NOT &#8220;lesbian worship&#8221; anymore than king David practiced        &#8220;murderer worship.&#8221;  King David had sinned horribly.  He        committed adultery with Bathsheba, and got her pregnant.   To        hide his evil, David conspired to have Uriah&#8211;Bathsheba&#8217;s husband&#8211;killed        (and he was).  In <span style="font-weight:bold;">Psalm 51</span> we read David&#8217;s words of sorrow, regret,        and repentance for the evils he had done.  In sharp contrast,        homosexuals today have <span style="text-decoration:underline;">no</span> remorse, regret, or desire to cease from        their sinful lifestyle.  In fact, they are trying to JUSTIFY their        wickedness, even by corrupting the Bible to do so (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Romans 1:25</span>).         King David didn&#8217;t write a book titled, <em>Murderer Worship!!! </em> How about a book called, <em>Adulterous Murderer Worship? </em>This is        EXACTLY what Ms. Cherry has done with the woeful sin of homosexuality.         David didn&#8217;t brag about his sins and defend his innocence; rather, he        confessed his woeful GUILT to God in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Psalm 51:4</span>&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Against thee, thee        only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest        be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.</span>&#8220;         David repented.  In sharp contrast, UNREPENTANT religious homosexuals        have crept into our churches and colleges, shaking young people&#8217;s faith in        the Word of God.  Homosexuality is of the Devil.<br />
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Kittredge Cherry loves with her words, but not      with the Truth of God&#8217;s Word.   She certainly is NO Christian.  When       speaks of the &#8220;spirit,&#8221; she is speaking of a familiar spirit (a demonic      spirit); not, the Holy Spirit of God.  Jesus clearly said in <span style="font-weight:bold;">John 4:24</span> that <span style="font-size:xx-small;">God can ONLY be worshipped in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">truth</span></span>.  This is why Jesus      said that the people in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mark 7:7</span> were worshipping God in VAIN, because they      were following the traditions of men instead of the commandments of God.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Homosexuals today are living in denial, and God      allows them to do so to their own demise.  God will <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> force      anyone to repent and come to Jesus Christ for salvation.  The decision      is up to each individual (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Romans 14:12</span>).  The homosexual community is      working relentlessly to pervert the Word of God, twist the truth, and      confuse public school children.  They are succeeding; but thank God,      the truth is always here for those who care enough to seek for it.<br />
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<p style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:large;">More on Kittredge Cherry</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#00ff00;"><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> <span> <span style="color:#c00000;">Kittredge  	Cherry is an author and mystic whose ministry put her on the cutting edge of  	the international debate on sexuality and spirituality. Her website,  	JesusInLove.org, offers LGBT Christian resources. Kitt was ordained by  	Metropolitan Community Churches (MCC) and served as clergy in the LGBT  	community for seven years until health issues forced her into a more  	contemplative life. One of her primary duties was promoting dialogue on  	homosexuality at the National Council of Churches (USA) and the World  	Council of Churches. She worked extensively with people from every branch of  	Christianity, including the Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox and Evangelical  	traditions. She now considers herself a free agent for Christ in the world.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#00ff00;"> </span><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"> <span> <span style="color:#00ff00;">Her  	books include <span style="font-size:small;"><em>&#8220;Equal Rites: Lesbian and Gay Worship, Ceremonies and  	Celebrations&#8221;</em></span> (co-edited with Zalmon Sherwood; Westminster/John Knox  	Press, 1995), <em>Hide and Speak:  <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">&#8220;How to Free Ourselves from Our Secrets&#8221;</span></span></em> (HarperSanFrancisco, 1991) and <em>Womansword:  What Japanese Words Say  	About Women</em> (Kodansha International, revised edition 2002). The <em>New  	York Times Book Review</em> praised her &#8220;very graceful, erudite&#8221; writing  	style and her poetry has won several awards.  She has also written for <em> Newsweek</em> and <em>The Wall Street Journal</em>.</span><span style="color:#c00000;"> </span>-</span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lgbtran.org/Profile.aspx?A=E&#38;ID=140" target="_blank">Profile &#8211; LGBTRAN</a></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Homosexuality is a horrible sin condemned in  	Romans Chapter one.</span><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style;"><em> </em>Kittredge  	Cherry<em> &#8220;<span style="font-size:small;">considers herself a free agent for Christ in the world&#8221;</span> </em></span> <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">(<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesusinlove.org/" target="_blank">SOURCE</a>)<em>. </em>A &#8220;<span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">free agent for Christ,</span>&#8221; who goes around portraying Jesus as a  	homosexual?  Miss Kittredge is clearly an unsaved modernist who  	propagates religious liberalism.  She ought to be ashamed of herself.   	God deliver us from today&#8217;s modernists who outwardly appear as Christians,  	but inwardly are ravening wolves (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 7:15</span>).  We are seeing an  	increase in UNREPENTANT homosexuals who claim to be &#8220;Christians.&#8221;   	Truly, God is willing to forgive anyone (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Isaiah 1:18</span>), including  	homosexuals.  God wants everyone to come to 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/Doctrines/repentance.htm" target="_blank">repentance</a> (<span style="font-weight:bold;">2nd Peter 3:9</span>).  However, God will NEVER accept homosexuality or those  	seeking to legitimize it.  That&#8217;s the big difference!  You&#8217;ve got  	many critics today who accuse us Christians of being judgmental.   	However, Jesus told us to &#8220;judge&#8221; in <span style="font-weight:bold;">John 7:24</span>&#8230; &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Judge not according to  	the appearance, <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">but judge</span> righteous judgment.</strong></span>&#8220;  <span style="font-weight:bold;">1st  	Timothy 5:20</span> is very clear, &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Them that sin rebuke before all, that others  	also may fear.</span>&#8220;  What does this Scripture mean?  Are we to  	gossip and tell everyone about other&#8217;s sins?  No, of course not.   	This Scripture is speaking of OPEN sin, such as in the case of the man  	living in fornication in <span style="font-weight:bold;">1st Corinthians 5:1</span>, <span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;">&#8220;It is reported <span style="text-decoration:underline;">commonly</span> that there is fornication among you&#8230;&#8221;</span> Notice that the sin was  	&#8220;commonly&#8221; reported, i.e., it was no secret.  Kittredge Cherry not only  	commits the sin of homosexuality with her gay lover, but she parades it  	defiantly in the face of God, twisting the Scriptures, and even portraying  	the Savior as a sodomite.  Kittredge Cherry&#8217;s work,<em> <span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">&#8220;Jesus In Love&#8221;</span></span></em> is not about &#8220;love&#8221;, acceptance, and equal rights&#8211;it&#8217;s about wickedness,  	corrupting the truth, and rebellion against God.  Please don&#8217;t be  	deceived by Kittredge Cherry, 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/marsha_stevens.htm" target="_blank">Marsha Stevens</a>, 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/christian_lesbian_living.htm" target="_blank"> Anita Cadonau</a>, and other lesbian modernists who exploit Christianity to  	further the 	<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/teaching_kids_gay_sex.htm" target="_blank"> Homosexualization</a> of America and our children. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"> <span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>A disciple</strong></span> was a general term meaning, a learner, or a pupil of some teacher. The Disciples of Yahshua, were to proclaim the Gospel<span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong> </strong></span>[the good news] of the Kingdom of YAHWEH, and “to feed MY sheep” (which means <em>teaching</em> the Divine knowledge needed to develop in grace, spiritual knowledge, and GODLY character). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>It has been suggested, </strong></span>that these dozen “called out” disciple&#8217;s of Yahshua had more impact on world history then any other group of twelve men who have ever lived.<span> </span>Yahshua did not choose men from “the holier than thou” crowd, and they were not high society types.<span> </span>They were common working men.<span> </span>From tentmaker to fisherman, Yahshua “called out” men that generally were not at all refined, cultured or educated.<span> </span>They were rough men living rough lives, they would use profanity, smelled of fish and were dirty.<span> </span>Another Disciple was a tax collector, not necessarily the most popular man in town.<span> </span>They are listed in Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19; Luke 6:12-16. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;"> <strong>A point often missed is</strong> that YAHWEH, always as a principal, used plain people to carry out important spiritual missions, and Yahshua did the same.  Today’s social snobbishness would find these ordinary men, who were laborers for a living, and then took up “the work” of preaching a Great Message, unacceptable as ministers.  Not to mention inviting them into your home and listening to their spiritual concepts, and then wanting to join up with them.  Yet they have the highest positions in the church.  The lesson is, YAHWEH judges the heart not outside appearances. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;"> <strong>When the righteous hearts of the Disciples</strong> were empowered by the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, these rough-hewn Galileans, were filled with new boldness and understanding, (Act.ch.2).  Transformed and powered by the Holy Spirit, the Disciples became Apostles, which means sent forth &#8211; one chosen and sent with a special commission as an authorized representative of the sender.  They preached with power and boldness, performing healings and miracles.  Their appeal for the faith was irresistible, and their zeal for the Gospel was powerful, inspiring thousands to convert. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Ambassadors of the Kingdom</strong></span> is what the true Believers are considered to be (2Cor.5:20).<span> </span>The prime directive of Ambassadorship: Love your GOD, and love your neighbor.<span> </span>And, <em>“. . . forgive them for they know not what they do . . .,“</em> is the motto (Luk.23:34).<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>To be an Ambassador of the Kingdom</strong> means you are a Friend of the Kingdom, not a servant to it.<span> </span>The Believers are considered Friends because of the Divine Knowledge revealed to them, (Jno.15:15). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The Believers know Satan is the target of this spiritual war not our neighbor, (Eph.6:12).<span> </span>Satan is the god of this world, and the Believers in our CREATOR are “living in their native lands &#8211; but as aliens.”<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>The Believers are “in this world, but not of this world.”</strong><span> </span>The Believers are citizens of the Heavenly Kingdom of YAHWEH (Phi.3:20), fellow citizens with the Old Testament Saints (Eph.2:19) &#8211; under the authority of the Messiah.<span> </span>They follow local customs in clothing, food, and other aspects of life &#8211; but as citizens of the Heavenly Kingdom, they are only passing their days on Earth.<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>Knowin’ is the easy part!<em><span> </span></em></strong>This is not a church of potted plants.<span> </span>The citizens are Ambassadors of the Kingdom and represent their Government.<span> </span>This is not a passive role.<span> </span>It is a pro-active role.<span> </span>They live by example and share the spiritual truths that they have learned, using clear and simple language &#8211; not political style double-talk (Mat.5:37). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><strong>They are “present in the flesh” &#8211; but do not live “according to the flesh.”</strong><span> </span>They obey man&#8217;s laws &#8211; but go beyond that and follow the Heavenly Laws in their own lives.<span> </span>They are treated with outrageous disrespect &#8211; but behave respectfully and bless those in return.<span> </span>They are dishonored and their names blackened &#8211; but they gain glory through dishonor, and their names are cleared in the Heavenly Book of Life.<span> </span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>The first rapture-event described in the Bible</strong> is when Enoch was caught up to Heaven before the flood (Gen.5:24).<span> </span>Another rapture happened with Elijah described in 2Kings 2:17, <em>“Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”</em><span> </span>This belief of a rapture-event is also what numerous documents from the early church leaders (first 300 years) revealed.<span> </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> <strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">During this Age of Grace,</span></strong> the Messiah is calling out disciples to help Him rule the earth during His Millennium reign. </span>These called-out ones are known as “the Bride of the Messiah or Christ.”<span> </span>The true Believers of the Messiah are called three things in the New Testament: The Church, in Acts 2:47.<span> </span>The Body of Christ, in 1Corinthians 12:13.<span> </span>And, “the Bride,” in John 3:29.<span> </span>It refers to a great mystery told as an allegory of a symbolic union of husband and wife in Ephesians 5:25-32.<span> </span>An allegory, is a story that symbolically represents another meaning other than what is apparently stated.<span> </span>Yahshua used this teaching technique in His parables, to teach complex Heavenly lessons by comparing them to simple everyday objects. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#808080;">(<strong>Just for the record</strong>, and to avoid confusion, all those humans who did not know the Messiah, or were not chosen by the Him, or chose not commit themselves to the higher Covenants, will sleep until the time of the final Great White Throne Judgment of YAHWEH, after the earthly 1,000 year millennial rule of the Messiah. For more info. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeworship101.com/bb-c12_judgment_day.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0066cc;">click here</span></a>.) </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">The question</span></strong> every Believer ponders is, how many people will be called-out by Yahshua?<span> </span>Some say tens of millions of people will be called, and the puritans would say the numbers are much smaller.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>Some say the term Christian has already been ruined</strong> by its many pretenders, maybe so, but then every religion has its pretenders and hucksters.<span> </span>In surveys taken in the United States and Canada almost 80% of the people responded saying they are Christian.<span> </span>But when asked the following: Do you believe the Bible to be the inspired word of GOD?<span> </span>Do you study the Bible?<span> </span>Do you believe in creation?<span> </span>Do you believe in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ?<span> </span>Do you believe in His blood atonement for sin?<span> </span>Then the numbers drop to about 13% of those claiming to be believing Christians.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong><a rel="nofollow">A hint can be found</a></strong> in Yahshuas’ messages to the seven churches in Revelation ch.2-3.<span> </span>Out of the seven churches only one was commended by Him.<span> </span>There is one revealing passage in Revelation 3:15-16 <em>“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot.<span> </span>I could wish you were cold or hot.<span> </span>So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.”</em><span> </span>In simpler terms just going through the motions is not enough. </span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">(For more info see <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeworship101.com/wp_ego_religion.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0066cc;">Ego Religion</span></a>.)</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>Throughout the ages, there are always a lot of debate and doctrine among the Christian churches on how to get to Heaven.<span> </span>Today, surveys generally show that over 85% of Americans think they will go to Heaven, but only about 40% think their neighbor will get in.<span> </span>Why does it seem like the standard is always higher for those who live next door?<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>It is a thorny issue, and since I am not compiling the list, we will leave that debate to others . . .. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><strong>YAHWEH knows your heart</strong> and HE knows who the Believers are.<span> </span>When Elijah went out into the desert to escape persecution and said, “I am alone.”<span> </span>YAHWEH answered, “No, I have 7,000 Believers here” (1Kgs.19:18).<span> </span>When the Holy Spirit came upon the assembly on Pentecost described in Acts ch.2, HE knew exactly how many Believers there were.<span> </span>While Paul was teaching at the city of Corinth, he was afraid and thought it was hopeless, but he was told there were Believers there and he should continue his work (Act.18:10). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>The Age of Grace closes</strong> </span>when the hinderer (or the &#8220;intolerant ones&#8221;) is removed (2Ths.2:7).<span> </span>The term hinderer (some Bibles use the word restrainer, Jno.14:8), is a curious word used to describe the Holy Spirit that dwells within the true Believers of Yahshua.<span> </span>It can be any human being from, any domination, any nation, any ethnic origin, male or female, on the planet Earth.<span> </span>These are the intolerant ones &#8211; fighting for freedom &#8211; and they are the only power that is holding back or hindering the dark forces of evil. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>When the hinderer is removed,</strong> then the world will propel itself into a period of seven years of tribulation, climaxing when the Conquering Messiah appears to save humanity.<span> </span>It will be Satan’s last attempt at establishing his New-World-Order.<span> </span>It will begin under the banner of peace and reform, complete with real convincing spiritual psycho-babble, all leading to a fool’s paradise and certain destruction.<span> </span>The peace will not last long, and “woe to them that are weak,” this society will turn on itself and many people will die during these years.<span> </span>This is not the talk of weird conspiracy nuts, shades of this story are in almost every culture. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> <strong>Blessed are those who believe with out seeing, </strong><span style="font-family:Arial;">(Jon.20:29,1Pet.2:9).</span> </span>People have been seeking His return for many years, but 2Peter 3:9 says the Messiah is not slack concerning his promises.<span> </span>The Age of Grace remains open so as many Believers as possible may be included in His family. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><img src="http://www.homeworship101.com/images/rapture.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="236" height="200" align="right" /> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">The Rapture:</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Yahshua’s lesson of the rapture is told in the parable of the fishermen recorded in John 21: 5-12.<span> </span>As the fishermen pulled in their nets full of fish, so will it be with the called-out ones, caught up out of their earthly world.<span> </span>They will be in the middle of their daily routines, then all of a sudden caught up in the spiritual net (you have only a moment to stop what you are doing and prepare).<span> </span>It is called the translation of the body into spirit (1Cor.15:51-53).<span> </span>Then taken to YAHWEH’S Heaven, and once there no one will drop out of Heaven &#8211; “. . . <em>the net was not broken.” </em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span>Bible Believers are accustomed to reading and studying the fantastic supernatural stories which can only be carried out by a higher intelligence.<span> </span>There is no Biblical reason why this event will not take place.<span> </span>One can only imagine how the mechanics of such an event would be organized.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>The records kept by the Angels record humanities history on an individual basis, people must be selected for translation, the location of the chosen humans for translation must be recorded, the temporary collection center above the Earth after translation must be determined, and then transportation with Yahshua to YAHWEH’S Heaven.<span> </span>It takes more then say, twitching a nose to get these things done.<span> </span>The ground rules and executive orders are drawn up in the Great White Throne Room, and there will be a lot to do for the community of Angels who carry out these orders, under the supervision of Yahshua. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">The second question</span></strong> every Believer ponders is</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">, when will the rapture happen?  &#8220;</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The Millennium&#8221; is a term meaning &#8220;thousand,&#8221; and it refers to the thousand year reign of the Messiah in connection with His return to Earth.  The belief is that the Messiah will call His believers home before He returns to earth as the Conquering Messiah, but many theologians cannot even decide on the Millennium rule itself.  Revelation ch.20 clearly referrers to the Messiah&#8217;s thousand year rule six times, and most Jews and Christians agree the Messiah&#8217;s rule will be an age of blessedness on the Earth.  But because of anti-Semitism, some Christians ignore Scriptures and do not teach the Millennium-rule theory because that is what the Jews believe; they say the Millennium is the present church age &#8211; a period of indefinite length.  Still others regard the Millennium as a way of referring to the ages of eternity. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><img src="http://www.homeworship101.com/images/radar.gif" border="0" alt="" width="55" height="55" align="left" /> </span><strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><a rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Timing of the rapture</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> in relation to the Millennium rule and the Tribulation Period is an item of great debate and contention by Christian </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">theologians</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">, over time it has evolved into three views: </span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><strong>[2] Mid-tribulation:</strong> The Believers will remain on the Earth for the first 3 1/2 years of the seven-year Tribulation period, and will be caught up before the last 3 1/2 years (the Great Tribulation) falls upon the human race. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><strong>[3] Post-tribulation: </strong>The Believers will continue on the Earth through the Tribulation period.<span> </span>At the end of the Tribulation, Believers will be caught up to be with the Messiah and immediately return to Earth with Him for the Millennium reign.<span> </span>They believe the Marriage Supper described in Revelation 19:7-10, will take place after the Messiah’s second coming to Earth. </span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>The Bible teaches</strong>,<strong> the Believers are the children of light . . ., </strong></span>(1Ths.5:3-11)<span style="color:#0000ff;">,</span> and YAHWEH did not appoint you to wrath (Rev.3:10).<span> </span>There is no example in the Bible when YAHWEH allowed the righteous to be destroyed by the judgment on the unrighteous.<span> </span>If one examines the lives of Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, and Lot at Sodom, the pattern of YAHWEH’S judgment throughout human history is unchanging.<span> </span>First, a Prophet warns of the coming doom.<span> </span>Next the righteous Believers are removed by YAHWEH from danger.<span> </span>Finally, the prophesied judgment falls upon those who continue in their sin without repenting.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>Yahshua told His Disciples that the time of the end would be “as it was in the days of Noah” (Luk.17:26) and that they were to remember the lessons of Lot’s wife (vs.32).<span> </span>There YAHWEH raptured Enoch to Heaven then protected Noah and his family by sealing them in the Ark before the judgment.<span> </span>The Angels warned Lot that, despite the terrible sin of Sodom, YAHWEH would not destroy the city until Lot and his family were safely away, and they should not look back.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><span style="color:#cc0000;"><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:medium;"><em>The Wedding Custom:</em></span> </strong></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The key to unlocking the mysterious meaning of “the Bride of the Messiah” one must understand the Jewish wedding custom as it was in the time of Yahshua.<span> </span>This is a remarkable analogy which also helps solve the timing mystery of the rapture. <span> </span>This is a wonderful Biblical story that is best told by a Jewish Believer because it is their history.<span> </span>Such a story teller is Zola Levitt and he has a great little book on it called <span style="text-decoration:underline;">A Christian Love Story</span> &#8211; it will be the best few dollars you ever spent.<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">(See the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeworship101.com/links.htm#Jewish%20Roots" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0066cc;">Links</span></a> page)</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><strong><em>The Visitation:</em></strong></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> When a man had chosen the woman he wanted for his bride he left his house and traveled to the house of his perspective bride.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> Yahshua left His FATHER’S House in Heaven and traveled to the home of His perspective bride on Earth.<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><em>The Covenant Proposal:</em></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The man arrives at the woman’s home, with the purpose of establishing a marriage covenant and the purchase price to be paid.<span> </span>She and her father would take a little time to talk it over and make a decision. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> when Yahshua came to Earth he established what is today called The New Testament, which is based on the New Covenant (Jer.31:31-34; Heb.8:8-12).<span> </span>And this Age of Grace is the time for people to review the Covenant and decide. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><img src="http://www.homeworship101.com/images/wine_cup-proposaL.gif" border="0" alt="" width="177" height="116" align="right" /> <span> </span></span><span> </span><strong><span style="color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><em>The Cup of the Covenant:</em></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After considering his contract, if the terms were suitable, the bride and groom would drink a cup of wine together.<span> </span>Sometimes called the Cup of Acceptance, this would seal the bargain. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> in the New Covenant faith, “the cup” of wine to seal Yahshua’s Covenant was a Rite established at the Passover supper, commonly known as the Communion service at the Last Supper (Mat.26:27-29). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>The Price:</em></span></strong> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After the drink of wine, the groom would make a little speech of his intentions and pay the agreed to price.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy, </strong>the purchase price He paid for His Bride was the shedding of His own life blood at His death (Act.20:27; 1Cor.6:20).<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>The Separation:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After the groom established a covenant and paid the price, they would remain separated for a while.<span> </span>He would leave her at her home, and return to his father’s house to prepare a beautiful place, a wedding chamber, to receive his bride for the honeymoon and wedding feast.<span> </span>He did not know how long this would take, usually about a year.<span> </span>His father would be the one to judge when the project was complete (if it was up to the young man, he would slap something together in a hurry and quickly return for his bride).<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>Meanwhile the bride was now consecrated, set apart and veiled when she went outdoors.<span> </span>Her manner was discreet.<span> </span>As a true lady in waiting, she would stay home every night with friends or family.<span> </span>She would be spending time preparing her trousseau, and making arrangements for her bridesmaids. <span> </span>She would be watching and waiting. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> Yahshua returned to His FATHER’S House and has been away ever since.<span> </span>He promised His assembly in John 14:1-3, that He had to go and prepare a place to receive His Bride, and He will be back.<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span style="color:#000080;"><span> </span>Meanwhile the Bride of the New Covenant on Earth should also be preparing herself as stated in the parable of the ten virgins (Mat.25:1-13).<span> </span>The Bride of the Messiah is veiled, “in this world, but not of this world.”<span> </span>The trousseau of the Bride is learning the way’s of the Messiah’s righteous Kingdom.<span> </span>The Bride should be watching for the signs and waiting . . ..<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>Watching for the Signs:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">When the father determined his son’s project was completed, the groom would return for his bride on an unannounced night.<span> </span>That was the thrilling part of romance &#8211; the bride never knew exactly what night he would come to steal her away.<span> </span> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span style="color:#000080;"><span> </span><strong>By analogy,</strong> when the FATHER determines the time is fulfilled (Mat.24:36), Yahshua will return for His Bride at an unannounced time.<span> </span>The rapture is always an imminent event, it could happen at any time.<span> </span>But Apostle Matthew also says in 25:13, Yahshua gives us signs to watch . . ., to know the seasons . . . (2Tim.3:19). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>The Snatching Away:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">When the groom returned for his bride, he and his male escorts would call out to her from outside her home.<span> </span>An alert bride would hear the shouting from a distance as they were coming down the street (this would give her a few moments to prepare).<span> </span>The groom did not go into the house, the bride would quickly ready herself, light her oil lamp, and go outside to meet him.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> Yahshua will not return to Earth for His Bride, but will be just above the Earth in the air.<span> </span>He, along with the Angels will call to her, “come up hither. . .” (Rev.4:1).<span> </span>It will be a surprise.<span> </span>He will come as a thief in the night (2Pet.3:3-8).<span> </span>The Bride will only have a moment to stop her activities and then rise up to meet Him in the air. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>Onto the Father’s House:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After the bride, along with her bridesmaids, went outside to meet her groom, the whole wedding party would have a torch light procession to the groom’s house. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> Yahshua will greet His Bride above the Earth and they all will return to His FATHER’S House in Heaven. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>The Bridal Chamber:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After the bride and groom arrived at the bridal chamber that he prepared at his fathers house, they would go into hiding.<span> </span>In the privacy of the bridal chamber they would get to know each other, enter into a physical union and consummate the marriage.<span> </span>They would stay hidden in the bridal chamber for<em> seven days</em>.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> when Yahshua and His Bride arrive at the FATHER’S house they will go into hiding for a period of <em>seven years</em>.<span> </span>In Yahshuas’ Bridal Chamber is the Judgment Seat where everyone will sit alone with the Messiah (2Cor.5:10).<span> </span>There they will get to know each other.<span> </span>Most think their sins will be judged, but their sins are burnt up and forgotten, it will be a review of the righteous deeds one has done in their earthly service (1Cor.3:11-13).<span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><strong>We are all as different as snowflakes,</strong> and people shape their own destinies.<span> </span>They will be judged by what they did with the individual gifts given to them, and how they used these gifts as ambassadors in service for the Kingdom (2Cor.5:20). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>For good works</strong> and avoiding sin, rewards and crowns are given to the Bride:<span> </span></span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">[2] Watching for the signs crown, 2Timothy 4:8. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">[3] Running the race faithfully crown, 1Corinthians 9:24-27; James 1:12. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">[4] Winning friends crown, 1Thessalonians 2:19. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">[5] Martyrs crown, Revelation 2:10. </span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>A special gift</strong> to those who overcome false teaching proves that not everyone who is called by Yahshua will be called because they keep a perfect theology.<span> </span>There will not be one human being who will not be surprised when they discover there is more to the theology then they understood from their earthly education.<span> </span>The Bible says it is important that the Believers should earnestly contend for the true doctrine (Jud.3), because if someone has faith and believes in something, they will want to do the best they can with it.<span> </span>This reward is given to those that when they discover a new Biblical truth, set their old belief aside and adopt the new found truth.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>Some are ashamed</strong> that they have not done more, they were not given any rewards, yet they are still called to Heaven to serve (1Jno.2:28). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span>The unique and special gifts that make up a person’s character, along with the crowns received, will determine a type of rank or position for the individual in the organizational structure of Yahshuas’ government. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><em>The Marriage Supper:</em></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span></span></strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">When the seven days were completed the groom would come out of hiding with his bride, her veil was removed and they would present themselves for all their close friends to see at a joyous wedding feast in the father’s house. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> after judgment all the Believers gather together in the Throne Room of YAHWEH and the Bride will lay their crowns at Yahshua’s feet, as a wedding present (Rev.4:10).<span> </span>They will meet the faithful Believers of Old Testament assembly and wait for the Tribulation martyrs to arrive (Rev.6:9-11). </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span><strong>The Rapture will trigger the greatest Biblical revival in world history.</strong><span> </span>As the Biblical revelations are understood, the new converts that will make up this harvest of Believers are called the Tribulation Saints (their numbers will be greater than in the Rapture).<span> </span>They come to believe in Yahshua after the true assembly has been removed.<span> </span>These people unfortunately will have to prove their faith with their lives, as it will be these people who will first resist worshiping the Antichrist.<span> </span> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span> </span>They will resist the new satanic global governing system and their ersatz leadership.<span> </span>They will not accept the future compulsory computer chip implants, and for their rebellious attitude they will be tortured, killed or beheaded (Rev.20:4<em>).<span> </span></em>The last Rapture event will be those true Believers of Hebrew blood in Israel (Mat.24:40-41; many mistake this prophecy for the Rapture of Christians, but the Messianic Church was still a hidden mystery when this prophecy was given).  For more info see: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeworship101.com/bb-c9_prophecy_trib01.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0066cc;">Tribulation /</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.homeworship101.com/bb-c9_prophecy_trib01.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0066cc;"> Apocalypse prophecies</span></a>.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><strong>The Bible talks of two churches.</strong> <em><span> </span>The Local Church</em> was the local earthly <em>believers.<span> </span>The</em> <em>Universal Church, </em>which is the higher Heavenly church made up of all members of the Heavenly Societies &#8211; “angels and strange creatures” &#8211; in the Universe,<em> according to the Order of Melchizedek. </em><span> </span>Now, with all the human Believers together in the FATHER’S House in Heaven, will begin the first official meeting of the Universal Church, as everyone sits together at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (Rev.19:7-8).<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> <span> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#cc0000;font-size:medium;"><em>Leave for their New Home:</em></span> </strong><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">After the marriage supper the bride and groom would make their first public appearance as they depart his father’s house to live in their own permanent home.<span> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"><span> </span><span style="color:#000080;"><strong>By analogy,</strong> at the end of the seven years Yahshua will return to Earth as the Conquering Messiah, coming with His Bride and the wedding party for all the world to see.<span> </span>They will dwell together in a house prepared by Yahshua on Earth for a thousand years, (in the Millennium Temple complex Eze.ch.40-43).<span> </span>And the Bride will help Yahshua govern the creation during the Millennial reign (Rev.2:26-27, 3:21).</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">MARCH 28&#8211;In a significant legal setback for <span>Michael Jackson</span>, a judge ruled today that Santa Barbara prosecutors can present jurors with evidence that the performer previously molested five young boys.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Judge Rodney Melville&#8217;s bombshell decision came after a two-hour hearing during which Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon outlined several separate &#8220;prior bad acts&#8221; that investigators sought to present to the 12-member <span>Superior Court jury</span>. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Ruling from the bench after the hearing, Melville told a packed courtroom that he will allow prosecutors to present testimony that Jackson previously molested five boys, including actor <span>Macaulay Culkin</span> (pictured right) and choreographer <span>Wade Robson</span> (pictured left). That evidence, Melville ruled, is admissible to show a pattern of &#8220;grooming&#8221; on the entertainer&#8217;s part. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">While Melville denied a government request to present testimony about two other boys, he ruled that prosecutors will be allowed to introduce evidence about a pair of financial settlements entered into by Jackson with two of the prior accusers (though Melville said that the D.A. is precluded from mentioning the settlement amounts).</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Testimony about the prior incidents will come from one of the alleged victims (the son of a former <span>Neverland Ranch</span> maid) and eight third-party witnesses, according to Melville&#8217;s ruling. That witness list includes the ex-maid, another former Neverland household employee, ex-Jackson assistant Bob Jones, former security guard Ralph Chacon, and the mother of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html" target="_blank"><span>Jordan Chandler</span></a>, the California boy who first leveled abuse charges against the King of Pop in 1993 (and who settled a related <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjcivil1.html" target="_blank"><span>civil lawsuit</span></a> for more than $15 million).</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Melville&#8217;s decision appears to reflect his belief that admission of the prior incidents, none of which resulted in criminal charges against Jackson, would not serve to unfairly buttress the current case, which centers on allegations that the performer molested a Los Angeles boy, now 15, in early 2003.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">The ruling is Melville&#8217;s tacit acknowledgment that Sneddon&#8217;s current case is not nearly as wobbly as Jackson lawyer <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">Thomas Mesereau</span> claims it to be, and that prosecutors would not improperly benefit from the introduction of &#8220;propensity&#8221; material allowed under <span>California law</span>. Section 1108 of the <span style="background:transparent none repeat scroll 0 0;cursor:pointer;">state&#8217;s Evidence Code</span> (an amendment signed into law in 1996) allows testimony about alleged prior bad acts so long as its usefulness is not outweighed by any potential prejudicial effect on a jury.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">As a result of Melville&#8217;s decision to admit so-called 1108 evidence, jurors will now weigh the 2003 molestation allegations in the light of other troubling charges from Jackson&#8217;s past. This is, of course, especially crucial in light of the multimillion dollar settlement deals. While not admissions of guilt, details of these decade-old agreements&#8211;Chandler&#8217;s deal and a $2 million settlement with the maid&#8217;s son&#8211;could prove devastating.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Melville&#8217;s decision came after a remarkable hearing during which Sneddon offered a detailed recitation of what he said was Jackson&#8217;s history of sexually abusing boys. Having investigated the singer for 12 years, Sneddon offered up the fruits of that lengthy pursuit, charging that Jackson&#8217;s pedophilia was borne out by a variety of illicit acts, including:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><strong><span style="font-size:large;">*</span></strong></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><strong> </strong>One &#8220;prior child,&#8221; Sneddon said, will testify to three separate instances during which his genitals were touched by Jackson. On two occasions, the child was fondled outside his clothes, and once the singer &#8220;thrust&#8221; his hands inside the boy&#8217;s pants. The witness in question is the son of Blanca Francia, the former <span>Neverland Ranch</span> maid. The woman and her son, now 24, received a $2 million legal settlement from Jackson in 1994 (and both were included on the prosecution&#8217;s list of potential trial witnesses). </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><strong><span style="font-size:large;">*</span> </strong> One witness told probers of seeing the entertainer lick the head of a young boy. The incident mirrors a claim from the current molestation case (the accuser&#8217;s brother and mother have both told investigators that they saw Jackson lick the accuser&#8217;s head while the boy slept during a 2003 flight from Miami to Santa Barbara).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">In arguing for admission of such evidence, Sneddon said that Jackson has long shown a proclivity for illicit behavior with young boys the entertainer considers &#8220;special friends.&#8221; He noted that Jackson&#8217;s grooming of young boys often included the purchase of gifts for a child&#8217;s mother, so as to keep the parent preoccupied while he frolicked with the minor. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/michaeljackson/openings/mesereaupic.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="155" height="155" align="right" />After Sneddon&#8217;s 40-minute presentation, Mesereau told Melville that the D.A.&#8217;s case so far has been a weak one, riddled with repeated lies and contradictions from the alleged victim and his two siblings. Testimony about uncharged behavior, Mesereau (pictured right) said, would only serve to prop up Sneddon&#8217;s case. Noting that prosecutors had yet to call the victim&#8217;s mother to the witness stand, Mesereau asked that Melville delay his decision on the introduction of prior bad acts testimony until the woman testifies. Referring to how Sneddon&#8217;s case has been unfolding, Mesereau remarked, &#8220;Every time they put on a witness, it gets worse.&#8221;</span><br />
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Mesereau said that many of the third-party witnesses Sneddon would call to testify about the prior abuse were tabloid informants, disgruntled former employees, and money-hungry litigants. He specifically mentioned a group of former Neverland workers who sued Jackson for <span>wrongful termination</span> and were routed in court (in fact, they lost a countersuit brought by Jackson and were hit with a seven-figure legal judgment, which drove some into bankruptcy). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Testimony about the alleged prior incidents&#8211;most of which date back more than a decade&#8211;would be incredibly time consuming, Mesereau said, adding that &#8220;all is fair game&#8221; when it came to examining the motivations of the third-party witnesses. Mesereau specifically mentioned how Francia sold her story to a television tabloid show, but then later disavowed her TV claims during a sworn deposition. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">The Smoking Gun has copies of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html" target="_blank">previously secret court papers</a> of the 1993 court case against Michael Jackson.  WARNING!  There are detailed descriptions of what went on between Jackson and the then 13 year old boy.  Only read it if you have a strong stomach.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">After reading them, I don’t know how Michael Jackson didn’t get jail time.  Actually, I do know.  He’s a famous superstar who has hundreds of millions of dollars.  The relationship the kid describes looks innocent enough until after several months.  Then things go completely wrong.  Michael Jackson has SEVERE problems and should get serious help.  Superstar or not, he should be in jail and listed in the pedophile database.  It’s sick.  Sad and sick. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">I fear that the word that is randy’s first name may also apply to michael jackson after a couple of coke cans of wine. I’m going to err on the side of decency and suggest that the fact that randy wouldn’t abuse a child has blinded him to the fact that others might do so. Of course being odd doesn’t automatically make a person a paedophile.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Michael Joe Jackson’s “oddness” was at one time, long, long ago a refreshing change from the other prima-donna, drug addicted, sexually promiscuous musical star types, but today Michael is far beyond just being odd now he is? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">I agree with the comment that being “odd” is not reason alone to be labeled a pedophile, or a criminal, but in today’s sleazy celebrity world of legal contracts between stars and their mistresses, prostitutes, and drug prescribing personal Doctors, anything’s unfortunately possible. Remember the rumor regarding Tom Cruise’s two past marriages as being set-up to protect him and hide his true Homosexuality? (Both marriages lasted almost 10 years each) </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Who really knows (outside of Michael and every child who’s ever accused him) if he really has molested any child, but I for one am so sick and tired of hearing about it everywhere I look and having this latest accusation being decided outside of the Courts. Let’s let our Legal System do it’s thing and run it’s systematic course. The “truth” should not only come out, but either an innocent man will be cleared or a child abuser will finally received his just punishment!</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:x-small;"><a rel="nofollow" name="1730"></a></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">Or the lawyer with the highest win bonus in his contract will win.<br />
Incidentally, what do people think of jonathan king’s release and the pope getting ill? I wonder who will be the fourth horseman of the paedophilic apocalypse?</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Don’t you mean to ask…. Who will be the Atty. representing the “fourth horseman” and oh yes, what will the Atty.’s bonus be???</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">jackson probably comes from a history of abuse himself. (given his background and childhood stories) growing up jahovahs witness is a difficult act to follow too!</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">It’s interesting, Michael Jackson must really, really like young boys to risk losing everything to continue to have sexual relationships with them. He’s actually compulsive about it.. Why can’t he just start screwing around with the male species when they reach 18 years old? That’s still pretty young. Maybe all pedophiles are out of control like this or maybe he just thinks that he can get away with it because he’s got so much money. Probably it’s a little of both but mostly the latter. I think that Michael Jackson should get help for his problem and some punishment, yes, but not the full 20 years in prison. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t excuse him for his actions or feel particularly sorry for him in any way, but 20 years in prison is harsh (especially for wispy MJ) and not particularly constructive. Why not register the spoiled brat as a pedophile, don’t ever let him be with children alone, take away his Neverland ranch/boy trap, give him a few years in jail and force him to go into intensive therapy (group and individual) for his pedophilia and issues from childhood. God, it makes me sick. He’s probably going to get away with this cuz he’s rich and black and famous. What a bunch of bullshit. I go 5 minutes over on my break and am almost fired from my job. Now that is fair. And one more little thing, I think it is just bizarre that people are actually supporting MJ as being innocent. It’s shined up crystal clear that this guy is a pedophile. Get over it and move on ya celebrity barnacles.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">paedophilia goes on because people let it. and saying wait until they are 18 is no solution, i was 5 foot 6 when i turned 18 and i am 6 foot 1 now i am 23. never was the difference between a man and a boy so distinct. happily now i am fully grown i get less offers from dodgy large men. don’t get me wrong, i am very happy for elton john and david furnish, i just feel the difference between homosexuality and paedophilia needs to be spelt out.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">yeah the guy is a pedo for sure, the most disgusting kind..what is with all these jackobots that like think hes innocent? please let there be a god and not let this guy off… heres a good definition…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Ephebophilia (in Greek ‘ephebos’ έφηβος = teenager and ‘philia’ φιλία = friendship), also known as hebephilia, is the condition in which an adult is dependent on sexual attraction to adolescents. It is a chronophilia, i.e. belongs to a group of paraphilias of the stigmatic or eligibilic type in which the paraphile’s sexuoerotic age is discordant with his or her actual chronological age and is concordant with the age of the partner. Pederasty</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">1..guy <span>PUBLICALLY</span> admits that he shares his bed with young boys, <span>AND</span> calls it a thing of beauty…is somehow able to justify this because of his effiminate/’naive’ nature…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">2. 46 yr old black male admits he thinks hes peter pan with a straight face…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">3. collects chimps, bones from the elepahant man, has a ranch called ‘neverland’ to lure in the kiddies…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">4. pet names for kids not related to him, like apple head and blow hole? its just a hop n step away from hands down the pants from there…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">5. the richest pedo on earth for sure… and those kids are the most highly paid prostitutes then…theres no doubt the guy did it man, have you seen those kids? theyre all very good looking, wouldnt want to molest a kid who wasnt cute would ya? sicko jacko… sorry even with the weirdo accusers mom, the rest of the story is just too ill…</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Michael Jackson is a closeted gay pedophile. Andone that married him, bore him children etc, did so to hide his homosexuality. He is sick in the head andf needs help.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">The only comment I will make is that I strongly suggest people look at the evidence in <span>FAVOR</span> of Jackson. The media only cover the damaging, and irrelevent “evidence” against him, none of which has been substancial enough to convict him of any wrong doing. This whole trial is a media circus, there is striking evidence that Jackson did not molest that boy, yet it is never reported by the media, why? Because that would be “positive” and everybody knows the media hates anything that could be possibly positive yet true in nature. So lets watch who we call “disgusting” around here, shall we? Because the only thing disgusting is the media and these monsters Exploiting Jackson. I feel sorry for anyone who takes the media for gospal, I feel even sorrier for anyone who would take advantage of someone else for personal gain in such an heinous and evil way. And ya know what? I feel even sorriest for anyone who would come on a site like this who knows nothing but the irrelevent garbage the media spits without hearing the other side and sounds off about issues they know <span>NOTHING</span> about. There is a lot of sadness, and igorance. The media has accomplished it’s mission, and I mine. Have a nice, ignorant day…</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Michael Jackson is 100% innocent. The prosecution’s case on the trial was none other than apawling and pathetic. It is now time for the defense to give their side, and Michael’s innocence will prevail in court. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">I recommend that you follow the trial to a considerable amount of detail before you make such statements.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">“odessa” eh? were you named after that frederick forsyth book “the odessa file” which uncovers the way SS members escaped from the crumbling nazi regime to latin america, and the way the high up posts in society were staffed by a lot of the same people during and after the 2nd world war? I doubt michael jackson’s 100% anything; after all the surgery he is a compound of various alloys not a single element<br />
<img style="border:0 none;" src="http://www.chrisruzin.net/images/smileys/grin.gif" alt="grin" width="19" height="19" /> probably guilty of half of the allegations but no way all of them or none of them.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Michael Jackson is a pathetic, deranged figure.  He is obviously gay, but he has, it appears, not contributed any money to <span>AIDS</span> research or <span>AIDS</span> patients. Instead, he pretends to be straight while wearing scarlet lipstick and seducing young boys. Also, he speaks like an infant—when he was briefly in police custody he referred to excrement as dooty; has made patently antisemetic statements about a cabal of Jews allegedly plotting to destroy him; and is bereft of intellectual, aesthetic or moral values. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">He deserves prison and all the severity it can muster. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Also, his popularity is merely a sign of the debasement and stupidity of our insipid, vapid culture.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">People I think that there are way to many strongly opinionated people out there. ME, being an avid fan of Michaels music and performances hope that he does not go to jail. But if it becomes obviously clear that he is a pedophile then he should be punished. At the moment however it is only one persons word against antoher. The fact the he speaks in a high voice makes no difference. Until a more reliable way of accusing Jackson, such as footage or recordings, are made there is no way he can get prosecuted as it is just one persons word against another.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">I admit that J. Chandler’s story is shocking and sick but just because Rebecca Loos says she has slept with David Becham does it make that true? No, So why should it be different for Michale Jackson?</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">At least 80% of Americans are sick, dumb, fat, evil morons. Michael Jackson is innocent!</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Spoken like a real brainiac.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent he is innocent Michael Jackson lives on</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">The verdict proves nothing, juries judge by their own limited imaginations anyway. I read in the paper that he only weighs 6 stone so i think he would now have trouble overpowering all but the smallest child.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">I can’t say for sure whether or not he is innocent or guilty, but there is definitely wrong with someone who likes sharing his bed with young boys at that age.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">j’t’aime michael t’ai le meilleure toutes la France te soutient. On savais que t’etais innocent.<br />
vivement ton prochain album !!!!<br />
on t’aimmmmmmmmmeeeeeeee !!!!</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Mike is Guilty.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck,<br />
its a <span>DUCK</span>.  Dont tell me its an Eagle.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Michael looks, and acts just the way he truly is a <span>PEDOPHILE</span>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">End of story.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>BJ </span>Hickwoman has an interesting site about Michael Jackson. He/She has a bit of a sense of humor about the whole Jackson thing, but is also honest about it all. My opinion, as already expressed, is that Jackson is guilty of everything he has been accused of.. I also am of the opinion that his fans and supporters are contributors to the problems that exist for children who are being sexually molested on a daily basis. The truth is, if you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem, which means his fans and supporters are a part of the problem of child sexual molestation and <span>NOT</span> a part of the solution.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>BJ </span>Hickwoman’s website can be found at the following <span>URL</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Watch out overseas! Here he comes… guard your little ones! Sad to say we let a real wierdo loose… it kinda reminds you of the first Iraq war… “Tune into tomorrow soap fans, when MJ gets busted again in another country!” I suggest he get some help. He may not get off so easily this time.. By the way …hasn’t he been accused <span>AGAIN</span> since the trial? How many accusations does it take before people will listen?</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">But he recorded Thriller!!!!! He can sing!!! He can dance!!! He’s so talented!!! He loves the world!! He’s…he’s…he’s so, sweet! [roll eyes here] </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">Here’s a nickle! That’s more than he’s worth.</span><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:large;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:xx-large;">&#8220;</span></span></p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>The man should have gone to prison but he managed to buy off his victims!</p>
<p>Children are safer with him dead!</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>Some people paid alot of money to see his final tour I wonde rif they will get refunds</span></span></td>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>How can you disagree? Does Jackson get a pass because he was a pop-star? If you had a Guiness world record established for the amount of drugs one man could contain in his body before Darwin&#8217;s theory took over Elvis would get the prize but the pop star gets a pass. Allegedly Jackson was the sleaziest of child predators. He pretended to be a Disney character and he paid off the parents when things went bad. I don&#8217;t say he is better off dead but it gives Geraldo something to do by pretending he is a journalist again. The autopsy should be easy. I think he had zippers holding his re-constructed body parts together.</span></span></td>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>&#62; How can you disagree? Does Jackson get a pass because<br />
&#62; he was a pop-star? If you had a Guiness world record<br />
&#62; established for the amount of drugs one man could<br />
&#62; contain in his body before Darwin&#8217;s theory took over<br />
&#62; Elvis would get the prize but the pop star gets a<br />
&#62; pass. Allegedly Jackson was the sleaziest of child<br />
&#62; predators. He pretended to be a Disney character and<br />
&#62; he paid off the parents when things went bad. I don&#8217;t<br />
&#62; say he is better off dead but it gives Geraldo<br />
&#62; something to do by pretending he is a journalist<br />
&#62; again. The autopsy should be easy. I think he had<br />
&#62; zippers holding his re-constructed body parts<br />
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<p>I can&#8217;t belt out PYT, try and immitate the anti-gravity lean from Smooth Criminal, or rewind the Van Halen solo from Beat It over and over again because he likes to rub little boys?</p>
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&#8220;New rule; the rest of the world can go back to being competely jealous of America&#8221;</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>As a man, he was most certainly dysfunctional.</p>
<p>Musically, he was a genius.</p>
<p>Neither can be ignored..</p>
<p>But the muse left him long ago. And all that has remained are the scars.</p>
<p>I have no idea how I would have turned out with his abuse and talent. My demons and skill both pale in comparison. Part of me is jealous. Part of me thanks God.</p>
<p>Life is complicated.</p>
<p>Death is sad.</p>
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Nobody wants to play rhythm guitar behind Jesus.<br />
Everyone wants to be lead singer in the band.</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Don&#8217;t blame drugs (he had mental problems (ignored because of his stardom) ) &#8211; was him and society</span></span></td>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>&#62; As a man, he was most certainly dysfunctional.<br />
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&#62; Musically, he was a genius.<br />
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&#62; Neither can be ignored.<br />
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&#62; But the muse left him long ago. And all that has<br />
&#62; remained are the scars.<br />
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&#62; I have no idea how I would have turned out with his<br />
&#62; abuse and talent. My demons and skill both pale in<br />
&#62; comparison. Part of me is jealous. Part of me thanks<br />
&#62; God.<br />
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&#62; Life is complicated.<br />
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&#62; Death is sad.<br />
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&#62; Nobody wants to play rhythm guitar behind Jesus.<br />
&#62; Everyone wants to be lead singer in the band.</p>
<p>Well said Bob.</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>Talent is nothing compared to HURTing others &#8211; selfish reeks/good riddance &#8211; his talent wasn&#8217;t that good any way</span></span></td>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>&#62; Talent is nothing compared to HURTing others -<br />
&#62; selfish reeks/good riddance &#8211; his talent wasn&#8217;t that<br />
&#62; good any way</p>
<p>So the abuse he SUFFERED as a child is meaningless?</p>
<p>As for talent, I guess YOU have MORE hit records?</p>
<p>One dimensional, simple minded, self-appointed gods are SOOOOOOOOO &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. insignificant and meaningless.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you would justify ANYTHING because of &#8220;slavery&#8221;. You DO realize that being BEATEN and playing STRIP JOINTS on SCHOOL NIGHTS at the age of NINE is probably akin to &#8220;slavery&#8221;.</p>
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Nobody wants to play rhythm guitar behind Jesus.<br />
Everyone wants to be lead singer in the band.</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>He was indeed the epitome of the mentally scarred, human freakshow. Also, his Thriller video defined the 1980&#8217;s captivation with MTV. I remember it&#8217;s release. Those that watched will remember where they were that evening.</p>
<p>Large screen, bottom floor of Who&#8217;s on First, Boston, MA</p>
<p>somewhere between that strange juxtaposition was a person with a history, I wonder how history will treat him ?</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>West Side Story + The Day After = Thriller.<br />
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If it&#8217;s called &#8220;Common sense,&#8221; why is it so rare?</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><strong>somewhere between that strange juxtaposition was a person with a history, I wonder how history will treat him ?</strong></p>
<p>I suspect a &#8220;wash&#8221;. He has already been mostly forgotten.</p>
<p>I see similarities to Howard Hughes, in a sad sort of way.</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>Thriller exposed another generation to Vincent Price.</p>
<p>And the part was SOOOOOOOOO Vincent.</p>
<p>Even Weird Al couldn&#8217;t pull that off.<img src="http://boards.historychannel.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif" border="0" alt=":-D" /></p>
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Everyone wants to be lead singer in the band.</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>Very true. I&#8217;ll give ya that.<br />
<img src="http://boards.historychannel.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif" border="0" alt=":-D" /></p>
<p>My father was into horror flicks, so I knew about Vincent WELL before then.<br />
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If it&#8217;s called &#8220;Common sense,&#8221; why is it so rare?</p>
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<td height="100%"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span>jackson was a child molester and he deserved a slower death&#8230;. for those of us who were molested as kids, him and his kind should not be celabrated and to do so harms us all. it takes years often for these memories to come out and it kill us to see this monster adored by the public. the news channels worship his every song but forget the pain that a few brave young boys had to go through in vain only to have there greedy parents accept money for there dignity that they and us will never regain&#8230; those who honor his memory sicken me, and make me ask the question&#8230; to whom of those mindless THRILLER lovers has a kid right now that is or has gone through the hell that these monsters have put us through&#8230; and for those who know and those that will find out I send my true remorse to..</span></span><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:large;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:xx-large;">&#8220;</span></span></td>
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Judge Rodney Melville ruled that prosecutors can show the jury in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial a 2003 videotape of his teenage accuser&#8217;s original police interview, but also ruled that the jury will not be allowed to see photographs of Jackson&#8217;s genitalia. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">As the judge was making his decision on admitting the videotape, defense lawyers threatened to recall to the stand the accuser, his mother, a psychologist who interviewed the accuser, and the family&#8217;s former attorney, Larry Feldman.</span></p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Most courtroom observers believed the defense threat to recall the accuser and his mother to the stand was a bluff. The last thing the defense wants to do is appear they are beating up on the young former cancer victim, who also claims to be the victim in this case.</span></p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"> The jury has not heard from the teenager accuser since March, on the day that Jackson turned up for court wearing pajamas.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">In another ruling, Judge Melville would not allow the prosecution to use evidence from the 1993 Jackson case. They wanted to show the jury a sketch the 1993 accuser made of Jackson&#8217;s genitalia and compare it to actual photographs to prove that the singer&#8217;s relationship to young boys is not casual.</span></p>
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<div style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">Tuesday May 17, 2005</span></div>
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<p>Michael Jackson&#8217;s defense team put on a series of witnesses to counter the testimony of prosecution witnesses about the conspiracy to keep his accuser&#8217;s family at Neverland Ranch, but one of the witnesses backfired on the defense.</p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">When Detective Russell Birchim brought up allegations about the 1993 accuser, who was paid more than $20 million by Jackson in a settlement, it opened the door for the prosecution to explore details of the 1993 case.</span></p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Birchim testified under cross examination that two of Jackson&#8217;s former bodyguards told him in 1994 they they had information about Jackson fondling a young boy and performing oral sex on him, but they were afraid to come forward.</span></p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Kassim Abdul and Ralph Chacon told Birchim, he testified, that they would not come forward because they could not be guaranteed they could enter a witness protection program.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;They expressed concern for their own safety and that of their families,&#8221; Bircham said. Both Abdul and Chacon testified during the prosecution&#8217;s case.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">In 1993, <a title="Michael Jackson" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson" target="_blank">Michael Jackson</a> was accused of abuse by Evan Chandler, on behalf of his then-13-year-old child, Jordan Chandler. Jackson and Jordan had become friends in May 1992, to the father&#8217;s disapproval and concern. The friendship became well known, as the <a title="Tabloid" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid" target="_blank">tabloid</a> media reported that Jackson became a member of the Chandler family unit. Under the influence of a controversial <a title="Sedative" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedative" target="_blank">sedative</a> administered by Evan Chandler, his son said that Jackson had touched his <a title="Penis" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Penis" target="_blank">penis</a>.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_485-486-0" target="_blank"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_477-478-1" target="_blank"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup> and engaged Jackson in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue with a financial  settlement.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_53-2" target="_blank"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup> Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, <a title="Masturbation" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation" target="_blank">masturbation</a>, and <a title="Oral sex" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_sex" target="_blank">oral sex</a>, as well as giving a description of what he alleges were the singer&#8217;s genitals.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_496-498-3" target="_blank"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_53-2" target="_blank"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup> Evan Chandler was tape-recorded threatening to damage the singer&#8217;s music career,</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">Jackson&#8217;s home, <a title="Neverland Ranch" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch" target="_blank">Neverland Ranch</a>, was searched, even though other children and family members had stated that Jackson was not a <a title="Pedophile" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile" target="_blank">pedophile</a>. Jackson&#8217;s older sister, <a title="La Toya Jackson" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Toya_Jackson" target="_blank">La Toya Jackson</a>, accused her brother of being a pedophile, but later retracted her statement.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_534-540-4" target="_blank"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup> Jackson became dependent on drugs as the stress of the allegations mounted,<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_89-93-5" target="_blank"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_524-528-6" target="_blank"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup> and canceled the remainder of his tour. He went into <a title="Drug rehabilitation" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_rehabilitation" target="_blank">rehabilitation</a><a title="Lisa Marie Presley" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Marie_Presley" target="_blank">Lisa Marie Presley</a>. On his return to the US, Jackson agreed to a 25-minute <a title="Strip search" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search" target="_blank">strip search</a>, which was required to see if the description of his genitals provided by Jordan Chandler was accurate. Doctors concluded that there were some strong similarities but it was not a definitive match. Jackson proclaimed his innocence, and criticized the media coverage. Jackson&#8217;s friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances, persuading him to settle the allegations out of court. overseas, and began a relationship with</span></p>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">Tabloid reaction to the allegations were negative towards Jackson,<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_500-507-7" target="_blank"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup> and complaints about the coverage included bias and accepting stories of criminal activity for money, and engaging in illegal activities themselves.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_47-50-8" target="_blank"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup> Public polls at the time reported that a large majority of people believed Jackson was innocent.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_63-64-9" target="_blank"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup> On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled a civil suit out of court with the Chandler family and their legal team for <a title="$" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$" target="_blank">$</a>22 million. Jordan Chandler refused to testify in the criminal proceedings, the state closed its criminal investigation citing lack of evidence, and Jackson was not charged with a crime. Jackson&#8217;s support amongst the public then began to waver, and Jackson&#8217;s own career and image was significantly damaged, which became a recurring theme in Jackson&#8217;s future music. Prosecution evidence from the 1993 allegations would also be used against the entertainer in the 2005 <a title="People v. Jackson" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson" target="_blank">People v. Jackson</a> child sexual abuse trial, where he was acquitted on all counts.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-BBC_past_catches_up_with_MJ-10" target="_blank"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-CNN_Defense_looses_bid_to_stop-11" target="_blank"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a></sup></span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">By the summer of 1993, it was revealed that Jackson allowed children to sleep over at his Neverland ranch, a fact which came under much media scrutiny when <a title="Child sexual abuse" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse" target="_blank">child sexual abuse</a><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-NYTimes-13" target="_blank"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a></sup> Jackson became firm friends with Jordan Chandler and his family after a meeting in May 1992, as he was a fan of Jackson.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_47-50-8" target="_blank"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup> Their friendship became so close that the <em><a title="National Enquirer" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Enquirer" target="_blank">National Enquirer</a></em> ran a featured story with the title &#8220;Michael&#8217;s New Adopted Family&#8221;, which implied that Jackson had &#8220;stolen&#8221; the family from the father, Evan Chandler, who was admittedly jealous over Jackson&#8217;s influence on his son.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_464-471-14" target="_blank"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a></sup> Communications between Jackson and the father broke down further when Chandler asked, &#8220;Look, are you having sex with my son?&#8221;. The father&#8217;s opinion of Jackson then changed, to the extent that he invited Jackson to build an extra wing on their home so that the singer could move in with them permanently.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_464-471-14" target="_blank"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a></sup> Chandler&#8217;s concerns about the close friendship returned, and he tried to prevent Jackson from seeing his son, using a prior custody agreement.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_47-50-8" target="_blank"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"> allegations were brought against him.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Once incorrectly labeled a &#8220;Truth Serum&#8221;, sodium Amytal has long been discredited by the medical profession. It is now considered a mind-altering sedative.</span></div>
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<p style="color:#000000;font-weight:bold;text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:small;">On July 2, 1993, in a private telephone conversation, Chandler was tape recorded as saying,</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:small;"> &#8220;There was no reason why he [Jackson] had to stop calling me&#8230;I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find [Evan Chandler's lawyer, Barry Rothman], all he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can and humiliate as many people as he can. He&#8217;s nasty, he&#8217;s mean, he&#8217;s smart and he&#8217;s hungry for publicity. Everything&#8217;s going to a certain plan that isn&#8217;t just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. I&#8217;ve given him full authority to do that. Jackson is an evil guy, he is worse than that and I have the evidence to prove it. If I go through with this, I win big-time. There&#8217;s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever&#8230;Michael&#8217;s career will be over.&#8221;</span><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_477-478-1" target="_blank"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small;">—<cite>Evan Chandler</cite></span></div>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">In the same conversation, when asked how this would affect his son, Chandler replied, &#8220;That&#8217;s irrelevant to me&#8230;It will be a massacre if I don&#8217;t get what I want. It&#8217;s going to be bigger than all us put together&#8230;This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief&#8230;He will not sell one more record&#8221;.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_477-478-1" target="_blank"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_477-478-1" target="_blank"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup></span> <span style="font-size:x-small;">The recorded conversation was a critical aspect of Jackson&#8217;s defense against the upcoming allegation made against him. He and his supporters argue that he was the victim of a jealous father whose only goal was to extort money from the singer.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">In early August, Chandler, a registered dentist, extracted a tooth from his son&#8217;s mouth, and was later forced to admit that he used the controversial sedative <a title="Sodium Amytal" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Amytal" target="_blank">sodium Amytal</a> during the procedure.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_485-486-0" target="_blank"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Under the influence of the drug, Jordan alleged that Jackson had touched his penis. Experts state that the drug sodium Amytal &#8220;makes patients extremely susceptible to suggestions&#8221;.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_485-486-0" target="_blank"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Dr Lewis Strong, a <a title="Los Angeles, California" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles,_California" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a> psychiatrist stated, &#8220;You can&#8217;t trust it, I never use it in my practice. I have found it to be unreliable. It&#8217;s certainly not a <a title="Truth serum" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum" target="_blank">truth serum</a>&#8220;.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_485-486-0" target="_blank"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Dr Kenneth Gottlieb, a <a title="San Francisco, California" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco,_California" target="_blank">San Francisco</a> psychiatrist who has used the drug, stated, &#8220;I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person&#8217;s unconscious unless there was no other drug available, and I would not use it without resuscitation equipment in case of allergic reaction&#8221;.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_485-486-0" target="_blank"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup></span></p>
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Over the next couple of months both parties engaged in unsuccessful (out of court) financial negotiations, with Chandler and his legal team asking for $20 million, or the issue would be taken to criminal court.</span><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_53-2" target="_blank"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup><span style="color:#000000;"> Jackson declined the offer, saying, &#8220;No way in Hell&#8221;. A few weeks later, Jackson&#8217;s legal team gave a counter-offer to the value of $1 million, which was declined by Chandler.</span><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_53-2" target="_blank"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup><span style="color:#000000;"> The father then lowered his request to $15 million; Jackson rejected this and lowered his original counter-offer to $350,000. With both sides unable to reach an agreement, Chandler decided he would take it to court.</span><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_53-2" target="_blank"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup><span style="color:#000000;"> Chandler then took his son to see a psychiatrist called Dr. Mathis Abrams, and during the three-hour session with the doctor, Jordan Chandler said he had had a sexual relationship with Jackson that included incidents of kissing, masturbation and oral sex that went on for months.<br />
<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">&#8211; </span><span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:underline;">He then repeated these allegations to police and gave a detailed description of what he alleged was Jackson&#8217;s penis.</span></span></span></span></p>
<h3 style="color:#000000;text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span>Allegations made public, investigation and La Toya Jackson</span></span></h3>
<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;">On August 18, the Los Angeles Police Department&#8217;s Sexually Exploited Child Unit began a criminal investigation into Jackson. The same day, Jordan Chandler&#8217;s mother told police that she did not believe Jackson had molested her son.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_496-498-3" target="_blank"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span><br />
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span><br />
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-NYTimes-13" target="_blank"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_42-45-15" target="_blank"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup> On August 21, a search warrant was issued, allowing police to search Jackson&#8217;s <a title="Neverland Ranch" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch" target="_blank">Neverland Ranch</a>. Police questioned 30 children who were friends of Jackson, with all denying that the singer was a child molester.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_42-45-15" target="_blank"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup> A police officer involved in the investigation told <em><a title="The Los Angeles Times" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Los_Angeles_Times" target="_blank">The Los Angeles Times</a></em> that no evidence (medical, photographic or video) could be found that would support a criminal filing.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_42-45-15" target="_blank"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup> The same day the allegations were made public, Jackson began the second leg of his <a title="Dangerous World Tour" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_World_Tour" target="_blank">Dangerous World Tour</a> in <a title="Bangkok" rel="nofollow" href="http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangkok" target="_blank">Bangkok</a>. On August 24, Jackson&#8217;s investigator held a press conference accusing Chandler of trying to extort $20 million from the singer, although the investigator failed to mention that Jackson had given several counter-offers.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-1993_allegations-12" target="_blank"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_42-45-15" target="_blank"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup> On August 25, Jackson&#8217;s young friends Brett Barnes and <a title="Wade Robson" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Robson" target="_blank">Wade Robson</a> held a press conference where they stated that they had slept in the same bed as Jackson, but nothing sexual in nature had occurred.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_500-507-7" target="_blank"><span><br />
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<p style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:x-small;"><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_500-507-7" target="_blank"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-cambpell_57-59-16" target="_blank"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a></sup> Jackson&#8217;s family soon held a press conference of their own to show support, saying it was their &#8220;unequivocal belief that Michael has been made a victim of a cruel and obvious attempt to take advantage of his fame and wealth.&#8221;<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_500-507-7" target="_blank"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-cambpell_57-59-16" target="_blank"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a></sup> The police then began an investigation into Evan Chandlers&#8217;s prior actions and found that he was $68,400 behind in his child support payments, even though he was well-paid as a dentist.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_47-50-8" target="_blank"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup> On November 8, police searched the jackson family home, Hayvenhurst, but found nothing of importance to add to their investigation.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;">In the winter of 1993, despite not seeing or speaking to Jackson for a number of years, <a title="La Toya Jackson" rel="nofollow" href="http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Toya_Jackson" target="_blank">La Toya Jackson</a> claimed that her brother was a <a title="Pedophile" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile" target="_blank">pedophile</a> and that she had proof, which she was prepared to disclose for a fee of $500,000. A bidding war between US and UK tabloids began, but fell through when they realized that her revelations were not what she had claimed them to be.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_534-540-4" target="_blank"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup> Then in <a title="Israel" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" target="_blank">Israel</a>, she stated, &#8220;I cannot and will not be a silent collaborator in his crimes against young children&#8230; Forget about the superstar, forget about the icon. If he was any other 35-year-old man who was sleeping with little boys, you wouldn&#8217;t like this guy&#8221;.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_534-540-4" target="_blank"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup> She also claimed that checks had been made out to several boys and that Jackson&#8217;s own physical abuse as a child had turned him into an abuser.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_534-540-4" target="_blank"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_128-17" target="_blank"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a></sup> She would later claim that Jackson had tried to kidnap and kill her.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-campbell_128-17" target="_blank"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a></sup> The rest of the family disowned her, and in subsequent years she would insist that she was forced to make the allegations by her then husband for financial gain.<sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-tara_534-540-4" target="_blank"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_molestation_allegations_against_Michael_Jackson#cite_note-18" target="_blank"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a></sup> By the turn of the <a title="Millennium" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium" target="_blank">millennium</a> Jackson had forgiven his sister.</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Just prior to making the allegations, her husband was arrested for striking her in the face, arms and legs with a chair.</span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:x-large;">The Expression: &#8220;<span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">Baptism By Fire</span>&#8220;</span></div>
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<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">By Andrew Friedman</span></span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#7f7f00;">Question:</span></span></p>
<p>&#8220;<em>What is the &#8220;</em></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;background:transparent none repeat scroll 0 0;cursor:pointer;">baptism of fire</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>&#8220;?</em>&#8220;</p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Answer:</span></span></p>
<p>The &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; is only mentioned in two <span>places in the Bible</span>: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the <span>Holy Spirit</span> and with fire.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 3:11</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">John answered them all, &#8220;I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.&#8221;</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Luke 3:16</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> <span style="background:transparent none repeat scroll 0 0;cursor:pointer;">John the Baptist</span> said that Jesus will baptize people with the Holy Spirit               <strong><em>and with fire</em></strong>,               and there are several interpretations of what this might mean: </span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Some people believe that Christians will automatically be &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;color:#ff0000;">baptized with fire</span></span>&#8221; at the same time that they are baptized with the Holy Spirit (such as the &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">tongues of fire</span>&#8221; that came onto the disciples at <span style="background:transparent none repeat scroll 0 0;cursor:pointer;">Pentecost</span> in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 2:1-4</span>). In other words, being baptized with the <span>Holy Spirit</span> and with fire is essentially one act (one baptism). </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Another interpretation is that Christians need to receive the <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">baptism of the Holy Spirit</span> after salvation, but we <strong><em>also</em></strong> need to receive a separate &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; which will &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">set us on fire</span></span>&#8221; for the Lord (or for evangelism, etc.). In other words, the <span>baptism of the Holy Spirit</span> and the baptism of fire are two separate baptisms for Christians. A similar view says that Christians will be refined by &#8220;fire,&#8221; which would also mean that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the </span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;"> are two separate baptisms for Christians.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:x-small;"> A third interpretation is that Christians will be baptized with the Holy Spirit, but                     <strong><em>non-</em></strong>Christians  will be &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptized with fire</span>&#8221; (i.e. the &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">lake of fire</span>&#8221; in <span style="font-weight:bold;">Revelation 20:15</span>). In other words, Christians will never receive the &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire.</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; </span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Let&#8217;s look at view #1</span> first.  Notice that when the disciples received the baptism of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost it was accompanied by &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">tongues of fire</span>&#8220;: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: &#8220;Do not leave <span>Jerusalem</span>, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.&#8221;</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 1:4-5</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 2:1-4</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> One problem with view #1 is that the &#8220;tongues of fire&#8221; at Pentecost are never referred to as &#8220;the <span>baptism of fire</span>.&#8221; In addition, there is never any mention of fire when other people received the baptism of the Holy Spirit: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">While Peter was still speaking these words,                 the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.                 The circumcised believers [Jews] who had come with Peter were                 astonished that the <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">gift of the Holy Spirit</span> had been poured out even on the Gentiles. For they heard them <span>speaking in tongues</span> and praising God. Then Peter said, &#8220;Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.&#8221; So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 10:44-48</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">As I [Peter] began to speak,                 <strong>the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning</strong>.                 Then I remembered what the Lord had said: &#8216;John baptized with water, but you will be                 <strong>baptized with the Holy Spirit</strong>.&#8217;                 So if God gave them the                 <strong>same gift</strong> as he gave us, who believed in the <span>Lord Jesus Christ</span>, who was I to                 think that I could oppose God?</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 11:15-17</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.. &#8230; When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. When they arrived, they prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 8:12-17</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at <span>Ephesus</span>. There he found some disciples and asked them, &#8220;Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?&#8221; They answered, &#8220;No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.&#8221; So Paul asked, &#8220;Then what baptism did you receive?&#8221; &#8220;John&#8217;s baptism,&#8221; they replied.. Paul said, &#8220;John&#8217;s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.&#8221; On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul placed his hands on them, <strong><em>the Holy Spirit came on them</em></strong>,                 and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 19:1-6</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, &#8220;Brother Saul, the Lord&#8211;Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here&#8211;has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.&#8221; Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul&#8217;s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Acts 9:17-18</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">New Testament</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> describes the</span> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">tongues of fire</span>&#8221; <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">at Pentecost, but this is never referred to as the</span> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire.</span>&#8221; <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Further, in all of the other descriptions of people receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament, there is never any mention of a</span> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span>&#8221; <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">happening at the same time. Therefore, we have no Scriptural support for the idea that people are always baptized with fire when they are baptized with the Holy Spirit. In addition, we can&#8217;t point to any Scripture passages which show that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the baptism of fire are meant to be interpreted as a single baptism. </span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /> <span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Now let&#8217;s look at view #2. </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Perhaps </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">John the Baptist</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> meant that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">baptism of fire</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> are two separate and distinct baptisms for Christians. If that&#8217;s the case, then it is strange that there is no record in the entire New Testament of anyone receiving both of these baptisms. The New Testament describes Christians receiving </span><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">water baptism</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, but it never describes any Christians receiving a separate </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">baptisms of fire</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;</p>
<p><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Some people might point out that our faith will be </span><strong><em>refined</em></strong><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> by fire, and that our earthly works will be </span><strong><em>tested</em></strong><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> in the fire: </span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith&#8211;of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire &#8211;may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">1 Peter 1:6-7</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man&#8217;s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">1 Corinthians 3:12-15</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">While it&#8217;s true that these passages describe certain kinds of &#8220;fire,&#8221; notice that the above situations are never referred to as </span>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptisms of fire.</span>&#8221; <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Therefore, we can&#8217;t dogmatically claim that these situations are, or are not, the </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptisms of fire.</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> If we say that the above passages are describing the &#8220;baptism of fire&#8221; then we&#8217;re simply making an </span><strong><em>assumption</em></strong><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> without any Scriptural support. </span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> The third view of the </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptisms of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> is that it refers to sinners being cast into the </span>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">lake of fire</span></span>&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> on Judgment Day: </span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">If anyone&#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life,                 he was thrown into the lake of fire.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Revelation 20:15</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The </span>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">lake of fire</span>&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> is never referred to as the </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptisms of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> in the New Testament, but it turns out that there is Scriptural evidence which supports the idea that the </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptisms of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> refers to the fire of judgment. To see why, let&#8217;s look at the context in which </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">John the Baptist</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> mentioned the </span>&#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8220;: </span></p>
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Matthew 3:4</span></span>: &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">John&#8217;s clothes were made of camel&#8217;s hair, and he had a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:5</span></span>:  &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:6</span></span>:                 &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Confessing their sins,                 they were baptized by him in the <span>Jordan River</span>.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:7</span></span>: &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: &#8220;You brood of vipers!                 Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:8</span></span>:  &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:9</span></span>: &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">And do not think you can say to yourselves, &#8216;We have Abraham as our father.&#8217; I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:10</span></span>: &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:11</span></span>: &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">&#8220;I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.</span>&#8220;<br />
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Matthew 3:12</span></span>:                 &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his <span>threshing floor</span>, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.&#8221;</span>&#8221; </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Notice what this passage says in the context of the &#8220;baptism of fire.&#8221; First we see one group of people who confessed their sins, and then we see another group of people whom John referred to as a &#8220;brood of vipers,&#8221; so in John&#8217;s audience there were <strong><em>two</em></strong> kinds of people (righteous people and unrighteous people). With that in mind, consider the parallelism in this passage. Notice that we see <strong><em>righteous</em></strong> people and then               <strong><em>unrighteous</em></strong> people (<span style="font-weight:bold;">verses 6-10</span>), followed by descriptions of a baptism for               <strong><em>righteous</em></strong> people and a baptism for               <strong><em>unrighteous</em></strong> people (according to view #3) (<span style="font-weight:bold;">verse 11</span>), followed by the separation of               <strong><em>righteous</em></strong> people and               <strong><em>unrighteous</em></strong> people (verse 12), all in the same context. Based on this consistent parallelism between righteous people and unrighteous people, the most likely meaning of &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">baptism of fire</span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; is that it refers to the fire of judgment for unrighteous people.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look at the word &#8220;fire&#8221; in the above passage. John specifically pointed out that every &#8220;tree&#8221; which does not produce &#8220;fruit in keeping with repentance&#8221; will be thrown into the fire. So here we have the fire of judgment (verse 10) followed by the &#8220;baptism of fire&#8221; (verse 11) followed by the unquenchable fire of judgment (verse 12), all in the same context. Again, this parallelism argues in favor of the &#8220;baptism of fire&#8221; being the fire of judgment. Since the word &#8220;fire&#8221; is used in the sense of judgment in verses 10 and 12, the most reasonable meaning of &#8220;fire&#8221; in verse 11 is for judgment as well. It would be unreasonable to suggest that the second occurrence of the word &#8220;fire&#8221; has a <strong><em>different</em></strong> meaning than the first and third occurrences without any clear explanation from John. In fact, in verse 12 John gave us an explanation of the word &#8220;fire,&#8221; and he specifically said that it is the fire of judgment.</p>
<p>Some people argue that if the <span>baptism of the Holy Spirit</span> is a blessing, and the baptism of fire is a curse, then it is strange that <span>John the Baptist</span> changed course in the middle of his sentence when he said, &#8220;He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.&#8221; However, the parallelism concerning righteous people and unrighteous people, plus the parallelism concerning the fire of judgment, demonstrates that John was <strong><em>not</em></strong> suddenly changing course in the middle of his sentence. Rather, he was simply being consistent in his use of these parallels. What would be strange is if John used the word &#8220;fire&#8221; in the sense of a <strong><em>curse</em></strong> in verse 10, and then he changed course and used the same word &#8220;fire&#8221; in the sense of a               <strong><em>blessing</em></strong> in verse 11, and then he changed course again and used the same word &#8220;fire&#8221; in the sense of a               <strong><em>curse</em></strong> in verse 12. This would not make sense. Therefore, if we interpret the baptism of fire as being a blessing then we are creating an inconsistency in John&#8217;s use of the word &#8220;fire.&#8221; This type of inconsistency in our interpretation of Scripture tends to happen when we are trying to force certain passages to fit our own preconceived ideas.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Now let&#8217;s look at the &#8220;baptism of fire&#8221; in context again: </span></span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with                 fire.  His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his <span>threshing floor</span>, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 3:11-12</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> We can see that John the Baptist was very careful to give us the exact meaning of the &#8220;fire&#8221; that he was referring to. In this context, fire is a reference to the judgment of sinners. In fact, John used the symbolism of sinners being burned up like &#8220;chaff&#8221; (such as straw or husks of grain), and notice that this very same symbolism is used in the <span>Old Testament</span>, as in these examples: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames,  so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel..</span>&#8221; (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Isaiah 5:22-24</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">&#8220;Now will I arise,&#8221; says the LORD. &#8220;Now will I be exalted; now will I be lifted up. You conceive                 chaff,                 you give birth to                 straw;                 your breath is a                 fire                 that consumes you.                 The peoples will be burned as if to lime; like cut thornbushes they will be set ablaze.&#8221;  You who are far away, hear what I have done; you who are near, acknowledge my power! The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: &#8220;Who of us can dwell with the <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">consuming fire</span>?                 Who of us can dwell with everlasting                 burning?&#8221;</span>&#8221;                 (<span style="font-weight:bold;">Isaiah 33:10-14</span>) </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> Again, John the Baptist used the word &#8220;fire&#8221; in reference to the judgment of sinners, and this view of the &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">baptism of fire</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; is supported by various Bible scholars: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"> &#8220;<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">[John's] baptism is </span><span style="font-style:italic;">water baptism</span><span style="font-style:italic;">, but the Coming One &#8220;will baptize in the Holy Spirit and fire.&#8221; &#8220;Life in the coming age is in the sphere of the Spirit. Spirit and fire are coupled with one preposition as a double baptism&#8221; (McNeile). Broadus takes &#8220;fire&#8221; in the sense of separation like the use of the fan..</span></span>&#8221;                 (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/RobertsonsWordPictures/rwp.cgi?book=mt&#38;chapter=003&#38;verse=011&#38;next=012&#38;prev=010" target="_blank"><span>Robertson&#8217;s Word Pictures of the New Testament</span> <img src="http://www.layhands.com/zOffsiteLink.jpg" border="0" alt="Offsite Link" width="13" height="12" /></a>,                 emphasis added)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">And with fire.                 The term                 fire                 is used in verse 10, and there means                 a destroying agency;                 it is used again in  verse 12                 in the same sense;                 it is used in verse 11, also, the intervening verse,                 and must be used in exactly the same sense as in the other two verses. It cannot mean a curse in verses 10 and 12, and a blessing in verse 11, without a word of explanation. It is strange, therefore, that all commentators should not agree that the baptism of fire is a baptism of trial and suffering. There were two classes before John. Some would repent and be baptized finally in the Holy Spirit; there were others who would remain impenitent, and be baptized in the awful trials that would come upon Israel. The next verse explains this. John says in it that there is the wheat and the chaff; one shall be gathered into the garner and the other burned.</span></span>&#8221;                 (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/PeoplesNewTestament/pnt.cgi?book=mt&#38;chapter=003" target="_blank"><span>People&#8217;s New Testament</span> <img src="http://www.layhands.com/zOffsiteLink.jpg" border="0" alt="Offsite Link" width="13" height="12" /></a>,                 emphasis added)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:italic;">With fire &#8211; This expression has been variously understood. Some have supposed that John refers to the afflictions and persecutions with which men would be tried under the Gospel; others, that the word &#8220;fire&#8221; means judgment or wrath. According to this latter interpretation, the meaning is that he would baptize a portion of mankind &#8211; those who were willing to be his followers &#8211; with the </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Holy Spirit</span><span style="font-style:italic;">, but the rest of mankind &#8211; the wicked &#8211; with fire; that is, with judgment and wrath. Fire is a symbol of vengeance.                 See </span><span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Isa_5:24; Isa_61:2; Isa_66:24</span><span style="font-style:italic;">.                 If this is the meaning, as seems to be probable, then John says that the ministry of the Messiah would be far more powerful than his was. It would be more searching and testing; and they who were not suited to abide the test would be cast into eternal fire.</span></span>&#8221;                 (Barnes, from                 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.e-sword.net/commentaries.html" target="_blank"><span>http://www.e-sword.net/commentaries.html</span> <img src="http://www.layhands.com/zOffsiteLink.jpg" border="0" alt="Offsite Link" width="13" height="12" /></a>,                 <span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 3:11</span>, emphasis added)</p>
<p>&#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">He shall baptize you with the <span>Holy Ghost</span>, and with fire;</span><strong>&#8220;</strong> referring, either to the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit, to be bestowed on the disciples on the <span>day of Pentecost</span>, of which the cloven tongues, like as of fire, which appeared unto them, and sat upon them, were the symbols; which was an instance of the great power and grace of Christ, and of his exaltation at the Father&#8217;s right hand. Or rather, this phrase is expressive of the awful judgments which should be inflicted by him on the Jewish nation; when he by his Spirit should &#8220;reprove&#8221; them for the sin of rejecting him; and when he should appear as a &#8220;refiner&#8217;s fire&#8221;, and as &#8220;fuller&#8217;s soap&#8221;; when &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">the <span>day of the Lord</span></span>&#8221; should &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;">burn as an oven</span>&#8220;; when he should &#8220;purge the blood of <span>Jerusalem</span>&#8220;, his own blood, and the blood of the Apostles and Prophets shed in it, &#8220;from the midst thereof, by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning&#8221;; the same with &#8220;the Holy Ghost and fire&#8221; here, or the fire of the Holy Ghost, or the holy <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">Spirit of fire</span>; <strong><em>and is the same with &#8220;the wrath to come&#8221;, and with what is threatened in the context: the unfruitful trees shall be cut down, and cast into the fire&#8221;, and the &#8220;chaff&#8221; shall be burnt with unquenchable fire&#8221;. And as this sense best agrees with the context, it may the rather be thought to be genuine</em></strong>; since John is speaking not to the disciples of Christ, who were not yet called, and who only on the day of <span>Pentecost</span> were baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire, in the other sense of this phrase; but to the people of the Jews, some of whom had been baptized by him; and others were asking him questions, others gazing upon him, and wondering what manner of person he was; and multitudes of them continued obdurate and impenitent under his ministry, whom he threatens severely in the context. <strong><em></p>
<p>Add to all this, that the phrase of dipping or baptizing in fire seems to be used in this sense by the Jewish writers</em></strong>.  In the <span>Talmud</span> (k) one puts the question, In what does he (God,) dip? You will say in water, as it is written, &#8220;who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand?&#8221; Another replies, בנורא טביל, &#8220;he dips in fire&#8221;; as it is written, &#8220;for behold the Lord will come with fire&#8221;. What is the meaning of טבילותא בנורא, &#8220;baptism in fire?&#8221; He answers, according to the mind of Rabbah, the root of &#8220;dipping in the fire&#8221;, is what is written; &#8220;all that abideth not the fire, ye shall make go&#8221; through the water. Dipping in the fire of the law, is a phrase used by the Jews (l). The phrases of &#8220;dipping, and washing in fire&#8221;, are also used by Greek (m) authors.&#8221; (Gill&#8217;s Exposition of the Bible, from <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.e-sword.net/commentaries.html" target="_blank">http://www.e-sword.net/commentaries.html <img src="http://www.layhands.com/zOffsiteLink.jpg" border="0" alt="Offsite Link" width="13" height="12" /></a>,                 <span style="font-weight:bold;">Matthew 3:11</span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;The baptism &#8220;with fire&#8221; referred to the judging and cleansing of those who would enter the kingdom, as prophesied in Malachi 3. This symbolism was carried through by John who spoke of the separation that occurs when a <strong>winnowing fork</strong> tosses up grain,                 <strong>wheat</strong> is then gathered                 <strong>into</strong> the                 <strong>barn,</strong> and                 <strong>chaff</strong> is burned                 <strong>up.</strong> John was saying that the Messiah, when He came, would prepare a remnant (wheat) for the kingdom by empowering and cleansing the people. Those who reject Him (chaff) would be judged and cast into eternal <strong>unquenchable fire</strong> (cf.<span style="font-weight:bold;"> Mal. 4:1</span>).&#8221;                 (<em>The Bible Knowledge Commentary</em>,                 Walvoord and Zuck, Dallas Theological Seminary, p.25) </span></p></blockquote>
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What it boils down to is that the Scriptural evidence points to the fire of judgment as the most likely meaning of the &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">baptism of fire.</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; However, we can&#8217;t really be dogmatic about this because there just isn&#8217;t that much information about it.</p>
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None of the three main views of the &#8220;</span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">baptism of fire</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">&#8221; has overwhelming Scriptural support, but in my opinion the third view has the most evidence to back it up.</p>
<p>Occasionally I receive emails from people who say that they have had experiences of the Holy Spirit in which it felt like a &#8220;fire&#8221; had come upon them, or that they were &#8220;set on fire for the Lord&#8221; after having a special experience of the Holy Spirit, and they interpret this as being the &#8220;baptism of fire.&#8221; I have had similar experiences myself, and they are awesome. But are these things really the baptism of fire? Since the Bible doesn&#8217;t give us much evidence, we can&#8217;t be dogmatic in saying that those experiences are, or are not, the <span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">baptism of fire</span></span>. Consider that there is no description anywhere in the <span>New Testament</span> of people receiving &#8220;<span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">the baptism of fire</span></span>,&#8221; so we can&#8217;t compare our special experiences of the Holy Spirit with any hard evidence in Scripture concerning such a baptism. We should be careful about allowing our doctrines to be dictated by our experiences, and if we say that what we were &#8220;feeling&#8221; was &#8220;the baptism of fire&#8221; then we would be making an <strong><em>assumption</em></strong> without any Scriptural support, and we would be using a label which &#8220;sounds&#8221; Biblical but which might not be accurate. Personally, I would want to be cautious about grabbing a label from Scripture and then applying that label to an experience when the Bible never applies that label to anyone&#8217;s experiences in the New Testament. I would want to have stronger Scriptural support before teaching that a &#8220;special experience of the Holy Spirit&#8221; is actually the </span><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif;">baptism of fire</span></span></span><span style="font-size:x-small;">.</p>
<p>Again, the evidence that I see in Scripture points to the fire of judgment as the most likely meaning of the &#8220;baptism of fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope this has been helpful, and may the Lord abundantly bless you as you study His Word!</p>
<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-style:italic;"> </span></span><span style="font-weight:bold;"> </span>Sincerely,</p>
<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-style:italic;"> Andrew Friedman</span></span></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Yesterday, Saturday, June 27th (hopefully it wasn&#8217;t anyone&#8217;s birthday) was my first scavenge. Not as successful as I would have liked but it was fun and sneaky (probably because the caches were being extra secretive and not showing their location). Thankfully, I had my good friend Andrea along for the journey. Or it would have been one long, boring venture. We also had my loyal companion Rocko &#8220;The Monster&#8221; Brown join us. He led for good company and  actually got into the theme of things by showing off his knack for &#8220;sneaking&#8221; up on people.</p>
<p>Anyway, so the trip started out with a quick find and then came to a complete halt. It is pretty sad but we unsuspectingly drove up on the first one and the hint for the cache was unbelievably helpful. The caches name was Hanna&#8217;s Dolphin located <span style="font-weight:bold;">N 30° 22.535 W 081° 23.964</span>. It took a bit of looking and there were some people hanging around so we had to act like we were looking for something we lost but it was very exciting when we found it!</p>
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<div class="mceTemp">Now I don&#8217;t know if this will be on any help but I figured I would show you an example of exactly what you are looking for. Because to be honest if we didn&#8217;t have that wonderful hint we would probably have skipped over it and had never know what we were looking for&#8230;</div>
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<div class="mceTemp">Well anyway, we signed the log left a rubber-band and an old movie ticket then carried on our journey.</div>
<div class="mceTemp">The next cache was NOOOO Where near easy. We trekked through the jungle (woods) got lost, followed a path, took a log bridge&#8230;</div>
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<div class="mceTemp">Got eaten by mosquitoes and ran into who knows how many banana spiders. We took this path will little complaint but still no find. It was in some area that was literally surrounded by spider webs. Ugh&#8230; we tried. Hannah&#8217;s Nature Trail <span style="font-weight:bold;">N 30° 22.529 W 081° 24.202 </span>was a bust. I am not going to let this one go to easily though. We know where it is at we just have to find a way in there. Next time we will chose different attire for this one&#8230; like long sleeves and for my dumb butt pants.</div>
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<div class="mceTemp">The final one should have been extremely simple. It is what they call a &#8220;grab and go.&#8221; You deucehole <span style="font-weight:bold;">N 30° 22.137 W 081° 24.272</span> Unfortunately there was no grab and go about it&#8230; first the comments said the find was about 50 feet off and they gave the &#8220;supposed&#8221; coordinates. Then we went to where we thought it would be and in what we thought it would be in and there was nothing. Plus it was starting to get dark and we were sweaty sweaty&#8230; so we started to roll back to the car. However, on the way back we heard some strange noise in the bushes and low and behold guess what we saw&#8230;</div>
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<div class="mceTemp">An armadillo! He said, &#8220;hey, what&#8217;s up fellow scavengers.&#8221; Then carried on his simple way.</div>
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<div class="mceTemp">Overall, the day might not have had the conclusion that we would have liked but we had a great time along the way. So, that is all that counts. But next time!!! You better believe that the eagle eyes are going to be put on and those caches will be found!!!</div>
<div class="mceTemp">Until next time, this is Jaymie from the toosneakyscavengers signing off!</div>
<div class="mceTemp">PEACE!</div>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Rod Stewart &#8211; Passion, You&#8217;re in my heart, I don&#8217;t want to talk about it Passion ]]></description>
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<h1><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tbJDVKuryA&#38;feature=related" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:medium;">Rod Stewart &#8211; Passion, You&#8217;re in my heart, I don&#8217;t want to talk about it</span></a></h1>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOz7TUnTRtI" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Passion &#8211; Rod Stewart live in Chile</span></span></a><br />
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<a href="http://www.spike.com/video/rod-stewart-passion/2788506?cid=YSSP" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:medium;">Rod Stewart &#8211; Passion</span></a></span><a href="http://www.spike.com/video/rod-stewart-passion/2788506?cid=YSSP" target="_blank"> <span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">(The Original!)</span></span></a></p>
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<span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">&#8220;<a href="http://www.spike.com/video/rod-stewart-passion/2788506?cid=YSSP" target="_blank">Passion</a>&#8220;</span></span><br />
&#8216;<span style="font-weight:bold;">Rod Stewart</span>&#8216;</div>
<div style="text-align:left;">Circa, <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">01/01/1980</span><br style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;" /></p>
<p><span style="color:#ff0000;">Somebody somewhere</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">In the </span><a id="EC_KonaLink0" style="text-decoration:underline!important;color:#ff0000;" href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rod+stewart/passion_20117216.html#" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight:400;font-size:15px;"><span style="font-family:&#34;font-weight:400;font-size:15px;">heat</span></span></a><span style="color:#ff0000;"> of the night</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Looking pretty dangerous</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Running out of patience</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Tonight in the city</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">You wont find any pity</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Hearts are being twisted</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Another lover cheated, cheated</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">In the bars and the cafes, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">In the  streets and the alleys, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">A lot of pretending, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Everybody searching, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Once in love youre never out of danger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">One hot night spent with a stranger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">All you wanted was somebody to hold on to yeah</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Passion, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Passion, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">New york, moscow,  passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Hong kong, </span><a id="EC_KonaLink1" style="text-decoration:underline!important;color:#ff0000;" href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rod+stewart/passion_20117216.html#" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight:400;font-size:15px;"><span style="font-family:&#34;font-weight:400;font-size:15px;">tokyo</span></span></a><span style="color:#ff0000;">, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><a id="EC_KonaLink2" style="text-decoration:underline!important;color:#ff0000;" href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rod+stewart/passion_20117216.html#" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight:400;font-size:15px;"><span style="font-family:&#34;font-weight:400;font-size:15px;">Paris</span></span></a><span style="color:#ff0000;"> and bangkok, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">A lotta people aint got, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Hear it in the radio, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Read it in the papers, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Hear it in the churches, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">See it in the school yards, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Once in love youre never out of danger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">One hot night spent with a stranger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">All you wanted was somebody to hold on to yeah</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Once in love youre never out of danger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">One hot night spent with a stranger</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">All you wanted was somebody to hold on to yeah</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Alone in your bed at night, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Its half past midnight, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">As you turn out your sidelight, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Something aint right, passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Theres no passion, theres no passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Theres no passion, I need passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">You need passion, we need passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Cant live without passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Wont live without passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Even the president needs passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Everybody I know needs some passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Some people die and kill for passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Nobody admits they need passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Some people are scared of passion</span><br style="color:#ff0000;" /><span style="color:#ff0000;">Yeah passion.</span></div>
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