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<title><![CDATA[Talking Motown with Bill Dahl]]></title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[(Above: Richard “Popcorn” Wylie’s version of “Money (That’s What I Want)” is one of music writer Bil]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p><em><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style='text-align:center; display: block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/joM6VvLYGD4&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' /><param name='allowfullscreen' value='true' /><param name='wmode' value='transparent' /><embed src='http://www.youtube.com/v/joM6VvLYGD4&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;hd=0' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowfullscreen='true' width='425' height='350' wmode='transparent'></embed></object></span></span>(Above: Richard “Popcorn” Wylie’s version of “Money (That’s What I Want)” is one of music writer Bill Dahl’s favorite early Motown songs.) </em></p>
<p><strong>By Joel Francis</strong></p>
<p>Chances are good that Chicago-based music writer Bill Dahl has penned the liner notes to at least one of your favorite reissues or compilations. Since 1985, Dahl has been commissioned to write the notes for hundreds of blues, R&#38;B, rockabilly and rock collections on both major and boutique labels.</p>
<p>In 1998, Dhal was recognized with a Grammy nomination for his essay on Ray Charles’ sax section included in the “Ray Charles – Genius and Soul: The 50<sup>th</sup> Anniversary Collection” box set. In 2000, he received the Keepin’ the Blues Alive award from the Blues Foundation in Memphis. His book, “Motown: The Golden Years” was published in 2001. Dahl’s latest project was co-authoring the amazingly comprehensive liner notes for each of the 12 volumes in the Hip-O Select “Complete Motown Singles” series.</p>
<p>Dahl also writes regularly on <a title="Music writing by Bill Dahl" href="http://billdahl.com" target="_blank">his Web site</a>. He recently spoke to The Daily Record via e-mail.</p>
<p><strong>The Daily Record: What was your first exposure to Motown and how did you become interested in writing about it? </strong></p>
<p>Bill Dahl: I started buying quite a bit of Motown vinyl—the Miracles, the Temptations, Jr. Walker, Marvin Gaye, the Four Tops—during the early ‘70s as an outgrowth of my record collecting interests, which were expanding rapidly from my original love of ‘50s rock and roll. I was getting into soul, blues, rockabilly, etc., and loving it all (much to the chagrin of my mainstream rock-loving high school classmates, who ragged me unmercifully; I guess I never was much of a conformist).</p>
<p><strong>TDR: What are some of the more interesting stories or facts you learned in researching these liner notes? </strong></p>
<p>BD: One thing that always impresses me is the loyalty the great majority of Motown’s ‘60s artists have to the company and Mr. Gordy to this day. I was fortunate to attend a charity tribute to him a few years ago in LA, and a virtual galaxy of Motown stars performed and paid homage to their beaming boss. Later, all of them trooped up to the stage at the end to sing the old Hitsville fight song!</p>
<p>I’ve found it interesting that several of the better-known songwriting teams had a similar setup to that of Lennon-McCartney—if one wrote it, both names went on automatically. It’s been a pleasure tracking down a lot of the lesser-known acts, including a lot of the Rare Earth label rockers, to get their intriguing stories. They’re too often overlooked and made their own contributions to Hitsville history.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: What are some of the biggest misconceptions about Motown? </strong></p>
<p>BD: The goofy and totally unfounded rumors that the mob was involved with the label, solely because a few very competent Caucasians wielded power in the front office. The only color Mr. Gordy cared about was green, so he hired the best person for the job. There were more than a few R&#38;B labels where “da boys” were in up to their eyeballs (no names here), but Motown wasn’t one of them.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: Motown’s big stars get a lot of attention. Who are some of the unheralded Motown artists worth checking out? Were there any long-forgotten gems you discovered as a result of working on the Complete Motown Singles notes? </strong></p>
<p>BD: I remember being amazed by Richard “Popcorn” Wylie’s version of “Money (That’s What I Want),” which is on the first Complete Singles box. It sounds like B. Bumble and the Stingers meet Hitsville!</p>
<p>Gino Parks’ “Same Thing” (which I knew about already) and several others of his songs are fantastic, as are Singin’ Sammy Ward’s early blues numbers, like “Who’s The Fool.” I love Jr. Walker’s early instrumentals – “Mutiny,” with James Jamerson’s jazz bass solo, is astounding – Shorty Long, Brenda Holloway, Kim Weston, the Velvelettes, and some of Little Stevie Wonder’s overlooked early outings. Los Angeles guitarist Arthur Adams’ “It’s Private Tonight,” which came out on Motown-distributed Chisa (it’s on the 1970 box), is the perfect marriage of blues and soul.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: How detrimental do you think Berry Gordy’s favoritism toward Diana Ross was to the label? How much better would Martha Reeves, Gladys Knight, Kim Weston and Mary Wells have fared otherwise?</strong></p>
<p>BD: It wasn’t detrimental in the slightest; the Supremes made some of the biggest hits of the ‘60s at a time when the British Invasion was otherwise dominating our charts, and Diana Ross had a coquettish mainstream appeal that none of the rest had. Mary Wells ruined her own career by walking away from Motown when she turned 21. Gladys Knight and the Pips were already stars when they arrived at Motown and far bigger ones when they left, though they got even hotter at Buddah. Kim Weston’s Motown career was inextricably intertwined with that of her husband, Motown A&#38;R chief Mickey Stevenson, for both better and worse.  And Martha Reeves and her Vandellas had a series of incredible hits, much like the Marvelettes, that made both groups long-term mainstays.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: There has been some disagreement over Tammi Terrell’s involvement on the duet albums with Marvin Gaye that bear her name. Did she return to the studio after her collapse and is that her voice on those songs? What was (Motown songwriter) Valerie Simpson’s role in these recordings? </strong></p>
<p>BD: It’s impossible to say for sure, since Valerie has never admitted any possible lead vocal involvement (Marvin Gaye’s biography stated such unequivocally, but I’d be less inclined to buy in).  I doubt we’ll ever know one way or the other for sure, though Valerie’s role as co-producer and co-writer on many of them was so crucial that Tammi was no doubt channeling her vocal approach when she sang them (if indeed she was on the last couple hits).</p>
<p><strong>TDR: The Complete Motown Singles Collection series ends in 1972. Why stop there? What is your favorite post-1972 Motown single or moment?</strong></p>
<p>BD:  That was the end of the Detroit era—the Golden Years—so it seems like a reasonable place to end it, though you’d have to ask my boss Harry Weinger (Vice President of A&#38;R for Universal Music – ed.) there. I’m not sure I have too many post-1972 favorites—I’m very partial to the 1959-72 Motown era we’ve covered on the Complete Motown Singles series—but  Gloria Jones, Yvonne Fair, Chicago blues guitarist Luther Allison, and Jr. Walker’s “Peace, Love and Understanding” come to mind.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: In your mind, what was the greatest single factor in the label’s decline? Was it the departure of Holland-Dozier-Holland, the move to Los Angeles, Gordy’s interest in movies or something else?</strong></p>
<p>BD: I don’t think we can accurately say Motown declined, since it’s still a going entity today and enjoyed a ton of hits after 1972. Times change and so do musical tastes, so keeping the same sound in 1972 that sold so well in the mid-‘60s would have been a recipe for disaster. Certainly HDH’s departure was a blow, but that gave other writers and producers more room to create their own soulful magic, like Norman Whitfield. The move to Los Angeles hurt the artists and musicians that chose to remain in the Motor City, and didn’t help the local economy either.</p>
<p>Mr. Gordy’s early ‘70s interest in the film industry made him a lot harder to reach on the phone at the time, much to the frustration of some staffers, but artistically it had a negligible effect since he wasn’t all that active musically by then anyway other than with the Jackson 5.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: Ultimately, what do you feel is Motown’s greatest and most lasting impact on music today? Why? </strong></p>
<p>BD: As the top indie label of the ‘60s, Motown turned the industry on its ear. There had been successful African-American owned record labels prior to Motown—Duke/Peacock, Fire/Fury, and Vee-Jay come to mind—but none were so monumentally successful. Gordy’s mantra of making R&#38;B attuned to pop sensibilities had never been pulled off so convincingly. He also did a masterful job of delegating authority in the A&#38;R department. It sounds like a cliché to say these classic recordings will never die, but they won’t.</p>
<p><strong>TDR: Now that this project is over, what is your next venture? Are there any more Motown projects on the horizon? </strong></p>
<p>BD: There are no Motown projects immediately scheduled, but I wrote the notes on Reel Music’s CD reissue of Jimmy Ruffin’s fine “Ruff ‘n Ready” Motown LP, complete with a fresh in-depth interview with the gracious Mr. Ruffin, which is just coming out.</p>
<p>I’m hoping and praying that Rhino Handmade finally releases the wonderful Wilson Pickett boxed set that it’s been sitting on for more than two years. A recent proclamation on the label’s website says it’s been scheduled. I wrote a huge track-by-track essay for it, much like the ones in the Motown boxes. It’s got everything he did for Atlantic on it and plenty more. Interestingly, the Funk Brothers played on Pickett’s first solo platters for Double L, a fact scantily documented before I started doing research for this box.</p>
<p><strong>Keep reading: </strong></p>
<p><a title="Music writing by Bill Dahl" href="http://billdahl.com/blog/" target="_blank">Music essays and reviews by Bill Dahl</a></p>
<p><strong>More features and interviews on The Daily Record:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2009/11/06/paul-shirley/">Former NBA player at home in KC music scene</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2009/07/24/jamie-foxx-brings-it-to-sprint-center-on-saturday/">Jamie Foxx brings it to Sprint Center on Saturday</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2009/05/08/george-kalinsky-painting-with-light/">George Kalinsky: Painting with Light</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2007/08/01/johnny-strikes-up-the-band/">Modest Mouse: Johnny Strikes Up the Band</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2006/08/03/death-cab/">Hail Death Cab</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2006/06/19/ever-fallen-for-the-buzzcocks/">Ever Fallen For The Buzzcocks?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2006/04/13/out-of-the-tar-pit-back-onto-the-stage/">Out of the Tar Pit Back Onto the Stage</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2001/12/08/local-doctor-claims-hes-treating-elvis/">Local Doctor Claims He’s Treating Elvis</a></p>
<p><a href="http://joelfrancis.com/2001/01/14/down-on-cypress-avenue/">Down on “Cypress Avenue”</a></p>
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<title><![CDATA[Girl Groups, Girl Culture: Popular Music and Identity in the 1960s by Jacqueline Warwick]]></title>
<link>http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/11/08/girl-groups-girl-culture-jacqueline-warwick/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Alyx Vesey</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[Cover to Girl Groups, Girl Culture (Routledge, 2007); image courtesy of routledgemusic.com For finan]]></description>
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<p>For financial reasons, I was only able to swing one day of Fun Fun Fun Fest so I&#8217;m blogging while many in this fair city are catching some good music in Waterloo Park. Although, admittedly, if you&#8217;re gonna do one day of the festival, I think yesterday was the way to go. I got to check several bands I&#8217;ve never seen before off my list: No Age (who I&#8217;ve missed by a marrow margin at least three times), Jesus Lizard, Pharcyde, Les Savy Fav, and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/arts/music/15rubi.html" target="_blank">Death</a>.</p>
<p>But if you have the scratch, please make sure everyone sees one of Mika Miko&#8217;s last shows ever on the black stage at 2:55. I might try to get down there later just to hear it from the other side of the fence.</p>
<p>Mika Miko&#8217;s exceptional presence on this year&#8217;s bill seems as good a place as any to remember that, as Melissa at GRCA astutely pointed out in her recent post, this year boasts a very <a href="http://girlsrockcampaustin.blogspot.com/2009/11/dude-dude-dude-fest.html" target="_blank">dudecentric line-up</a>. So I&#8217;ll review Jacqueline Warwick&#8217;s book <em>Girl Groups, Girl Culture: Popular Music and Identity in the 1960s</em> book in the hopes that at least one historically significant girl group or all-female band will reunite for next year&#8217;s FFFF like Death did this year. And like the Shangri-Las did at CBGB&#8217;s in 1977.</p>
<p>As much as I hate comparing women&#8217;s work so as to pit them in opposition, Warwick&#8217;s book is a tremendous example of how effective it can be to narrow the scope of the cultural moment being covered, something I wish Charlotte Greig would have considered when penning her book on <a href="http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/08/04/will-you-still-love-me-tomorrow-charlotte-greig-reconfigures-girl-groups/" target="_blank">girl groups</a>. While Greig truncates the history of the girl group era in order to broaden the definition of what a girl group is, Warwick focuses primarily on this brief but important moment in history (roughly between 1958 and 1965), considering its ongoing influence as an epilogue.</p>
<p>By taking this approach, Warwick considers the girl group era and its participants from several different, often surprising, areas of inquiry. As a result, she proves the cultural signficance of a popular form dismissed by many as superficial, polished, and phony who instead tend to favor rock music&#8217;s supposed transcendent raw authenticity, and argues strongly that this binary construction is inherently gendered. Duh, and amen.</p>
<p>Warwick posits that one of the most important things about the girl group era was its insistence on putting girls and young women in the spotlight, introducing a complex, celebratoryn and at times contradictory performance of what the author calls &#8220;girlness&#8221;. Often, these ladies were working class, and of African American or mixed racial and ethnic heritage. They had few options for financial mobility and minimal career prospects being marriage, motherhood, clerical jobs, and day labor. Forming vocal groups together and cutting records gave them access to other opportuntities toward professional advancement and personal growth, expanding the idea of girlhood as an identity across race and class lines. </p>
<p>Sometimes these groupings resulted in the cultivation of considerable, devoted fan bases that, in The Supremes and The Ronnettes&#8217; cases, were comparable to Beatlemania. Some of those fans were even other male-only rock bands, like The Beach Boys, The Beatles, and later, The Ramones. Take that, pop-rock, girl-boy binaries!</p>
<p>In other words, I&#8217;m telling you to read this book.</p>
<p>One thing I appreciate about Warwick&#8217;s book from the outset is the celebration of the female voice. As I&#8217;ve long believed and argued extensively in this blog, we cannot give short-shrift to singers. While they can assuredly be tokenized and objectified, but they can also be empowered, embodied, and forge their own agency. Heartenly, she finds much going on with the voice, a distinct instrument no matter how it may have been manipulated or homogenized by label owners like Motown&#8217;s Barry Gordy and producers like Phil Spector and his overwhelming wall of sound. She hears the genteel precision of Diana Ross&#8217;s soprano, the urgent purr of Ronnie Spector&#8217;s husky alto, the untrained wavering of Shirelle Shirley Owens&#8217;s pitch, the gutteral inflections on Supreme Florence Ballard&#8217;s tone, the put-on nasal affectations of Broadway-trained groups like The Angels, the racial dimensions of Dusty Springfield&#8217;s blue-eyed soul, and the teenaged monotone of Shangri-La Mary Weiss.</p>
<p>She also hears these girls singing <em>to</em> one another, often in their own forms of feminine dialect and for the purposes of providing support and advice. On record, acts like The Dixie Cups, The Crystals, Betty Everett, and The Velvelettes would pepper their songs with seemingly nonsensical words and phrases like &#8220;iko iko,&#8221; &#8220;da doo ron ron,&#8221; &#8220;shoop,&#8221; and &#8220;doo lang doo lang,&#8221; often provided by backing vocalists as a means of support for the lead vocalist, who might be intimating her feelings about burgeoning romance or her conflicted feelings in the aftermath of a break-up.</p>
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<p>Often, these girls were providing one another moral support and providing advice as well. While Warwick notes that advice songs tended to be the domain of girl groups with African American members like The Velvelettes, The Shirelles, The Chiffons, and The Marvelettes, they often imparted wisdom to their audiences that they learned from their mothers or their sisters, as well as sharing what they&#8217;ve learned from their own experiences. In doing so, these songs provided a counterargument to the assertion that girl groups only sang about boys and also expanded female discourse in popular music by including the words and experiences of generations of women into then present-day pop songs by girls.  </p>
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<p>It cannot be ignored that while many girl group songs were written by men, not all of them were. As mentioned elsewhere, Brill Building stalwarts like Cynthia Weil, <a href="http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/08/27/r-i-p-ellie-greenwich/" target="_blank">Ellie Greenwich</a>, and <a href="http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/08/23/three-sides-now-why-carole-joni-and-carly-matter/" target="_blank">Carole King</a> were of paramount importance to the era. Many of these women, like Greenwich, wrote about seemingly teenage issues like young love and treated it as legitimate, at times giving it life-and-death importance, as she did on The Shangri-Las&#8217; &#8220;Leader of the Pack.&#8221; </p>
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<p>King is a particularly interesting case as well. Before striking out on her own as a solo artist, she wrote many important songs for girl groups. Some songs, like The Crystals&#8217; &#8220;He Hit Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)&#8221; address the troubling and dangerous aspects of patriarchy and oppression, and have been covered to harrowing effect by bands like Hole and Grizzly Bear.</p>
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<p>Other songs King penned gesture toward the era&#8217;s prescience regarding shifting cultural attitudes toward feminism, female agency, and sexual autonomy, as on The Shirelles&#8217; anthemic &#8220;Will You Love Me Tomorrow?&#8221; </p>
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<p>Girl groups were also clearly singing with one another, as girl groups often were comprised of siblings and relatives who wore matching outfits and performed intricate choreography to suggest that these girls were a unit, despite at times having clearly defined lead singers and stars who (especially in Diana Ross&#8217;s case) were thin and had a more conventional look and sound.</p>
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<p>It was this image coordination that made The Ronnettes able to ingratiate night clubs when they were underaged, gave them the confidence to perform at those night clubs, and provided them with a sense of belonging that made them tough enough to brave any New York City street. It also makes this sense of actual or engineered sisterhood and camderadie seem especially fragile when success encroaches on it, as the tragic dimensions of <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/arts/music/17rone.html" target="_blank">Estelle Bennett</a> and <a href="http://www.aarpmagazine.org/books/lost_supreme_review.html" target="_blank">Florence Ballard</a>&#8217;s post-girl group lives remind. </p>
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<p>Warwick shies from making any explicitly queer connections to girl groups beyond passing references to Springfield and Lesley Gore&#8217;s orientations and their relationships with the closet. I would have liked a bit more discussion of the queer dynamics of the groups&#8217; homosocial bonding both on- and off-record. A brief appraisal of queer fandom (seemingly most pronounced among certain circles of gay men, though not exclusively) would also have been appreciated.</p>
<p>That said, I do appreciate Warwick reminding her readers of girl groups&#8217; continual impact. As this is the section of the book that gets less focus, it would be worthwhile to read Warwick&#8217;s and Greig&#8217;s books together to get a larger sense of how punk, hip hop, and contemporary pop music were influenced by girl groups.</p>
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<p>I would hasten to add country music to the list of genres that were shaped by this era. Given last night&#8217;s <em>Saturday Night Live</em>, which featured crossover star Taylor Swift as both host and musical guest (a rare opportunity for most pop stars, unless they are Justin or Britney). Watching her play a brace-faced teenager in <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/107507/saturday-night-live-driving-psa#s-p2-sr-i1" target="_blank">a skit</a> about parents who are worse drivers than their kids and her performance of &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DLll6b_eZE&#38;feature=related" target="_blank">You Belong To Me</a>&#8221; complete with careful, song-appropriate gestures, it was clear to me that the girl group era continues. As Mika Miko performs one of their last shows later today, I&#8217;ll wonder where it&#8217;ll permeate next.</p>
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<title><![CDATA[La Hora de Rob - Programa # 13]]></title>
<link>http://elmostradorderob.com/2009/11/03/la-hora-de-rob-programa-13/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>robfleming</dc:creator>
<guid>http://elmostradorderob.com/2009/11/03/la-hora-de-rob-programa-13/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Las canciones ocultas en The Wire, esa magnífica serie que relata las virtudes, miserias y depravaci]]></description>
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<p>Las canciones ocultas en <a href="http://www.hbo.com/thewire/" target="_blank">The Wire</a>, esa magnífica serie que relata las virtudes, miserias y depravaciones varias de todo bicho viviente en la ciudad de Baltimore, protagonizan la entrega número 13 de nuestro podcast, así como el último trabajo de Steve Earle  y otras sustancias peligrosas&#8230;</p>
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<p>Podéis visitar <a href="http://lahoraderob.podomatic.com/rss2.xml" target="_blank">la página del Podcast</a> para descargar los últimos  programas ó <a href="http://lahoraderob.podomatic.com/rss2.xml" target="_blank">suscribiros al RSS</a></p>
<p>Listado de temas:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.tomwaits.com/" target="_blank">Tom Waits</a> &#8211; &#8220;Way down in the hole&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.johnnycash.com/" target="_blank">Johnny Cash</a> &#8211; &#8220;Ring of fire&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&#38;sql=11:wiftxqr5ldfe~T1" target="_blank">Bill Withers</a> &#8211; &#8220;Use me&#8221;<!--more--></li>
<li><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&#38;searchlink=MARY&#124;WELLS&#38;sql=11:gifpxqr5ldfe~T1" target="_blank">Mary Wells</a> &#8211; &#8220;You beat me to the punch&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&#38;sql=11:aifixqr5ldde~T1" target="_blank">War</a> &#8211; &#8220;The Cisco Kid&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.thekingsolomonburke.com/" target="_blank">Solomon Burke</a> &#8211; &#8220;Got to get you off my mind&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.velvelettes.com/" target="_blank">Velvelettes</a> &#8211; &#8220;He was really saying something&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&#38;sql=11:3ifexqr5ld6e~T1" target="_blank">The Nighthawks</a> &#8211; &#8220;Sixteen tons&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&#38;searchlink=DUKE&#124;ELLINGTON&#38;sql=11:fbfexqq5ldae~T1" target="_blank">Duke Ellington</a> &#8211; &#8220;Fleurette Africaine&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.steveearle.com/" target="_blank">Steve Earle</a> &#8211; &#8220;Guitar town&#8221;</li>
<li>Steve Earle &#8211; &#8220;Colorado girl&#8221;</li>
<li>Steve Earle &#8211; &#8220;Goodbye&#8217;s all we&#8217;ve got left&#8221;</li>
<li>Steve Earle &#8211; &#8220;Poncho &#38; Lefty&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nino-ferrer.com/frame.html" target="_blank">Nino Ferrer</a> &#8211; &#8220;Cannabis&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.cdandlp.com/item/2/0-1605-0-1-0/113902344/richard-de-bordeaux-daniel-beretta-la-drogue-le-temps-fou-ost-.html" target="_blank">Richard de Bordeaux &#38; Daniel Beretta</a> &#8211; &#8220;La Drogue&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Auger" target="_blank">Brian Auger</a> &#8211; &#8220;Black Cat&#8221;</li>
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<title><![CDATA[holy new music batman.  ]]></title>
<link>http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/holy-new-music-batman/</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>madhouse6</dc:creator>
<guid>http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/holy-new-music-batman/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[so i had been texting back and forth with my buddy scott in iowa about this new chick singer; paloma]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p style="text-align:justify;">so i had been texting back and forth with my buddy scott in iowa about this new chick singer; paloma faith, who&#8217;s video for her tune &#8216;new york city&#8217; i fell in love with (check it out below)&#8230; anyway, he just sent me a mp3 disk with a serious tonnage of new music from some people i&#8217;ve never heard of (love that!).  the disk leans heavily towards modern soul/r&#38;b &#8211; this is going to take me some time to devour.  and it&#8217;s right on the heels of my <a href="http://strangerelationship.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/and-on-the-8th-day-god-created-amoeba/" target="_blank">annual shopping spree at amoeba records</a> in la (coming this tuesday)&#8230; so much music, so little time.</p>
<p>so i&#8217;m currently digging:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-306" title="ladyhawke-product" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/ladyhawke-product.jpg" alt="ladyhawke-product" width="300" height="300" /><a href="http://www.ladyhawkemusic.com/" target="_blank">ladyhawke</a> &#8211; ladyhawke.  the few tunes i&#8217;ve heard of hers, i&#8217;ve loved.  somewhere between ladytron &#38; goldfrapp?</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-305" title="covers-sotu-in-5-1" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/covers-sotu-in-5-1.jpg" alt="covers-sotu-in-5-1" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;">depeche mode &#8211; songs of the universe; demos.  this one oughta be interesting &#8217;cause i gave up on dm years ago. anxious to check it out tho&#8217;</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-304" title="bryn-christopher-my-world-444957" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/bryn-christopher-my-world-444957.jpg" alt="bryn-christopher-my-world-444957" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.brynchristopher.com/" target="_blank">christopher bryn</a> &#8211; my world.  his voice blew me away on the first cut i listened to.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paloma_Faith" target="_blank">paloma faith</a> &#8211; do you want the truth or something beautiful?  check her video out down below.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-310" title="velvelettes" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/velvelettes.jpg" alt="velvelettes" width="301" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Velvelettes" target="_blank">the velvelettes</a> &#8211; the very best of.  a surprise.  i know nothing about these ladies, but how can you go wrong with motown?</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-309" title="Melody%28album%29" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/melody28album29.jpg" alt="Melody%28album%29" width="300" height="301" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.sharleenspiteri.co.uk/" target="_blank">sharleen spiteri</a> &#8211; melody.  ahh the voice behind &#8216;texas&#8217;  love love love hear.  i&#8217;ve heard good things about this disk from my friends across the pond.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-308" title="daniel_merriweather-love_and_war_b1" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/daniel_merriweather-love_and_war_b1.jpg" alt="daniel_merriweather-love_and_war_b1" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;">daniel merriweather &#8211; love &#38; war.  i fell in love with daniel&#8217;s voice on the <a href="http://strangerelationship.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/mark-ronson-is-a-god/" target="_blank">mark ronson</a> disk version (his cover of a smiths tune was one of the high points).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-307" title="27A28F52351939FF5DE7DC5ED059C4" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/27a28f52351939ff5de7dc5ed059c4.jpg?w=300" alt="27A28F52351939FF5DE7DC5ED059C4" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://vvbrown.com/" target="_blank">v.v. brown</a> &#8211; travelling like the light.  ok, this chick is the bomb.  this album is outstanding.  funky &#38; rockin&#8217; &#38; very very soulful.  i think i&#8217;m in love.  &#8217;shark in the water&#8217; is the shit.  very very fuckin&#8217; cool tune.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-311" title="1241958446_cover" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/1241958446_cover.jpg?w=300" alt="1241958446_cover" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://kylieauldist.com/" target="_blank">kylie auldist</a> &#8211; just say.  this melbourne jazz singer has pipes like you wouldn&#8217;t believe.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-312" title="1zp5y11" src="http://plutodrive.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/1zp5y111.jpg?w=300" alt="1zp5y11" width="300" height="300" /></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.mikasounds.com/" target="_blank">mika</a> &#8211; the boy who knew too much.  this may be the one miss on the whole collection for me.  i think i&#8217;m the only gay man in the world not in love with mika.  i enjoyed grace kelly from his last disk, so i&#8217;ll certainly give this a shot. might be fun right?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">the disk also had a track by the capitol children&#8217;s choir doing lily allen&#8217;s chinese  you need to check that out too.  freaking amazing.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">and the aforementioned paloma faith vid:</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Great 60s Pop - 24: The Velvelettes]]></title>
<link>http://everetttrue4.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/great-60s-pop-24-the-velvelettes/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>everetttrue</dc:creator>
<guid>http://everetttrue4.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/great-60s-pop-24-the-velvelettes/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Thanks to this fellow for reminding me of this fine group again. Oh, absolutely.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/bart.mcdonagh">this fellow</a> for reminding me of this fine group again. Oh, absolutely.</p>
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<title><![CDATA["Will you still love me tomorrow?": Charlotte Greig reconfigures girl groups]]></title>
<link>http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/08/04/will-you-still-love-me-tomorrow-charlotte-greig-reconfigures-girl-groups/</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Alyx Vesey</dc:creator>
<guid>http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/08/04/will-you-still-love-me-tomorrow-charlotte-greig-reconfigures-girl-groups/</guid>
<description><![CDATA[Cover of Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?: Girl Groups from the 50s on . . .; image courtesy of Amaz]]></description>
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<p>As a means to enrich my interest in <a href="http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/06/16/id-much-rather-be-with-the-girls-girl-groups-endure/" target="_blank">girl groups</a>, I&#8217;ve been looking for literature on the subject. One book my thesis adviser recommended was English writer Charlotte Greig&#8217;s <em>Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?: Girl Groups from the 50s on . . .</em>, which covers the girl group era (roughly 1960-1964) from both sides of the Atlantic, as well as girl groups that predated the era and formed (and continue to form) in the wake of its legacy.</p>
<p>I liked this book fine. It&#8217;s a good primer for folks just getting into girl groups (I&#8217;d certainly assign the chapters on the Brill Building or Motown to an undergrad class on gender and music culture). It&#8217;s smart and celebratory yet critical of the gender politics of girl groups without alienating a reader not hip to, say, Judith Butler&#8217;s thoughts on gender performativity. Greig also employs her trade skills as a journalist, so there&#8217;s lots of neat and valuable first-person accounts from folks like Brill Building songwriter Ellie Greenwich and members of the Marvelettes and the Velvelettes. And there&#8217;s lots of fascinating tidbits Greig throws in that could be spun into their own books. For example:</p>
<p>Did you know that <em>American Bandstand</em> started as a radio show on WFIL in Philadelphia, on the outskirts of town? Did you know that it became a television show because bored Italian American teenage girls from the neighboring West Catholic High School would hang out after school and start dancing to the records? Did you also know that existing within this group were class tensions that were easily reflected in girls&#8217; particular clothes and hairdos? I certainly didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Perhaps unsurprising, but did you know that Brill Building songwriter/producer Ellie Greenwich worked with her husband Jeff Barry, who elbowed her out of songwriting and production credits because he assumed he&#8217;d be the breadwinner while she had the babies? They divorced. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Did you know that almost all of the girl groups Greig discusses (and/or interviews) failed to be compensated for their services? Perhaps unsurprising when you consider the larger context of the early days of rock music and its shady legal dealings with publishing and recording rights, but pretty important when considering the supposed &#8220;disposability&#8221; of girl groups.</p>
<p>Did you know that Reparata from Reparata and the Delrons (one of the best-named girl groups of the golden era) got her name from a saint? Kinda fascinating. I&#8217;d read an entire book on girl groups and Catholicism!</p>
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<p>Did you know about that the role the British Invasion had in dismantling the girl group era was largely a myth? Many believe that English rock groups like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and their brethren were responsible for the demise of the girl group era (which is poor history, as you can see American acts like The Beach Boys, The Temptations, and The Supremes right up there with The Fab Four on the pop charts). Greig does well to remind her audience that groups like The Beatles were actually inspired by girl groups and covered many girl group songs. Instead, Greig attributes pre-mature folds of girl group songwriting factories like the Brill Building out of fear that the British Invasion would spell their demise.</p>
<p>Did you know that there were class differences between the girl groups at Motown? I certainly didn&#8217;t but, again, it makes sense. According to other groups like The Marvelettes, The Supremes were given unequal treatment at the record label because they were savvy, culturally-aware city girls. Other groups were comprised of country girls who didn&#8217;t grow up in Detroit and, thus, were not as hip or poised.</p>
<p>But these gems, which are often dropped without too much comment, speaks to my biggest problem with the book: it is simply too broad. And at just over 200 pages with a scant bibliography, the fact that she covers so much ground without digging deeper really left me wanting.</p>
<p>That said, I think this book does a noble job broadening the definition of what a girl group is. Greig&#8217;s principle mission, as she defines from the outset, is to dispense with the myth that girl groups were born in 1960 and died in 1964. She maintains that girl groups started forming post-World War II and are still forming and recording today (&#8220;today&#8221; meaning the late 1980s at the time of her writing).</p>
<p>She also argues that girl groups are not adherent to a particular genre, which, read alongside the Rhino girl group box set, seems very true. The girl group sound was actually not one singular generic entity but incorporated R&#38;B, pop, soul, folk, and the blues. Thus, after the 1960s, when the girl group legacy endured, groups would revisit it while folding in reggae, disco, punk, funk, electronic music, and many other styles. And, as girl groups evolved, Greig argues that sometimes they became more politically minded. Particularly in the 70s, funk-based girl groups like Honey Cone tended to endorse a &#8220;black is beautiful&#8221; agenda.</p>
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<p>And acts like LaBelle expanded <em>how</em> black could be beautiful by incorporating the (traditionally white, male) glam- and art-rock stylings of David Bowie and Peter Gabriel-era Genesis. However, my partner is quick (and right) to point out that Funkadelic adopted a similar performance style at around the same time, so let&#8217;s view <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2WO1e_5zsQ" target="_blank">LaBelle</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEJ4_GL7200" target="_blank">Funkadelic</a> alongside one another.</p>
<p>Punk bands like Blondie and The Slits became more makeshift in their look and self-reflexive and parodic in their approach to addressing femininity and consumer culture in their songs. But I feel like Greig gives more focus toward Blondie, so lets look at The Slits more closely.</p>
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<p>I do find it a little disconcerting that The Runaways, The Bangles, and The Go-Gos are largely broadsided in this discussion. If two of Greig&#8217;s principle concerns with girl groups are: 1) they tend not to have female instrumentalists and 2) they tend to be controlled by male managers and producers, it would have been nice to see her discuss girl <em>bands</em> who encountered and had (varying degrees of) success breaking free from male control.</p>
<p>This omission makes Greig&#8217;s inclusion of Vanity 6 and Mary Jane Girls a bit of a hard sell for me. Despite being multi-racial and (often celebratory and raunchy) advocates for sexual agency and pleasure, both groups were also formed and almost completely controlled by men (Prince and Rick James, respectively). As Greig points this out, I would have appreciated a broader context that I feel dicussing girl bands could have provided.</p>
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<p>That said, I do think the inclusion of Bananarama is interesting, as they had a punkish, thrift-store edge and often linked themselves to the girl group era by covering song like The Velvelettes&#8217; &#8220;He Was Really Saying Something.&#8221; I suppose this gets us into the dangerous territory of &#8220;wearing&#8221; and &#8220;trying on&#8221; race, but I&#8217;ll let you decide.</p>
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<p>I also appreciate that Greig included hip hop in the discussion of girl groups, vis-à-vis <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgD3fJXw2iU" target="_blank">Salt-N-Pepa</a>, though fear that past lesser-known acts like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g51SmeXDVq8" target="_blank">Northern State</a>, hip hop has historically favored solo artists to groups and has provided scarce resources for women, whether on their own or rhyming with friends.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be curious as to what Greig would say about groups from my youth like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5MZOVrudJI" target="_blank">TLC</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIYpvlQP_s" target="_blank">En Vogue</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6qiV2nS6Js" target="_blank">SWV</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLIiF15wjQ" target="_blank">The Spice Girls</a> and, during my high school years, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GWNIBHTi88" target="_blank">Destiny&#8217;s Child</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=663Qo1cJIFo&#38;feature=channel" target="_blank">3LW</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy2VJYo0mmE" target="_blank">Dream</a>. And of course, if we&#8217;re expanding girl groups to include punkier acts, I wonder what Greig thinks of <a href="http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/07/15/music-videos-band-performance-clips/" target="_blank">Vivian Girls and Mika Miko</a> alongside neo-retro acts like The Pipettes, as well as acts like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gvcpb4_7ZQ" target="_blank">The Pussycat Dolls</a> who are, for better or for worse, one of the few integrated, multi-racial girl groups to achieve mainstream success since <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ONH3hIjO3c" target="_blank">The Ronettes</a>.</p>
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<p>Again, all worthwhile endeavors; each in need of their own book for further inquiry.</p>
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<link>http://feministmusicgeek.com/2009/06/16/id-much-rather-be-with-the-girls-girl-groups-endure/</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Alyx Vesey</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>Summer is a party-time kind of season. It&#8217;s also a road-trip kind of season. Recently, I lent an item for both a party and a road trip to some friends that will be the subject of this post. It&#8217;s Rhino Records&#8217; girl group anthology <em><a href="http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=74645" target="_blank">One Kiss Can Lead to Another</a></em>. 120 classic and obscure girl group tracks from the 1960s. These songs are timeless and go with everything. Not a morning person? Throw this on for your morning commute. Having a party? This is sure to please. Doing chores around the house and want to wink knowingly at your own domestication? Here&#8217;s your soundtrack.</p>
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<p>Yes, this collection has been around for a long time (summer 2005). It&#8217;s even been around my house for a long time &#8212; my partner got it for me Christmas 2007. It&#8217;s a little pricey &#8212; retail value is around $70 &#8212; but in my estimation, it&#8217;s worth it. It is at once a fun party favor guaranteed to get people dancing, a site of feminist discourse, an incredibly well-preserved piece of musical history, and a tasty pop culture artifact. And for all you commodity fetishists who like your semiology, I have to point out that the collection comes in a hat box, each volume is packaged to look like a compact mirror with a reflective panel inside, and each disc is designed to look like a powder puff. You even get a diary that goes with it that contains multiple critical essays and key information on each song.</p>
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<p>I admit that when I originally received this collection, I was a little disheartened by what I originally perceived as a very limited notion of gender in popular music. Ironically enough, I was cooking when I listened to the first disc and was like &#8220;all these songs are about girls being subservient to men.&#8221; Later, when <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqevDRhfrso" target="_blank">Vivian Girls</a> appropriated the girl group sound to make garage rock and shoegaze&#8217;s indebtedness to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_of_Sound" target="_blank">Spector Sound</a> more pronounced (and I had a good two years of post-structuralist theory under my belt), I revisited this collection and was pleasantly surprised at just how much was going on.</p>
<p>The first thing that immediately hit me about the collection is how good it sounded. The folks at Rhino took great pains to make sure these songs, some of which were all but lost because the last few out-of-print copies and master tapes were damaged, destroyed, or missing, sound brand new. These songs were originally recorded, arranged, produced, and mastered with the car stereo in mind, and damn if they don&#8217;t sound as shiny and clean as the lines on a 1961 mint-condition Corvette.</p>
<p>The other thing that struck me about the collection is how the term &#8220;girl group&#8221; is less a catch-all term for female pop and pop-informed R&#38;B acts primarily active during the first half of the 1960s and actually a pretty diverse, borderless signifier. All kinds of interesting influences and sounds are in this collection &#8212; songs informed by pop, R&#38;B, country, blues, rockabilly, folk, bossa nova, jazz and songs that would help to inform dub, reggae, hip hop, and electronic music.</p>
<p>While I have yet only confirmed that two pieces on this collection were actually sampled in other songs (Daedelus lifted the vocal, hand clap, and drum tracks of The Pin-Ups&#8217; &#8220;Lookin&#8217; for Boys&#8221; for &#8220;Fair-Weather Friends,&#8221; Saint Etienne borrowed from Dusty Springfield&#8217;s &#8220;I Can&#8217;t Wait to See My Baby&#8217;s Face&#8221; for &#8220;Nothing Can Stop Us Now&#8221;), I am also struck by how sample-friendly a lot of these songs are. The Flirtations&#8217; &#8220;Nothing But a Heartache&#8221; and The Jewels&#8217; &#8220;Opportunity,&#8221; among many others, could easily be incorporated into any hip hop track (specifically one that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_Wonder" target="_blank">9th Wonder</a> is producing).</p>
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<p>Which also lets you in on how weird and ground-breaking a lot of these songs are. Listen to the reverb-laden a capella opener for The Chiffons&#8217; &#8220;Nobody Knows What&#8217;s Goin&#8217; On (In My Mind But Me)&#8221; and you get a sense for how ESG and Luscious Jackson came to their sound. Keep your ears open for the eerie theramin arrangement in Julie Driscoll&#8217;s stately break-up anthem &#8220;I Know You Love Me Not.&#8221; A song like The Bitter Sweets&#8217; &#8220;What a Lonely Way to Start the Summertime&#8221; has a hollowed-out, haunted psychedelic sound that may have left quite an impression on Broadcast. Songs like &#8220;Nightmare&#8221; by The Whyte Boots easily draw a line from girl groups to L7. Some dance songs, like The Goodies&#8217; &#8220;Sophisticated Boom Boom&#8221; and Marsha Gee&#8217;s &#8220;Peanut Duck&#8221; have an effortless quirky cool to them that no hipster can fake. And that doesn&#8217;t even get into The Tammys admittedly un-PC rave-up &#8220;Egyptian Shumba&#8221; that The Black Kids <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMeB5xDfpE" target="_blank">covered</a>, but couldn&#8217;t match the original&#8217;s manic glee.</p>
<p>In addition to obscure songs by minor recording artists once left to dust in storage vaults, you get little-heard songs by bigger names. Behold the woozy drum syncopation with Cher&#8217;s deep alto in &#8220;Dream Baby.&#8221; Behold the sugary urgency of Dolly Parton&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t Drop Out.&#8221; Behold the cinematic majesty of The Shangri-Las&#8217; &#8220;The Train to Kansas City.&#8221; Listen for The Supremes&#8217; &#8220;When the Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes&#8221; and The Ronettes&#8217; &#8220;He Did It&#8221; (one of the few early cuts Rhino could get a hold of without having to involve producer Phil Spector). Get dirty with Wanda Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;Funnel of Love&#8221; and Lulu&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ll Come Running&#8221; (which features future Zeppelin ax-man Jimmy Page on guitar). Even folks like mod it-girl Twiggy got a shot at the pop charts with the proper little ditty &#8220;When I Think of You.&#8221;</p>
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<p>There are also songs that were obscure and later became popular when other people (perhaps unsurprisingly, primarily white artists) covered them. P.P. Arnold got to Cat Stevens&#8217;s &#8220;The First Cut is the Deepest&#8221; first. Former Cookies member Earl-Jean scored a minor hit with Gerry Goffin and Carole King&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;m Into Somethin&#8217; Good&#8221; a year before Herman&#8217;s Hermits rode it the top of the pop charts in 1965. Dee Dee Warwick made minimal commotion with &#8220;You&#8217;re No Good&#8221; before Betty Everett and Linda Ronstadt got ahold of it.</p>
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<p>Also, not all of these songs are about boys who treat girls bad. Yes, that&#8217;s a component and the folks at Rhino would be ignoring a huge lyrical motif and its pre-second wave context by omitting the tracks about fellas who &#8220;lie sly, slick, and shy,&#8221; as The Velvelettes sing in &#8220;Needle in a Haystack.&#8221; And by putting these songs in a larger context, lyrics like &#8220;I know he&#8217;s cheating on me, but I don&#8217;t care&#8221; in The Angels&#8217; &#8220;I Adore Him&#8221; play both dated and baldly disturbing. </p>
<p>I also think by acknowledging the racial aspects of girl group may also help confront the fact that many of these groups were comprised of African American girls, many of whom had to deal with the ingrained lack of social or economic value placed on the romantic love and family units built by people of color in white society. A song like The Fabulettes&#8217; &#8220;Try the Worrying Way,&#8221; which is about how a heavy-set woman becomes skinny as a result of her partner&#8217;s infidelity, cannot be read without this context and becomes profoundly sad with it.</p>
<p>The raced component, alongside issues of age, is crucial to understanding what girl groups contributed &#8212; a space for young women and young women of color, many of whom were working class and had minimal opportunities in the job market, to be a part of the work force. This isn&#8217;t to absent that many of these groups were designed, produced, and controlled by men. But some were not, or found ways out of it.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s much more going on in these songs than waiting for boys to shape up. For one, there are a lot of break-up anthems. There are elegant songs like &#8220;Walking In Different Circles&#8221; from Goldie and the Gingerbreads. There are poignant odes to post-break-up autonomy like Reparata and the Delrons&#8217; &#8220;I&#8217;m Nobody&#8217;s Baby Now.&#8221; There are also almost-love songs like Sandie Shaw&#8217;s &#8220;Girl Don&#8217;t Come&#8221; (which was written and arranged by Burt Bacharach). There are maternal warnings of men&#8217;s true nature in Cathy Saint&#8217;s &#8220;Big Bad World.&#8221; There are humorous rejections in The Hollywood Jills&#8217; &#8220;He Makes Me So Mad.&#8221; And, importantly, there are sneering kiss-offs and odes to female bonding like Donna Lynn&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;d Much Rather Be With the Girls&#8221; (originally written by and for The Rolling Stones).</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s not hard to read all of these break-up songs and anthems to being single and out with girlfriends as having a queer element to them. The renouncement of stupid boys, or heterosexual courtship altogether, is heightened by girls singing to, for, and most importantly, <em>with</em> one another. In close proximity. In intimate spaces. In matching outfits.</p>
<p>You also get lots of songs about death, many, like The Goodees&#8217; &#8220;Condition Red,&#8221; that recount dark, grisly tales of parental disapproval, juvenile delinquency, and racing accidents gone horribly wrong. This was the era where boys beefed it on motorcycles, after all. Indeed, this teen angst bullshit has a body count.</p>
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<p>You even get critiques about the fleetingness of youth, the plastic lies of feminine consumerism, and the urgency of action in songs like Toni Basil&#8217;s anthem &#8220;I&#8217;m 28,&#8221; which I fully intend to sing drunk at my birthday party in two years.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, she was 23 when she recorded it. She&#8217;s 65 now and still working. I think she did okay for herself.</p>
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<p>But there are also celebratory songs about love (many explicitly heterosexual, some more ambiguous). These songs are important too, particularly because most of these songs were sung (and, in some cases, written) by unmarried teenagers. Though marriage was the stated goal in many of these songs, it hadn&#8217;t happened yet. Thus, it was pretty easy to dismiss these songs, performed by teenage girls, as frivilous. But they aren&#8217;t. The feelings, regardless of how artfully or artlessly worded, are real and amplified by mammoth orchestration and pop-song immediacy. Take a song like The Girlfriends&#8217; &#8220;My One and Only Jimmy Boy.&#8221; A giddy, up-tempo ode to love on the surface, its hook, soaring vocals, and wall-of-sound production takes teen love to &#8220;Hulk smash&#8221; levels of power and might.</p>
<p>And, of course, a lot of these songs were written by <em>women</em>. Carole King, in addition to singing two songs included in the anthology, wrote many of these hits, along with fellow <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brill_Building" target="_blank">Brill Building</a> dwellers Ellie Greenwich and Cynthia Weil and many other independent female songwriters.</p>
<p>Thus, this collection has the best that any feminist music geek could hope for &#8212; sites of discourse that have, to borrow from <em>American Bandstand</em>, &#8220;a good beat and you can dance to it.&#8221;</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Saturday Night Music, June 6 - The Velvelettes' "He Was Really Saying Something"]]></title>
<link>http://thisblksistaspage.wordpress.com/2009/06/06/saturday-night-music-june-6-the-velvelettes-he-was-really-saying-something/</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
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<description><![CDATA[These girls weren&#8217;t as well-known as The Supremes or Martha and The Vandellas in the Motown ro]]></description>
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<p>These girls weren&#8217;t as well-known as The Supremes or Martha and The Vandellas in the Motown roster, but they continued to record until 1970.  The original members were Bertha Barbee and Mildred Gill.  Bertha recruited her cousin Norma Barbee to join the group; Mildred Gill brought in her younger sister Carolyn and Carolyn&#8217;s best friend Betty Kelly.  Carolyn was only 14 or 15 when she joined The Velvelettes.  In 1964, Betty Kelly left the group to join Martha and the Vandellas, and then there were four.</p>
<p>The Velvelettes are famous for two songs, &#8220;Needle in a Haystack,&#8221; and &#8220;He Was Really Saying Something,&#8221; produced by Norman Whitfield.  But they never completed an album for Motown.  After some personnel changes and break-ups occasioned by marriages and children, The Velvelettes regrouped by the Eighties, and recorded their first full album, <em>One Door Closes</em>, in 1984.  Motown began releasing their old songs in a greatest hits format starting in 1999.  The Velvelettes continue to tour.  This video was recorded in 1989 and features Carolyn, Bertha, and Mildred. </p>
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<title><![CDATA["These Things Will Keep Me Loving You" Performed by The Velvelettes (1966)]]></title>
<link>http://oldschoolmusiclover.com/2009/05/04/these-things-will-keep-me-loving-you-performed-by-the-velvelettes-1966/</link>
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<p>Happy month of May music lovers. May brings the bright and breezy sound of Girl Groups back to the OSML blog. This year all of the Girl Groups presented will be from the Motown family in honor of the year  of Motown50 &#8211; 2009!</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s get started with one of the first Motown girl groups &#8211; The Velvelettes!</p>
<p>This young girl group already had two hits on the Motown/VIP label &#8212; <a title="Needle in a Haystack Performed by The Velvelettes (1964)" href="http://oldschoolmusiclover.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/needle-in-a-haystack-as-performed-by-the-velvelettes-1964/" target="_blank">&#8220;Needle In A Haystack&#8221; in 1964</a> and &#8220;He Was Really Saying Something&#8221; in 1965.</p>
<p>&#8220;These Things Will Keep Me Loving You,&#8221; composed by Johnny Bristol, Harvey Fuqua and Sylvia Moy and released on the Motown/Soul label on October 27, 1966,  would unfortunately be Velvelettes third and final single.  The  low chart performance of the song prompted Motown to  drop any plans for an album of music by the girls.  Looking back &#8212; this seems so unfair since &#8220;The N0-Hit Supremes&#8221; were allowed to hang around Motown hitless for many years before their success came: but don&#8217;t let me get started on THAT!</p>
<p>Back on topic &#8212; The Velvelettes remained in college and eventually disbanded in late 1969 &#8211; the same year that member Cal Gil married then Motown employee and  future Temptation Richard Street.</p>
<p>The story of who the girls are how they came together as a group is most fascinating.  Rather than give you a rehash you may get the story straight from the ladies at their official Web Site <a title="The Velvelettes' Story" href="http://www.velvelettes.com/main.html" target="_blank">here.</a></p>
<p><strong>Trivia:</strong> Does the song have a holiday flavor to it? Listen again. The melody was from a public domain Christmas tune. LOL  But that&#8217;s OK because the instrumentation is pure Motown Funk Brothers! Right? Right On!</p>
<p><strong>More Trivia</strong>. Lead singer Cal Gil was only 14 when she was brought into the group! How&#8217;s that for being young, gifted and black! at one point near the end of the group&#8217;s first tenure, Cal was the only original group member until they disbanded soon after being dropped from Motown. The group did reform in the eighties and a version is still performing <a title="The Official Velvelettes Web Site" href="http://www.velvelettes.com/" target="_blank">today.</a></p>
<p>Musically Yours,</p>
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<title><![CDATA[Velvelettes  - "He Was Really Sayin' Somethin'"]]></title>
<link>http://joelfrancis.com/2008/10/27/velvelettes-he-was-really-sayin-somethin/</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Velvelettes  &#8211; &#8220;He Was Really Sayin&#8217; Somethin&#8217;,&#8221; Pop #64, R&amp;B #21 ]]></description>
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Velvelettes  &#8211; &#8220;He Was Really Sayin&#8217; Somethin&#8217;,&#8221; Pop #64, R&#38;B #21</strong></p>
<p>By Joel Francis</p>
<p>The Velvelettes&#8217; final single for Motown was their most successful effort. Like their previous hit, &#8220;Needle In A Haystack,&#8221; this is another Norman Whitfield production. Unlike the house &#8220;assembly line&#8221; production on Whitfield&#8217;s earlier effort, this song bears more of his fingerprints. Listen to the punch of the brass, especially the deep notes from the trombones. That sound would define songs like &#8220;Get Ready&#8221; and Whitfield&#8217;s early collaborations with the Temptations.</p>
<p> &#8221;He Was Really Sayin&#8217; Something&#8221; is a step up on the writing side as well. Whitfield and Mickey Stevenson are joined by Eddie Holland of the famous Holland-Dozier-Holland team.</p>
<p>It took the Velvelettes two attempts to cut this single. An earlier performance cut in the fall of 1964 was discarded for this take, which was released two days after Christmas. Despite the questionable launch time, this was the group&#8217;s highest-charting single and the band was given an opening slot on an all-Motown tour. Life on the road was not sweet, however. The members disagreed about their musical direction and drifted apart. Lone founding member Carolyn Gill recruited two new members and attempted to press on, but Motown was wary of the group&#8217;s potential. Two follow-up singles failed to chart, while their final effort scraped No. 43 on the R&#38;B charts in 1966. By then the Supremes had established themselves as Motown&#8217;s premier female group and the Velvelettes were cut loose.</p>
<p>In 1982, Bananarama revived the song and had a Top 5 U.K. hit.</p>
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<link>http://caulkischeap.com/2008/07/03/shitty-song-remake-thursday/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[You start with a bad song (by the Velvelettes): and Bananarama makes it better: Okay; it&#8217;s sti]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><p>You start with a bad song (by the Velvelettes):<br />
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and Bananarama makes it better:<br />
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<p>Okay;  it&#8217;s still shitty.    </p>
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<title><![CDATA["Needle in a Haystack" Performed by The Velvelettes (1964)]]></title>
<link>http://oldschoolmusiclover.com/2008/05/30/needle-in-a-haystack-as-performed-by-the-velvelettes-1964/</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I vividly recall seeing the Blossoms perform this great song on Shindig. This is my first recollection of the song, but I knew it sounded like a Motown song. It wasn&#8217;t until many years later that I found out the the song belonged to The Velvelettes. (BTW Darlene Love can sing anything! Can&#8217;t she? That woman should be a superstar!)</p>
<p>The Velvelettes obviously are another of the super talented Motown groups that would probably have had much more attention and success if they had left the label as did The Isley Brothers and Gladys Knight and the Pips.</p>
<p>Unfortunately The Velvelettes only did a few singles for Motown in the Sixties with the most memorable being &#8220;Needle&#8221; and &#8220;He Was Really Saying Something&#8221;. Shamefully, an album was never released on them.</p>
<p>The single &#8220;Needle&#8221; only charted at #45 &#8212; obviously with no promotion. Imagine what these ladies could have done it they had been promoted even just a little.</p>
<p>In 2005 The Velvelettes reunited for this performance.  It is amazing that over forty years later they sound just as great singing the song as they did back in 1964!</p>
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<p>Thanks for stopping by and keep enjoying the music.</p>
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