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<title><![CDATA[Margin notes: Things I scribbled in the white spaces on Nov. 27, 2K9.]]></title>
<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/27/margin-notes-things-i-scribbled-in-the-white-spaces-on-nov-27-2k9/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
<guid>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/27/margin-notes-things-i-scribbled-in-the-white-spaces-on-nov-27-2k9/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Better is open rebuke than hidden love.&#8221; (Proverbs 27:5, ESV) It has taken science, in ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/notes-4.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1660" title="notes 4" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/notes-4.jpg" alt="" width="115" height="99" /></a>&#8220;Better is open rebuke than hidden love.&#8221; (Proverbs 27:5, ESV)</p>
<p>It has taken science, in the fields of Psychiatry and Psychology, thousands of years to catch up to this passage. In Psychological terms, this would be stated as : &#8220;Children would rather be disciplined than ignored.&#8221; Its true.</p>
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<p>The human soul, made to love God and be loved by Him, languishes in torment when it does not even receive God&#8217;s appointed tributary means through the love of other humans. Oh how we hate one another when we will not respond at all. We&#8217;d rather have open and humiliating rebuke, than to be so disregarded as to not even warrant that.</p>
<p>How painful then is hidden love. Perhaps you love your spouse, child, parent etc. &#8211; but do THEY know it? Do they have proof positive from you? Do YOU tell them and show them &#8211; not leaving either of those two necessities unexpressed?</p>
<p>As we take on the image of Christ, more and more we are bidden not to disregard anyone &#8211; but to love them, and so as to make them know it is love. God not only providentially cares for us, He speaks His love to us in His Word. We must have both.</p>
<p>&#8220;A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.&#8221; (John 13:34, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”&#8221; (John 13:35, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.&#8221; (John 15:12, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;These things I command you, so that you will love one another.&#8221; (John 15:17, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.&#8221; (Romans 12:10, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;Now concerning brotherly love you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love one another,&#8221; (1 Thessalonians 4:9, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere brotherly love, love one another earnestly from a pure heart,&#8221; (1 Peter 1:22, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.&#8221; (1 Peter 4:8, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8221; For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.&#8221; (1 John 3:11, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.&#8221; (1 John 3:23, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8221; Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.&#8221; (1 John 4:7, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.&#8221; (1 John 4:11, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.&#8221; (1 John 4:12, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another.&#8221; (2 John 5, ESV)</p>
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<title><![CDATA[SBL Deliverance of God Audio]]></title>
<link>http://ordinand.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/sbl-deliverance-of-god-audio/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>jonswales</dc:creator>
<guid>http://ordinand.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/sbl-deliverance-of-god-audio/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[I have battled my way in the last few weeks half-way through this important study by Douglas Campbel]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[I have battled my way in the last few weeks half-way through this important study by Douglas Campbel]]></content:encoded>
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<title><![CDATA[In the Soul]]></title>
<link>http://feileadhmor.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/in-the-soul/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>jm</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[The Doctrine of Revelation The work of the Spirit in the heart is as indispensable as was the work o]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Revelation/rev_14.htm"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><a href="http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Revelation/revelation.htm">The Doctrine of         Revelation</a></span></span></a><a href="http://feileadhmor.wordpress.com/files/2009/08/prayer1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-229" title="prayer" src="http://feileadhmor.wordpress.com/files/2009/08/prayer1.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="170" /></a></p>
<p><strong></strong>The work of the Spirit in the heart is as indispensable as was the work of Christ on the Cross. The necessity for the Spirit’s inward and effective operations are from the darkness, depravity and spiritual emptiness of fallen human nature. He alone can discover to us our dire need of Christ, convict us of our lost and ruined condition, create within us a hatred and horror of sin, bring us to consent to Christ’s sceptre, and make us willing in the day of His power to take Christ’s yoke upon us. By nature we are totally averse to holiness, and from birth have been accustomed to doing evil only. It is impossible for us to take into the arms of our affection a holy Christ until the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus first takes hold of us. Moreover, there is a transcendency in spiritual things which far exceeds the highest flight of natural reason. Nature stands in need of grace in order for the heart to be rightly <em>disposed </em>to receive the things of God, and no human culture or education can effect that. A Gospel which comes to us from Heaven can only be savingly known by an inward revelation from Heaven. The Gospel is a revelation of Divine grace, such as had never entered the heart of man to conceive, still less is it capable of comprehending it—their Author must apply it to the heart. &#8211; A. W. Pink</p>
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<title><![CDATA[At 3:55 am Monday morning, Nov. 23 - the World Lost a GREAT man.]]></title>
<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/24/at-355-am-monday-morning-nov-23-the-world-lost-a-great-man/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
<guid>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/24/at-355-am-monday-morning-nov-23-the-world-lost-a-great-man/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[This is Ivan Kellogg. In the world&#8217;s words, he WAS a great man. In God&#8217;s, by grace, he I]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/ivan-php.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1649" title="Ivan.php" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/ivan-php.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="265" /></a>This is Ivan Kellogg. In the world&#8217;s words, he WAS a great man. In God&#8217;s, by grace, he IS a great man. Not as the World counts greatness, but as God does.  For he never sought human accolades all the days I knew him. At least never as much as I could tell. He was my brother-in-law, youth leader (when I was young and REALLY a pain), fellow quartet member, my co-elder, and the best friend in life and ministry one could ever hope to have as a gift from God &#8211; because he would tell me the truth. Even when it really hurt.  I loved him. And I can&#8217;t wait to see him again in glory. I will miss him everyday until then.</p>
<p>I wrote the following for him based upon: Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all  sleep, but we shall all be changed &#8211; 1 Cor. 15:51</p>
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<p>Sleep well my friend</p>
<p>Till Dawn breaks full on that peaceful shore</p>
<p>No sorrow</p>
<p>No pain</p>
<p>No glance back at sin&#8217;s effects in body, soul or mind</p>
<p>Except</p>
<p>in the full healed scars the Savior still bears.</p>
<p>Sleep well</p>
<p>Until the trumpet sounds</p>
<p>When all the saints of all the ages</p>
<p>Rise to newness of life</p>
<p>Rise to put on immortality</p>
<p>Rise to sin no more</p>
<p>Rise to live His life</p>
<p>Rise</p>
<p>forever more.</p>
<p>Sleep now</p>
<p>the sweet sleep of the Just.</p>
<p>Not unconscious of glory</p>
<p>but wide awake in The Presence</p>
<p>glorying in all</p>
<p>once only imagined.</p>
<p>Now the possession held</p>
<p>by unbreakable grip.</p>
<p>Sleep but a little while longer</p>
<p>Till the Daystar rises</p>
<p>Rejoicing in the reasons here withheld.</p>
<p>Awed at The Wisdom.</p>
<p>Broken by The Love.</p>
<p>Swimming in Mercy as felt</p>
<p>as adrift in shore-less seas.</p>
<p>Drowning in Grace.</p>
<p>Till joined by all you left.</p>
<p>Sleep my friend.</p>
<p>Sleep your well earned rest.</p>
<p>Then haste with Christ to come for us.</p>
<p>Bid Him gather us up.</p>
<p>Pray Him change us all.</p>
<p>Plead Him wed His Bride.</p>
<p>Be among the first to rise</p>
<p>that we might praise Him</p>
<p>together</p>
<p>In redemption&#8217;s endless song.</p>
<p>Sleep.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Three Views: Book Review Part 2]]></title>
<link>http://arthurandtamie.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/three-views-book-review-part/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tamie</dc:creator>
<guid>http://arthurandtamie.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/three-views-book-review-part/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[In the last post, I highlighted some aspects of how Three Views on Eastern Orthodoxy and Evangelical]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>In the last post, I highlighted some aspects of how <a href="http://www.zondervan.com/Cultures/en-US/Product/ProductDetail.htm?ProdID=com.zondervan.9780310235392&#38;QueryStringSite=Zondervan">Three Views on Eastern Orthodoxy and Evangelicalism</a> was put together and the things I found helpful and disappointing. In this post, I want to get to some of the core theological issues.</p>
<p>East and West have long been at cross purposes, in many ways speaking different languages, not just in terms of Latin and Greek (in the ancient church) but also in terms of terminology and worldview. Thus Edward Rommen helpfully points out in his essay that where the East is more interested in relationships i.e. &#8220;new life with Christ&#8221;, the West concentrates on propositions i.e. &#8220;change in legal status&#8221; or &#8220;justification&#8221; (p.239). The question, though, is whether those differences are simply different emphases, or represent different beliefs entirely. This is the first book I have read on the topic. By no means am I an expert, but, from my limited viewpoint, there are three key theological issues, that, even once the language has been waded through, continue to be significant points of difference: anthropology (humans); soteriology (salvation); and authority.</p>
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<h2>Anthropology</h2>
<p>Anthropology, in the theological sense, is the study of humans &#8211; who they are and how we are to understand them. For many evangelicals, this boils down to the question of what the status of humans is before God; for many Orthodox, it is the question of how one relates to God. Much of the discussion revolves around different understandings of Rom 5:12ff. Orthodox insist that sin is not inherited from Adam but rather that each person &#8216;falls&#8217; on his own. The implication is that since humans are not irreparably damaged by sin, they can recover with the help of the Holy Spirit, by cooperating with the Trinity (p.150). In contrast, Michael Horton points out that if each of us is born to sin and death &#8220;in Adam&#8221; our hope must lie outside of ourselves, that is, in inheriting &#8220;Christ&#8217;s obedience, justification and immortality&#8221; (p.160) Are humans basically &#8216;good&#8217; on account of their imageness? Or are they evil beyond recovery apart from Christ because of the fall? Of course both questions hold an element of truth: the depravity of humans does not entirely negate the image; but nor does the image consume the depravity. Yet the danger of the Orthodox view must be that such an optimism leaves room for humans to contribute to their own salvation (p.73). However, this is God&#8217;s work, not ours. As Horton says, &#8220;We are not declared righteous because we have cooperated with Gods grace; we are justified &#8220;freely by his grace&#8221; (Rom 3:24) so that we can&#8217; (p.161).</p>
<h2>Soteriology</h2>
<p>An understanding of the nature of humans obviously affects how you expect salvation to come. My understanding of the Eastern Orthodox soteriology is that while they affirm that Jesus&#8217; death saves, the emphasis is on his incarnation. By this, they mean not only Jesus&#8217; life but also the church. If the church is his body, it is the extension of the incarnation: to be &#8220;in the church&#8221; is to be &#8220;in Christ&#8221;. Thus it is by participating in the church and in particular its sacraments, that union with Christ (salvation, in the Orthodox mind) is achieved. This raises the question of the role of faith. On one hand, Nassif argues that faith is necessary (p.71); on the other, he suggests that Communion (or the Eucharist as he calls it) really is Jesus&#8217; body and blood, another incarnation, in which case by taking it, a person is automatically joined to Christ (p.77). Nassif himself acknowledges that this may be the root of Orthodox nominalism (p.82, 86). In contrast, evangelicalism takes a much more personalised view of salvation, with the emphasis on the legal concept of justification. All the Orthodox writers affirmed this and then very quickly moved to explaining their larger vision of union with Christ. They support the biblical motif of justification, but unlike Calvin, for whom it was the &#8220;hinge on which all religion turns&#8221; (p.138), it is given little treatment. While the Orthodox maintain that this is because they see all the pieces of the puzzle, unlike evangelicals who are transfixed on but one, Horton argues that this underemphasis actually turns the puzzle into something else entirely.</p>
<h2>Authority</h2>
<p>Many evangelicals are suspicious of Roman Catholics for their location of authority in the Pope. The Patriarch in the Orthodox church does not carry the same position as the Pope and that&#8217;s an important distinction to make. However, nor does the Orthodox church carry &#8216;Scripture alone&#8217; as the authority, as near as I could make out. It is a little confusing: Nassif argues that Scripture is authoritative, as received and interpreted by the church (p.62-63); Berzonsky says that the Bible is not the ultimate source of truth at evangelicals believe, because to do so would be to equate it with Christ, but Christ is incarnate in the church, not a book (174-176); Rommen takes tradition as a tool to interpret Scripture but does not see that it has authority over it.  At the very least, it could be said that the role of Scripture and tradition is somewhat ambiguous in Orthodox understanding. While Nassif rightly criticises evangelicals for an historical amnesia which produces a spiritual and interpretative arrogance (p.67) he also admits to broad biblical illiteracy in his own church (p.85). Perhaps more to the point in terms of compatability, the Orthodox church leaves little room for further Biblical reformation of tradition. It also so roots the message in the tradition, that there is not only little room for Biblical reform, but indeed, a lack of tolerance for contextualisation of the gospel for evangelism (Nassif p.82; Hancock-Stefan p.211).</p>
<h2>Conclusions</h2>
<p>Nassif&#8217;s thesis that evangelicalism and Eastern Orthodoxy are compatible is based on a belief that all the core beliefs of evangelicalism exist in Eastern Orthodoxy, but that the latter is the more developed and mature form of Christianity (p.84). There is work to be done in bringing practice into line with this maturity (p.86) but it remains that Orthodoxy comes to grips with the Trinitarian God is a far richer way than evangelicalism. The evangelicals in this book, on the other hand, see that the &#8216;fuller&#8217; Orthodox understanding of the gospel actually takes its heart away: adding to the gospel subtracts from it.</p>
<p>But what does this mean for compatability? Unfortunately, none of the writers defined what they mean by &#8216;compatible&#8217;. Nassif calls for evangelicals to become Orthodox so that their principles might grow to maturity; Berzonsky calls for evangelicals to repent of their Reformation theology and become Orthodox (p.195). Rommen offers the suggestion of limited compatability, that is, that some things will never be agreed on (especially certain points of Western thought that the Orthodox church has anathematised p.249) but that there are some points on which there is considerable agreement.</p>
<p>What I noticed was this: by and large, the Orthodox and evangelicals agreed on their doctrine of God. The main areas of disagreement were the doctrine of man and of salvation. It is on this basis that I am happy to say that the Orthodox worship the same God as evangelicals, but that they have misunderstood the means of relating to him. If someone is a converted Orthodox (i.e. not nominal), they are my brother or sister. Yet, the distinctions highlighted in this book are not unimportant. There are significant pitfalls in the  Orthodox message of salvation. Until these are resolved, I suspect that respectful dialogue and separated traditions will continue to be the principal expression of any compatability.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Calvin on "the Law is not made for the righteous"]]></title>
<link>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/calvin-on-the-law-is-not-made-for-the-righteous/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
<guid>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/calvin-on-the-law-is-not-made-for-the-righteous/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[1Ti 1:9  &#8211; 9That the law is not made for a righteous man The apostle did not intend to argue a]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comparison: Rick Warren vs. Truth... Is Purpose Driven Church Deceptive?]]></title>
<link>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/comparison-rick-warren-vs-truth/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>truthinator</dc:creator>
<guid>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/comparison-rick-warren-vs-truth/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[ Deception Driven Church? You decide&#8230;   Stuart L. Brogden compiled this comparison between wha]]></description>
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<div>Stuart L. Brogden compiled this comparison between what Relevant Rick teaches in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Purpose Driven Church</span> and what the Bible teaches.</div>
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<p>All the work of all men contains error.  That I perceive error in Rick Warren’s work is not note worthy.  But the repeated patterns of false teaching over 20 or more years and 25 million or so books combine for something to take notice of.  This book proclaims an Armenian, man-centered view of the world and its Creator, claiming all the while to be a Biblically sound God-centered work.  I think it is actually Biblically bankrupt, gilded with the false gospel of pragmatism.  As subtle and dangerous as the serpent in the garden, Warren calls us to believe a lie.</p>
<p>Curious – Many people have criticized Rick Warren by calling him a disciple or associate of Robert Schuller.  Warren has denied in this in myriad letters and articles, wanting to put distance between himself and the father of “possibility thinking”.  So why does Warren include Schuller’s effusive endorsement of this book (on the third page of the endorsements in the front of the book)?  And why does so much of Warren’s instruction sound so much like Schuller (see quotes at the end of this review)?</p>
<p>“The Purpose Driven Church” (PDC) is a humanistic, psychological view of how to handle a church, sprinkled with scripture in whichever translation or version can most easily be used to allegedly support Warren’s claims.  Whereas “The Purpose Driven Life” started out with a truth and spent itself in contradiction, so does PDC – claiming rightfully (page 14) “Only God makes the church grow” – and spending nearly 400 pages telling man how to manipulate people into something that only looks like church growth.</p>
<p>The foreward is a sugary sweet, sappy tribute from a once credible W.A. Criswell.  In his opening statement, Criswell declares that “God could not have a given me a more beloved and effective ‘son in the ministry’ than Rick Warren.”  You know a man is wrong when he limits God or assigns human characteristics to Him.  Criswell claims Saddleback “has grown <em>without compromising the mission or the doctrine</em> of a New Testament church.”  (Italics in the original.)  We shall see.  Criswell parrots the Schuller/Warren principal – “If churches are to be successful in evangelizing our society, which is becoming more pagan by the day, they must learn to think like an unbeliever.”  (Sic)  Right there, Criswell shows that he has lost sight of the New Testament church.</p>
<p>In what appears to be the introduction, Warren tells us the church must “look for the spiritual waves” of church growth, saying “because our churches haven’t been taught the needed skills, we are missing the spiritual waves that could bring revival, health, and explosive growth to our churches.”  Evidently, Warren’s Bible is not adequate instruction to the church or its members on the topic of spiritual outreach and discipleship.  He shows us right off that he is focused on “growth”.  And in this introduction, as well as throughout the book, Warren pays lip service to God while heralding and teaching humanistic methods.</p>
<p>It appears, even in the introduction, that Warren has slipped into an Armenian worldview, saying churches need to ask, “What barriers are blocking the waves God wants to send our way?”  (pages 15 &#38; 16)  Poor, God Almighty – needs the church to move barriers out of the way.  Warren tells us (page 17) “the key issue for churches in the twenty-first century will be church <em>health</em>, not church growth.”  He then goes on to tell us, same page, that he’s “been a student of growing churches” for over twenty years. </p>
<p>On page 18, Warren rightly lauds the Bible, and then declares, “My greatest source of learning, however has been watching what God has done in the church I pastor.”  This pragmatic view – study men and how to motivate them &#8211; pervades this whole book, and everything of Warren that I’ve read.</p>
<p>In Part One, page 26 &#38; 27, Warren reciprocates Criswell’s sappy sweet foreword, quoting a Criswell prayer/prophecy of church growth for Warren, convinced that God had called him to pastor a church – sounding much like a mutual admiration society.  Warren admonishes us (page 27) to not “copy things we did without considering the context”, but to look at the “transferable principles”.  We will see what these “transferable principles” are shortly. </p>
<p>Still on page 27, Warren states, “Very little of Saddleback’s ministry was preplanned.”  Remember this claim.  He then devotes the balance of chapter 1 describing all the planning that went into the “planting” of Saddleback.  His research led Warren to conclude that the pastor is the key figure in the health and growth of the church, describing the pastor as the “daddy” of the church!  Any church that has this view of its pastor has already failed. </p>
<p>In spite of telling us that only God grows the church, Warren’s research drew him to the fastest growing population center in the country, a fact that “grabbed me by the throat and made my heart start racing.”  Lots of people moving into an area typified by upper middle class Americans certainly set a solid stage for numerical growth – a very pragmatic view. </p>
<p>On page 38, Warren recommends a list of preachers he heard on the radio.  While several on Warren’s list are sound pastors, he recommends to his reader Robert Schuller and John Wimber as well.  No disciple of Christ should recommend these false teachers to anyone, much less the wide and long term audience of a book. </p>
<p>And on the next page, Warren says that, with Saddleback, he ”determined to <em>begin</em> with unbelievers, rather than a core of committed Christians.”  Consider this statement carefully.  In the first case, the church is comprised of believers, not those who don’t believe.  By purposefully refusing to build his church surrounded by mature saints, there was nobody to hold Warren accountable as a preacher.  Who in this group of lost folks that he gathered could understand anything spiritual?  The Bible tells us those who are lost cannot discern spiritual matters.  A “pastor” with only lost people in his “church” is no pastor.  What Warren started was an evangelistic outreach to middle class lost Americans – not a church.  Near the end of this page Warren tells us he spent <em>12 weeks</em> studying lost folks in order to know what his “church” should be like.  “No planning” went into the founding of Saddleback, he told us.  Studying heathens, rather than scripture, was how he planned Saddleback.  Apparently without any elders or other biblical safeguards, he was swept away by one of the “spiritual waves” he was surfing for.</p>
<p>Page 44 – “pastor” Warren excitedly recounts how Saddleback “caught a wave”, when over 200 heathens showed up to the service designed with them in mind.  While many churches have operated in temporary settings, Warren touts Saddleback’s “homeless” years as if they were a special virtue.  Thankfully, he recounts a proper understanding of the Great Commission (page 46), yet he leaves this reader wondering how many of his “seekers” make it around the “bases” to becoming a “servant-hearted Christian.” </p>
<p>Starting on page 47, Warren uses “conventional wisdom” to create several straw-man myths to knock down.</p>
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<li>“Myth #1: The Only Thing That Large Churches Care About Is Attendance.”  While many have rightfully pointed out the tendency of many large churches to focus too much attention on attendance, I have never heard of any rational person saying it’s the <em>only</em> thing.  Warren’s own words, with the series of “if” statements leave out the essential bit of the Gospel, wherein the lost are confronted with their sin and the attendant need of a Savior.  He “validates” his Gospel-lite by observing, “it’s happening all over the world.”  On page 49 we are told that “Intentionally setting up a strategy and a structure to force ourselves to give equal attention to each purpose is what being a purpose-driven church is all about.”  None of Warren’s 5 listed purposes (page 49) convey the Gospel of Jesus Christ.</li>
<li>Myths 2, 3, &#38; 4: Once again, Warren touts all-or-nothing myths that are, in truth, common failings among many churches.  In talking about purpose #4, Warren discloses that his view of church discipline consists of dropping from membership those rogues who fail to fulfill the membership covenant.  I don’t think that’s what the Lord tells us in Matthew 18.</li>
<li>“Myth #5: If You Are Dedicated Enough, Your Church Will Grow.”  Any pastor who believes this “myth” has lost sight of Who builds the church.  To counter “good, godly pastors” who are dedicated yet have churches that are not growing, Warren provides a prescription that follows the same rabbit trail as his “myth” – relying on human effort.</li>
<li>“Myth #7: All God Expects of Us Is Faithfulness” In the short list that follows, Warren tells us we must also bear fruit (true) and makes it sound as if we can make ourselves be fruitful.  Bearing spiritual fruit is the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of saints, not a trait the person can develop.</li>
</ul>
<p>Let me take a break and say that I think pages 64, 65, 68 – 79, and 393 &#38; 394 are sound teaching.  Not all in this book is worthless or dangerous, but even these passages are mere “spiritual cotton candy”.</p>
<p>On page 77, Warren uses metaphorical, non-Biblical definitions to build a case for churches being driven.  In Scripture, the word drive and derivatives are used in conjunction with people being punished.  Those being treated kindly by God are led, as sheep, not driven.  Context is key to proper interpretation, and Warren strips a word out of its Biblical context and uses its tertiary meaning to lay the foundation for his whole trademarked “driven” model, pulling people away from the Biblical view of how God leads His children.</p>
<p>Near the bottom of page 79, Warren gives a welcome warning to not “allow seekers to drive the total agenda of the church.” – but I must confess that this book, as a whole, leads me to believe Warren allows “seekers” to drive entirely too much of his church’s agenda. </p>
<p>After listing, on pages 77 – 79, seven things that should not drive churches (tradition, personality, finances, programs, buildings, events, and seekers), he reveals, on page 80, “What is needed today are churches that are driven by purpose instead of by other forces.”  And, “You must begin to look at everything your church does through the lens of five New Testament purposes”.  Warren’s 5 purposes are culled from scripture, but, again, churches and saints are to be led by the Spirit of God – not driven by anything.  And his 5 purposes are not “the lens” of the Word.</p>
<p>On pages 86 &#38; 87, Warren uses different Bible paraphrases to ensure the word “purpose” is used.  On page 91, he tells us that the church in Philippi was “captivated by Paul’s mission” (Philippians 4:15); whereas Paul makes it clear that he preached Christ crucified and resurrected – people were captivated by Christ and led by His Spirit, not Paul’s “mission”.</p>
<p>On page 93, we are pointed to scripture for the correct question, but led to Warren’s self-proclaimed mentor, heathen business guru Peter Drucker, for the diagnostic standard: “Your church’s purpose statement must become the standard by which you measure your congregation’s health and growth.”  Oops.  I thought the Bible and the Holy Spirit give us everything needed to live a righteous life in Christ Jesus (2 Peter 2:1 – 3)</p>
<p>Page 95: Warren tells about a church that he claims was “theologically sound” and “sound asleep”.  He says, “the church leaders had become lazy and lethargic.”  That does not sound like a “theologically sound” church to me.  It appears to be labeled as such to create a straw man to be knocked down by Warren.</p>
<p>On the next page, Warren tells us, “Prior to starting Saddleback Church I took six months to do an extensive, personal Bible study on the church”.  Remember page 27 – not much planning went into Saddleback?  As part of Warren’s Bible study on the church, about a third of his listed scripture passages are from the four Gospel accounts – they describe Christ’s life, but not the church.  Remember – most of the life of Christ took place <em>before</em> the New Testament church was founded.</p>
<p>In Part Two, Warren describes “the 5 purposes for the church” – Biblically sound purposes but not completely sound in his exposition on them.  “Purpose #3: Go and make disciples.  This purpose we call <em>evangelism</em>.”  One must indeed evangelize (preach the Gospel to) lost folks before they can be discipled, but the focus of this aspect of the Great Commission is on the making of disciples – not evangelism.  Seeker sensitive churches are widely critiqued as being ineffective in discipleship – this error may explain that, in part.</p>
<p>In describing Saddleback’s purpose statement, Warren notes “three important distinctives”, the first of which is, “it is stated <em>in terms of results</em> rather than in terms of activity.”  This is a common failing of man – trying to control the results of his activities; pragmatism defined.  (From John MacArthur: “What is pragmatism?  Basically it is the philosophy that results determine meaning, truth, and value–what will work becomes a more important question than what is true.  As Christians, we are called to trust what the Lord says, preach that message to others, and leave the results to Him. But many have set that aside.  Seeking relevancy and success, they have welcomed the pragmatic approach and have received the proverbial Trojan horse.”)  Throughout His Word, God calls His people to obedience – not to results.  Often, the results He brings about are not what man expects or would seek.  I believe the Biblical pattern is to remind us that our efforts have no merit before God – only the work of Jesus does. </p>
<p>On page 109, Warren sums up his argument for your church to adopt his purpose-driven model by saying, “To do less <em>is to leave to chance</em> the great responsibility we’ve given by our Lord Jesus Christ.”  (emphasis mine)  This is another glimpse into what appears to be Warren’s Armenian view of God.  And if recommending Schuller and Wimber are not enough, Warren touts David (or Paul) Yonggi Cho’s occult Central Church in Seoul, Korea.  This man has written &#8220;You can create the presence of Jesus with your mouth.  He is bound by your lips and by your words.&#8221;  He and Schuller are fans of one another and disciples of the risen Lord Jesus should view neither of them credibly.</p>
<p>In chapter 6, Warren teaches pastors how to communicate their purposes.  He reviews the narrative of Nehemiah’s rebuilding of the wall around Jerusalem and discovers what he calls, “the Nehemiah principle”.  Since the Jews working on the wall grew discouraged after 26 days of work, Warren projects that onto every church and declares, “<em>Vision and purpose must be restated every twenty-six days to keep the church moving in the right direction.</em>”  Certainly, a degree of repetition is a hallmark of effective communication.  But the larger issue is that of deriving a key principle from a narrative contained in scripture.  This is a dangerous practice, the best example I can think of being Bruce Wilkerson’s subtly deceptive book, “The Prayer of Jabez”.</p>
<p>On pages 113 and 114, Warren encourages good personal management techniques – once again showing how to create “good results” by manipulating people and calling it God’s work.  “People tend to do whatever gets rewarded, so make heroes of people in your church when they do the work of the church.”  God tells us not to seek the applause or rewards of men, but to trust God who is faithful to reward those walk by faith, not by sight.  Biblical leadership often flies in the face of accepted “good personal management techniques.”</p>
<p>Warren stays on track into chapter 7, opening with a story about George Whitfield and John Wesley.  Whitfield preached 18,000 sermons to 100,000 people but left no organization behind, whereas Wesley left us the Methodist denomination – as if what we can see today determines the value of the work these men did.  And as far as I can tell, the Lord Jesus did not leave us much of an organization – what would Warren say about His legacy?  Further in this chapter, pages 126 &#38; 127, Warren recommends false teachers among others who are Biblically sound.  Check out the teachings of Dallas Willard, Richard Foster, and Peter Wagner – men who think themselves modern prophets and apostles of the church. </p>
<p>In discussing Saddleback’s “5 Circles of Community”, pages 131 and following, Warren tells us he focuses evangelism efforts on those who have already attended his church.  He is either derelict in failing to send witnesses out into the lost world or admitting his “church” is fairly well full of lost folks.  He admits that a heathen cannot worship God, but is “convinced that genuine worship is a powerful witness to unbelievers if it is done in a style that makes sense to them.”  Genuine worship is a spiritual act and impossible for a lost person to comprehend.  But note that Warren emphasizes the <em>style</em> of worship, as if the emotional connection with the music can save anyone.  And this from a man who adamantly maintains style and methods don’t matter in justifying his use of all sorts of culturally relevant music and drama.  He goes on to say, “If an unbeliever makes a commitment to regular attendance at Saddleback, I believe it will be just a matter of time until he accepts Christ.”  With Warren’s declared determination to avoid preaching the law or anything that would convict a lost person of his sin, one wonders what in Saddleback would cause anyone to be saved.  Time hanging with supposed saints won’t save anyone unless the Gospel is preached – which does not appear to happen at Saddleback.</p>
<p>On page 133, Warren describes Saddleback’s membership covenant, which requires “a commitment to three spiritual habits: (1) having a daily quiet time, (2) tithing ten percent of their income (Nowhere in scripture are Christian instructed – even implicitly – to tithe, but give as the Spirit of God leads and not under compulsion. &#8211; 2 Corinthians 9:6 &#38; 7), and (3) being active in a small group.”  This sounds like the chains of legalism – whereas the Bible tells Saints to be led by the Spirit in such matters.  He sets up this disclosure by describing people who are “dedicated to growing in discipleship” … “but they have not yet gotten involved in ministry.”  This is a contradiction in terms, indicating that pastor Rick has a non-Biblical definition of discipleship. </p>
<p>Warren says, “Jesus started where people were – at their level of commitment – but he never left them there.”  I do not see this when I read the Bible: lost folks have NO commitment to Christ.  He says Jesus “didn’t lay any heavy requirement” on John and Andrew, but every Jewish boy <em>knew</em> the total commitment required when a Rabbi bid one, “come”.  Further on page 135, Warren claims that Christ did not issue “his ultimate challenge to the crowd” until these people had hung around Him for three years and saw the ways in which He loved them.  “Jesus was able to ask for that kind of commitment only after demonstrating his love for them and earning their trust.”  Unlike sinful man, Jesus the Christ does not need to <em>earn</em> anything before He speaks Truth to anyone.  Warren puts too much emphasis on the lost person rather than on the Gospel. </p>
<p>In chapter 8, Warren tells us “There are ten areas you must consider as you begin to reshape your church into a purpose-driven church.”  Where in Scripture are pastors advised to “reshape” the churches they shepherd?  He says he cautions other churches to <em>not</em> clone Saddleback, yet lists 10 mandatory “principles”, 5 purposes, and his own “circles of influence” that these churches must embrace.  “Notice that I suggest you grow your church from the outside in, rather than from the inside out.”  Read the book of Acts – the church was made up of saints and disciples who were sent out into the cities, the reverse of what Pastor Rick suggests.  “The problem I have found with an ‘inside-out’ approach is that by the time the church planter has ‘discipled’ his core, they have often lost contact with the community and are actually afraid of interacting with the unchurched.”  This is another indication that Pastor Rick knows very little of Biblical discipleship, but at least gives credit for this backwards idea where it is due – false apostle C. Peter Wagner!</p>
<p>On page 139, we find out that the first year of Saddleback, when ostensibly everyone was lost except (?) Pastor Rick, he “preached very simple, straightforward evangelistic series such as ‘Good News About Common Problems’ and ‘God’s Plan for Your Life.’”  There are pop-psychology messages with a Bible flavor – not evangelistic, or Gospel, presentations.  How can he say that “most of them (the 200 attenders) were brand new believers.” considering his messages?  God’s Word shows the error of this approach: “<em>Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man&#8217;s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  <strong>But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.</strong></em>”  1 Corinthians 2:12 – 14</p>
<p>In a highlight box on page 156, we are admonished, “Never criticize any method that God is blessing!”  Yet all the criteria Warren urges us to use are that which the eye can see, and ignores the Biblical command to “<em>test all things, hold on to that which is good</em>” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), with “good” being in accordance with God’s view.  On page 157 we are urged to use market research to determine “when, where, and how” evangelism should be pursued and on page 158 tells us a church “driven by market forces rather than the Word of God” will be “unstable and unbiblical.”  One page is wrong, one is right. </p>
<p>Page 160, Warren continues in his study of man as first priority: “I must pay as much attention to the geography, customs, culture, and religious background of my community as I do to those who live in Bible times if I am to faithfully communicate God’s Word.”  The Word of God cannot be understood or communicated unless one seeks to know the literal, grammatical, and historical context of the text.  Nobody in scripture paid that much attention to the spiritually dead people they encountered.  They proclaimed the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus and commended men to believe on Him!</p>
<p>Pastor Rick advises us to tailor the presentation based on the worldly concerns our “crowd” is perceived as having – resulting in a false gospel that might as well be delivered by Joel Osteen.  By telling lost folks how God can make their marriage better, we teach people to look to the Lord for temporal rewards that satisfy our flesh.  But in truth, lost people need to know they are dead in sin, convicted by the Law, so they might realize their deepest need and cry out to the Lamb of God for mercy.  If “god” makes their life more comfortable and they are not confronted with their rebellion against the Holy Creator God, we have made their path to hell all the more pleasant – heaping judgment on ourselves (James 3:1).</p>
<p>Opening up chapter 10, page 173, Warren declares, “Even a casual reading of the New Testament will show that the Gospel spread primarily through relationships.”  Relationships are important, but the Gospel was and is spread through the <em>preaching</em> of it – mostly to people the preacher knows only superficially.  In the next page, we are told, “The people your church is most likely to reach are those who match the existing culture of your church.”  This is true if you do not make disciples and send them out into the world to proclaim the Gospel to all tongues and nations.  The church is not intended to be a reflection of the culture – it is, by definition, counter culture and intended to make a difference in the world.  Warren’s advice is for the church to be conformed to patterns of the world, contrary to Romans 12:1 – 2.</p>
<p>Pastor Rick reinforces this un-Biblical nonsense on pages 188 – 189, where we are told to think like lost people.  This is Warren’s interpretation of the scriptural mandate to “understand the times”?  He shows a shallow view of the Lord: “Jesus <em>often</em> knew what unbelievers were thinking.  He was effective in dealing with people because he understood and was able to defuse the mental barriers they held.”  (emphasis mine)  We are to believe that Jesus sometimes did not know what people were thinking – a limited God.  Warren tells us Christ relied on popular psychological theory in order to effectively deal with His creatures.  And we are once again told, “We must learn to think like unbelievers in order to win them. … “The problem is, the longer you are a believer, the less you think like an unbeliever.”  The Bible tell us the old man is dead – we have been re-born as children of God and are now “a peculiar people”; that we are to be salt and light; that lost folk love darkness because their deeds are dark; and that we are not to hide our light under a bushel.  Pastor Rick thinks the church exists to be valued by pagans!  Paul gives a different prescription in 2 Corinthians 4:3 – 6: “<em>But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus&#8217; sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.</em>”</p>
<p>You can read many objections from Rick Warren anytime someone publicly associates him with Robert Schuller.  But again, on page 190, Warren shows us how big an impact Schuller had on him.  It should not be a surprise that so many of Schuller’s people pleasing ways are embraced and endorsed by Warren.  Near the bottom of Page 191, this pearl: “The unchurched aren’t asking for watered-down messages, just practical ones.  They want to hear something on Sunday that they can apply on Monday.”  Warren’s idea of church is to help lost folks have a better life, according to the world’s standard.  The Creator’s idea of church is for the saints to come together for worship, discipleship, fellowship, and be sent into the world proclaiming the life, death, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus.  And yes, we welcome lost people into the church – we simply don’t expect them to be comfortable there.  They should be confronted with the Word of God and their sinful nature.</p>
<p>Warren’s own “tale of success” in the early days of Saddleback tells the sad truth in what is left unsaid.  He defined Saddleback as “a church for the unchurched”, and he attracted many of them, summing up with, “You have to decide who you want to impress.”  Warren wants to impress lost folk – his charge, however, is to honor God.  On page 195: “This is the heart of Saddleback’s evangelism strategy: We must be willing to catch fish on their own terms.”  Fish don’t want to be caught!  And lost men do not seek after God.  His Word doesn’t tell us to be on the same wavelength as lost men, He tells us to be fishers <em>of</em> men – different from them, with a mission they cannot understand.  Warren tells us (page 197) that he has determined that Jesus had no “standard approach” in evangelism.  He is talking about “style points”, not content or motive.  I am convinced that a careful reading of the New Testament shows that Jesus did have a “standard approach.  Evangelist Ray Comfort sums it up thusly – “With the Law we break the proud heart; with the gospel we heal the broken heart.”  And, “If we care about the lost, we will not hesitate to speak to them about sin, righteousness, and judgment … the way Jesus did.”  In Mark 10:17 – 22, the Lord used the law to expose the rich man as idolater, in John 5:45 – 47, Jesus confronts the Jews with the accusation of the Law of Moses.  In John 4:4 – 26 the Lord seeks out the woman at the well and uses the law to gently confront her with her sin – violating the 7<sup>th</sup> commandment.</p>
<p>On page 219, Pastor Rick says, “Jesus often established a beachhead for evangelism in a person’s life by meeting a felt need.”  And he cites not one example &#8211; because there are none.  Dr. Luke records this encounter with the “crowd”: “<em>And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them<strong>, If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.</strong>  And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.</em>”  (Luke 14:25 – 27)  The Apostle John recorded this encounter (John 6:24 – 27):  “<em>When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.  And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?  Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, <strong>Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.</strong>  Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.</em>”  And in verses 52 – 61: ”<em>The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?  Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.  Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.  For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.  He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.  As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.  This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.  These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.  Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?  <strong>When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?</strong></em><strong>” </strong> Culminating in verses 65 &#38; 66: “<em>And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. <strong> From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.</strong></em>”</p>
<p>Jesus doesn’t sound like Rick Warren.  To Whom shall we listen?</p>
<p>Ever the pragmatist, Warren tells us (page 224) that a passage in Luke 4 is all about Jesus “meeting needs and healing hurts.”  Jesus used that well known passage from Isaiah to establish His claim as Messiah, not “meet needs or heal hurts”.  On page 230, he beats the same drum: “The unchurched are not asking that we change the message or even dilute it, only that we show its relevance. …  I’ve found that the unchurched in America are very interested in Bible doctrine when it is applied in practical and relevant ways to their lives.”  What I’ve observed is that lost folks – whether they be “churched” or “unchurched” – want their ears tickled.  They want to be told that God loves them and wants them to be healthy and wealthy – things that are “practical and relevant”.  This is why prosperity gospel pimps such as T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen can fill up stadiums!  The Word of God tells us to preach the simple Truth and not work to earn the approval of men.  Lost folk do not need motivational messages on how to “live large with Jesus” – they need to repent and be saved.</p>
<p>Warren thinks (page 232) that the major purpose of Christ’s parables was to entertain folk and ensure they would remember His story.  But in Matthew 15, Mark 4, Mark 7, Luke 8, John 10 and other passages, His very own disciples failed to understand the parable and sought an explanation.  And while Pastor Rick cites Matthew 13:34, he did so as a proof-text, as verse 35 makes clear: He spoke in parables to fulfill scripture, not to satisfy the felt needs of unchurched Harry.  But if His purpose was as Warren claims, why did so many people need – and still need – an explanation of them?  To close this question, the Lord Himself gives us the answer in Matthew 13:10 – 13 (<strong><em>And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?  He answered and said unto them, Because</em></strong><em> <strong>it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. </strong> For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.  Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.</em>)  And Luke 8:9 – 10 (<em>And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be?  And he said, <strong>Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand</strong>.</em>)</p>
<p>On page 241, “America’s Pastor” tells us “More people are won to Christ by <em>feeling God’s presence</em> than by all our apologetic arguments combined.”  This is a false argument: apologetics is not what wins people to Christ – the Gospel does that.  It is by preaching the Word of the Lord that people are saved – not by feeling anything.  He ascribes the salvation of the 3,000 people recorded in Acts 2 to their having felt God’s presence.  But the Bible makes it clear that the Spirit of God empowered Peter and it was the Word of God proclaimed by Peter that caused the response.  Read Acts 2:1 – 36 to see the set-up and the message of Christ crucified.  Then in verses 37 &#8211; 41: “<em>Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?  Then <strong>Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins</strong>, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.  And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.  <strong>Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.</strong></em>”</p>
<p>Do you perceive these people were saved by having “felt God’s presence” or by the Word of God piercing their sinful hearts?</p>
<p>Page 243, Warren joins countless seeker sensitive fans by misappropriating 1 Corinthians 14:23.  Paul’s main argument was not to restrict the use of tongues so lost people wouldn’t think them foolish – this is a final argument in Paul’s long, passionate discourse against the improper use of this spiritual gift.  His main point was to encourage the saints to speak in a known tongue so others in the church could understand them.  It’s almost “and by the way, don’t you see how a heathen who might wander in here could think you mad?”  It was not normative in the early church for lost people to fill up the meeting place.  The church was of and for believers.</p>
<p>On pages 244 and 245 Warren furthers his humanistic view that unchurched people ought to have their felt needs addressed from the pulpit.  He again tells us these unchurched “expect to hear the Bible when they come to church.”  How would such a person know what to expect from the Word of God?  Go back to 1 Corinthians 2:12 – 14.  Pastor Rick tells us “They are looking for solutions, not a scolding.”  The problem for Rick and other seeker sensitive pastors is that unless a lost person is confronted with his condition (being dead is sin) he will not see any value in the Lamb of God.  The Gospel is not a scolding – but neither is it offering solutions to life’s circumstantial problems.  Warren instructs, “Design one worship service to edify believers and another service to evangelize the unchurched friends brought by your members.”  He then describes how he has marginalized the Saints by devoting weekends at Saddleback to lost folks.  We can readily surmise that Saddleback is a church on Wednesday evenings, but not on Saturdays or Sundays.</p>
<p>In chapter 14 – Designing a Seeker-Sensitive Service, Warren once again relies on and recommends a false prophet to make his point – citing “Apostle” Peter Wagner on page 267:  “When you run out of space, you experience what Pete Wagner calls ‘sociological strangulation’.”  But many churches have experienced true fellowship and spiritual growth while struggling with the logistical constraints of what experts see as too little space.  My wife heard a pastor in such a situation say, “Some pastors think you need 200 square feet per person.  We have 200 people per square feet!”  And he was praising God – not complaining about being “sociologically strangled.”</p>
<p>On to chapter 16 – Preaching to the Unchurched, Pastor Rick says, “The common ground we have with unbelievers is not the Bible, but our common needs, hurts, and interests as human beings.”  This is fine guidance on how to start a fraternal organization, such as a Rotary Club – the Bible tells us that unbelievers’ greatest need is salvation.  That we saints share some of the same sinful “habits and hang-ups” as the “unchurched” can be an encouragement to the lost, as we teach them that <em>all</em> are unworthy apart from Christ.  Nowhere in this chapter does Pastor Rick advise the use of the law to convict people of their sin; he only wants the lost folk to know they are valuable and loved, etc.  They may well go to hell thinking this, having never been convicted of sin or saved by grace.  Good feelings save nobody.</p>
<p>On page 312, Warren poses a handful of questions that unchurched people want answered before they are willing to join the church:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do I fit here?</li>
<li>Does anybody want to know me?</li>
<li>Am I needed?</li>
<li>What is the advantage of joining?</li>
<li>What is required of members?</li>
</ul>
<p>Rick shows us, once again, that his focus is on growing the “church” by answering the “felt needs” of the flesh – not following the Biblical mandate on how to lead a flock of believers.  He is building a social fraternity and calling it “church”.</p>
<p>In chapter 16 – Turning Members into Ministers, Warren mixes some solid Biblical instruction with a humanistic, Jungian psychological matrix appraisal of people – his five SHAPE factors.  A detailed comparison of Warren’s SHAPE to Jungian psychology and God’s Word can be found at the end of this review.</p>
<p>Page 384, Warren again confirms he sees man as more important than does our Creator: “The most critical factor in a new ministry isn’t the <em>idea</em>, but the <em>leadership</em>.”  Jesus, the most important human ever, said this about Himself vs. the message (or idea): “<em>When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that <strong>I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things</strong>.</em>  (John 8:28)”, “<em>but I have called you friends; for <strong>all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you</strong>.  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you,</em> (John 15:15b – 16a).”  The Bible tells us the main thing is the message, not the messenger.</p>
<p>Lastly, page 395 – “Purpose-driven churches are led by purpose-driven leaders.”  Although I care nothing for Warren’s penchant for using “purpose-driven”, leave it aside.  Consider this – Churches are led by leaders.  Now consider the Words of the One Who “wrote the Book” on “how to do church”:  “<em>Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.</em></p>
<p><em>And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.”</em>  (2 Timothy 2:1 – 2)  And recall the Words of Jesus, above – He spoke and worked only what His Father told Him.  <strong>The only leadership is from God and the truly effective pastor will be purposeful and Spirit led.</strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Quotes from Schuller – or is it Rick Warren?</span></p>
<p>Rick Warren denies virtually every connection and influence with or of Robert Schuller.  But judge for yourself – read a few choice quotes from Schuller and see if Warren’s teaching doesn’t line up near perfectly.  Read more at <a href="http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac23.htm">http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac23.htm</a></p>
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<p><strong>&#8220;Yes, here is a theology for church growth.  Here is a theology for success, for the secret of success is to find a need and fill it.  Truly, when the church reforms and refines all of its theological expressions around every person&#8217;s daily need for self-affirmation, it shall flourish &#8216;like trees planted by rivers of water.&#8217;&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 175)</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;People who have studied our work and read our materials have said that historically we are not like other churches.  Denominations and religions started with teaching a theology about God.  Whenever there was disagreement with each other about a certain detail, the result was to establish a new religion or branch thereof, so today there are many different denominations and lots of different religions.  When I started this ministry, I chose to focus on human need and said, </strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Let&#8217;s ask what a human being really is?  What does he need?&#8221;  And is there a God who can provide for those needs and what kind of God does he need?  So we started talking about the needs in humanity and we defined the single deepest need of the human being.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>(Robert Schuller, &#8220;Mirror or Window People: Which Are You?”  August 2, 2004)</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Classical theology has erred in its insistence that theology be &#8216;God-centered,&#8217; not &#8216;man-centered&#8217;.&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 64) </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;The classical error of historical Christianity is that we have never started with the value of the person.  Rather, we have started from the &#8216;unworthiness of the sinner,&#8217; and that starting point has set the stage for the glorification of human shame in Christian theology.&#8221;  (Robert Schuller, &#8220;Self-Esteem: the New Reformation,&#8221; page 162)</p>
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<h1>THEIR CONNECTION ON PERSONALITY THEORY</h1>
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<td width="32%" valign="top">“When you minister in a manner consistent with the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">personality</span> God gave you, you experience <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fulfillment</span>, satisfaction, and fruitfulness.” (The Purpose Driven Life, p. 246)“…when you are forced to minister in a manner that is “out of character” for your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span>, it creates tension and discomfort, requires extra effort and energy, and produces less than the best results. This is why mimicking someone else’s ministry never works. You don’t have <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">their</span></em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> personality</span>.” (PDL, p. 245)</td>
<td width="32%" valign="top">“…the ultimate aim and strongest desire of all mankind is to develop that <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fulness</span> (sic) of life which is called <span style="text-decoration:underline;">personality</span>… To the extent that a man is untrue to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the law of his being</span> and does not rise to personality, he has failed to realize his <span style="text-decoration:underline;">life’s meaning</span>.” (The Development of Personality, Collected Works 17; from The Essential Jung, pg. 191, 207)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">There is absolutely no biblical precedent for this position. Personality typology has <em>never</em> been a criteria for God choosing someone for ministry, but is in great part grounded in Jungian psychology. Did Paul rely on personality assessment to guide his ministry? Hardly&#8230;</p>
<p>“God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, and the base things of the world and the despised, God has chosen, the things that are not, that He might nullify the things that are, that no man should boast before God.” 1 Cor 1:27-29</p>
<p>“And He has said to me, ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.’ Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ&#8217;s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.” 2 Cor 12:9-10</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“You may be driven by a painful memory, a haunting fear, or an <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> belief.” (PDL, p. 27)“(Guilt-driven people) often <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconsciously</span> punish themselves by sabotaging their own success.” (PDL, pp. 27-28)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“The <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> . . . is the source of the instinctual forces of the psyche and of the forms or categories that regulate them, namely the archetypes.” (The Structure of the Psyche, CW 8, par. 342)“Constant observation pays the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> a tribute that more or less guarantees its cooperation. One of the most important tasks of psychic hygiene [is] to pay continual attention to the symptomatology of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious</span> contents and processes.” (The Portable Jung, New York: Penguin Books, 1986, p. 156)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">The “unconscious” is the foundational concept of both Freudian and Jungian psychology, and has no biblical basis whatsoever. In fact, Scripture does not allow for the idea that people are “driven” by an “unconscious belief.” By endorsing the idea of the unconscious, Warren is promoting the Jungian belief that people must analyze the forces of the unconscious to discover their life’s purpose. According to Scripture, any driving force outside of God’s will is sin, no matter where it resides. Psychology, however, downplays our personal accountability for sin by making the “unconscious” the ultimate reservoir and bastion of unavoidable human instinct.</p>
<p>“And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: <span style="text-decoration:underline;">for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.</span>” Romans 14:23</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“If I asked how you picture life, what image<em> </em>would come to your mind? That <span style="text-decoration:underline;">image</span> is your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">life metaphor</span>. It’s the view of life that you hold, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciously or</span> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconsciously</span>, in your mind.” (PDL, pp. 41-42)“Your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unspoken life metaphor</span> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">influences</span> your life more than you realize. It <span style="text-decoration:underline;">determines</span> your expectations, your values, your relationships, your goals, and your priorities.” (PDL, p. 42)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“An archetypal content expresses itself, first and foremost, in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">metaphors</span>.” (“The Psychology of the Child Archetype,” CW 9i, par. 267)Archetypes are not inborn ideas, but “typical forms of behaviour which, once they become <span style="text-decoration:underline;">conscious</span>, naturally present themselves as <span style="text-decoration:underline;">ideas</span> and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">images</span>, like everything else that becomes a content of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciousness</span>.” (Collected Works 8, par. 435)</p>
<p>“Indeed, the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">fate of the individual</span> is largely dependent on <span style="text-decoration:underline;">unconscious factors</span>.” (“Conscious, Unconscious, and Individuation” CW 9)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">The analysis of “metaphors” housed in the unconscious is a trademark concept of psychology, not of Scripture. The use of images, fantasies, and dreams to better understand our “unconscious” is a signature feature of Jungian psychotherapy that borders on the occult.</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“God made <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverts</span></em> and <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverts</span></em>… He made some people <em>‘<span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinkers</span>’ </em>and others <em>‘<span style="text-decoration:underline;">feelers</span>.’” </em>(PDL, p. 245)“Your personality will affect <em>how</em> and <em>where</em> you use your spiritual gifts and abilities. For instance, two people may have the same gift of evangelism, but if one is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> and other is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverted</span>, that gift will be expressed in different ways.” (PDL, p. 245)</p>
<p>“Ask yourself questions:… Am I more <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> or <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extroverted</span>? Am I more a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinker</span> or a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">feeler</span>?” (PDL, pp.251-252)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“Two types (of typical differences in human psychology) especially become clear to me; I have termed them the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> and the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extraverted</span> types.” (“Introduction” Psychological Types, CW 6 par. 1)“I have found from experience that the basic psychological functions, this is, functions which are genuinely as well as essentially different from other functions, prove to be <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">thinking</span>, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">feeling</span>, sensation</em>, and <em>intuition</em>. If one of these functions habitually predominates, a corresponding type results. I therefore distinguish a thinking, a feeling, a sensation, and an intuitive type. <em>Each of these types may moreover be either <span style="text-decoration:underline;">introverted</span> or <span style="text-decoration:underline;">extraverted</span>…</em>” (“Introduction” Psychological Types, CW 6)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Warren is explicitly using the specific terminology of the psychological typology theory originally conceived by Carl Jung. Despite the claims of his supporters, Warren has clearly based his Personality Theory (the &#8220;P&#8221; in his SHAPE teaching) on the unbiblical foundation of Jungian psychology.“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8</p>
<p>“Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.” 1 Cor 2:12-13</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“The Bible gives us plenty of proof that God uses all types of personalities. Peter was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">sanguine</span></em>. Paul was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">choleric</span></em>. Jeremiah was a <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">melancholy</span></em>. When you look at the personality differences in the twelve disciples, it’s easy to see why they sometimes had interpersonal conflict.” (PDL, p. 245)“There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span><em> </em>for ministry.” (PDL, p. 245)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“…the physicians of ancient times…tried to reduce the bewildering diversity of mankind to orderly groups… The very names of the Galenic <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperaments</span> betray their origin in the pathology of the four “humours.” <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Melancholic</span></em> denotes a preponderance of black bile, <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">phlegmatic</span></em> a preponderance of phlegm or mucus, <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">sanguine</span></em> a preponderance of blood, and <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">choleric</span></em> a preponderance of choler, or yellow bile.” (“Psychological Typology” CW 6)“The whole make-up of the body, its constitution in the broadest sense, has in fact a very great deal to do with psychological <span style="text-decoration:underline;">temperament</span>…” (“Psychological Typology” CW 6)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Despite Warren’s claim, the Bible never gives “proof” of the classification of personalities; it is a purely pagan concoction. The four temperaments, as conceived by Hippocrates and later developed by Galen, was a prevalent Greek philosophy during the time of Paul’s apostolic ministry. Unlike Warren and Jung, however, Paul did not implement these Greeks ideas into his teachings. In fact, he categorically rejected them and “determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified” (I Cor 2:2).“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:” I Timothy 6:20</p>
<p>Worse yet, Warren is teaching that a person’s “no right or wrong” personality is somehow unaffected by the fall and is always beneficial for ministry. How, we ask, does a “phlegmatic temperament” towards laziness and slothfulness serve God’s purpose in ministry?</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“Today there are many books and tools that can help you understand your personality so you can determine how to use it for God.” (PDL, p. 246)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">MBTI is “based on Jung’s theory of psychological types.” (Isabel Briggs Myers, Introduction to Type, Palo Alto, CA: Consulting Psychologists Press, 1983, p.4)“The (MBTI) Indicator was developed specifically to carry Carl Jung’s theory of type (Jung, 1921, 1971) into practical application.” (Dr. Gordon Lawrence, People Types &#38; Tiger Stripes, p. 6, also p. x)</p>
<p>“Carl Jung’s psychology lies behind&#8230;the MBTI.” (Robert Innes, Personality Indicators and The Spiritual Life, p.8)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Without qualifying this statement, Warren is promoting any and all Jungian personality and temperament tests and theories, including the widely-used Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), the Kiersey Temperament Sorter (an offshoot of the MBTI), and the Enneagram Test, which has its origin in Sufism, a mystical offshoot of Islam. (Click <a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0146a.html" target="_blank">here</a> for more information on Enneagram).Despite the contrary advice offered by Warren, Christians must acknowledge the Bible as the only book needed to understand the human condition:</p>
<p>“For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12</p>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“Every behavior is motivated by a belief, and every action is prompted by an attitude. God revealed this thousands of years <span style="text-decoration:underline;">before psychologists understood it</span>.” (PDL, p. 181)</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“(Unconscious phenomena) manifest themselves in the individual’s behaviour… ” (“Conscious, Unconscious, and Individuation” CW 9)“Modern psychological development leads to a <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much better understanding</span> as to what man really consists of.” (“Psychology and Religion” CW 11)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Warren is suggesting here that psychologists have the same understanding as God on the issue of human behavior, thus putting man’s “wisdom” on equal footing with God’s revelation.If Warren truly believes in the preeminence of God’s revelation to understand man, then why does he rely so heavily on the “useless wisdom” of psychology instead of Scripture?</p>
<p>“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, ‘He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS‘; and again, ‘THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS.’” I Cor 3:19-20</td>
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<td width="33%" valign="top">“The best use of your life is to serve God out of your shape. To do this you <span style="text-decoration:underline;">must discover your shape</span>, learn to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">accept</span> and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">enjoy</span> it, and then <span style="text-decoration:underline;">develop it</span> to its fullest potential.” (PDL, p. 249)The SHAPE program states: “To <span style="text-decoration:underline;">discover your S.H.A.P.E.</span> is to discover where God is calling you to do His work in the world.”</td>
<td width="33%" valign="top">“Only the man who can <span style="text-decoration:underline;">consciously assent to the power of the inner voice</span> becomes a personality.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)“The <span style="text-decoration:underline;">achievement of personality</span> means nothing less than the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">optimum development</span> of the whole individual human being.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)</p>
<p>“In so far as every individual has the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">law of his life</span> inborn in him, it is theoretically possible for any man to follow this law and to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">become a personality</span>, this is, to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">achieve wholeness</span>.” (“The Development of Personality” CW 17)</td>
<td width="34%" valign="top">Finding your SHAPE has no biblical support. Warren’s teaching that one must “discover his shape” is philosophically and systematically akin to Jung’s teaching that a man must “consciously assent to the power of the inner voice” and be true to “the law of his being.”While Warren has rightly acknowledged God’s sovereign purpose in creating us, he has mistakenly made God’s divine purpose synonymous with our so-called “shape” by advocating the Jungian idea of developing the personality to “achieve wholeness.” This Jungian process, however, does not serve God, but serves the god within us.</p>
<p>Scripture calls for an active, heartfelt obedience to God’s will through the transforming power of the Spirit, not a misguided exploration of our natural psychological makeup to define our God-given purpose.</p>
<p>“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” Proverbs 3:5-6</p>
<p>“…your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.” 1 Cor 2:5</td>
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<p>Do you love the thought that you exist to make God look glorious?  Do you love the thought that all creation exists to display the glory of God?  Do you love the truth that all of history is designed by God to one day be a completed canvas that displays in the best way possible the greatness and beauty of God?  Do you love the fact that Jesus Christ came into the world to vindicate the righteousness of God and repair the injury that we had done to the reputation of the glory of God?  Do you love the truth you personally exist to make God look like what he really is—glorious?  I ask again: Do you love the fact that your salvation is meant to put the glory of God’s grace on display?  Do you love seeing and showing the glory of God?</p>
<p>This is why God created the universe.  This is why he ordained history.  This is why he sent his Son.  This is why you exist.  Forever to see and enjoy and show the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.  The question at the end of Romans 1-11 is.  Do you embrace this calling as your treasure and your joy?</p>
<p>If not, I must explain this to you:</p>
<p>You will glorify God regardless.  You will either willingly glorify Him by displaying His grace and mercy, or you will unwillingly glorify Him by displaying His justice in your righteous damnation to spend eternity in hell.  This glorifying of God is no small matter.  Your eternal destiny hangs on it.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Margin notes and - The Manhattan Declaration]]></title>
<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/20/margin-notes-and-the-manhattan-declaration/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
<guid>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/20/margin-notes-and-the-manhattan-declaration/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[“Take wives and have sons and daughters; take wives for your sons, and give your daughters in marria]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/index.php"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1642" title="manhattan_declaration220x55trans" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/manhattan_declaration220x55trans.png" alt="" width="220" height="55" /></a>“Take wives and have sons and daughters; take wives for your sons, and give your daughters in marriage, that they may bear sons and daughters; multiply there, and do not decrease. But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare. For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Do not let your prophets and your diviners who are among you deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams that they dream, ” (Jeremiah 29:6–8, ESV)</p>
<p>Thoughtful Christians often wonder how it is we can engage the broader culture, especially in regard to issues like same-sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia, and religious freedom. I personally struggle with finding meaningful, intelligent and practical ways to do so. Today, I believe I was able to do so in one way &#8211; by signing my name to the <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><a href="http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/index.php">Manhattan Declaration.</a></span></strong></p>
<p>Rather than me waxing eloquent on it, please take the time to follow <a href="http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/index.php">THIS LINK</a> or click on the logo above and read &#8211; consider &#8211; pray, and hopefully, sign. The statements and arguments are sound, cogent and form a wonderful platform to help you discuss these issues in personal settings with others. I highly encourage you to check it out.</p>
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<link>http://fruitoftheword.com/2009/11/19/effectual-call-of-god-versus-general-call-of-god/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tishrei</dc:creator>
<guid>http://fruitoftheword.com/2009/11/19/effectual-call-of-god-versus-general-call-of-god/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisibl]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Wrestling with texts at a midweek Eucharist]]></title>
<link>http://dbhamill.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/wrestling-with-texts-at-a-midweek-eucharist/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>dbhamill</dc:creator>
<guid>http://dbhamill.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/wrestling-with-texts-at-a-midweek-eucharist/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[When I read the texts for tonight my first response was O Lord why these texts? I bring my wrestling]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://dbhamill.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/break-the-bread-1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-178" title="break the bread 1" src="http://dbhamill.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/break-the-bread-1.jpg?w=294" alt="" width="294" height="300" /></a>When I read the texts for tonight my first response was O Lord why these texts? I bring my wrestling so you too can wrestle…</p>
<p><strong>Luke 13: 22-30</strong></p>
<p>Jesus is asked ‘will only a few be saved’ and we want him to answer, ‘No everyone will be saved. God is love. God is not willing that any should perish’. But Jesus offers no reassurance to those who question him this time. He doesn’t exactly answer the question either. He doesn’t want them to assume that they will get be part of God’s kingdom.</p>
<p>Jesus obviously hasn’t done pastoral 101. He tends here to cast doubt on their ultimate salvation. The way is narrow. Many will come and want to enter, but be unable to. Apparently because it’s too narrow. Diet, diet! Strive to enter in.</p>
<p>And then the master of the house closes the door, and Jesus questioners start knocking… Jesus is putting them into his story, not very encouraging to those who come asking theological questions…. The master replies ‘I don’t know where you come from’. It reminded me of the modern phrase, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know where you&#8217;re coming from.&#8221;&#8230;. Strange people!</p>
<p>What sort of pastor has no interest in telling people they are ok. If someone comes to me and says, Bruce, I’ve done terrible things, my life is a mess, I think I want to die, I’m a waste of space. Will I get into the kingdom of God? Everything in me wants to respond. Rubbish, you’re ok, you’re not so bad. There are lots of people worse than you. The way is broad. But when I think about it, my response has more to do with my needs than the other person’s situation. They might not be ok. They may need most of all to repent.</p>
<p>Many, will come from east and west and north and south… and will eat in the kingdom of God… This sounds a bit more hopeful. Now Jesus imagines <em>many</em> feasting (perhaps after all the dieting to get through the narrow door).</p>
<p>Perhaps many do get in, after the initial rejection … it’s just that some get in first and some last… The whole thing reverses everybody’s expectations.</p>
<p>Jesus concludes ‘some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last’. Jesus the revolutionary speaking. The world of the kingdom will be a stark contrast with the sense of what it is to be successful in this world.</p>
<p>Just when all our carefully nurtured ideas lie wounded on the ground Ephesians sticks the knife in somewhere else…</p>
<p><strong>Eph 6: 1-9</strong></p>
<p>My initial question is “How dare the writer accept slavery without raising an eyebrow?!</p>
<p>Then it occurs to me that perhaps here is where we see the revolutionary impact of Jesus. Jesus last words to his disciples, before he was taken away by soldiers, of an empire which enslaved the world by the sword was ‘put down your sword’.</p>
<p>As he said elsewhere, ‘Those who live by the sword die by the sword’ and ‘It will not be so among you.’</p>
<p>The one who refused the violent revolution inspires Paul (or the writer of the letter to Ephesus) to encourage <em>subversion by love</em>. Paul does not renounce the evil of slavery, but then neither does he expend a lot of breath denouncing the evil Empire that maintains it. Perhaps he knows that the empire and the institution of slavery will fall, not by the sword but by love. Perhaps he knows that even if it doesn’t fall, this response is the one that Christians are called to. So if slaves start to serve their masters not as if their master owned them, but because they are first of all slaves of Christ, and in the real world of God’s kingdom they stand alongside their masters together as brothers and sisters under the Lordship of the risen Christ. And if masters start to treat their slaves as brothers and sisters in Christ… If these things happen the world will change… just as the household and public divisions between men and women changed.</p>
<p>There was no Wilberforce in Paul’s day… it was very different. But the same Gospel ended up inspiring William Wilberforce many centuries later.</p>
<p>Maybe the real revolution happens when the world is subverted from within and slaves and their master sit together around the same table… the table of the Lord.</p>
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<link>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/is-living-like-jesus-enough/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
<guid>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/is-living-like-jesus-enough/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Not according to the Apostle Paul&#8230; Listen to this very pertinent and timely issue of the White]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Margin Notes Recommendation - Drowning in the Tiber ]]></title>
<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/18/margin-notes-recommendation-drowning-in-the-tiber/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
<guid>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/18/margin-notes-recommendation-drowning-in-the-tiber/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[&#8220;One who is full loathes honey, but to one who is hungry everything bitter is sweet.&#8221; (P]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://www.tonybartolucci.com/sermons.htm"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1633" title="TiberLogo (1)" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/tiberlogo-1.jpg" alt="" width="447" height="506" /></a>&#8220;One who is full loathes honey, but to one who is hungry everything bitter is sweet.&#8221; (Proverbs 27:7, ESV)</p>
<p>The disturbing migration of former &#8220;evangelicals&#8221; to Romanism in the past few years was spotlighted in 2007 when Francis Beckwith &#8211; once president of the Evangelical Theological Society stepped down from that position as he too re-embraced the Roman Catholicism of his youth. My own view is simply that when there is no real conversion to Christ and true regeneration &#8211; what is lacking in genuine spiritual reality must be replaced by something &#8211; which something many think they find in the flourishes of a ritualistic framework which mimics the true majesty of Christ with outward structure. If one does not have the real thing, the closest analog will be sought out. It is the very essence of the second thought in our text today &#8211; &#8220;to the one who is hungry everything bitter is sweet.&#8221;</p>
<p>My dear friend, <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><a href="http://www.clarksonchurch.com/">Tony Bartolucci, Pastor of Clarkson Community Church </a></span></strong>and no mean expositor of the Word, himself disturbed by this trend sought to grasp the issues behind it and interact fully with Beckwith&#8217;s own account of his return to Romanism. The result is a 12 parts series of sermons which I have found extremely helpful. They are insightful, clear, challenging and above all &#8211; call us to examine not only this trend, but all of our reasoning to the authority of the Scripture.</p>
<p>I highly commend this series to you &#8211; especially if you have a loved one who may themselves be wrestling in this area. You can order the entire series on CD, or listen to them free on line <span style="color:#0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong><a href="http://www.tonybartolucci.com/sermons.htm">BY CLICKING HERE OR THE LOGO</a></strong></span></span>. There is a crying need for us to face this current trend head on in this Biblical fashion. Get these!</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Classic re-post / Martin Lloyd-Jones and Evangelical Unity]]></title>
<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/17/classic-re-post-martin-lloyd-jones-and-evangelical-unity/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
<guid>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/17/classic-re-post-martin-lloyd-jones-and-evangelical-unity/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[&#8221; I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to ]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/unity.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1627" title="unity" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/unity.jpg" alt="" width="125" height="125" /></a>&#8221; I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.&#8221; (Ephesians 4:1-6, ESV)</p>
<p>The following is excerpted from From D. Martin Lloyd-Jones’ 1969 Lecture on the Puritans – The Puritans, Their Origins and Successors, pages 234-235. It is wonderful reminder of our need to major on the majors, and minor on the minors.</p>
<p>“In 1654 Oliver Cromwell – with his idea of Toleration – and the Parliament called upon the divines to define what should be tolerated or indulged among those who profess the fundamentals of Christianity. If effect they said, we have all these division and sects and groups; what are the fundamental of Christianity on which we can have fellowship together? So a committee was set up and the members of the committee were these: Mr. Richard Baxter, Dr. John Owen, Dr. Thomas Goodwin, Dr. Cheynel, Mr. Marshall, Mr. Reyner, Mr. Nye, Mr. Sydrach Simpson, Mr. Vines, Mr. Manton, Mr. Jacomb. As I said earlier, Baxter tried to short-circuit the whole proposal at the beginning by saying that nothing was necessary but the Apostles’ Creed, the Lord’s Prayer, and the Commandments. But that was rejected. Then they proceeded to work, and they produced 16 Articles which they felt stated the fundamentals on which, and on which alone, true fellowship is possible between Protestant Evangelical people. Here they are –</p>
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<p>1 – That the Holy Scripture is that rule of knowing God and living unto Him which whoso does not believe cannot be saved.</p>
<p>2 – That there is a God who is the Creator, Governor and Judge of the world, which is to be received by faith, and every other way of knowledge of Him is insufficient.</p>
<p>3 – That this God who is the blessed Creator is eternally distinct from all creatures in His Being and Blessedness.</p>
<p>4 – That this God is One in Three Persons or subsistences.</p>
<p>5 – That Jesus Christ is the only Mediator between God and Man without the knowledge of whom there is no salvation.</p>
<p>6 – That this Jesus Christ is the true God.</p>
<p>7 – That this Jesus Christ is also true man.</p>
<p>8 – That this Jesus Christ is God and Man in one Person.</p>
<p>9 – That this Jesus Christ is our Redeemer, who by paying a ransom and bearing our sins has made satisfaction for them.</p>
<p>10 – That this same Lord Jesus Christ is He that was Crucified at Jerusalem, and rose again and ascended into Heaven.</p>
<p>11 – That this same Jesus Christ being the only God and Man in One Person remains forever a distinct Person from all saints and angels notwithstanding their union and communion with Him.</p>
<p>12 – That all men by nature were dead in sins and trespasses, and no man can be saved unless he be born again, repent and believe.</p>
<p>13 – That we are justified and saved by grace and faith in Jesus Christ and not by works.</p>
<p>14 – That to continue in any known sin upon what pretense or principle soever is damnable.</p>
<p>15 – That God is to be worshiped according to His own will, and whosoever shall forsake and despise all the duties of His worship cannot be saved.</p>
<p>16 – That the dead shall rise, and that there is a day of judgment wherein all shall appear, some to go into everlasting life and some into everlasting condemnation.</p>
<p>They were the16 points. We have the authority of Richard Baxter for saying that it was Dr. John Owen who worded those Articles, that Dr. Reynolds was the scribe and that Mr. Marshall, a sober, worthy man did something, but the rest were little better than passive.</p>
<p>Now these Articles were designed and intended to exclude not only Deists, Socinians and Papists, but also Arians, Antinomians, Quakers and others. What I am asking is this: Cannot we accept those as fundamentals? Are those not sufficient? We remember, of course, that bishops, deans, etc., etc., had been abolished at that time, and therefore did not need to be mentioned; and also that they did not have to contend with a ‘higher critical’ attitude to the Scriptures. They were agreed also in their attitude toward ‘tradition’, Their object was to define the irreducible minimum on which evangelical people could work together. We, today, need to elaborate some of these statements in view of our peculiar circumstances; but, still, I suggest, we should seek the minimum definition and not the maximum. Then, united on that basis, we can as brethren work together, and meet together for discussion of the matters on which we differ, and for our mutual edification.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[From Bondage to the Desert - 1.1	The Religious Character of Communist Ideology - 6]]></title>
<link>http://danutm.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/from-bondage-to-the-desert-1-1the-religious-character-of-communist-ideology-6/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>DanutM</dc:creator>
<guid>http://danutm.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/from-bondage-to-the-desert-1-1the-religious-character-of-communist-ideology-6/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[1.1.6 Communism as Soteriology Definition – Soteriology is the doctrine or teaching about salvation ]]></description>
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<p><strong>Definition</strong> – <strong><em>Soteriology</em></strong> is the doctrine or teaching about salvation (from Gk. <em>soteria</em> – salvation).</p>
<p>Marxism has a fundamentally soteriological character. It proposes a ‘way of salvation’ from humanity’s distorted condition.</p>
<p>This search for salvation, which forms the basis of any soteriological system, presupposes that something is wrong with humanity and the world. Christianity agrees with Marxism on this point, but that is where all similarities end. From this point on, they differ both over the definition of the problem (as we have seen above) and (even more so) in terms of the proposed solution.</p>
<p><!--more-->For Marxism, the cure for human alienation is <strong><em>revolution</em></strong>, the violent reversal of the existing social order. From a Christian perspective, the solution for the sinful human condition is the mediatory death of Christ, accepted individually by faith, through which the believer is incorporated in the Church (the ‘body of Christ’). Following this radical personal decision (called <strong><em>conversion</em></strong>), the Christian community is called to work out the implications of its faith in every realm of life and society.</p>
<p>In terms of their understanding of salvation, communism is incompatible with Christianity because of its atheistic basis. It is also a philosophy based exclusively on human effort, while from a Christian perspective salvation is based on God’s grace in Christ, which human beings can either reject (and be lost) or receive by faith.</p>
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<link>http://theshepherdsstaff.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/family-worship-guide-jesus-is-eternal-life/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tad Thompson</dc:creator>
<guid>http://theshepherdsstaff.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/family-worship-guide-jesus-is-eternal-life/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[1)  Read 1 John 2:2 and memorize it together as a family 2)  Propitiation means to satisfy the wrath]]></description>
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<p>2)  Propitiation means to satisfy the wrath of God against sin.  How did Jesus accomplish this?  What does this mean for the true believer?</p>
<p>3)  Since Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world, does that mean the whole world is saved?</p>
<p>No, this passage refers to three different realities of Christ&#8217;s atoning work for us on the cross:</p>
<p>First, His work on the cross is <strong>universally sufficient</strong>.  This means that all who come to Christ in repentance and faith will be forgiven.  No one who repents of their sin will be turned away from Jesus.</p>
<p>Second, this verse speaks to the <strong>global intentionality</strong> of the cross.  The first facet of this intentionality is that Jesus died to save people from every tribe, tongue, nation and people.  When John says &#8220;the whole world&#8221; he is communicating that salvation is not only for the Jews.  The second facet of this truth is that the &#8220;whole world&#8221; is going to be &#8220;saved&#8221;, there will be a new heaven and a new earth.  The earth will be restored from the curse and the current world system will be redeemed because of the work of Christ.</p>
<p>Finally, this verse speaks to the <strong>definite application</strong> of the atonement.  Jesus literally saves people and the wrath of God against individuals is actually satisfied because it was transferred to Christ on Calvary.  Jesus did not die for the possibility that some might believe, he died for all those who the Father had given him.</p>
<p>4)  Ask:  Are there any specific sins that you have committed today that God may be angry about?  Why is God angry at our sin?  Who can remove this anger for us?</p>
<p>5)  Pray prayers of confession and thanksgiving that Jesus has satisfied the wrath of God and because our joy can be complete.</p>
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<link>http://onepilgrimsprogress.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/faith-in-christ/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
<guid>http://onepilgrimsprogress.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/faith-in-christ/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Essays on The Distinguishing Traits of Christian Character (1829) by Gardiner Spring, D.D. ESSAY X. ]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;">ESSAY X.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">FAITH IN CHRIST</p>
<p id="para.59.1.1.box.172.483.708.567.q.60">There are errors on the subject of faith in Christ, which it is nowhere more important to observe and avoid, that when we consider it as a test of Christian character.  There are those who affirm, that the faith of the Gospel is nothing more than a general assent to the doctrines of revelation, unaccompanied by love to them, or a dependence on Christ for salvation.  It is not necessary to animadvert upon this description of faith, for every man who reads the bible must perceive, that faith in Christ is there described as a holy act.  But if it is nothing more than the assent of the understanding to the doctrines of the Gospel, then is it possessed by some of the vilest men on the earth, as well as by the fallen spirits in hell  (James 2:19).</p>
<p id="para.59.1.2.box.174.1053.710.262.q.60">There are also, those who teach, that the faith of the Gospel consists in a strong persuasion of our personal piety.  If a man believes that he is one of God&#8217;s elect people; that Christ loved him from eternity; that he died for him in particular; and that he is a regenerated, pardoned sinner; this persuasion is by many supposed to constitute him a <em>believer </em>in the scriptural acceptation of the term.  Hence the stronger a man&#8217;s persuasion of his own interest in Christ, and the blessings of his salvation, the stronger <em>his faith! </em>And hence the sentiment has obtained that unbelief consists in not believing, or doubting that we are Christians; and all those fears which disturb the peace of good men, and all those apprehensions lest they should be deceived in their hopes, and fail of everlasting life, are stigmatised as unbelief.  Now, that these cannot be either the faith or unbelief of the Gospel is abundantly evident from a number of considerations, on which we cannot enlarge, and will merely suggest.  Nothing can be the object of saving faith, except what is revealed in the scriptures.  Now it is nowhere revealed in the scriptures, that any one of us in particular, is pardoned and justified and individually interested in Christ&#8217;s redemption; and if any one imagines that this revelation has been made to him in particular, he deceives himself and the truth is not in him.  Besides, the scriptures always represent faith as terminating on something without us; namely, on Christ and the truths concerning him; but if it consist in a persuasion of our being in a state of salvation, it must terminate principally on something within us, namely, the work of grace in our hearts; and how inferior is such an object of faith to the all-sufficiency and glory of the great Redeemer?</p>
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<div>It is not easy to give a definition of faith, that comprehends all its properties.  In its most general character, it is <em>reliance upon the testimony of God&#8217;s</em> <em>word. </em>It is <em>receiving the truth in the love of it. </em>The apostle Paul uses the phrase, <em>received not the love of the truth </em>as synonymous with the phrase, <em>believed not the truth. </em>Faith, however, when viewed as an evangelical grace, possesses altogether a peculiar character.  It is not simply reliance upon the divine testimony, but <em>particularly upon the truth of God revealed in the scriptures concerning Jesus Christ. </em>So the scriptures themselves represent it.  &#8220;These things are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, ye might have life in his name.&#8221; (John 20:31)  &#8220;If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.&#8221; (Rom. 10:9)</div>
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<div>I cannot better describe this grace, than by adverting to the state of mind, which precedes and exercises it.  When, by the operations of the Holy Spirit, a man is made sensible that he has sinned against the Holy God, he deeply feels that he is fallen, guilty, condemned and undone.  He sees that he lies at the <em>mere mercy </em>of that God whom he has offended, who is under no obligation to pity him, and may most righteously destroy him for ever.  Under the righteous sentence of a holy law, he does not see how God can be just, and yet extend pardoning mercy to a wretch like him, until he becomes acquainted with that soul-reviving truth, that &#8220;he so loved the world as to give his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him might not perish, but have everlasting life&#8221; (John 3:16).  In this wonderful expedient, he discovers a remedy which vindicates the authority of the divine law in the dispensations of pardoning mercy, and relieves his soul from the oppressive apprehension that there is no forgiveness with God.  Through this Redeemer, he ascertains that he is invited and commanded to return to God, with the hope and assurance of mercy; and is confirmed in the belief that &#8220;whosoever cometh to Jesus Christ, he will in no wise cast out&#8221; (John 6:37).  And he is emboldened to go.  The good deeds, the religious performances, which once used to encourage him, afford him no encouragement now: but renouncing them all, he returns to God with an implicit, active, and exclusive reliance on Jesus Christ and his redemption, as God&#8217;s appointed way of saving sinners.  He approves of this method of salvation; he delights in it; he chooses it as his only refuge.  He no longer rejects the mystery of the cross, or stumbles at the corner-stone which is laid in Zion, but glories in the cross of Christ, and is happy to adventure his all for immortality on this sure foundation: and thus does he &#8220;receive, and rest on Christ alone for salvation as he is offered in the Gospel.&#8221;  And this is faith in Christ.</div>
<p>This heavenly grace, is one of the fruits of the spirit, and evidences of regeneration. &#8220;He that <em>believeth </em>shall be saved&#8221; (John 3:36).  &#8220;No man can say, that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost&#8221; (1 Cor. 12:3).  Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ, is born of God&#8221; (1 John 5:1).  Do you possess this heaven-inspired grace<em>? </em>What do you know of Jesus Christ as the Saviour of sinners?  What glory have you ever discovered in that great moral wonder, &#8220;God manifest in the flesh,&#8221; as the Prophet, the Priest, the King in Sion?  Have you from the heart, received the record, that God has given of his Son?  Have you discovered any thing in Christ, that qualifies him to be your Saviour, and that can encourage guilty, miserable men to trust in his grace?  Is he precious to you, as to those who believe<em>? </em>Is it your happiness to commit your cause to better hands than your own; to relinquish all your self-righteous confidences, and cast yourself <em>into </em>the arms of Jesus?  What things were gain to you, do you count loss for Christ<em>? </em>Is every thing you are, and have done, and can perform, in your own view, nothing, that you may win Christ, and be found in him, not having your own righteousness which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith?  (Phil 3:8-9).  In a word, with a just view of the character, and a supreme attachment to the person of Christ, can you yield yourself into his hands <em>as a full and complete Saviour? </em>Can you look to him to be sanctified by his Spirit; to be governed by his laws; to be protected by his power; to be saved by his death; to be disposed of at his pleasure, and to be the means of promoting his glory?  If you can, all is well!  In the comprehensive promise of that covenant to which <em>faith </em>makes you a party, lie concealed the life and immortality of the Gospel.  Life and death, earth and heaven, things present and things to come, joys high, immeasurable, immortal—what shall I say?—All are yours, and ye are Christ&#8217;s, and Christ is God&#8217;s (1 Cor. 3:22-23).</p>
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<link>http://urbanfall.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/theology-death-match/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>If you want a good idea of some &#8220;cutting edge&#8221; theology going on right now, a good thing to start reading about is the debate between <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_T_Wright">N.T. Wright</a>, the current Bishop of Durham in the Church of England, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Piper_(theologian)">John Piper</a>, American preacher and Reformed theologian, over the nature of justification.  Wright is part of a movement called the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Perspective_on_Paul">&#8220;New Perspective on Paul&#8221;</a>, an attempt to understand and re-interpret Paul based on his 1st-century Jewish context over and against the Lutheran/Calvinist interpretations of the Protestant Reformation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite the mouthful.</p>
<p>Anyway, Wright is one of the popularizers of this New Perspective and has published, in the last decade or so, a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Perspective-N-T-Wright/dp/0800663578/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1257484536&#38;sr=8-5">number</a> of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/What-Saint-Paul-Really-Said/dp/0802844456/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c">different</a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Everyone-Romans-Part-One/dp/0664227996/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1257484698&#38;sr=8-31">books</a> (the man&#8217;s pen never stops moving, I think), not to mention a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/New-Interpreters-Bible-First-Corinthians/dp/0687278236/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1257484803&#38;sr=1-2">commentary on Romans</a> which have sparked a pretty heated debate, especially in evangelical circles, where Wright is beginning to gain a lot of influence.  One of those evangelicals is John Piper, who came out with a book two years ago called <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Justification-Response-N-Wright/dp/1581349645/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1257484945&#38;sr=1-2">The Future of Justification: A Response to N.T. Wright</a>. </em>Wright responded himself with another book (a nice email couldn&#8217;t have sufficed?) called <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Justification-Gods-Plan-Pauls-Vision/dp/0830838635/ref=pd_sim_b_1">Justification: God&#8217;s Plan and Paul&#8217;s Vision</a><span style="font-style:normal;">.</span></em></p>
<p>Sounds pretty intense.  I can&#8217;t believe the way these theologian people just write books at each other all day.  But.  I&#8217;m really excited about it, and my friend Ben and I stumbled across a recent series of interviews with Piper over at his ministry&#8217;s website, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/">desiringgod.org</a>.  The interview starts <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/822_interview_with_piper_on_wright_pt_1/">here</a> (there&#8217;s seven short segments total), but I wanted to just pull out some key quotes on one of the central issues surrounding the debate.  It all starts after the jump.</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s just reduce the question to this: <em>When</em> is a person &#8217;saved&#8217;?  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/824_interview_with_piper_on_wright_pt_3/">Piper</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is my interpretation. Later we’ll get at whether [Wright] agrees with this. In the New Testament, <strong>justification is the moment or the event when you put your faith in Jesus Christ</strong> and at that moment God is no longer against you—he’s for you, and he counts you as acceptable, forgiven, righteous, obedient because of your union with Christ. You are perfectly acceptable to God and he is totally on your side.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s Wright (his interview with Trevin Wax <a href="http://trevinwax.com/2009/01/13/interview-with-nt-wright-responding-to-%20piper-on-justification/">here</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>I understand Paul’s doctrine of justification as <em>eschatological</em>, that is, the justification of the faithful in the present time is both the fulfilment of the long story of Israel and the anticipation of the eventual verdict to be delivered on the last day, as in Romans 2.1-16 and 8.1-30 . . .</p>
<p>[F]or Piper justification through Christ alone is the same in the future (on the last day) as in the present, whereas for Paul, whom I am following very closely at this point, the future justification is given on the basis of the Spirit-generated life that the justified-by-faith-in-the-present person then lives. In fact, the omission of the Spirit from many contemporary Reformed statements of justification is one of their major weaknesses.</p></blockquote>
<p>Confused?  Here&#8217;s the way I&#8217;m understanding this.  Basically, for Piper, justification is ego-centric: it&#8217;s about the moment <strong>I</strong><em> </em>accept Christ as Lord and Savior, and then Christ&#8217;s moral perfection (his &#8216;righteousness&#8217;) is <em>imputed</em> to <strong>me</strong> based on <strong>my </strong>confession of faith.  For Wright, justification is theo-centric: it&#8217;s about what <strong>God</strong> did, is doing, in will do in the person and work of <strong>Jesus the Messiah</strong> through the power of the <strong>Holy Spirit</strong>, who, in his words, enables &#8220;the already-justified believers to live with moral energy and will so that they really do ‘please God’ as Paul says.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do these kinds of debates matter?  Mainly because within Christianity, your theology, what you believe, is (or at least, should be) the primary shaper of your ethics, what you do.  One of the problems with this neo-Reformed stuff Piper and others are teaching is that when you place the locus of justification in the believer&#8217;s confession, rather than in the work of God in Christ through the Spirit, you get to stop at conversion.  Now, Reformed folks would object to that as a caricature of their theology, and it is a bit of exaggeration, I&#8217;ll admit.  But when salvation is an event, rather than a process, where does that leave you after you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?  Seems like that&#8217;s it to me.  Nothing else is required.</p>
<p>For John Calvin and most Reformed folk, the way a believer progressed morally and spiritually is not by the perfecting work of the Spirit, but through <em>contemplation of </em>and<em> gratitude for what has already happened </em>at the moment of conversion.  Worship is thus a response to what God <em>has done</em> <em>for me</em> rather than a participation in what God <em>is doing in the world</em>.</p>
<p>My sense is that Piper&#8217;s theology does not provide a powerful enough <em>reason</em> for me to perform good works.  My own contemplation of what God has done in the past will only get me so far: what ends up happening is that the further away I get from the event of my conversion, both spiritually and temporally, the less intensity my faith has.  What&#8217;s much more attractive to me is a more participatory vision of salvation, in which I get the privilege of being a part of God&#8217;s mission to the world, of partnering with God in redeeming and restoring God&#8217;s creation and rescuing it from sin and decay.  Indeed, as I participate in the salvation work of Jesus Christ by dying to myself through the power of the Spirit, I begin to resemble, more and more, the one who saved me, to become what the Orthodox call a &#8220;little Christ&#8221;.  As I participate in his death, so I will participate in his Resurrection.  Worship is not then a response to what God has done, as Piper would have it, nor is it a fearful attempt to &#8220;earn&#8221; my salvation, as Piper <em>thinks</em> Wright has it, but rather what happens when I begin to participate in God&#8217;s own life and work.</p>
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<p>Simone Weil once wrote: “There are only two things that can pierce the human heart, beauty and affliction.”  I read a story recently about a young black man growing up in South Africa during the 20s and 30s.  Though he was descendant of a royal line, this boy was the very first of his family to go to school.  In fact he went to a United Methodist mission school.  Shortly after graduation he headed off for Johannesburg, South Africa’s largest city, to pursue even further education, and maybe to escape an unwanted marriage arrangement.  But like so many young men in Africa’s violent cities, he was seduced into believing political change and justice can be achieved with guns and violence.  He wound up leading a rebel army until it was scattered and he was forced to spend two years hiding out alone, on the run as a political fugitive.  When he was finally caught, he spent his next 27 years subject to unspeakable conditions in a South African prison.  Tragedy, like this young man’s, is a dramatic invitation to us to wrestle with deep theological questions.  Why—if God is all powerful and all good—do we live in a world of violence and torture, of suffering, of cancer, rape, and murder?  And why is there an innate sense deep within us that in all this something is tragically wrong with the world?  That we’re made for something better? <br />
<strong>The Price for Glorification</strong></p>
<p>In our text for today, the Apostle Paul begins to grapple with some of these questions. The major theme of Romans chapter 8 is glorification.  Or, the formation of women and men into reflections of the glory of God revealed in Jesus Christ.  Now, that’s an interesting definition of glorification.  When we think of “the glory of God,” we often picture an immense beam of light with perhaps a long Gandalf-like beard sitting on a cloud.  And swarms of angels and cherubs (what ever the difference) circle around serenading this thing with harps and saving peacock feathers, and that’s the glory of God.  But the Bible says that the glory of God is revealed in a sweaty small-town carpenter, with dirt under his finger nails and dust on his feet.  The kind of guy who spits in the dirt and rubs mud on people’s eyes.  The glory of God is revealed in Jesus Christ, and God desires to form us into his image.</p>
<p>But if you want to talk about the formation of women and men into reflections of the glory of God revealed in Jesus Christ—which is what I have suggested this passage is about—you’ve got to talk about suffering. “I consider that the sufferings of this present time,” Paul says, “are not worth comparing with the glory about to be revealed to us.” Paul’s was a time of great suffering.  The Roman Empire in the first century was not the glorious place you read about during the classical period.  By this time, the fall of the empire was imminent.  Economic hardship was the status quo.  The average family didn’t know where they would find their next meal.  Barbarians marched to the gates to attack and plunder helpless Roman villages.  The government had grown oppressive and tyrannical in the name of home land security.  And increased migration caused astronomical increase in disease.  Almost every home would have had an empty room once occupied by a family member who had now passed.  The Romans knew about suffering.  And it was even worse if you were a Christian—Christians were thrown into dens of hungry lions by emperors looking for scapegoats for the empire’s problems.  Vast crowds of people would fill the stands to watch and chomp on government bread like popcorn at a movie. </p>
<p>Paul is anticipating a question in his writing: that if he is to talk about glorification—formation into reflections of the glory of God revealed in Jesus Christ—one of these Roman Christians will inevitably ask “Paul, if we are supposed to be glorified, then why is life so hard?”  Why Paul—if everything you’ve said about the gospel is true—why are things still so painful?  Or another way to put it: In light of all the pain and suffering in our world, why should we buy into this gospel business anyway?  Pretty good question isn’t it?  Perhaps some of us have asked this kind of question before.  Paul anticipates that question, and he doesn’t skirt around the issue.  No, Paul embraces the subject of suffering, he says that the entire creation is “subject to futility,” and groans in pain.  The entire creation.  Even before Al Gore, the Apostle Paul knew that the <em>entire creation</em> was in desperate need of the grace of God and of redemption—because, you see, the effects of sin are not just personal and spiritual.  We often think that the effect of sin is that feeling of guilt that I have inside.  No, the effects of sin are not just personal and spiritual; they are material and cosmic.  I once read quote at the beginning of a cheesy movie that said something as small as the flutter of a butterfly&#8217;s wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world.  Now, I have no idea whether that’s true.  But I do know that Christian theology teaches that it was a small bite of fruit, a simple act of disobedience that was the ultimate cause of all disease, famine, disaster, and war.  Sin pervades every wonder of the natural world, every structure of authority, every person, every molecule of creation.  In other words Paul says, “Yes, you are being glorified, but you live in a pre-glorification world, a world of suffering, and the price you pay for glorification in a pre-glorification world steep.”  As he said in verse 17 “<em>we suffer with [Christ], that we may be glorified with him</em>.” </p>
<p>So it’s not just the creation that groans in pain.  Look at verse 23, Paul says, “we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan.”  But you get the sense that our groaning is somehow curious to Paul.  Like we shouldn’t be in pain if we have these “first fruits”—even <em>we</em>, he says, who have the first fruits, groan like the rest of creation.  So what is this business about first fruits? </p>
<p><strong>The Pattern of Glorification</strong></p>
<p>Paul says in 1 Corinthians that Christ, as he is raised from the dead, is the <em>first fruits</em> of those whom have fallen asleep.  In other words he was saying to the Corinthians that the dead in Christ have hope of resurrection, because of the resurrection of Christ.  If he, the first fruits, is raised form the dead, so they will be raised at the full harvest.  What Paul is describing here is the pattern of our glorification.  Yes it’s true that we must suffer with Christ.  But it is also true that we are being glorified with him.  Just as Christ is raised to new life, the first fruits of the resurrection, so we are offered abundant life, the full harvest.  Just as Christ, the first fruits, ascends to set at the right hand of the Father, so we are called into an intimate transformative relationship with the Father, the full harvest.  In other words, so only in our suffering prefigured by Christ’s, but our glorification is patterned after him as well. <em> Our glorification is Christ-shaped</em>.</p>
<p>Paul says it’s like being pregnant.  “The whole creation has been groaning <em>in labor pains</em>.”  During this time in which we live we are subject to pain and discomfort, we have strange cravings and uncontrollable appetites, right?—desires for things that aren’t so good for us.  But it’s also a time of great hope and anticipation.  That’s why Paul says in verse 15 that we have already “received a <em>spirit </em>of adoption,” that we are in some sense children of God, but then in verse 23 that we <em>await</em> (we eagerly expect) our <em>adoption</em>, and the redemption of our bodies.  We have the first fruits of adoption, but not the full harvest. </p>
<p>That’s also why he says in verse 24 that “we are saved <em>in hope</em>.”  We have somehow got into the habit of talking about salvation as if it’s something we possess, or an action we do: “I got saved 10 years ago.”  But that’s not the way the Bible talks.  Paul says we are saved “in hope” and that we hope for what we do not yet see.  Another time he addresses the Corinthians as “those who are <em>being</em> saved.”  It’s not like the insurance business where you just pay a big premium up front, and then you’re all taken care of in the event of death.  God’s not in the insurance business; God is in the transformation business, and transformation takes time.  The writer Maya Angelou, who is herself a proclaimed follower of Jesus, said she is always interested when one of her students says to her “I am a Christian” and Maya Angelou had a standard response: “already?”  Christian eschatology requires the discipline of waiting and faith that “the one who began a good work in you,” as Paul says in another place, “will bring it to completion <em>in the day of Jesus Christ</em>” (Philippians 1:6)  But for now we live in the gestation period. </p>
<p>So there is a price for glorification: we suffer with Christ, that we may be glorified with him.  And there is a pattern for our glorification: it is Christ-shaped.  In verses 29-30 Paul lays out for us the process of glorification.</p>
<p><strong>The Process of Glorification</strong></p>
<p>The problem with conceiving of salvation as a one time insurance transaction is that we lose the story of God’s work in our lives which began before the foundation of the world, which we hold now in hope, and which God will bring to completion in the day of Christ Jesus.   In other words, we lose the gospel.  But here we get to eve’s drop on Paul’s conversation to the church at Rome as he explains the process of salvation.  Let’s see if we can begin to recover the gospel story.</p>
<p><strong><em>Foreknew</em></strong></p>
<p>First, Paul says, God <em>foreknew</em> us.  The way the word reads in English, it sounds like Paul is saying that God knew you before something—perhaps, before you were born.  And of course God did.  God knew you before the foundations of the world were laid.  And Paul knows that.  And Paul knows that you know that.  Which is why he’s not particularly interested in telling you.  No, Paul probably has in mind the Semitic sense of the word that connotes a deep, intimate knowing—the way a husband knows his wife, or a father knows his children.  Like the Hebrew word <em>yada</em> used in Hosea 3:2, when God says to the people of Israel “you only have I known of all the families of the earth.”  Does this mean that God is not omniscient?  That God does not see the all the peoples of the earth?  No, of course not!  But only Israel does he <em>know</em> like a loving father or a good king. </p>
<p>Paul himself uses a related word in 1 Corinthians simply to say that “anyone who loves God is known by [God]” (1 Cor. 8:3) In other words, when Paul says that God <em>foreknew</em> us, he means that intimate and kind knowledge that draws us to God.  Wesley called its <em>prevenient grace</em>, the loving-kindness with which God reaches out to us before it is even possible for us to reach for God.  We love God because God <em>foreknew</em> us.</p>
<p><strong><em>Predestined</em></strong></p>
<p>Then, Paul says, God <em>predestined</em> us.  Now, I know what you’re thinking.  Joe, this is a Methodist church, we don’t use words like that here.  But <em>whaddaya</em> know, it’s right there in the Bible.  Well, allow me, a non-Methodist, to try to easy your mind a bit.  The reason, I think, most people who get afraid of words like predestination, get afraid of them is because these words connote to them a loss of control.  And we’re obsessed with notions of exclusion.  As though the big issue of salvation and Christian spirituality is who’s in and who’s out.  And we want to <em>know</em> that when it comes to the “<em>big questions</em>” like who’s in and who’s out, that we’re in charge. </p>
<p>But Paul defines predestination for us right here in this passage; he says “those whom [God] foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son.”  In other words, predestination, at least in this passage, is not a word of <em>exclusion</em>, but of <em>expectation</em>.  It does not tell us who’s in and who’s out, but what those whom God foreknew can <em>expect</em>, namely, formation to reflect the Glory of God as revealed in Jesus Christ. </p>
<p><strong><em>Called</em></strong></p>
<p>But all of this—God’s foreknowing love and drawing us to Godself, our predestination to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ—it all began before the foundation of the world, and comes to crescendo at the cross of Jesus Christ—all 2000 years before any of us were born.  So God, in God’s wisdom and grace, thought “maybe I should let them know.”  So Paul says, “those whom [God] foreknew, he also predestined…and those whom he predestined, he also <em>called</em>.”  Calling is God’s gracious way of inviting us into the process of glorification he is working in our lives.  He says, “Hey!  I love you deeply and intimately; I foreknow you.  And because of this great love, I have destined you for transformation into the image of my Son.”  You heard the one about the woman who on her fiftieth anniversary said to her husband, exacerbated, “In fifty years, you have never once said you loved me.”  To which the husband politely responds, “That’s not true!  I told you on our wedding day, and I’ll let you know if anything changes.”  Well, God does not have the same philosophy when it comes to God’s children.  God’s divine and intimate love for us is the secret of the universe, and God lets us in on this secret all the time.  God calls God’s children. </p>
<p><strong><em>Justified</em></strong></p>
<p>“Those whom God foreknew, he also predestined…And those whom he predestined, he also called; and those whom he called he also <em>justified</em>.”  If predestination is the Christ-shaped blueprint of our salvation, justification is its construction.  Justice in the Bible is the term for the entire cosmos set back to its glorious original order.  That Paul says God is justifying us means that God is making us the kind of persons we were intended to be, reflections of God’s glory.   The entire plan of salvation is a plan of justice.  It’s what Christ accomplished on the cross.  But it is not yet completed.  The first fruits of our justification began with Jesus on the cross, but we await the full harvest.  Martin Luther says we are at the same time righteous and sinners.  We are in the gestation period.  And we work out our salvation with fear and trembling, as God justifies us, molds us into the image of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p><strong><em>Glorified  </em></strong></p>
<p>“Those whom God foreknew, he also predestined…And those whom he predestined, he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified, he also <em>glorified</em>.”  So what does it mean to be glorified.  What that is mean that we are being formed into reflections of the glory of God in Jesus Christ?</p>
<p>(&#8230;Woops, apparently I didn&#8217;t type this part of the sermon.  But never fear, audio should be up soon enough!)</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>So there is a price for our glorification in this pre-glorification world: we suffer with Christ, that we may be glorified with him.  There is a pattern for our glorification: it is Christ shaped.  And there is a process to our glorification: foreknowledge, predestination, call, justification, and glorification.</p>
<p>That young man that I began telling you about.  After twenty seven years, the man was released from prison, and while inside he had had a change of heart.  That young man’s name was Nelson Mandela, and in May of 1994 he was inaugurated the first black president of South Africa.  During his term and after, Mandela made leaps toward racial reconciliation and civil liberties in his country.  He worked tirelessly the draw international attention to the HIV/AIDS crisis in Africa.  And this once-militant-rebel became a leader for nonviolence in Africa and around the world.  All the guilt he must have had from leading violent rebellions, the searing pain of running for you life, spending two year utterly alone, all the suffering incurred in this dark dank South African prison could now be seen as part of the process whereby Mandela grew into his calling to be a leader for peace and reconciliation in the world.  All of his suffering could then be seen from his vantage point as steps on the road toward glorification.  His affliction had turned into beauty.</p>
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<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/13/margin-notes-things-i-scribbled-in-the-white-spaces-on-11132k9/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[John 13 is an extraordinary passage as everyone knows. This account of Jesus washing the Disciple]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/notes3.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1623" title="notes3" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/notes3.jpg" alt="notes3" width="116" height="85" /></a>John 13 is an extraordinary passage as everyone knows. This account of Jesus washing the Disciple&#8217;s feet, releasing Judas to his wicked work and preparing His inner-circle for His departure is filled with rich food for the soul.</p>
<p>&#8220;He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, “Lord, do you wash my feet?”&#8221; (John 13:6, ESV)</p>
<p>RAF: Peter&#8217;s objection might have arisen from several causes. But we must note that he seems not to have objected at Christ&#8217;s washing the feet of the others, only when it came to him. Perhaps he thought &#8211; &#8220;I do not need cleansed like this &#8211; I&#8217;m not that dirty.&#8221; Maybe he was implying he was cleaner than the rest. Who knows but that they had washed their own feet already when they came in? Men hate to own the depth of their own uncleanness. Then again, perhaps the issue was that this was simply too humbling. To have the one he wanted to serve, serve him, was a challenge to his pride. How much we want to have a part in grace &#8211; and not to be purely a recipient of it.</p>
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<p>&#8220;When he had washed their feet and put on his outer garments and resumed his place, he said to them, “Do you understand what I have done to you? You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.&#8221; (John 13:12-15, ESV)</p>
<p>RAF: True humility does not confuse what we are called to do with who we are. Jesus was not rejecting His position and authority as &#8220;Teacher and Lord&#8221; &#8211; but showing that such positions are not to be thought of as outside the circle of serving. Jesus knew He was called to serve others, but He did not work &#8220;for&#8221; them per se. He was employed by the Father to serve them. But the people didn&#8217;t give Him His marching orders &#8211; the Father did. He would serve them as the Father desired, not necessarily as they desired. All in ministry need to find this right balance and order. We serve our people, but we do not work for them or do their bidding. We do the Father&#8217;s bidding on their behalf. And it is up to us to search out the Father&#8217;s desire in this regard, and use that to govern our service. Otherwise, we will be at the every whim of the people, and fail to serve them in what they need most as the Father sees it. A Baby-sitter or better yet a nanny or governess really fills out this model. Serving the children in raising them, educating them and protecting them &#8211; but this is all done as an agent of the parents, not of the children. Thus they forbid and allow as the parents would desire, not the children. This is wonderful paradigm for pastoral ministry.</p>
<p>&#8221; After saying these things, Jesus was troubled in his spirit, and testified, “Truly, truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.”&#8221; (John 13:21, ESV)</p>
<p>RAF: Jesus was no stoic. The thought of being betrayed by one of His dear 12 troubled Him. Yes, He knew He came to die. Yes, He knew who it was who would betray Him from the beginning (John 6:64). Yes, He was the eternal Son of God and this was His mission from all eternity. And yet, as the word in the original has it &#8211; he was disquieted within, disturbed, agitated with an inward commotion. He fully felt the weight of every step on His way to the Cross. It was no light thing to be betrayed. He did not pass it off as if it didn&#8217;t matter &#8211; it did! Oh how the betrayal added to His sorrow on our behalf. The mystery of the eternally joyful God permitting Himself to endure this species of suffering is beyond us. But make no mistake &#8211; He suffered so, so that His compassion and mercy might be absolutely thorough for us. He truly KNOWS our pain. What a blessed Savior He is. Beyond human description.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[The Gospel for the Broken]]></title>
<link>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/the-gospel-for-the-broken/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Rod Rosenbladt on the Ligonier blog discusses this Gospel for the broken-hearted.]]></description>
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<link>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/love-that-issues-from-a-pure-heart-and-a-good-conscience-and-a-sincere-faith/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
<guid>http://wateristhickerthanblood.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/love-that-issues-from-a-pure-heart-and-a-good-conscience-and-a-sincere-faith/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Such is the goal, τελος, of the Apostolic charge/command according to Paul in his first letter to Ti]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Boycotts and Book Burnings...Are they beneficial to our cause?]]></title>
<link>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/boycotts-and-book-burnings-are-they-beneficial-to-our-cause/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>truthinator</dc:creator>
<guid>http://truthinator.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/boycotts-and-book-burnings-are-they-beneficial-to-our-cause/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Recently, you without a doubt heard of the church in NC that was planning to burn non KJV Bibles and]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Recently, you without a doubt heard of the church in NC that was planning to burn non KJV Bibles and other superfluous writings on halloween. This morning I heard that the American Family Association was organizing a boycott of a large clothing retailer because of their non-Christian beliefs and actions.</p>
<p>I am not saying there is no merit to the concerns of groups that coordinate boycotts and burnings. I am asking whether boycotts and burnings are the best use of our time.</p>
<p>The problem I have with these protests is that the boycott and the fire get all of the attention and the reason for them gets little if any&#8230; Remember about 15 years ago when a Christian group was boycotting Disney? I do.</p>
<p>I remember this coming up in conversation with a friend. They said they were glad the Christians were boycotting Disney. Maybe Disney would not be so crowded for them&#8230; Wow, is this what a boycott accomplishes?</p>
<p>I offer a suggestion. Prior to boycotting or burning, why not schedule a series of meetings to discuss with the community why you have reason to boycott someone or to burn something? This way, you can use scripture to teach a lesson. If the plan to boycott or burn gets a bunch of attention, at least you can direct some of that attention to the meetings and the information you will provide.</p>
<p>Just a thought&#8230; What do you think?</p>
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<link>http://responsivereiding.com/2009/11/12/margin-notes-things-i-scribbled-in-the-white-spaces-on-11122k9/</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>responsivereiding</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Proverbs 12:16 &#8211; The vexation of a fool is known at once, but the prudent ignores an insult. R]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><a href="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/new-notes-3.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1619" title="new notes 3" src="http://responsivereiding.wordpress.com/files/2009/11/new-notes-3.jpg" alt="new notes 3" width="84" height="124" /></a>Proverbs 12:16 &#8211; The vexation of a fool is known at once, but the prudent ignores an insult.</p>
<p>RAF: Knee-jerk reactions are the reactions of a jerk  &#8211; or more properly, a fool. The one who is easily provoked, is the slave of the provocateur. The only buttons someone else can push, are the ones you give them access to. And if you cannot set the provocative aspects aside to stay focused upon the real issues at hand, you will be forever barred from arriving at solutions to problems. I know. I&#8217;ve been there. I have played the fool. Heaven help me to be more like my King, Jesus.</p>
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<p>Proverbs 12:18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.</p>
<p>RAF: Do you tend to use your words as weapons &#8211; to wound others? Chances are, they were uttered rashly &#8211; like the knee-jerk responses of verse 16. But even if not &#8211; even if well considered, what a poor use of such a powerful tool &#8211; this tongue of ours. Even in reproof, our aim ought to be healing and never simple denunciation or hurting someone back. If someone needs correction, may we truly bring correction, for their good, and not merely give vent to our personal vitriol. Our job is not to punish others with our words. Ultimately, that is never more than our own desire to hurt the other. Even &#8220;when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” (Jude 9). Neither should we.</p>
<p>Proverbs 12:24 “The hand of the diligent will rule, while the slothful will be put to forced labor. ”</p>
<p>RAF: This is as true in spiritual matters as it is in natural ones. The &#8220;farmer&#8221; who is not diligent to plow thoroughly, plant liberally, water carefully, pull weeds ruthlessly, protect from ravaging pests watchfully and harvest punctually &#8211; will not survive. The &#8220;Christian&#8221; who does not feed their soul on the Word daily, attack indwelling sin viciously, drink in worship thirstily, breathe in prayer repeatedly, seek holiness intentionally and pour grace into others as providence allows &#8211; will not survive either. I believe it was A. W. Tozer who said that most of us are not as holy as we wish were, but all of us are as holy as we are willing to be. If your spiritual progress has been stalled, or has taken a back seat &#8211; is it not time to see if you are being diligent about the things which make for true growth in the likeness of Christ? We will not rule over ourselves and indwelling sin, if we are not diligent to pursue those things which make for it. Nor should we be surprised then that spiritual matters have become more like forced labor than joyful privileges.</p>
<p>Proverbs 12:26 “One who is righteous is a guide to his neighbor, but the way of the wicked leads them astray. ”</p>
<p>RAF: Today, this would probably be titled &#8211; &#8220;Lifestyle Evangelism&#8221;. The truth is BOTH, what we say AND what we do matters. When it comes to evangelism, some would lay more or all of the stress in our efforts in proclamation. And proclamation is absolutely essential. People must hear, understand and believe &#8211; the Gospel &#8211; the message. Others would place the bulk of the stress upon lifestyle and the &#8220;what&#8221; of our lives. But good actions are not the Gospel by themselves, the &#8220;message&#8221; of Christ&#8217;s atoning death is; and the Message negated by graceless lives is an exercise in futility. We are to be men of women of integrity &#8211; of life and message so wrapped around one another that they cannot be separated. The bottom line is &#8211; if Jesus hadn&#8217;t lived in perfect holiness, He could not have been fit to be our Savior. And if the message of the meaning of His death were not proclaimed, there is no faith by which one is justified. Neither one could be omitted without salvation being a myth.</p>
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